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  1. #6955
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I think you have hit the nail on the head there. Word soon spreads amongst a girl's friends what guys will send money for. See all the newbie 18 yos online now and the supermodel hot girls that now answer all messages (knowing that none of the guys are actually going to visit).

    G.
    Every time I chatted with 18-21 year old girls, they readily agree for everything you propose knowing fully well chatting is non physical. None of them have any I. The. Moment you take the chat to cam to cam there comes the sob story. Quite a few of them ready to show their bodies for money.

    I am sure many our friends here as well as many lonely newbies are definitely sending money to young nubile girls. Whether they visit or not it is hard to know.

    As seasoned travelers we know maybe one in 10 we hope to dip in will come through. However word definitely has spread that foreigners want young girls. So you see more and more 18 and 19 year old girls in DIA which I use.

    COVID and no job, quarantine, no food has replaced buffalo needs oxygen, grandfather needs funeral, kicked out of house etc reasons for help.

    No reason to send money to girls who you never met. They have lived before without your help and in their own way will continue to live without your help.

  2. #6954

    Disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by ChochaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Are there mongers so desperate for a root that they are sending unseen LBFMs cash for a WhatsApp chat? Most of the 'hotties' demanding cash then and there are actually lady-boys and hardcore scammers. There was never a good root to be had in any case. The prospect of a good root only exists in the mind of the monger wasting his time on dating apps while incarcerated thousands of miles away from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Hahaha!
    CM,

    Your logic fails. Porno is huge, as is LiveJasmin and such stuff. Live camming can pay well. And cammers I have bonked told me so. There is a points system, where they know who gives and who does not give and do tyhey know who is worth the effort. I have never paid a cammer but I have spoken to them on eg skype as they cammed and I have bonked them (and paid, as I am a gentleman).

    There are plenty of Americans in fly over states happt to jerk off to some far away camer and pay for the privilege. Where do you think the tissue scarcity of a few months back came from?

    If guys here are looking for a cheap bonk, why can LBFMs not look for an easy mark?

  3. #6953
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    , or same script anyway. LOL.
    I think you have hit the nail on the head there. Word soon spreads amongst a girl's friends what guys will send money for. See all the newbie 18 yos online now and the supermodel hot girls that now answer all messages (knowing that none of the guys are actually going to visit).

    G.

  4. #6952
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It must work sometimes or the 'girls' wouldn't do it. I agree with KG in that it's a numbers game. If a hot profile pic gets 1000 messages a day, do the math if only 1% fall for some type of sob story.

    I have noticed that some are sticking to traditional MOs while others are thinking a bit more laterally:

    I'd love to chat and cam with you but I have no load / pawned my phone. Send money and all your dreams will come true.

    I'd love to meet but I'm in Pagadian / Zamboanga City / some other place that foreigners never go. Just send me the money for a ticket and we can meet for a week in Cebu.

    On video chat: Sorry I just woke up. That's why my voice is husky, you can't see my body covered by the bed covers and my makeup / hair is dishevelled.

    Enjoy. G.
    Sounds like we have been chatting to some of the same girls, or same script anyway. LOL.

  5. #6951
    Quote Originally Posted by ChochaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Are there mongers so desperate for a root that they are sending unseen LBFMs cash for a WhatsApp chat? Most of the 'hotties' demanding cash then and there are actually lady-boys and hardcore scammers. There was never a good root to be had in any case. .....
    It must work sometimes or the 'girls' wouldn't do it. I agree with KG in that it's a numbers game. If a hot profile pic gets 1000 messages a day, do the math if only 1% fall for some type of sob story.

    I have noticed that some are sticking to traditional MOs while others are thinking a bit more laterally:

    I'd love to chat and cam with you but I have no load / pawned my phone. Send money and all your dreams will come true.

    I'd love to meet but I'm in Pagadian / Zamboanga City / some other place that foreigners never go. Just send me the money for a ticket and we can meet for a week in Cebu.

    On video chat: Sorry I just woke up. That's why my voice is husky, you can't see my body covered by the bed covers and my makeup / hair is dishevelled.

    Enjoy. G.

  6. #6950
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I could take cheap shots about your pricing but this is clearly exceptional circumstances and at the end of the day it's your money to spend as you see fit. 😁.

    I'd agree with your comment about the hotties. Most are clearly not hurting for cash and are accepting offers on an as needs basis. I've had many cease all conversation unless I'm prepared to send cash there and then, sight unseen for nothing more than a WhatsApp chat. Clearly there must be guys falling for it or they wouldn't be trying there luck.

