Makati

[Threadbare]

I had an overnight stay in Makati as my flight home was early from Manila. I took the Genesis bus non stop from SM Clark (outside the main entrance) to Manila airport and taxi from there to hotel. I booked Oxford Suites as someone suggested on here. Perfect location right at the centre of P Burgos action, but has probably seen better days. Neither aircon or TV remote controls worked properly, oddly neither of them would turn off the equipment though other functions worked. It all started to kick off about 8 pm with some street girls and clubs opening. I took a look in a few clubs, Dimples was great, I had a beer and a lot of attention in Lollipop upstairs too. Check out the BF prices and was a bit surprised to hear 3900 php BF, and that doesn't include the girl payment, which was going to be upwards of 4 - 5 k, so bit pricey for me. Back outside there were probably 20 or more girls, as well as some non girls, like AC they will offer to find you a real girl for a small tip. Anyway I ended up asking one girl about prices and she started at 2 k and soon dropped to 1500, so I took her for that. She was small, slim and 26, nice friendly type. She started with a massage which soon turned to nuru with oil and was very pleasant. She moved on to BJ which was her main offering, but having felt how tight her pussy was I had to try that too, really nice. I did use condom for that though. Finished like that, so she had a shower and left, still friendly and no rush. In the end I gave her 2 k for good service. The hotel security had kept her ID and called up to make sure everything was OK. I would also recommend The Filling Station for food and an interesting atmosphere.

[AsianPursuits]

There is no age limit nor age discrimination in the Philippines. In fact, senior citizens are revered and get special treatment. I have been to many nightclubs in Manila and AC and can confirm that age 60, you might even be considered a young pup. It is not uncommon for 80 year olds to be hanging out with 20 year old hotties in mini skirts and thongs. All that matters is the number of blue notes (1000 peso) you have in your pocket..

I've had many good nights at the old dance clubs of Angeles Fields Ave but never considered the Manila 'scene' as I do not consider I have game other than money. LOL.

I'll give it a shot on my upcoming trip.

[Goferring]

Do you have any guide as to the age that foreigners can have a good time here. I'm 60 and interested in the non-pro scene but maybe it's not really for me. Any age guidance?

As long as your heart still beats, then you are young enough. I know several guys who were having fun right up until the end and I mean that literally. 😱.

The non pro scene is much more interesting for the longer term. Endless hookers are great for a two week holiday but you can tire of them quickly after that. When in doubt, try a little of everything and see what you like best.

Enjoy. G.

[Engine Driver]

Do you have any guide as to the age that foreigners can have a good time here. I'm 60 and interested in the non-pro scene but maybe it's not really for me. Any age guidance?

There is no age limit nor age discrimination in the Philippines. In fact, senior citizens are revered and get special treatment. I have been to many nightclubs in Manila and AC and can confirm that age 60, you might even be considered a young pup. It is not uncommon for 80 year olds to be hanging out with 20 year old hotties in mini skirts and thongs. All that matters is the number of blue notes (1000 peso) you have in your pocket.

To have the best time at Royal, get yourself a table / sofa / half sofa. It will cost about 12 k which includes a 1 litre bottle of imported liquor of your choice (Grey Goose, Bombay Saphire, Black Label) mixers plus your own personal waiter. Service is amazing. Random girls will come and join your table and within 15 minutes you will have a full on party happening. There are few things as fun as dancing with a bunch of Pinay hookers.

Just do it. You won't have any issues.

The Indians generally reserve the best sofas and VIP areas and get the hottest chicks. But old white people can still have a great time. Royal doesn't have many Korean or Chinese customers which might be a good thing.

[AsianPursuits]

To: English Driver, Goferring, WestCoast1, Issaquah, .

Thank you so much for your recommendations. I ended up visiting Royal Club and it was a great spot. The decor, music, and vibes were all good, and there was a good mix of pros / non-pros. It was exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate the intel. I'll post a full review. Thanks again.

Do you have any guide as to the age that foreigners can have a good time here. I'm 60 and interested in the non-pro scene but maybe it's not really for me. Any age guidance?

[Neidermeyer]

Gentlemen,

After spending a couple of nights in Angeles City (see separate review in Angeles thread), I took the bus to Manila and spent Saturday night in Makati. Here are my thoughts.

Traffic - It's no joke. Be sure to allocate plenty of travel time, especially during rush hour. From the time my bus arrived at the Pasay bus terminal and I called a Grab car to pick me up, it was an hour before I arrived at my hotel in Makati (only 7 km away).

