Makati

[WestCoast1]

I've posted a number of times over the years, but always forget my login details so I have to make a new account nearly every time. Anyway, after a couple days in Makati, here's what I've observed and experienced. I want to weigh in on the paid vs. Freebie discussion.

SNIP

It was literally a GFE, and I'll see her again. No money was directly exchanged, but I probably spent about 3000 on drinks while bar hopping; she wanted to drink at expensive places. Fair enough. She can't afford them and it's not that much to me. So I spent roughly the same amount of money each night, but I had a much better time with the "freebie" than I did with the P4P. That was my experience. YMMV.

Good FR. Previously we had a Member with the board name Freebie Fan (miss his posts), who often claimed the same, that you pay for it in one way or another way. Hope to hear more of your Phils travels.

[VainRooster]

I've posted a number of times over the years, but always forget my login details so I have to make a new account nearly every time. Anyway, after a couple days in Makati, here's what I've observed and experienced. I want to weigh in on the paid vs. Freebie discussion.

I spent time before I arrived on Tinder gold focusing on Manila. I'm a decent looking fellow, and I got heaps of matches, with many promises to meet up when I arrived. I (stupidly) made arrangements with a "girl" meet me at my hotel about an hour after I checked in. I didn't do my due diligence, and it turned out that "she" was a ladyboy, which she neglected to tell me before she came over. He pleaded to stay and suck me off, but I was somehow able to resist his feminine charms and told him to eff off. I gave him the cost of taxi fare as that was the path of least resistance and I was tired after a long flight. I could've / should've planned better, but I was with family before going to Manila and couldn't eek out any privacy for a video call. After a chuckle at my naivete, I soldiered on. I messaged another Tinder girl, who told me to visit her at a bar in Greenbelt. Again, off I went with as much energy and excitement as I could muster. When I arrived at the bar though, I discovered it was an expensive KTV and the girl just wanted me to buy her drinks with seemingly no intent to go home with me. Cutting my losses, I went to Havana, where I found the talent underwhelming. I then went to Burgos. I went in a few bars, but there wasn't anyone worth the price of a barfine and I gave up. On the walk home, a cute massage girl convinced me to let her come with me for 2000 for a BBBJ- I was too tired at that stage to do anything but lie back and be pleasured. She didn't give me the promised massage, and her BJ was barely adequate. I think I probably spent about 3500 on drinks & girls (ladyboy's taxi included), and wasn't really happy with how my first evening turned out.

For my second night, I decided to try another Tinder girl. She was about 25 years-old and cute with a nice body, but not a stunner. She has a normal job and is what some punters a while back called a freebie. We had a fun night out drinking, though her gay friend came along with us. I didn't really mind as he was a pretty funny guy, and he only had a few beers. After going to a few bars, the girl stayed with me at my hotel all night and we had two great sessions. It was literally a GFE, and I'll see her again. No money was directly exchanged, but I probably spent about 3000 on drinks while bar hopping; she wanted to drink at expensive places. Fair enough. She can't afford them and it's not that much to me. So I spent roughly the same amount of money each night, but I had a much better time with the "freebie" than I did with the P4P. That was my experience. YMMV.

[D Cups]

Benny, you need to come out of the cave now. It's 2019 and social media and internet dating have finally been invented. Most of the girls needing extra cash hang out on Pinay dating sites, wechat and Tinder.

BBBBenny and the Jets. I use FC but still rely on chance F2F meetings occasionally. Sometimes you get lucky at coffee shops, restaurants, etc.

[Engine Driver]

LOL but the clerks from SM, Landmark, Glorietta surely still need extra money to pay bills. Where do they hang out?

Benny, you need to come out of the cave now. It's 2019 and social media and internet dating have finally been invented. Most of the girls needing extra cash hang out on Pinay dating sites, wechat and Tinder.

[Wicked Roger]

The clerks still need extra money to pay for their bills. Where do they now hang out to get a part-time FL thingy?

They do Benny and so many places we could be here all day listing them.

So please PM me and I can cut this into bite sizes that make more sense.

Look forward to the PM.

[BennyMonger]

This made me laugh.

2002 FFS. That whole area is now built out. Benny needs to take a walk to Makati again (17 years after his last visit).

The clerks still need extra money to pay for their bills. Where do they now hang out to get a part-time FL thingy?

[BennyMonger]

This made me laugh.

2002 FFS. That whole area is now built out. Benny needs to take a walk to Makati again (17 years after his last visit).

LOL but the clerks from SM, Landmark, Glorietta surely still need extra money to pay bills. Where do they hang out?

[Kerrstar]

Saw this post back in 2002. Do these FL's still exist?

Also at the park you will be approach by many OKTs one of which I got to know, goes by the name JUN, his home number xxx xxxx.

Wow, you have one post and it's about FL's in Makati where you give a pimps name and number.

This sounds like either you are the pimp or it's a phone scam.

[Mr Enternational]

This made me laugh.