    Cheers. G.
    Are there mongers so desperate for a root that they are sending unseen LBFMs cash for a WhatsApp chat? Most of the 'hotties' demanding cash then and there are actually lady-boys and hardcore scammers. There was never a good root to be had in any case. The prospect of a good root only exists in the mind of the monger wasting his time on dating apps while incarcerated thousands of miles away from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Hahaha!

  7. #6949
    Quote Originally Posted by MSanchez  [View Original Post]
    I'm not a huge BJ guy in the first place because it rarely gets me off plus what's better than FS so I'm like fuck it I'll do 10 K all in for FS. She agrees and I hate fuck her for a good half hour in all the standard positions making sure to get my moneys worth. Yes I'm ashamed to say I overpaid but she was hot enough and I really wanted to get a solid release that night.
    Thanks for the insightful update. We all have out moments and if the girl has done a good job of oiling you up etc. When you are sitting back in your home country, looking at travel restrictions, lockdowns and the possibility of returning and looking back at the P10 k you will be glad you spent that money. Compare that P10 k to what you can get in your home county for the next year or two.

  8. #6948
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]

    ....

    I've had many cease all conversation unless I'm prepared to send cash there and then, sight unseen for nothing more than a WhatsApp chat. Clearly there must be guys falling for it or they wouldn't be trying there luck.

    Cheers. G.
    They can make good money on a volume basis. If they only get about one in a hundred guys to send them 1000 p, then they chat 1000 guys a week and make pretty good coin. Remember that 15,000 p is generally a good income for a shop girl so getting 1000 p from 15 guys a month will not be that difficult.

    For western guys who do not know how it is here, getting 5,000 p will not be unusual, then they only need 3 guys a month. Once they get a guy hooked, they can milk that one contact for several months.

    Not bad money for the occasional flash of pussy or tits on cam.

  9. #6947
    Quote Originally Posted by MSanchez  [View Original Post]
    5. Some girls are more desperate for cash and some girls are doing just fine. The bargain girls will take anywhere from 2 k to 7 k for ST and anywhere from 5 k to 15 k for LT. If you notice that's a pretty wide range but it also depends on the quality of girl too. Trust me the hot ones know they're hot and they're usually not the ones in dire need of business or money.
    I could take cheap shots about your pricing but this is clearly exceptional circumstances and at the end of the day it's your money to spend as you see fit. 😁.

    I'd agree with your comment about the hotties. Most are clearly not hurting for cash and are accepting offers on an as needs basis. I've had many cease all conversation unless I'm prepared to send cash there and then, sight unseen for nothing more than a WhatsApp chat. Clearly there must be guys falling for it or they wouldn't be trying there luck.

    Cheers. G.

  10. #6946

    Manila / Makati Update and FR

    Hello everyone,

    Long time listener, first time caller. I was fortunate enough to find myself in back Manila for the past week. I've been in country since the start of 2020 and decided to ride out the coronavirus in one of the smaller provinces. Anyways just wanted to give back and provide some info on what Manila GCQ life was like while I was there. So just some quick relevant notes and short field report. Again keep in mind this was just my experience during my time there the 2nd to last week of June.

    1. Still a 10 PM curfew in effect. Most restaurants close at 8 PM with sometimes last call for food orders even earlier at 7 PM. Most fast food places will close a little later closer to 10 PM. Dine in was allowed at some restaurants while I was there but many restaurants were still closed completely or only offered take out / delivery orders. Malls were open but very deserted.

    2. Face masks are required at all times outside of your residence or you can be ticketed for it and most likely publicly shamed. Everyone and I mean everyone is wearing one at all times. And you will not be allowed in any type of store or restaurant without one. I didn't see a single person without a mask my entire time in Manila.

    3. I used grab to get anywhere I needed or to give a ride for girls. I also used grab for food deliveries as well as the food panda app.

    4. I opted to stay in an airbnb because I prefer not to stay in hotels for more than a few days, just a personal preference when I travel. That said, finding an airbnb was not exactly easy or even that cheap. I tried to book 2 different airbnbs at first and I was declined both times because the building wasn't allowing guests or something like that? I finally got lucky on a 1/1 because the airbnb owner told the building admin I was his cousin or something. I also had to provide a medical certificate from my province's local health unit saying I was covid free (which was just bureaucratic BS because all they did was take my temperature and blood pressure for it). I also had to send him a picture of my travel pass but I already needed all this documentation to fly from my location in the outer province to Manila so it wasn't a big deal. My airbnb was about $65 USD a night and located about a 3 minute walk from Greenbelt.

