Makati

[Zeus78]

Hey Gents,

I need to share my P Burgos experience with you, for a number of reasons; firstly to vent, then to warn others of the potential pitfalls of this place of you don't keep your wits about yourself.

I only had a nights to work with so here goes;.

Last Tuesday evening;.

Arrived on P Burgos at around 9 pm, straight to Lips. A crazy place where the girls are quite aggressive and will jump onto you in a flash. Mamasan is quite pointed too and these girls will suck your wallet dry very quickly. I had two 20 year olds all over me with offers to barfine both at a slightly discounted rate. It got a bit heated and I decided to head to the gents to gather my thoughts before returning for one last drink. It was clear to me that mamasan had words with the girls, felt a bit uncomfortable and the bouncer was following me around, so I decided to barfine one of the girls in the end only for her to say she can't leave without her accomplice. That was it for me. I walked up to mamasan and provided my feedback, then promptly left. The obvious next spot was Maisons just done the road, similar vibe, received huge attention and had a line up of girls in front of me within a minute. Picked one who was by far the hottest but also quite aloof and inexperienced. More $ flowed freely with me buying drinks left righ and centre. Rookie error I know. So ended up leaving with the girl I chose only for her to lead me into another pub on our way to Sogo. More friends, more drinks and by now we were both quite intoxicated. Long story short, we ended up in a hotel room quite drunk and this girl telling me about her sick father and how she needs money to care for him, even on showed me photos of him in hospital. I made it clear that I paid her for a reason but she claimed to be tired and we both fell asleep shortly after. So, night one was a dismal and expensive disaster. But I did learn quickly.

Last Wednesday evening;.

Decided to give it another go but this time from the upper end at Nautica. A much more relaxed vibe, cheaper drinks and less aggressive girls, made my way down to V8 and then eventually walked past Plan be. This is where the fun started. Down the stairs and walked into the dimly lit seating area. Bought a drink and had a few girls on the stage step forward with one in particular who immediately caught me eye. Short, bubble butt and awesome tattoos. She did her job and smiled with intent, our eyes locked and the rest was history. Bought her a drink, a rum and coke which was quite strong as I took a sip to confirm. Barfined her and off she went to get dressed. She asked my if she could wear pants to which I had no objections. Minutes later she emerged. Oh my. She's beautiful. Much shorter with regular shoes in and a smile that could melt your heart. We ended up at Neon Nights, had quite a bit to drink, danced the night away, till early morning. Sogo was our next stop and all I will say is WOW! She was amazing. I woke up at around 6:30, got us coffee and juice and had to leave for work. She blew my mind, I was hooked.

Last Thursday night, my last night;.

Had a meal at the rib place up the road and took my chances at Neon Nights. Two 19 year old were introduced to me, beautiful girls and very keen but I was convinced. Had one drink and left for Plan be. As I walked in all the staff recognised me and within minutes had a drink and a friendly you girl in my side. But my eyes were surveying to room for the girls from the previous night. The girls who was with me noticed and asked who I was looking for, to which I explained. She asked for a minute as the girl I wanted was still preparing herself, make up etc. A few minute later she emerged and pretty much ran into my arms, holding tightly smiling from ear to ear. This made me feel wanted and once again the rest is the night was locked in. She did something that blew me away, took me to a local bbq market across the street from Royal, bought me bbq and we chatted there for an hour or two before leaving for Royal. Now, club Royal is an expensive place and it really hit my pocket. I wonder if it was her plan all along to end up there as she mentioned it the previous night too. But we had a good time one again, lots of drinks and shots. Eventually we ended up at Red Planet at 5 am Friday morning. Again. Just WOW!! She was very enthusiastic and caring, I melted once again. This time round the goodbye was bloody hard. I wonder if these girls just put on a big fat performance or whether they get somewhat involved emotionally, I will never know, but to me she seemed genuine and didn't want any handouts or presented sop stories about her family etc. She is very independent and have plans to visit Japan soon. Also didn't ask me for money. She sent me a text on my way back to the hotel, to thank me for treating her well and she enjoyed both nights with me.

