Makati

[Cheema]

Maybe it's a language thing, but when you write things like

it sounds petulant, entitled and churlish, which would probably make some members reluctant to reply to your many private messages.

To be honest, you aren't going to get the type of visit you want. Pinays don't work that way. You can play your trip to the finest detail but girls will cancel, be late, just not show up, or be not what you expected. Whilst the basic premise of "one visit over 3/4 days" might work in a lot of cities, in Manila the more pressure the put on yourself, the more you'll be disappointed.

Anyway, enjoy your trip, and be sure to report back.

I am sorry for the useless debate I have started here, I have cancelled my trip to Manila and looking for some other destination anyway thanks for help.

[CallSign Papa]

And still they are not satisfied just because I ask some questions.

Maybe it's a language thing, but when you write things like

I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls

it sounds petulant, entitled and churlish, which would probably make some members reluctant to reply to your many private messages.

To be honest, you aren't going to get the type of visit you want. Pinays don't work that way. You can play your trip to the finest detail but girls will cancel, be late, just not show up, or be not what you expected. Whilst the basic premise of "one visit over 3/4 days" might work in a lot of cities, in Manila the more pressure the put on yourself, the more you'll be disappointed.

Anyway, enjoy your trip, and be sure to report back.

[Wicked Roger]

Wicked, you easily can answer but you take more than ten minutes to signal other member's "flaws" from your perspective. Stop pushing away the new members.

A3

[Cheema]

And some of them, with their thousands of posts have responded with help many times, only to find that the help provided is disputed, ignored, questioned or outright denied by a newbie seeking help. So, why help?

All the info that's needed, or that's useful is probably in the forum. After all, we all beat to a somewhat similar drum in our mongering quest.

And some of the people with thousands of posts actually do have full time jobs. Suprising huh.

It's interesting when I was new to to this forum I was denied any help and was told to write reports to get any recognition. Now I have been member of this forum for about 4 years and have written reports about Budapest, Vienna, Prague, Berlin, Frankfurt, saint Petersburg, Sofia, Bucharest, Warsaw, Dubai, Kiev, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Bangkok, Jakarta, Kuala lumpur, Istanbul, Baku, Tbilisi, Astana, Almaty, Dushanbe, San Jose, Costa Rica, Panama City, Tijuana, Mexico. And still they are not satisfied just because I ask some questions.

[FreebieFan]

Some of the members of the RTFF squad have thousands of posts. They have too much time on their hands. Best to ignore them.

And some of them, with their thousands of posts have responded with help many times, only to find that the help provided is disputed, ignored, questioned or outright denied by a newbie seeking help. So, why help?

All the info that's needed, or that's useful is probably in the forum. After all, we all beat to a somewhat similar drum in our mongering quest.

And some of the people with thousands of posts actually do have full time jobs. Suprising huh.

[Member #4566]

I will be visiting Makati for 4 days and will be staying at holiday inn from 24 -28 June.

I have some questions.

1. Is holiday inn girl friendly? Otherwise I can change hotel.

2 . I am looking for high end model type girls but don't have much time to find on my own can anyone recommend a bar / club, agency or any contact.

3 . I have written detailed reports for about 30 destinations at this forum and I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls.

Anyone willing to share some info can PM me.

Some of the members of the RTFF squad have thousands of posts. They have too much time on their hands. Best to ignore them.

[Wicked Roger]

Thanks for reply.

I did RTTF but most of info is bit old such as in posts of 2015 Havana club is recommended but in 2017 its called as dead. As I have experienced in other destinations that scene has changed drastically in last few years as these days model types don't hang up in bars or clubs and you need some contacts to find them and escort agencies are not reliable. Regarding Malaysia I requested but no one replied and I according to RTTF I went to beach club, Thai club and spa they mentioned but could not find anything special. As I am a tourist who occasionally monger I look for quality rather than quantity that's why I request for info because I usually visit a place for 3-4 days and don't want to waste once in a life time opportunity to sample the best that place has to offer. I don't visit a country again because want to visit the whole world. That's why I look desperate on my posts. I am sorry for these desperate looking posts. I try my best to contribute on this forum and have written many posts and also helped many on PM.

I am visiting 9 countries in 9 weeks and I take my time to RTFF and plan my visit, I PM people also. Maybe the Malaysian thread did not respond as you have a a history of questions? And you need some credibility before people pass up stuff.

But in response to you specific comment, if you RTFF there is a list of high end clubs (it is there I just checked) and a Google you will also find the same list (or roughly the same). Havana Cafe is mentioned after 2015, there has been comments from one senior about a high end lady he took (I know the price and service he received as I asked him via PM) - so it is there and the excuse that nothing is recent cannot fly.