2002 FFS. That whole area is now built out. Benny needs to take a walk to Makati again (17 years after his last visit).

LOL. Shit. In 2002 I had never even been to Asia. Now I have been living there 9 years.

[Goferring]

This made me laugh

Benny certainly RTFF. Well done 👍 😁.

Good to see prices haven't risen that much in 17 years.

Hopefully Jun, the pimp, has graduated from using his mom's phone at home and now has enough money to get a cell phone of his own.

Post of the Year.

Enjoy. G.

[Red Kilt]

Saw this post back in 2002. Do these FL's still exist?

You know. The park / garden in front of Makati's Shangrila Hotel? Yes, the one with lotsa benches with many gals lounging around?

This made me laugh.

2002 FFS. That whole area is now built out. Benny needs to take a walk to Makati again (17 years after his last visit).

[BennyMonger]

Saw this post back in 2002. Do these FL's still exist?

You know. The park / garden in front of Makati's Shangrila Hotel? Yes, the one with lotsa benches with many gals lounging around? Well guess what, many of the gals are available FLs. Mostly are staff of the dept store like Landmark and Shoe-Mark or GloriettaMall. When shopping hour is over (around 8.30 pm or 9 pm) you will find lotsa them waiting for customers at the park.

Also at the park you will be approach by many OKTs one of which I got to know, goes by the name JUN, his home number 758 9899. Had a long chat with him while at the same time introducing me to many of the FLs.

Found that you can get a FL overnight for just 2000 Peso. (S $80) Good thing is that you can speak to gal first, to get to know what she is like, what she does / will not do and you can also tell her yr preferences. Or you could tell her yr hotel room no and she cud call / come to yr room, this way she doesn't need to pay a cut to the OKT, and you might another discount this way. He he he!

If you are adventurous, you can also go direct to the source, either Landmark or Shoemart to 'sian' the gals, ask them out to join you for dinner, followed by 'breakfast', if you know what I mean.

[Issaquah]

From what I gather (forum posts and YouTube videos) P. Burgos has a bunch of clubs where you have to go indoors, rather than sidewalk-oriented bars as you might see in some other Asian countries. And street options are dangerous and / or ladyboys. Am I right?

If I don't have the option of taking a girl back to my hotel, am I limited to massage shops, or are there short-time rooms nearby?

All of the clubs in P. Burgos and in Makati / Manila / AC that I know of you have to go indoors. There are several cafes on the street that you can eat / drink from to observe the scene and watch the ladyboys, FLs, and massage girls. Is the street scene dangerous? It all depends on if you take basic precautions and are smart about it, some will try and scam you and others will be just fine. There are several short time hotels within a couple of blocks of P. Burgos you can rent for 2 or 3 hours at a time.

[Sidtip]

Tip 500 in a rolled up wad that she had to unwind to count. By the time she did, I was outside.

I don't understand. Are you proud that you are tipping a lot or embarrassed that you tip little? Why do you need to roll up your tip?

Rolled it up because I felt it was too little for an hour of her time considering one of them let me finger her and whatever. But I was being cheap because doing this in 3/4 bars each night can easily eat up a lot of cash before you know it. 3 x 390, one drink for me, tip for waitress, tip for girl. Ends up being $50 for an hour.

I can end up spending $200+ before I walk outside and find a girl on the streets which is OK but probably more than others do.

Someone (mantanaman I think) keeps talking about how the the girls should be lucky to get a couple of dollars an hour because that's what they would earn in 7-11. But this is not 7-11 montanaman. These girls are letting us put out bits inside them and probably expect / deserve to earn a bit more than the $5 you feel is appropriate. It might make you feel like the Alpha male because you get to screw (financially) a Filippina but others try to show at least a bit of respect.

[Sidtip]

So your giving out tips on what to do with a bar fine having not bar fined girls in 42 days of being in manila? These are not tips they are hearsay paranoia. Have you personally had girls steal from you in the past? You might be a paranoid schizophrenic worrying about things that never happen. I have been mongering religiously for well over 20 years now and during that time I have never so much has a candy bar eaten or stolen from my room. As a mater of fact i have had girls leave the tip money because they were insulted that i still thought of them as working girls and not a girlfriend, they put money BACK.

The real tip is not to be paranoid about t

You need to tip a lot less when the girls don't do anything in the bars 100-200 is more than enough. These girls are not "masters at deception" this is the lowest level of deception you will run into. Your report about the pulls was solid but ruined by these paranoid delusions you have they are ridiculous, harmful to noobs.

My comments are based on conversations with the girls. They are not personal experience. I didn't see the Chinese customer who lost his money at the casino and then jumped of the Makati Palace Hotel roof, but I know it happened. That's the reason the hotel now has a second card that lets you access the lift. Just because you know what to do doesn't mean everyone knows what to do. I was trying to help newcomers.

I didn't know about the teaching English scam in China where the girls come you to you and ask you to follow them to a tea house to chat. If I hadn't read about that beforehand I could have been a victim.