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  1. #6820
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy  [View Original Post]
    Any suggestions for daytime action in Makati? I thought I had done my research and settled on using the "spas" listed on the Manila Tonight website, especially Roadstar and Stargate, but after a depressing experience at Roadstar, I think I may be headed toward using Smooci or take a cab over to Flight 168 during the day. Not sure what time Flight 168 opens, though. Thought this would be easy. Hoping Burgos is successful tonight.
    I think the problem is that you are a foreigner and clearly don't know how the system works, that's why they took advantage of your lack of knowledge and gave you the dregs and overcharged you. Also in the daytime the hot girls have not gone to work yet so you coming early just means you have limited choices IE fugly ones BTW the standard charges are 1500 for FS or at least a B2B massage and a BJ for those that don't offer FS.

  2. #6819

    Daytime ideas?

    Any suggestions for daytime action in Makati? I thought I had done my research and settled on using the "spas" listed on the Manila Tonight website, especially Roadstar and Stargate, but after a depressing experience at Roadstar, I think I may be headed toward using Smooci or take a cab over to Flight 168 during the day. Not sure what time Flight 168 opens, though. Thought this would be easy. Hoping Burgos is successful tonight.

  3. #6818

    Roadstar Spa

    Avoid at all costs. Crawling with roaches. Dirty towels. Shower that doesn't drain with dirty standing water. Paid the 850 peso standard 1 hour massage fee. Told I couldn't see the girls. They assigned a therapist. She had multiple rolls of fat and covered in tattoos. Only know this because the lights were purposely turned as low as possible. I turned the lights up. Wouldn't discuss extras until after the 15 minute intro massage. Then, extras were: HJ 2000, BJ 3000, FS 4500. For those prices, I could have a stunner all night long from Burgos. Avoid this place. Ripoff!

  4. #6817

    Walking from padre Burgos to Mandaluyong bridge report

    I've parked may car near the Motel Sogo and walked all around the alley streets, all the way to Mandaluyong bridge.

    Here are my report.

    Along Makati avenue, the hookers are more likely rated as a 3. 5-6/10 . Not lookers, usually fat and ugly.

    Along padre Burgos, they are more prettier here, but be warned lots of transgender and gay pretending to be girls here. So if your a foreigner,your usually the victim.

    Lots of minors too, and when I say minors, its the bait the corrupt cops use to extort money from you. Usually a squadron of swat and Makati pulis arrive there around 11 pm.

    They wait for you to pick up their "assets" and pick you up once its confirmed that you have gotten the minor, I've seen foreigners get picked up by the police once the tourists enter the taxi with the minor.

    Very embarrassing and expect them to burn a hole in your wallet.

    Around mars street, you'll see 3 spas there that offer massage, I've tried it a couple of times. But the girls charges high. 3 k for sex with blowjob. With condoms. Service not good. [Deleted by Admin].

    If you crossed the intersection of kalayaan street and padre Burgos, the walkers or hookers are fewer here. There's a spa nearby. I think its Osaka spa. Which offers nuru massage. 3 k for BJ and 5 k for sex. Girls are chubby here. Not that good selection.

    Walking all the way to mandaluyong bridge. Its sad to see the few hookers instead of before were they travel in packs.

    There's a bar near 71 gramercy. Royal club. Its a hangout of all the hookers who want foreigners. Its annoying that the bouncers keep on asking for tip.

    The girls are also pushy. Charges 5 k for sex. I said I only pay 3 k.

    Ill pay them 5 k if they allow anal and live sex.

    None of them would. Those who would are usually gay or have sickness.

    This is my January 2020 report.

  5. #6816
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    One of the things that attracts me to KL is the infrastructure and general ease of get to and around of the city. In Phil I always feel I am in a shithole, substandard accom, food is atrocious and getting around a hassle. Also I don't drink and can't spend ages at a bar talking shit while throwing back coke after coke after coke. Also I need shit to do during the day. I get easily bored. Body clock says wake up every morn at 8 by the latest.

    You said you have 3 wks in Jakarta. Lets say you spend from 7 pm to 2 am mongering every night what will you do the rest of the time? And Jakarta is such a crap city to get around. How do you fill in the time esp for 3 wks? (with respect).
    This is a good question not only for Jakarta, but also for MNL, BKK, KL, Singapore, Pat, AC, Phnom ect ect.

    BKK is at the top of my list in part because there is plenty to do in addition to fooling around with the girls which is almost 24/7. Pat is less interesting because all there is essentially is girls, girls, and more girls but the good part is that they are available almost 24/7 so I don't get bored and there is basically always something to do.