Also plan and spend a few hours and you find anything you want even if you don't RTFF on this forum as many searches in Google help you (and have me recently understand the mongering layout and supplement my RTFF here).

As price seems no issue there are plenty girls be happy in the Philippines to help you spend it. Pinays are great at that trust me.

Have fun and once you have RTFF please contribute your findings with a FR and / or PM some of us. I did this when I first visited the country many years ago (and do so for other places new to me) - it proved invaluable rather than blindly asking a "please help me I have no time" question.

Happy hunting Cheema.

[Cheema]

There is plenty of time to RTFF and you can find as you have asked the same question in 2016 in Malaysia.

Lots of chatter here on model types, where to find, the pitfalls.

As for hotels did you not see the specific hotel thread as a quick read can answer that.

I am way busier that you as some people who know can agree and I still have to RTFF for say 5 minutes, read the FRs of use, form a conclusion and then ask a specific question.

People are way too nervous to hand out contact numbers and many have been burnt before myself included so unless I have met you is hard to give (as it is for many).

But try 10 minutes of your valuable time to RTFF and you can find all you need about questions 1 and 2 - trust me it works.

Look forward to your contribution.

Thanks for reply.

I did RTTF but most of info is bit old such as in posts of 2015 Havana club is recommended but in 2017 its called as dead. As I have experienced in other destinations that scene has changed drastically in last few years as these days model types don't hang up in bars or clubs and you need some contacts to find them and escort agencies are not reliable. Regarding Malaysia I requested but no one replied and I according to RTTF I went to beach club, Thai club and spa they mentioned but could not find anything special. As I am a tourist who occasionally monger I look for quality rather than quantity that's why I request for info because I usually visit a place for 3-4 days and don't want to waste once in a life time opportunity to sample the best that place has to offer. I don't visit a country again because want to visit the whole world. That's why I look desperate on my posts. I am sorry for these desperate looking posts. I try my best to contribute on this forum and have written many posts and also helped many on PM.

[Wicked Roger]

I will be visiting Makati for 4 days and will be staying at holiday inn from 24 -28 June.

I have some questions.

1. Is holiday inn girl friendly? Otherwise I can change hotel.

2 . I am looking for high end model type girls but don't have much time to find on my own can anyone recommend a bar / club, agency or any contact.

3 . I have written detailed reports for about 30 destinations at this forum and I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls.

Anyone willing to share some info can PM me.

There is plenty of time to RTFF and you can find as you have asked the same question in 2016 in Malaysia.

Lots of chatter here on model types, where to find, the pitfalls.

As for hotels did you not see the specific hotel thread as a quick read can answer that.

I am way busier that you as some people who know can agree and I still have to RTFF for say 5 minutes, read the FRs of use, form a conclusion and then ask a specific question.

People are way too nervous to hand out contact numbers and many have been burnt before myself included so unless I have met you is hard to give (as it is for many).

But try 10 minutes of your valuable time to RTFF and you can find all you need about questions 1 and 2 - trust me it works.

Look forward to your contribution.

[Cheema]

I will be visiting Makati for 4 days and will be staying at holiday inn from 24 -28 June.

I have some questions.

1. Is holiday inn girl friendly? Otherwise I can change hotel.

2 . I am looking for high end model type girls but don't have much time to find on my own can anyone recommend a bar / club, agency or any contact.

3 . I have written detailed reports for about 30 destinations at this forum and I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls.

Anyone willing to share some info can PM me.

[Member #4558]

Interesting and somewhat amusing FR CSP (the last bit about Saturday).

I have known a few guys who are so controlling they insist on Skype call to the cutie and show the room where the girl is. Calls always seem be scheduled around the time they should be in bed with us (anywhere between say 9 pm-3 am) and never a set time just in that window. But then they will suddenly change it.

That person can ruin the fun but also as you say the girl freaks which is what the LDR wants and thus gains 'control' and the cuties just won't take a chance at any time in case he calls demanding a Skype. There is a word for that sort of person but like a code violation LOL.

Good luck next time with Bella and thanks for sharing the mistakes as very few of us ever do.

One gal I met know her ways around her controlling BFs. She has started to meet me in her apt (BF pays of course). Last time I was there he called and they quickly switched to skype while I just sat in the sofa. She skyped whit him in the apts office. Some sort of preplanned event as me and her had already agreed what to do if her BF demanded a walk around I would stay out of sight. He calls every now and then without any system to it and partly demand she is home or if she is not its a video call so he can see where she is / who she's with.

Well this time he didn't demand a walk around into the Livingroom and we had fucked on the dining table so the bed-covers were in order. My shoes should have been visible in the hallway but I didn't hear anything so he obviously didn't notice them. I didn't think about it until I was about to leave.