I've read it before, I soaked up the advice from this forum and others and told myself to maintain control but this girl blew my mind. There is no way on earth our world will collide and result in anything beyond the transactional nights with her, but I'm a warm blooded man who felt 25 years old again. An incredibly sexy Pinay girl by my side who was also super intelligent, witty and independent. What can I say, I fell fairly hard.

We still communicate and she's keen to see me again but she might leave for Japan soon as this was her plan all along.

My sincere question to you is simply this; how do I get over her quickly? I know I need to.

My warning to all of you is to keep it transactional and if you're anything like me, a softy who is also a hopeless romantic. Just stay away!! These girls are taught how to produce a near flawless girlfriend experience. Couple that with booze and your being taken down a dark, insane rabbit hole.

[Muttley81]

Been a few updates to area so thought I'd update the map. As before colour strategy is as follows:

Orange = Pubs / Eating Places.

Purple = Gogo.

Red = Hotels.

Blue = Places to Get Supplies.

Green = Coffee Hangouts.

Google Maps has had some updates with street view for Burgos and Kalayan Ave updated in March 2023, all side roads street views go back to 2021 still.

Blue Parrot and Little Finger added, report for those below.

As previous post looking for feedback on Halim's still. Would also like to know if anyone has been in Heaven Bar or Luxxe. Heaven Bar had some girls in when I went but they left us completely alone and we were only customers, seemed a weird setup. I'm not sure on Luxxe either, pretty girls sat outside trying to get you in, potentially a new Gogo, but not been in myself to verify.

I've also added the location of General Pharmacy, as some previous posts indicated this is a pharmacy that gives pills such as viagra alternatives without a prescription. Conveniently located next to Sogo, but only open to 10 pm so some preplanning required.

[Muttley81]

As mentioned by a few below the Ringside replacement is open. Not quite sure on setup. Blue Parrot is downstairs bar, Little Finger is upstairs bar, they are run by same owner and you can transfer bills between the bars. Little Finger has open balcony to Blue Parrot, directly above stage, a few people were making it rain (with very small amounts of money, not anything like Korean rain party in Angeles). For some unknown reason Blue Parrot also had a marching band playing outside at 9 pm, loud enough to give me a headache. By 10 pm they had thankfully disappeared.

Most of management has transferred from Nautica, some of girls from there have become mamasans. A lot of girls are newly shipped in though. Nautica remains open, girls are being requested to transfer over to new place (s) but some are choosing to stay. Nautica has new girls in, including a stunning tall young spinner who I will definitely get to know better at some point.

Both new bars were ok, sure they'll get better with time. Welcome new additions to Burgos nightlife. Hope there are a few more over coming months and some of shisha places disappear for good.

[Idiot182]

Same here. Two bars girls I know texted me they would be starting there 1st weekend in June, next week. They are coming in from province, doubt they would be traveling for nothing.

Confirmed, this place opened already, they were doing some kind of Chinese dragon dance opening ceremony when I walked by, did not go in though.

[Locamotive]

I have it on fairly decent authority that this place will actually be having its grand opening tonight (sorry for the late notice. This is my first post to the forum) - authority being the muscle that has managed Nautika across the street since asking me to come by.

Same here. Two bars girls I know texted me they would be starting there 1st weekend in June, next week. They are coming in from province, doubt they would be traveling for nothing.

[D Cups]

I don't think that place will be finished in 2023. It was absolutely riddled with white ants / termites so it will not be a simple renovation.

As your photo shows and I saw when I walked past yesterday, a lot more work is required yet.

Hiya RK, glad to see you made it through the plandemic! I try to message you but your PM is turned off, mate. I'm in Valencia / Negros for over a year now.

[Idiot182]

I don't think that place will be finished in 2023. It was absolutely riddled with white ants / termites so it will not be a simple renovation.