    In cities like Jakarta, MNL, KL, and Macau, however, this is not the case so a punter has to be creative with all the free time. I try to sleep late. That helps me stay in sync with the city. Then I always stay in hotels with good swimming pools. After a couple of hours by the pool (in and out of the shade) I will usually catch up on the internet and my correspondences. By then its afternoon lunch time. Lunch is my main meal of the day. After lunch I like to walk it off by taking in the sights. Then I will head back to my hotel where I rest, watch a little tV, and eventually cleanup for the evening's activities.

    A great thing about Jakarta is that the nights can have 2 different stages. Early evening stage beginning around 8:30 to 9:30 pm is bordello time. I have my favorite bordellos which I rotate around every 4 or 5 nights. After a bordello session I will usually have a little light dinner. Then it is time for the later evening stage and time to see about picking up a FL Bar girl after midnight to take back to my hotel room. This can also be easily done in Singapore too with a Geylang in-house girl in the afternoon and a FL pickup girl after 11 pm.

    MNL is a little different. When I am not looking for new girls, I enjoy a lot of threesomes, drinking, and dinners with my 2 favorite repeat girls that I have known since 2015. They are great girls and best friends, so my time with them is always fun and worthwhile. The girls and I usually get together at my hotel at around 7 pm and the girls stay until 1 or 2 am. Sometimes I invite them over for afternoon lunch and pool parties. Those are nice because after the girls leave, I can clean up my room a little and go out hunting again. The girls and I consume a fair amount of Tequila. The drinks contribute to making it a convivial party situation and not just a shagathon. LOL.

    So that's about it. In summary, you have to be creative with your free time or else you will be bored. Hey read a book, learn a language, shop the malls, take in the museums and local culture, get into photography, walk around, AND always, always keep your eyes open for any opportunities that may come your way. I enjoy my time in Jakarta and MNL, but I admit I would probably go nuts if I had to live in either city. I could see myself living in BKK, on the other hand, but after a few years I would probably get tired of BKK too. The great thing about SE Asia is that it is so easy and relatively inexpensive to fly to another nearby destination anytime you have the urge to get away. I am not planning to give up my American citizenship, but I do see myself settling down in SE Asia, BKK most likely, in the near future. I have been all over the world and there is nowhere else besides SE Asia where I would choose to live. But that's just me. YMMV.

  6. #6815
    Quote Originally Posted by MohdirFan82  [View Original Post]
    If you were in KL from 2002 till around 2008, KL was dream destination for mongering. Actually I used to pick up local girls in Beach club. Whole club was filled with excellent quality of Local FLs, Pinoys, Indons, and some but not much Vietnamese or Chinese. I visited KL again in 2016 it was sad situation, beach club was unrecognizable, and filled with Vietnamese, African, and some ex-sovient Live stock quality girls. I had to leave.

    Went back to KL to meet my ex, and Beach club even looked more sad will never go their again. Bye Bye KL. It was great Memories.
    Well said and prices are rising also. I remember those days and was great. I walked into Beach Club with a bisexual pinay and found a lovely partner and had a great threesome all night.

    Now is a sad looking bunch. Either that or I am picky and fussy.

    But I do agree the infrastructure is good.

  7. #6814
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    One of the things that attracts me to KL is the infrastructure and general ease of get to and around of the city. In Phil I always feel I am in a shithole, substandard accom, food is atrocious and getting around a hassle. Also I don't drink and can't spend ages at a bar talking shit while throwing back coke after coke after coke. Also I need shit to do during the day. I get easily bored. Body clock says wake up every morn at 8 by the latest.
    I too find it surprising that you go all the way to KL to pick up at Beach Club. You keep mentioning that you like the infrastructure in KL, but you come from Rich White Man Land (RWML), where they already have superb infrastructure. On the Gold Coast where you live, you even have that light rail thing running down the middle to keep all the left wing progressives happy.

    You can get pretty girls in brothels in Sydney and Melbourne for $220 - 250 an hour, so it might be better for you to enjoy the delights in your own country. With time and some effort, you could find some nice Asian and South American FLs in apartments on the Gold Coast. The sessions will get better once you build some rapport with these FLs. I have four hookers on my roster in RWML and previously only went to the Phils because it was all rather amusing. I've now retired from the Phils and will hopefully be tapping black ass in Mombassa soon. Hahahahaha.