[Shark5]

Interesting and somewhat amusing FR CSP (the last bit about Saturday).

I have known a few guys who are so controlling they insist on Skype call to the cutie and show the room where the girl is. Calls always seem be scheduled around the time they should be in bed with us (anywhere between say 9 pm-3 am) and never a set time just in that window. But then they will suddenly change it.

That person can ruin the fun but also as you say the girl freaks which is what the LDR wants and thus gains 'control' and the cuties just won't take a chance at any time in case he calls demanding a Skype. There is a word for that sort of person but like a code violation LOL.

Good luck next time with Bella and thanks for sharing the mistakes as very few of us ever do.

Great report. I just had to chime in on the skype thing. When I was working over seas I knew a lot of guys who insisted that their pinay GF's stay on Skype the whole time they slept, so when he woke up through out the night he would be able to see that she was at home. I used to get a kick out of this and would give them a hard time. I would tell them they had trust issues!! LOL.

[Wicked Roger]

(Session 1 on Saturday was nearly a no show and it took an hour of talking her off the ledge of cancelling, because her LDR boyfriend wanted to skype call at the same time we were supposed to meet and she freaked).

Interesting and somewhat amusing FR CSP (the last bit about Saturday).

I have known a few guys who are so controlling they insist on Skype call to the cutie and show the room where the girl is. Calls always seem be scheduled around the time they should be in bed with us (anywhere between say 9 pm-3 am) and never a set time just in that window. But then they will suddenly change it.

That person can ruin the fun but also as you say the girl freaks which is what the LDR wants and thus gains 'control' and the cuties just won't take a chance at any time in case he calls demanding a Skype. There is a word for that sort of person but like a code violation LOL.

Good luck next time with Bella and thanks for sharing the mistakes as very few of us ever do.

[CallSign Papa]

Firstly apologies, this is a bit of a waffle.

I can say proudly that I've made virtually every mistake it's possible to make in Manila. Some of those mistakes I made despite having read of other people making the same mistakes on this very forum. Never underestimate a stupid person's ability to think "it won't happen to me" immediately before it does. But I digress.

One of the things I do know well is that if you're going to plan a tight weekend of juicy pinay hole spelunking, don't schedule them too close together because one or all of them is going to run late and that will throw your whole plan out of the window. So I decided to experiment with a new system, where i would split 3 sessions into 4 hour windows on Friday / Saturday starting at 2 pm (giving me time to kick out my morning delight). 4 hours would factor in "late" time and enough time to get down to some serious bumping of uglies you would think.

Filipinas have other ideas.

Session 1, Friday, 2 hours in and Bella is a no show. I'm especially disappointed because Bella is the cream of the crop. 24, gorgeous large hazel eyes, slim figure but with generous apple sized boobs. But she had disappeared from Viber. When she finally replied she admitted that she was still at home and was too shy to come in case I was disappointed. FFS. What I should have done was push her to the back of the queue on general principle, but she was the itch I wanted to scratch and so after 10 minutes of assuring her by phone that everything would be copacetic when she arrived, she finally got in a fucking taxi. In short, the first girl arrived 3 hours into her 4 hour allotment. And of course, the second girl had already left from Cavite and was due to arrive a little early.

The obvious answer would have been to use my silver tongued charm to combine the two girls into one session, but I was frankly in a panic and in a rush to get into Bella's delightful little pants. It was therefore quite a shock when despite her hot and heavy texting, she started playing all coy once we were reclining on the sofa. Thankfully it was all a bit of a misunderstanding, she actually was being shy because she wanted to ask me to do something and she was embarrassed about it. It took 15 minutes (and a whisky and coke) before she finally admitted that she wanted us to start our naughtiness with me eating out her ass. Boy, that got her from a cold start to running redline in no time. It was only 30 minutes later when I saw the 8 missed calls on my phone that I remembered that I'd forgotten to worry about my second guest. She was waiting at the coffee shop next to my building but had thankfully only been there 5 minutes.

I called Bella a Grabtaxi and we planned our next meeting next week where she promised not to be late (as if). It was thus time for Maria to come up, (giving me literally seconds for the clean up / loose hair check) and this tiny 20 year old student whilst nowhere near as hot as her photos more than made up for it with a very cheeky personality. I was able to take the second session a lot slower (needing an hour or so for recovery time) and knowing I had a few hours to kill definitely made it more enjoyable.

Session 3 was a no show despite harassing me with texts the previous day to confirm date / time / place / colour of sofa etc. Simply didn't respond to any viber messages all day and meekly apologised the next day. I had a backup option planned for each session, but was simply too tired and decided to have a nap when Maria left around 10 pm. Awoke around midnight and headed to H&J for a quick beer before I decided to try the talent at Royal.