As your photo shows and I saw when I walked past yesterday, a lot more work is required yet.

I have it on fairly decent authority that this place will actually be having its grand opening tonight (sorry for the late notice. This is my first post to the forum) - authority being the muscle that has managed Nautika across the street since asking me to come by.

[Red Kilt]

Bar where Ringside used to be is called Blue Parrot. It doesn't look any further towards completion than it did when I last looked at it at end of March. I was told opening was due on 16th April. .

I don't think that place will be finished in 2023. It was absolutely riddled with white ants / termites so it will not be a simple renovation.

As your photo shows and I saw when I walked past yesterday, a lot more work is required yet.

[Muttley81]

Bar where Ringside used to be is called Blue Parrot. It doesn't look any further towards completion than it did when I last looked at it at end of March. I was told opening was due on 16th April. Didn't go in Nautica when out last night so didn't get update on when move is happening.

[WestCoast1]

Great information, thanks Muttley81.

I am heading to Manila in June and will provide a detailed FR once my trip concludes.

One question if I may;.

Are there any ST hotel room options near Burgos or would you mind sharing which bars offer rooms?

Lokal Hostel, right in the V8 / Neon Nights / Coco Rock gogo bars area of Burgos St. However you don't enter on Burgos St, you walk thru a breezeway back to Ebro St and walk up to floor 2 or 3 of the hotel for the office to check in. Also at the corner of Burgos / Makati Ave is a Sogo hotel with ST rates. Also a few blocks away in the other direction (across Kalayaan St towards the old Jools gogo bar) is a Red Planet hotel which can be had for about p1500/ night.

[Zeus78]

Following on from WestCoast's excellent post with photos of bars I have created this map for places of interest around Burgos area:

Orange = Pubs.

Purple = Gogo.

Red = Hotels.

Blue = Places to Get Supplies.

Green = Coffee Hangouts



Google and Apple Maps are both well out of date hence this. By no means covers everything in area, these are my personal recommendations only. All Gogo's are identified whether I recommend them or not. For reviews of bars please see my post history. I have identified when a Gogo is upstairs for those less mobile. O'Reilly's is also upstairs, but I'm honestly not sure if this is Gogo or Pub, or mixture of both.

Will update as things progress, I know a couple of new Gogo's should be open in the next couple of weeks already.

If anyone has info on Halim's please share. I think I went here a couple of years ago, it was upstairs above a tattoo shop. Walked past it a few times since, plenty of nice girls outside restaurant but cannot see a way to go upstairs. Girls from other bars have identified this as the place I went.

Great information, thanks Muttley81.

I am heading to Manila in June and will provide a detailed FR once my trip concludes.

One question if I may;.

Are there any ST hotel room options near Burgos or would you mind sharing which bars offer rooms?

[Ghost D]

Following on from WestCoast's excellent post with photos of bars I have created this map for places of interest around Burgos area:

O'Reilly's is also upstairs, but I'm honestly not sure if this is Gogo or Pub, or mixture of both.

Great report Muttley81 and WestCoast (as usual).

I visited O'Reilly's a couple of weeks ago and yes, it seems to lack a sense of identity, it replaces Rogues which was fantastic before the pandemic as a Sports / Gogo bar, but O'Reilly's isn't really a Rogues replacement and it isn't really an Irish bar. To qualify the Irish bar statement; any Irish bar should have good drink first and foremost (which I was hoping for), and the problem with Rogues was that the bar itself was a small island bar, with no draft beer facilities due to no space, the renovations that took place was to remove the low catwalk stage, remove the booths and replace them with open seating along with green wall paint and just left the bar just as before, hence the only drink that you get is from bottles / cans.

I visited there with my GF so had to leave after it became apparent that there were a number of freelancers around and they were keen to try and drum up business, so I had to leave.

