Makati

[Muttley81]

Caveat-caveat: My time at One Club was just over a month ago. Things change. By chance did you go in next door at O'Reilly's upstairs? If so what were your thoughts?

I've been in O'Reilly's a few times, it's is pretty awful I'm my opinion. I think its biggest problem is it doesn't know what it wants to be so they've done a half assed job between being a normal pub and one that provides girls. They'd have been better focusing on being one type of place. Girls are all on wrong side of 30, and fully clothed, but crowd round your table like it's a gogo hassling for LDs. I doubt I'll go back unless desperate. More places are open now that I enjoy going to, while we're not at pre-pandemic bar levels things are looking up.

[WestCoast1]

Went into One Club last night, I was actually impressed. Layout of place was good, about 20 girls in, played great music, including Nirvana, which I haven't heard in bar in a long time. One of better mamasans from Maison is there too. Understand from speaking to Maison girl that they are switching staff over venues. Will add this to roster of bars to visit. *.

I guess the caveat has complete relevance to demonstrate how people's experiences can differ.

Caveat-caveat: My time at One Club was just over a month ago. Things change. By chance did you go in next door at O'Reilly's upstairs? If so what were your thoughts?

[Muttley81]

One Club (next door and downstairs to O'Reilly's). Did not bother getting data. Walked in on two nights and was fairly repulsed by the talent. At least half were chubs. Emergency egressed. As I have mild standards, it takes a LOT to make me turn and walk out after viewing the talent for just 10 seconds.

Caveat: Just like in AC, things change regularly in each bar. Girls come and go. Mamas change bars (taking their girls with them). You walk into a bar on Wednesday and are surrounded by 8 gals and a mama. You walk into the same bar Friday night and none of the 8 (and the mama) are working. There are about the same number of girls working both nights. Did the bar replace 1/3 of its girls in 48 hours?

Spending 30 minutes to several hours in this or that bar, never saw anyone barfine a girl. In fact, I saw relatively few paying customers, and whales were over-represented. That's muh Burgos info, and I'm sticking to it.

Went into One Club last night, I was actually impressed. Layout of place was good, about 20 girls in, played great music, including Nirvana, which I haven't heard in bar in a long time. One of better mamasans from Maison is there too. Understand from speaking to Maison girl that they are switching staff over venues. Will add this to roster of bars to visit. *.

I guess the caveat has complete relevance to demonstrate how people's experiences can differ.

[MamaGuevos]

Aaah, the good old Philippines degree. While there are several good universities offering real degrees, there are also many paper mills.

I was at a bar-resto in Malapascua once chatting to a girl who proudly said she had just completed her 3 year tourism management degree. She was doing the final work experience phase, unpaid of course, and had just been promoted to folding the napkins.

To be honest that was probably the upper limit of her abilities anyway.

Cheers. G.

My view of an educated woman is one who accepts my offer to come up to my room for a cup of coffee. Once they are in my hotel room, I have never had one walk away.

I do not know of the dangers of wooing an educated salesperson at Gucci, but I would never crassly hand a saleswoman my phone number and whisper her a price. I always talk to them and flirt a little. If they are potentially interested, I politely invite them to get together later. My modus operandi used to be to hand them my contact info written neatly on a piece of paper and to give them my first name. I haven't tried this since before the pandemic, so I guess that now I would ask them to call me right then and there using WhatsApp, thus capturing the contact on my phone. In the past, if they contact me after work (never a certainty), I invited them to a drink either near my hotel or in my room, depending on the vibe. I am always super polite, no matter the level of the woman's education. Even the girls who see you as a walking ATM like to feel that they are getting respect.

When I last tried to pick up a girl at Greenbelt, I got nowhere in the initial stages of my interactions with a handful of women (and then I gave up). I would never have simply handed them my contact information. I was not worried about being assaulted by Uncle Mallari (apparently I should have been! But it would have been pointless.

[Goferring]

From what I understand even selling phone cases in a mall requires a degree in the Philippines. That doesn't mean she won't suck dick on the side though, it just may take a bit more wooing.

Aaah, the good old Philippines degree. While there are several good universities offering real degrees, there are also many paper mills.

I was at a bar-resto in Malapascua once chatting to a girl who proudly said she had just completed her 3 year tourism management degree. She was doing the final work experience phase, unpaid of course, and had just been promoted to folding the napkins.

To be honest that was probably the upper limit of her abilities anyway.

Cheers. G.

[Muttley81]

Seems like we have a few newbies flying in soon from chatter below so done a map update. Highlights:

- Coyote Ribs and BBQ is now a building site.

- Halims is now a building site.

- Lions Pride replaced by newly refurbished Oculto. Not been in it yet, was too loud from outside to consider going in.

- Changed classification of Lips (downstairs) and Neon Nights to bars. Although P4 P is there, they are not strictly gogos.

[Expat American]

Remember that any Tondo waif can get a job selling phone cases in the local mall and would be happy for some overtime sucking dick. \
Enjoy. G.