    We've all mentioned this before, but the accommodation does not have to be substandard in the Phils. It depends on how much you can pay. But since you blew most of your budget on the Shitsville Airlines, before you even left, of course your accommodation was going to be shit! In the early 1970's, the Buffalo Bills spent all their money on one O. J. Simpson, their superstar running back. To keep under the salary cap, the Bills had very little money to buy any more good players, hence the entire team was woeful and they did not ever win much for the entire decade. So the moral of the story is, don't spend all your money on one big item.

  8. #6813
    If you were in KL from 2002 till around 2008, KL was dream destination for mongering. Actually I used to pick up local girls in Beach club. Whole club was filled with excellent quality of Local FLs, Pinoys, Indons, and some but not much Vietnamese or Chinese. I visited KL again in 2016 it was sad situation, beach club was unrecognizable, and filled with Vietnamese, African, and some ex-sovient Live stock quality girls. I had to leave.

    Went back to KL to meet my ex, and Beach club even looked more sad will never go their again. Bye Bye KL. It was great Memories.

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    1. BKK. Still the best although not cheap anymore. A ST Go Go girl will cost anywhere from 3300 baht to 4000 baht ie $110 to $133 and that does not include any lady drinks making BKK more expensive than Burgos.

    2. Jakarta. Hot girls! I really am attracted to these girls. Prettier than Pinays IMHO. The city sucks, but nightlife is great and although there are no Go Go's to speak of anymore. CGK is a bordello town. A ST bordello session will cost anywhere from $20 to $144 depending on the Bordello (Classic to Malio Club).

    3. MNL. Great girls and take note: the young sexy ones are priced similar to BKK & CGK. Example: a Kojax or Plan be hot little Go Go girl is (2900 for BF + 3000) ie 5900 p ($116) all in including 2 lady drinks fo ST.

    Personally I find Jakarta girls more exotic than MNL girls. That's probably because I don't speak Bahasa. Same same with Thai girls. I don't speak Thai although I wish I did.

    4. Pattaya. The pearl of the orient. Ha Ha. More informal than BKK and in some Pat Go Go's more expensive. But I like Pat because it has some great Go Go's like Palace, Sensations, and Pin Up and I will say this: the top girls in Palace or Sensations are not any better looking than the top talent in Kojax or Plan be. And that is the fucking truth! So I like all 4 destinations. My preference listing is more based on other things like cuisine and interesting things to do when I am not shagging girls.

    The next 2 destinations are not primary destinations. So like KL you don't get to shag the local girls and therefore must make do with import girls. But unlike KL, you have the opportunity in these 2 cities to do some very hot imports.

    5. Macau. YES, it is really expensive and I mean really expensive! But Macau has TOP quality Chinese girls & great porn quality service if that is what you are looking for. Example: a Rio Sauna Emperor Chinese or Korean Model (super hot. IMHO) is 3000 mop or $374! You want to do a real 8? Fly to Macau.

    6 Singapore. It used to be a lot better before the authorities clamped down the 100's and 100's of Chinese, Indonesian, Thai, & Viet SW's operating freely on the lorangs of Geylang all night long, but good times can still be had in the Gelang legal houses or in the OT bars. I like the Gelang Chinese 150 houses myself. They have pretty Chinese girls, although not Macau super model quality, but good service nonetheless. The price is 150 sd or $111..

  9. #6812

    Horses for courses

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    1. BKK. Still the best although not cheap anymore. A ST Go Go girl will cost anywhere from 3300 baht to 4000 baht ie $110 to $133 and that does not include any lady drinks making BKK more expensive than Burgos.
    2. Jakarta. Hot girls! I really am attracted to these girls. Prettier than Pinays IMHO. The city sucks, but nightlife is great and although there are no Go Go's to speak of anymore. CGK is a bordello town. A ST bordello session will cost anywhere from $20 to $144 depending on the Bordello (Classic to Malio Club).
    I should also mention that I like Phnom Penh and Yangon. I would probably rate Phnom ahead of Singapore because Khmer girls are very unique and some of them are very pretty. Burmese girls are very nice as well. One of my current repeat favorites is a Yangon girl. I met her in a Yangon FL pick up bar 2 years ago. So when I was in the planing stage of my next upcoming trip, I asked her if she wanted go on a weekend beach holiday with me. She said she would, but added that she would really like to see BKK since she has heard so much about it and never been there. HA HA. Fine with me. Actually BKK is better than a beach because there is a lot more to do, so the plan is after I spend a few weeks in BKK, I will fly to Yangon (visa run) and spend a few days with her over there and then fly us both back to BKK a long weekend. She is so excited and I am looking forward to it too. Then long after I say good bye to her I will fly down to Jakarta for the last 3 weeks of my trip. BKK / Yangon / Pattaya / Jakarta: that is my itinerary for spring 2020. MNL will have to wait until the trip after the next one. I just spent 2 weeks in MNL 6 months ago and had a great time.
    One of the things that attracts me to KL is the infrastructure and general ease of get to and around of the city. In Phil I always feel I am in a shithole, substandard accom, food is atrocious and getting around a hassle. Also I don't drink and can't spend ages at a bar talking shit while throwing back coke after coke after coke. Also I need shit to do during the day. I get easily bored. Body clock says wake up every morn at 8 by the latest.