Airport - One piece of advice: be sure to check which terminal you are arriving / departing. There are four terminals at MNL and they're all completely disconnected; it's basically like four separate airports. If you end up at the wrong one it could take quite a while to transfer to another.

Hotel - I stayed at the City Garden Grand Hotel and can highly recommend it. The rooms are very clean and modern, it was girl friendly (they didn't even check her ID), and they have a fantastic roof bar / restaurant / pool with an amazing view. I ate there and the food was really good as well. The location is only a five-minute walk to P. Burgos and the Royal Club. From my perspective it was the perfect spot to stay. Note, don't confuse it with City Garden Hotel which is a different place just around the corner.

P. Burgos - After visiting Angeles City, I was most interested in hitting a normal bar / club in Makati but still wanted to see what P. Burgos had to offer, so I ducked into a couple of the bars. The setup in these places is different than Angeles City. I didn't see any stages or dancing girls; they're more like hostess bars where girls just drink with you. The quality of the girls seemed much better than Angeles, but the prices were also much higher. I didn't inquire about barfines too much but was quoted something like 8 K for BBFS in the corner of one bar (which would have been fun) but I'd also have to purchase like ten drinks on top of that. It all felt like price gouging so I didn't stay long.

Royal Club - As mentioned in my post below, Royal was a good spot. Granted, I don't have any other points of reference in Manila, but it was exactly what I was seeking. The place was mostly non-pros but there was a good mix of pros / semi-pros as well. My biggest criticism was that the overall quality was less than I would have expected. I'd say the average girl in the club was about a 6. I danced and flirted with a few non-pros but none were up for more than exchanging numbers. Since I was leaving the next morning, I ended up taking a semi-pro who was visiting from the province. She wanted 5 K which I thought was a bit high but she was really fantastic and it was getting late so I relented. It turned out to be the right decision. She was really great in bed and was much more fun and engaged than the Angeles girls I met. My only complaint was that she insisted on a condom, but was totally fine with everything else including DATY, which my Angeles girls wouldn't do. She spent the night with me and was really lovely. I'd recommend the Royal Club for anyone looking for a change of scenery from the Burgos bars.

Summary - While I was only in Makati for one night, I enjoyed it more than Angeles City. The environment seems more alive and there's a better energy. If you have the time and are looking for a less expensive, more raw scene, then Angeles is the place. Otherwise, if you only have a few days I'd recommend staying in Manila since traveling back and forth from Angeles takes a bit of effort and I'm not sure it's worthwhile. Further, while The Philippines certainly has its charm and the girls are indeed lovely, from hobbying perspective, if you're debating between Manila / Angeles or Thailand, I'd say Thailand is currently the better destination.

[Neidermeyer]

Night clubs and discos were closed for about 2.5 years due to the virus, so there's no point in searching for reports from that time. There are a number of reports on how fun Royal disco was back in 2019. Don't know if it still exists, but it is walking distance from Burgos. Go after 1.00 am, and you will pick enough freelancers there. Some of the night clubs in Malati were for Koreans, but Royal was for all nationalities.

To: English Driver, Goferring, WestCoast1, Issaquah, .

Thank you so much for your recommendations. I ended up visiting Royal Club and it was a great spot. The decor, music, and vibes were all good, and there was a good mix of pros / non-pros. It was exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate the intel. I'll post a full review. Thanks again.

[Docwiltro]

Next club was ZZYXZ. This was probably the highlight of my Manila trip. The girls were really cute with a good amount of freelancers. The male customers were mostly Koreans. Music was really good. Getting a table required a minimum 2 k order.

Being as disappointed as I was with the talent, I decided to skip Angeles and enjoy the rest of my stay in Cebu.

The trip may have been better if I had more time and tried out the dating apps. But for a quick trip, Manila was most disappointing.

It is good to hear ZZYXZ is still going strong: pre-pandemic pic below.

[SinfullyKorean]

I had low expectations coming to PH. Many told me the talents have dried up and it's not as p4 p friendly as it was pre pandemic. Still, I wanted to experience the islands for myself, wanting to decide on a semi permanent retirement location. I'd already been to VN and Thailand.

I started my trip with a short stay in Makati. A friend recommended I stay near P. Burgos, PH's walking street. I stayed in Isabelle Royale hotel. The listing showed 500 for guest fees. But the front desk security guy didn't say anything when I brought a lady from Tinder inside.

For the most part, PH was really bad for mongering. I went to Heartbeat Mega KTV. I believe it was about 1500 pesos / HR for their "performers" and 1400/ HR for their models. I selected a performer and spent about 3 hrs and 4 drinks. It was just ok. Maybe worth experiencing if you have the extra cash. But you're not really missing out on much if you forego.