From what I understand even selling phone cases in a mall requires a degree in the Philippines. That doesn't mean she won't suck dick on the side though, it just may take a bit more wooing.

[Goferring]

Am with Goferring on this. High-end malls like GB are not for hitting on employees directly. Its Louis Vuitton and Dior...

Remember that any Tondo waif can get a job selling phone cases in the local mall and would be happy for some overtime sucking dick. However, the Dior sales girl needs to be comfortable around, and talking with, the monied class. For that reason, she's likely from a respectable family, in the process of getting a good education and certainly able to make a call to an influential uncle who can cause a lot of pain for a horny monger. I don't know what the commission is on a $10,000 purse but it would make a paid suckie fuckie unlikely.

Enjoy. G.

[TjBrazil]

For the guys that live in Philippines full time, do you start to gravitate towards getting a non hooker girlfriend, or is it just not worth the drama and you stick with p4 p most of the time.

[MatteoGilett]

Yes. I thought Matt might be talking about Club Royal, about 3 blocks from Burgos. Those are freelancers (and attractive), but one might not be able to distinguish between the FL and regular girls. Same goes for Club ZZYZX disco in Malate (upscale clientelle). Getting slapped by some young cutie not in the biz (or facing her boyfriend who was across the room) t'ain't pleasant, and hence is not a good thought for Matt's point / shoot needs.

Matt it would be great if you could tell us the layout of the Hi-end bar, or of the type of girls there (are they all pro's)? Or the location? Short of that we are back to escort services, or Burgos bars.

Thank you again WestCoast1, really I appreciate. The place I was probably was named LE Salon? Is possible? Like underground? I have memories of stairs! Could be? Was very close walking distance from Makati Greenbelt, I am sure about it. Again thank you for your help!! In the past I was also visiting EDSA Cotton Club, that I think now is closed, Kremlin, Pharons, and others I forgot the name.

[MatteoGilett]

Matt: You don't yet have PM capability.

Thank you! I did not know but now I realized. .

[KumuMan]

Am with Goferring on this. High-end malls like GB are not for hitting on employees directly. Its Louis Vuitton and Dior.

Kiosk girls in lower-end malls can be quite flirty if you chat them up, but I've never seen that in high-end malls. The better idea is to date the flirty ones (ask her out for a drink, this takes time, and is the opposite of point / shoot). I have had success in the past in that they lose their panties quickly. Its probably a mistake to proposition mall employees directly while in the mall.

I've had 3 from Robinson Mall. Food stall vender, stopped by her stall everyday to buy the mango juice. Sales rep in shoe store, I did buy an expensive pair of slippers from her. Waitress at restaurant I had my Japanese noodles for lunch almost daily. All 3 under 25 and after their shift.

[WestCoast1]

I have tried picking up girls in Greenbelt Mall in Makati, and with the exception of the areas where the pros sat at night (around the Cafe Havana), never had a hint of success. Greenbelt seemed high end to me. I never gave any of the "average malls" a chance, in part because the dating web sites are rich with available talent. A weeks worth of young pretty women can be lined up in a few days using DIA or pinalove so I never put much energy into picking up girls. But I enjoy the hunt and would love to try picking up the young ladies in a mall where the women were not wealthier than I.

Any suggestions of which malls to try when I return this winter?

There is no way it's 80%. In average malls, it might be 25% but in high end malls, it approaches 0%.

I can't emphasis enough be polite, test the water and if she is talkative and easy going, then ask her if she would like to meet at a cafe. DO NOT walk around soliciting random attractive girls with a straight sex for cash offer. To do so is not only incredibly offensive but also extremely likely to get the guy in serious trouble.

Am with Goferring on this. High-end malls like GB are not for hitting on employees directly. Its Louis Vuitton and Dior.

Kiosk girls in lower-end malls can be quite flirty if you chat them up, but I've never seen that in high-end malls. The better idea is to date the flirty ones (ask her out for a drink, this takes time, and is the opposite of point / shoot). I have had success in the past in that they lose their panties quickly. Its probably a mistake to proposition mall employees directly while in the mall.

[Goferring]

I have tried picking up girls in Greenbelt Mall in Makati, and with the exception of the areas where the pros sat at night (around the Cafe Havana), never had a hint of success. Greenbelt seemed high end to me..

You are way braver than me. Many reports here of guys getting into trouble after a Guccibabe goes home and tells dad that an old man was hitting on her and he gave her his number.

Greenbelt is indeed high end as are the surrounding residential areas that house most of the shoppers there.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Just one: Robinson's Malate. There are often half a dozen pro's working the area...

For trying his luck with civilians, MamaG can add MOA (Mall of Asia). It's huge, nonpro girls everywhere, lots of cafes etc to spontaneously invite them to. It's easy travelling distance from middle income areas so a popular shopping and hang out area for these girls. Sales assistants for days for after work coffee offers.

Girls must be comfortable there as it's a very common place for online girls to suggest as a meeting point.

Enjoy. G.