    You said you have 3 wks in Jakarta. Lets say you spend from 7 pm to 2 am mongering every night what will you do the rest of the time? And Jakarta is such a crap city to get around. How do you fill in the time esp for 3 wks? (with respect).

  10. #6811

    A Quick Comparison of my Favorite SE Asian Mongering Cities

    1. BKK. Still the best although not cheap anymore. A ST Go Go girl will cost anywhere from 3300 baht to 4000 baht ie $110 to $133 and that does not include any lady drinks making BKK more expensive than Burgos.

    2. Jakarta. Hot girls! I really am attracted to these girls. Prettier than Pinays IMHO. The city sucks, but nightlife is great and although there are no Go Go's to speak of anymore. CGK is a bordello town. A ST bordello session will cost anywhere from $20 to $144 depending on the Bordello (Classic to Malio Club).

    3. MNL. Great girls and take note: the young sexy ones are priced similar to BKK & CGK. Example: a Kojax or Plan be hot little Go Go girl is (2900 for BF + 3000) ie 5900 p ($116) all in including 2 lady drinks fo ST.

    Personally I find Jakarta girls more exotic than MNL girls. That's probably because I don't speak Bahasa. Same same with Thai girls. I don't speak Thai although I wish I did.

    4. Pattaya. The pearl of the orient. Ha Ha. More informal than BKK and in some Pat Go Go's more expensive. But I like Pat because it has some great Go Go's like Palace, Sensations, and Pin Up and I will say this: the top girls in Palace or Sensations are not any better looking than the top talent in Kojax or Plan be. And that is the fucking truth! So I like all 4 destinations. My preference listing is more based on other things like cuisine and interesting things to do when I am not shagging girls.

    The next 2 destinations are not primary destinations. So like KL you don't get to shag the local girls and therefore must make do with import girls. But unlike KL, you have the opportunity in these 2 cities to do some very hot imports.

    5. Macau. YES, it is really expensive and I mean really expensive! But Macau has TOP quality Chinese girls & great porn quality service if that is what you are looking for. Example: a Rio Sauna Emperor Chinese or Korean Model (super hot. IMHO) is 3000 mop or $374! You want to do a real 8? Fly to Macau.

    6 Singapore. It used to be a lot better before the authorities clamped down the 100's and 100's of Chinese, Indonesian, Thai, & Viet SW's operating freely on the lorangs of Geylang all night long, but good times can still be had in the Gelang legal houses or in the OT bars. I like the Gelang Chinese 150 houses myself. They have pretty Chinese girls, although not Macau super model quality, but good service nonetheless. The price is 150 sd or $111.

    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Agree. If I had to go somewhere it would be KL as I would get decent hotel, food, infrastructure & pussy. Walk 5 minutes to BC pick up 5 min walk back if I pay a bit more get GFE from what I think is quality ladies. (although number of MILF was rising significantly last trip).
    So KL is you idea of a great girly destination? Amazing! I don't even consider KL a primary mongering destination. It certainly does not make my top 10 list because like in Hong Kong most of the girls available are imports and not of very high quality. For example, in the famous Beach Club in KL, your go to place, LOL, the quality of it's Viet and Thai girls pales in comparison to the sexy, young Pinays you can find in the top 3 Burgos Go Go's. The nicest thing I can say about BC FL's is they are a lot better looking and less expensive too than Wanchai FL bar girls in Hong Kong. Currently HKG is the worst mongering city in SE Asia! And that was before the current problems began.

    Prices: In KL a Beach Club FL is 400 MYR for ST minimum (probably more if the girl is above a 5) and that is not including any lady drinks. MINIMUM! VS. In Manila a Kojax or Plan be a hot little Go Go girl is (2900 for BF + 3000) ie 5900 p all in including 2 lady drinks fo ST. So the comparison is $97 for older import KL pussy vs $116 for a young Pinay in MNL + 2 lady drinks thrown in. It's a no brainer for me. I will take the cute little Pinay every time, but I get it. Tastes vary and some guys will prefer a 26 - 30 year old average looking Viet girl that has been on the circuit x number of years over a sexy 21 year old Pinay. I have done both and IMHO there is no comparison. That's why I have only been to KL twice. (My first and last time.) and I keep coming back to MNL.