Next was P. BURGOS itself. There are female touts selling "massage". Most are below average looking. I followed one OK looking lady into a massage shop and was quoted 500 P for an HR. But I wasn't too interested and left. Most of the gogo bars open at 8. I went to two of the bars. One hardly had any talent worth mentioning. Another (neon nights) had 2 out of 20 ladies that had cute faces. One of them had a small gut that detracted from her face. A few girls came over to ask for lady drinks while my friend and I were drinking our beers, scoping the talent. About an HR later, we left.

Finally, as my last option, I checked out some Tinder listings. I got matched with a very cute Vietnamese / Filipina. We didn't talk about pricing, so I wasn't sure if she was a pro or civie. She asked me to pay for her gran (400 P). She had a really nice body and I started to grind up against her ass. After we fucked, she asked for payment. I gave her 4 k and she was appalled. We argued for a while. Not wanting any potential legal problems, I paid another 1 k for her to leave.

The talent was disappointing in Makati. But I think it wouldn't have been too bad if the condo was decent. But it was really old, smelly, and small. If you decide to visit Manila, and a nice, clean, spacious condo is important to you, I recommend staying in the BGC area, which is supposed to be one of the newest "luxury" areas of manila.

Lastly, on my final night in Manila, I visited 2 clubs. First was XYLO in BGC. It looked really nice and upscale. But you need to get a table to enter and the minimum cost for getting a table is 6 k pesos. We went inside, but the scene wasn't that great. It seems like a luxury lounge for you to come with friends.

Next club was ZZYXZ. This was probably the highlight of my Manila trip. The girls were really cute with a good amount of freelancers. The male customers were mostly Koreans. Music was really good. Getting a table required a minimum 2 k order.

Being as disappointed as I was with the talent, I decided to skip Angeles and enjoy the rest of my stay in Cebu.

The trip may have been better if I had more time and tried out the dating apps. But for a quick trip, Manila was most disappointing.

[GahRunt]

All's well that ends well. Thanks Westie and Goferring for the sage advice.

Turns out she just has a short fuse. After asking me to book a grab and me taking 5 minutes to work out how, she says "I don't like being ignored" and "Forget it, I have stuff to do anyway". I suggested I just GCash her some taxi money and she did a 180 haha. Sent 1 k which was a little generous but I wanted to send a message that I wasn't a waste of time.

She messaged me when she got here and admitted to being nervous. She showed up to my hotel lobby with her auntie as she didn't know the area well. The aunt's presence caught me off guard but I'd read reports of girls using family as escorts before so the concept wasn't utterly foreign to me. She tells me her auntie was a hottie in her day and wound up marrying a chinese guy and popping out a litter of chinito's.

Anyway, ID was left at the front desk so my fears were for nought.

She met me with nervous giggling so. Gentleman that I am. I took her to a bar to chat and assuage her fears. I'm 6'2" and looking at our reflection in the elevator I was fucking floored at how tiny she is. 4'10", 47 kg and non existent tits, I got a raging stiff right there and then.

We chatted a bit, but it was mainly her talking about her chinese exes and how she's only into asian guys. Into the room and she immediately puts on some pinoy dramas. I try to make moves and she's a little standoff-ish so I gave her an out and told her if she didn't want this, just say so, no harm done.

Was definitely just nerves, because as soon as I started kissing her neck and groping her ass, she pushed my hand towards her ****. Eating her out and fingering her gspot had her writhing and saying "fuck you" and "tau ni ma" (chinese for 'fuck you' I think). I found this hilarious! Is it a cultural thing to cuss the person giving you head? I'll do so next time I'm throating a young pinay to verify.

This one liked it hard and deep and I happily obliged. The nymph came a few times in mish and doggy before I filled her up in prone. She's now laying in bed watching the same dramas and isn't very chatty so I'll probably have to make an excuse to get rid of her. I wouldn't mind spending more time with her, except she doesn't make great company.

Says her dad gives her an allowance and that she paid for the condo she was staying in previously with an ex so unsure if she's expecting to be paid so I'll assume not until she brings it up.

[WestCoast1]

In my excitement, I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. That is until I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad bahaha.

I'm with Goferring, if she got mad at the idea of showing her ID, then she's trying to hide it. Ask her again to see it on cam, tell her you want to make sure of her age. Then meet in a pubic place for coffee / snack. Look again at her ID and take a picture of it. She should not be defensive about any of this, as she will be aware that your hotel guard will force her to surrender it anyway once at the front door and show it to you if you ask to see it. Guards are also pretty good about spotting a fake these days.