In fairness to O'Reilly's part of it was still under renovation when I was there, so it may turn out to be a great place in the future, from what I could see it just seemed to have removed the best bits of Rogues and offer nothing new. The doorman said that the unit below O'Reilly's (previously Hollywood I think) was also under renovation and the idea was to open up some sort of mini complex.

[Muttley81]

Following on from WestCoast's excellent post with photos of bars I have created this map for places of interest around Burgos area:

Orange = Pubs.

Purple = Gogo.

Red = Hotels.

Blue = Places to Get Supplies.

Green = Coffee Hangouts.

Google and Apple Maps are both well out of date hence this. By no means covers everything in area, these are my personal recommendations only. All Gogo's are identified whether I recommend them or not. For reviews of bars please see my post history. I have identified when a Gogo is upstairs for those less mobile. O'Reilly's is also upstairs, but I'm honestly not sure if this is Gogo or Pub, or mixture of both.

Will update as things progress, I know a couple of new Gogo's should be open in the next couple of weeks already.

If anyone has info on Halim's please share. I think I went here a couple of years ago, it was upstairs above a tattoo shop. Walked past it a few times since, plenty of nice girls outside restaurant but cannot see a way to go upstairs. Girls from other bars have identified this as the place I went.

[Ablaze001]

The Going rate at the bars on Burgos Street, Makati is 10,000 Peso.

4000-Bar fine.

5000-Girl, Long or short time depends on the girl.

1000-Bar Drinks.

10,000 PESO.

Very overpriced and over rated. Go to Quezon City to places like Pegasus, Grand Classique bar, or Heatbeat where you will be out 4000 Peso, or Starfleet in Pasay city.

Not worth it. Angeles prices are good.

Warning: Watch out when you are in dimples. The girls are pick pockets there.

Now prices are lower, I think because 10:1 girls: boys ratio (based on 4 bars).

Burgos street girlie bar prices (rounded), 15th April 2023:

Bar fine - 3500.

Girl price. ST 3000, LT 5000.

Drinks - 150 beer for me, 300 tequila for girl.

Room (provided by bar) - 2000.

So, total spend (2 drinks + bar fine + sex): ST 7000 ($126), LT 9000 ($160).

P.S. Streetwalker prices are same (3-5 k), even for ladyboys.

[Random Sample]

Sure. No disrespect intended. The whole courtyard from Starbucks thru Havana Cafe to the Cafe / bakery on the opposite corner has been redeveloped. The courtyard is still physically there but the majority of the tenants have changed. You may that find the odd girl but not like before.

Cheers. G.

I was out at Greenbelt on Tuesday evening meeting some friends for dinner at around 8:30 pm. I walked in from Makati Avenue and made my way towards the Starbucks and Courtyard area where Havana Cafe used to be (now replaced by Wildflour). Even before I get to Starbucks, there are 3-4 cute girls hanging out a few meters from Starbucks on the right hand side where there is. Wall for sitting. They see me, stand up, make eye contact, and flash pretty smiles. I continue walking.

I pass Starbucks and it seemed as if the entire outdoor seating was populated by trannys. The ones in seats closest to the walkway called out and waved trying to get my attention.

Walking beyond Starbucks and the courtyard, where there is more seating by the wall, were several more groups of girls, not as cute as the first group. They position themselves in my path so I have to maneuver around them to keep walking.

When getting to the covered bridge area where you can turn right to go to Greenbelt 5 or go straight ahead to the restaurants, that area had a few more girls who were even more aggressive. One stood up and blocked my path, looking directly into my eyes, smiling, and twirling her hair on her finger.

When you get to Bloom, there are a number of girls there who could be FL. Just saying there was a very unbalanced Female to Male ratio there, and most of the females were there unaccompanied, from the looks of things.

From my quick walk through the area, there were probably 15-20 girls looking for a man, and probably the same number of trannys outside of Starbucks. It doesn't have the same vibe from the Havana Cafe days, but the place was still quite hoping if you are looking to pick up some company for the evening. If it was like this on a Tuesday night, I wonder what a weekend would be like.