    5. I walked by Poblacion and it was a ghost town. Granted it was around noon but still it just felt dead and empty. Some girls were saying bars might open back up in Aug or Sept but most people think the earliest bars will reopen is 2021. Regular bars were all closed as well as far as I could tell.

    6. I've already left the country and am typing this out on the plane actually. Leaving the country was a breeze. It took me about 30 minutes to get to terminal 1 from the greenbelt area at 9 AM. Then it took about 1 hour from outside terminal 1 to reach my gate. No special documents were required for me to leave the country. I actually already went to the immigration office makati branch during the week to take care of my overstayed visa so I didn't have to worry about it at the airport. No fines for overstaying due to coronavirus. And it was pretty quick painless at the immigration office but make sure to get there in the morning to be safe, I saw a sign when I was leaving that said the immigration office was closing early at 1 PM because of "excessive demand" that day or whatever the hell that means.

    That's about it off the top of my head. If you guys have any specific questions feel free to let me know and I'll try my best to answer them. Honestly I had fun while I was in Manila but its a shell of what it used to be. Yeah its nice that there's less traffic and pollution and people but the vibe is just like a ghost town really. Everyone is paranoid and on edge because of the virus. Bars are all closed, both girlie and non girlie. Nobody's really partying or in that mood, even dine in is weird because of the forced social distancing and annoying forms and temp checks and facemaks etc. There's really just not much to do in Manila right now besides eat and hopefully meet up with a girl either at your place or take them to a restaurant or for a stroll outside. And its hot as balls in Manila right now. Muggy and sweltering hot. And the 10 PM curfew is really annoying too, food delivery stops at 10 PM on the dot, malls and most stores will close by 8 PM anyways, scheduling girls revolve around the curfew as well. Hopefully things return to normal sooner than later but I'm not holding my breath.

    As for the monger scene I'm sorry to say I'm not a huge help there. I hate reading FR of guys who already have a bunch of contacts and just give details about girls who are impossible to meet. Like good for you but what's the fucking point. But I will say this:

    1. M Courteseans is open for business if that's something you're into.

    2. My opinion is that paying for premium smooci is a waste of money. I shelled out the $15 usd for a week of premium and 90% of the reviews are fake I feel. Yeah every once in a while there will be some honest feedback but its far and few in between. Plus there's really only about maybe 7 or 8 independent girls on there and the rest are all from agencies. Anyways nothing you can't see by using free smooci. I didn't end up having time to book a girl on there but a few caught my eye.

    3. So I did get to try an online agency girl. One night I just wanted something fast and easy so I used whatsapp to message the tantricmassage. Ph handler. They have like 2 or 3 different websites with all the same girls. Anyways I had a good experience using them. The handler was very responsive and professional, and the girl I picked matched the photos. She was cute, firm, no kids, nice perky and firm big be's / small see's, nice ass to go with it, and short like most filipinas. So I think the total cost was 3200 pesos which included transpo. This was for the 1.5 hour tantric massage package that includes a topless massage with happy ending. The massage was decent enough, she even put this big leather sheet on the bed and oiled herself up and did a great body to body massage rubbing her firm round tits across every inch of my body. She definitely knew what she was doing and seemed to enjoy doing that more than the basic massage. I was actually impressed. Afterwards she kept trying to crazy highball me asking for an extra 10 k php for full service. I was like hell no are you fucking crazy? I can get an overnight with a topshelf girl unlimited pops for that. So I was like fuck it just give me the hand job and then she got all pissy saying that's extra too and I'm like fuck no your boss said it was included in the original fee. So now I'm really ticked and get my phone and start messaging the handler and she's messaging them too at the same time. Finally we somehow agree on 5 k total for a BBBJ finish meaning including the original 3200 php for the massage. Well her skills were decent, she was enthusiastic and tried her best to DT but it was kinda toothy. I'm not a huge BJ guy in the first place because it rarely gets me off plus what's better than FS so I'm like fuck it I'll do 10 K all in for FS. She agrees and I hate fuck her for a good half hour in all the standard positions making sure to get my moneys worth. Yes I'm ashamed to say I overpaid but she was hot enough and I really wanted to get a solid release that night. My point is this website is legit but not cheap, which I assume most agencies are like.