If her ID has her picture taped on with scotch tape, its fake. If the pic is clearly not her, its fake (well it might be real, but its not hers). If the ID is past its expiry date there is a chance the guard won't accept it as valid. If there is no place on her ID for her signature, its not valid. College ID's are no longer considered valid (ID's must come from a government source, have a pic, a signature, a birth date, and almost always have a bar code or black stripe and other security holographic features). Most guards will accept a non-expired Barangay ID as long as its a small credit card-sized and either is laminated or is the newer plastic credit-card type (with holography, not a piece of paper). A piece of paper is never a valid ID. Vaccine cards are not a form of ID, but I took several girls in the past few months where it was accepted (the card had the girl's pic on it).

I also had a girl tell me she had a valid ID, then at the guard she showed on her phone a pic of her legit CITY OF MANILA COVID-19 VACCINATION ID, which is a pretty good ID. It had her picture, full name, Brgy number, birthdate, a QR code, and dosage dates. But it doesn't have a signature area. Its the same electronic vax record that I have. It was not accepted by the guard for two reasons, according to him: 1) There was no signature area; and 2) It was just an electronic pic on her phone. "If I will accept this then the girl will need to surrender her phone as the ID is inside the phone. Sorry". Well, he's probably right. Interesting that the girl said its her first rejection using her legit vax.

Another residence was requiring a surrendered ID and they wanted to view the girl's vax card (required for all entry at the time). I made sure that I photographed several of my regular's vax cards as they always had an ID, but having their vax card on them is happenstance. Surrendering her ID and showing her vax card on my phone worked.

If she is not willing to show you her (valid) ID, move on.

[Goferring]

Still, the possibility of jailbait is in the back of my mind, and she apparently doesn't drink so no opportunity to have someone check her ID before I dick her down.

Any of you have doubts about a girls age before? Any tips to check on the sly appreciated!

It can be REALLY hard to guess an Asian girl's age. Young look old, old look young so guessing if a 19 yo is legal or not is a mine field.

What did you do to piss her off about showing her ID? If you insulted her and she is angry, then fair enough. If she is just using it as an excuse to hide her ID and age, then it's a major red flag.

Having a coffee, meal etc with a young girl is no big deal. However, being alone in your room with her half / fully naked can have extremely serious consequences. I'd suggest you have a word with security and let them know that should you both return you want them to check, verify and keep her ID. This is standard practice at many hotels but you don't want to fall though and gaps.

Of course, many will say with millions of safe options, why even take the risk. Just move into girl #768346.

Take care. G.

[WestCoast1]

Its an odd bar. Eating / drinking area outside.

Inside its a small live band place, seats about 40, see pic. But they have GRO's whom the mama won't refer to as GRO (older, fair looking). They dress in street clothes or clubbing clothes. Was in again, a week ago. Mamasan brought me 3 girls from outside before I had a chance to get a beer on the table. The girls sat with me uninvited by me. The mama asked if I wanted to buy them a drink and I declined. She chat me for 10 minutes and asked me to buy them a drink 7 times. Downed my beer, paid the tab, and left. The band, which I came to see, was pretty good. But the mama was driving me crazy with drink requests. The door is to the left of this pic. There is a pool table to the right, in the back of the bar.

Came back a few nights ago to a different band (not bad). The mama stayed away and I didn't get hassled for anything. The place has a nice vibe to it.

Separately I walked into Amor's a few nights ago (Ebro St, behind V8 on Burgos). Same strange vibe, and I was the only customer (again). Turned and walked out.

[GahRunt]

Hey gents, new to the forum, new to the phils but not to mongering. Many thanks for all the field reports to date and will be contributing some myself.

Flying in on Monday with a plan to visit beach destinations and tee up some raw dogging in between. Got a room booked at city garden grand already for a few days.

In my excitement, I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. That is until I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad bahaha. I'll chalk it up to cultural differences and see if I can make it up to her with a dessert date.

I still need time to get my bearings clearly.

G.

[GahRunt]

Hey gents, new to the forum, new to the phils but not to mongering. Many thanks for all the field reports to date and will be contributing some myself.

Flying in on Monday with a plan to visit beach destinations and tee up some raw dogging in between. Got a room booked at city garden grand already for a few days.

I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. However I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad. I'll chalk it up to cultural differences and see if I can make it up to her with a dessert date.

Still, the possibility of jailbait is in the back of my mind, and she apparently doesn't drink so no opportunity to have someone check her ID before I dick her down.

Any of you have doubts about a girls age before? Any tips to check on the sly appreciated!