    Interestingly, the only Malaysian girl I ever shagged was in Macau, not in KL. I found her at Excellent Sauna. She was a very nice girl and we had a great session. I wouldn't mind doing more Malaysian girls, but sadly I know I ain't going to find them in KL.

    I should also mention that I like Phnom Penh and Yangon. I would probably rate Phnom ahead of Singapore because Khmer girls are very unique and some of them are very pretty. Burmese girls are very nice as well. One of my current repeat favorites is a Yangon girl. I met her in a Yangon FL pick up bar 2 years ago. So when I was in the planing stage of my next upcoming trip, I asked her if she wanted go on a weekend beach holiday with me. She said she would, but added that she would really like to see BKK since she has heard so much about it and never been there. HA HA. Fine with me. Actually BKK is better than a beach because there is a lot more to do, so the plan is after I spend a few weeks in BKK, I will fly to Yangon (visa run) and spend a few days with her over there and then fly us both back to BKK a long weekend. She is so excited and I am looking forward to it too. Then long after I say good bye to her I will fly down to Jakarta for the last 3 weeks of my trip. BKK / Yangon / Pattaya / Jakarta: that is my itinerary for spring 2020. MNL will have to wait until the trip after the next one. I just spent 2 weeks in MNL 6 months ago and had a great time.

  11. #6810

    Yeah conceded defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by CodeName47  [View Original Post]
    I am sorry for you NI. Why not stick to home? Spending that huge amount on airfare and hotels to get disappointed is not an option I would choose.
    Now Philippines, Indonesia is majorly for rich, attractive and young Koreans and Japanese. How about Malaysia which is working for you? That 40 + Vietnamese Beach Club cafe girls?
    Agree. If I had to go somewhere it would be KL as I would get decent hotel, food, infrastructure & pussy. Walk 5 minutes to BC pick up 5 min walk back if I pay a bit more get GFE from what I think is quality ladies. (although number of MILF was rising significantly last trip).

    Vietnam is a good option too but as usually travel there with partner gets a bit tricky.

    On the bright side if I delete OS trips then spending 300/400 per wk in my hometown is doable and surely for that money I will get satisfaction. My MO will be shop around find something I like. Say this is exactly what I want and this is how much you will get (max of 400 a session) and go from there. I'm on the Gold Coast so looking at trips to Sydney and Perth too just to get away.

    NI.

  12. #6809
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately travelling around SEA spending money on flights, accommodation, food, etc and battling the 3rd world infrastructure and hassles of travelling is to me not worth it to bang very average pussy. You might disagree, you might think I my MO is wrong, you might have your own views. That's your prerogative.

    NI..
    I am sorry for you NI. Why not stick to home? Spending that huge amount on airfare and hotels to get disappointed is not an option I would choose.

    Now Philippines, Indonesia is majorly for rich, attractive and young Koreans and Japanese. How about Malaysia which is working for you? That 40 + Vietnamese Beach Club cafe girls?

  13. #6808
    Quote Originally Posted by XMan  [View Original Post]
    Could someone please give me a hotel recommendation for the Makati / Taguig area. I'd prefer something under P4000. I haven't stayed in this area for many years. X Man.
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    Check out Airbnb, you can get SM Jazz one bedrooms for less than that.
    I spent a week in Taguig earlier this year at Jazz, studio unit, 2 blocks off the C5 hwy. Harsh traffic in the area almost all hours of the day (Jazz. Market2 x was 90 minutes in traffic, coming and going). However the studio was p1300/ day with the weekly discount. Also Makati, Knightsbridge can be had for the same price range. Hotels in the area, Durban St, Oxford, Berjaya, well under 4 k.

  14. #6807
    Quote Originally Posted by XMan  [View Original Post]
    Could someone please give me a hotel recommendation for the Makati / Taguig area. I'd prefer something under P4000. I haven't stayed in this area for many years. X Man.
    Check out Airbnb, you can get SM Jazz one bedrooms for less than that.

  15. #6806

    Hotel recommendation

    Could someone please give me a hotel recommendation for the Makati / Taguig area. I'd prefer something under P4000. I haven't stayed in this area for many years. X Man.

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