    4. I set up a Tinder and Tan Tan account but didn't get any meaningful hits on there. Way too much work IMHO. But some guys seem to find success with it. I was planning to try PL and FC but didn't have time to get around to it either.

    5. Some girls are more desperate for cash and some girls are doing just fine. The bargain girls will take anywhere from 2 k to 7 k for ST and anywhere from 5 k to 15 k for LT. If you notice that's a pretty wide range but it also depends on the quality of girl too. Trust me the hot ones know they're hot and they're usually not the ones in dire need of business or money. But I did meet two separate girls who said they genuinely have not met with anyone or even left the house for the past 3 months. Weird times we're living in.

  11. #6945

    Thanks for the positive news

    Thanks JC,

    Glad for you.

    Hope the part 2 comes in soon.

    Vic.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnaCarson  [View Original Post]
    I was at S & R The other day was loading my groceries into my car in this very attractive younger girl was I. The car next to mine waifor her auntie.

    She open her car door and smiled after me said Hello, and asked if I needed help.

    We chatted a bit and one thing led to another and she gave me her number.

    We talked on Skype this morning and she sent me this photo.

    She is very exciting open minded and agreed to come to my condo this weekend.

    To be continued.

  12. #6944
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Used to love seeking as PH probably was ground zero for the highest concentration of young, educated girls willing to drop their panties for cash, some of them even for free, and the icing on the cake is you could actually converse with these girls and get along with them on a wide range of topics even with their youthful naivety.
    This is why I love Philippines. 99 percent of the time chatted girls are ready for sex moment they come to your room. They are really horny even if they are doing it for money. I get nice GFE experiences. Even if they come across as scared treat them nicely and they are good friends. It is only some girls who have been doing this a long time being with foreigners are scammers. Yes, I had some money stolen before by couple of girls who I was friends with. But those are few pesos only. Generally I do not count my pesos left in my pocket. After that I am careful always locking up money and valuables if I am not alone. I meet only dating site girls and great times with them. If they show attitude I let them go after one night and others I tend to keep for few nights. I reward them well and would never think of not giving money. Do not want any freebies.

  13. #6943
    Used to love seeking as PH probably was ground zero for the highest concentration of young, educated girls willing to drop their panties for cash, some of them even for free, and the icing on the cake is you could actually converse with these girls and get along with them on a wide range of topics even with their youthful naivety.

    The recent influx of delusional girls (mostly due to covid) seem to think they're on tinder, and regularly post bullshit like "platonic only" or "treat me like the queen I am" or "I'm just looking to try this because I heard some dumbass on Instagram claim they get free money for nothing".

    Even seeking now has a blog on online dates, which is poor form from them I must admit as it just encourages scammers and delusional girls tk think they can get money for little to no effort.

    I've suspended my paid membership till after lockdown ends as I can't deal with the sheer amount of shit new profiles out there.

  14. #6942
    Quote Originally Posted by ErrolFlynn  [View Original Post]
    It used to be (in the US anyway) that SA was a unique site where 90% (okay, maybe 80%) of the girls were really looking for a Sugar Daddy relationship: not straight up hooking but playing part time girlfriend for a medium short period of time in exchange for money. It was only the occasional oddball who thought that men should pay her for the privilege of a platonic or on-line relationship. Bullshit. But I guess too many pussy-whipped men did pay for this and now it seems like the hot girls all want it. In some countries it seems to be morphing into a high end replacement for CraigsList escort listings and that's okay, but it's expensive for an escort listing service.
    I gave up on SA. Even before COVID, I agree, the better looking girls were looking for platonic only (LOL). Why should I pay to deal with their problems, drama and BS? Why should I pay to be a mentor? Why should I pay for naked pics of a stranger, when they are available for free on the internet? The girls' sense of self-worth is way over-rated.

    Now, with social distancing in effect, that percentage of girls who want a virtual relationship has almost reached 100. I imagine SA has seen a huge revenue drop as guys realize they will no longer actually find a real SB during this time. I'm glad I paid month-to-month.

  15. #6941
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnaCarson  [View Original Post]
    I was at S & R The other day was loading my groceries into my car in this very attractive younger girl was I. The car next to mine waifor her auntie.

    She open her car door and smiled after me said Hello, and asked if I needed help.

    We chatted a bit and one thing led to another and she gave me her number.

    We talked on Skype this morning and she sent me this photo.

    She is very exciting open minded and agreed to come to my condo this weekend.

    To be continued.
    You prolly look like a twenty something Johnny Carson.

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