Left near to 2 am with a gorgeous little cutie in a black dress called Mel who had literally the softest silkiest skin I have ever felt, couldn't keep my hands off her until she left the next morning. 3 k well spent, we didn't discuss money at all until the minute before she left and I asked if I could reward her for her talent.

You don't want to know how my Saturday schedule went. This experiment had failed utterly.

(Session 1 on Saturday was nearly a no show and it took an hour of talking her off the ledge of cancelling, because her LDR boyfriend wanted to skype call at the same time we were supposed to meet and she freaked).

[The Tall Man]

My sincere thanks to the both of you, great sound advice that is truly appreciated.

The Tall Man.

Hey Tall Man,

I will try to answer some of your questions.

1. Bar girls will usually have condoms. I like to bring my favourite brand from home as I find the asian condoms too small and not as good. Although you will see plenty of bare-back photos here, I think covered full-service is more usual with a bar girl you just met, and probably a good idea for your mutual protection. BBBJ is usually no problem if you like. If you have special requirement like BBFS, photos, etc, better to clarify this before paying barfine.

2. If you have more than 5 days, a quick trip to Angeles might be worth it. IMHO, the scene in Manila is as good or better, but (very generally speaking) a bit more pricey. The scene in Angeles is different and worth checking out for a few days if you have the time.

3. To avoid the overnight girl wanting to stay too long, make sure to let her know in advance you have a business meeting the next day at a certain time. You can walk her out of your hotel and stick her in a taxi as you go to your "business meeting".

4. Let the girl know in the bar that you have a large dick and make sure she is ok with that before you pay the barfine. Sometimes it is better to choose a girl who has already popped out a baby for this reason.

5. Pretty much all hotels near Burgos should be girl-friendly. Make sure she has ID before you leave the bar. The more reputable hotels will check her ID for your protection.

6 & 7. As an alternative to the bars, the internet game can be fun too. Especially if you want afternoon hook-ups. I have used Tagged / Hi5 to good effect. I am sure Filipino Cupid and Facebook are good too. The internet hook-ups take a bit more work to set up, and you never know what you are going to get for sure until you see them, but you can get more "girl next door" types with lower mileage and 2000 p should suffice, which is cheaper than the bar fines on Burgos. Do your best to make sure she is legit and make her come to you. Most of my long term repeat girls I first met on internet. But generally speaking, the internet girls are bit more of a crap-shoot. Some real gems to be had, but also some real flakes. Do your best to weed out the flakes before bringing them over to your place. One good tip is to use "Grab" (like Uber) to bring the girls to you. You can monitor her progress on where she is on the app. When she turns up, have little chat with her over coffee or something, and if she turns out to be a flake, give her a few hundred pesos plus cab fare for her trouble and send her on her way as quickly as possible.

8. I like "Bottoms" the best, but you will have time to check them all out. The Burgos strip is fairly compact.

Here is my take and mostly the same as IgoforAsian but with some differences based on taste, experience and other factors.

1 Condoms and the use / non-use are debated a lot here. Many pinays I see don't like as prefer bareback but with FLs and bar girls take precautions is up to you clearly but some westerners end up getting the girls pregnant and some stand by the girl and support, others run for the hills, others deny and be a cheap charlie and some get DNA tests etc. You don't want to be in in those space.

2. For me AC is a no no as for me there is no soul and the girls not as good as elsewhere. But YMMV and I know others who love the place but for me I don't go there unless I am planning some form of naughty party etc as then is an ideal place. Am not the best person for that advice LOL.

3. Just be clear on your intentions. Many like to stay over as a nice bed, free breakfast etc, so who would blame them but get the menu clear and then wake up early get out (as if you go to a meeting) so she must go.

4. They all (or most) will complain for me is standard practice but some really like so when you are with them chat and joke about size and let them feel you in bar so no complaints later as that can be so frustrating and a waste of day.

5. Never known a hotel that's was not girl friendly. Some do take ID and call you when she goes, some don't. Depends how well you know the girl etc.

6 & 7 I used to use DIA and all sort of web site and there are many varying results plus loads of LBs also so be careful. IF not time then that is best way of the bars. If time then cultivate via FB the uni girls and then they will have friends if you are nice and polite, respectful and not a cheap charlie or an a**hole to them, they will be fine with you. We all have different ways but if time is against you find a bar girl you like see if she friends. Take her number and see her before she works / after hours as she gets the full cash not split with the bar etc this works and I have done this a few times in my early years.

8. Each person has a different view. I am never keen on Bottoms, I like High Heels but then I know the mamas as well. Also, Kojax and Plan be are favourite with some and I know girls from Rogues who are nice also. Best to visit, get a feel and see where you are most comfortable is my advice.

Happy hunting.