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[WestCoast1]

I suspect Matt is talking about one of the numerous roof top bars around town. Many are very nice with gorgeous girls in abundance. However, I'll restate my earlier comment that none are going to be keen to entertain a new arrival with his dick in one hand and cash in the other. Their target is long term working expats as a minimum with pinoy industrialists' sons as the preference. These places are not point and shoot for $100.

Yes. I thought Matt might be talking about Club Royal, about 3 blocks from Burgos. Those are freelancers (and attractive), but one might not be able to distinguish between the FL and regular girls. Same goes for Club ZZYZX disco in Malate (upscale clientelle). Getting slapped by some young cutie not in the biz (or facing her boyfriend who was across the room) t'ain't pleasant, and hence is not a good thought for Matt's point / shoot needs.

Matt it would be great if you could tell us the layout of the Hi-end bar, or of the type of girls there (are they all pro's)? Or the location? Short of that we are back to escort services, or Burgos bars.

[Goferring]

For you and me, if a Burgos girl runs in the night, we just consider that a 1-off, the cost of playing the game, and continue the game. But if the gents want to play the higher-end game, they should expect not to take the chance of disappointment...

Valid point. For a multi month stay, one night is hardly noticed where as for a three day warrior, it's a serious setback.

I've also noticed that my best "luck" always comes towards the end of my trips. By then, I guess it's a combination of me being less desperate / more choosey and the girls instinctively knowing that they must earn the right to be chosen. Short term visitors don't even get to this point and are often still falling in love with any brown body that sits next to them.

Cheers. G.

[TjBrazil]

I suspect Matt is talking about one of the numerous roof top bars around town. Many are very nice with gorgeous girls in abundance. However, I'll restate my earlier comment that none are going to be keen to entertain a new arrival with his dick in one hand and cash in the other. Their target is long term working expats as a minimum with pinoy industrialists' sons as the preference. These places are not point and shoot for $100.

Enjoy. G.

Gof, When I was in Rio one of the hookers told me 80% of young women are prostitutes or will participate in pay for play when needed. What would you say that number is in Manila? In theory, if you are dressed nice, clean shaven, not over 300 pounds and just propositioned women at stores, restaurants, malls, and most retail establishments, what percentage of these "regular" girls would accept money for sex. Let's put their age range at 18 to 35.

[JohnDeoderp]

Yes, specifically. There is a separate barfine amount paid directly to the bar before taking the girl out of the bar, typically p3500-4000 specific to the bar. Then there is a negotiated tip with the girl, prior to her agreeing to leave the bar with you. Typically in the p4-5-6000 range for you, to be paid upon her departure in the morning. Total costs might be p3900 to the barfine (paid at the bar when departing), p5000 to the girl (tip) in the morning, and p500 in drinks at the bar, so about p10 k all in (USD $190, about). If you want her only for ST, you might negotiate a p4000 tip (as opposed to 5 or 6k) and tell her 4 hours and 2 pops (or 2 hours and 1 pop) in order to get rid of her and get some sleep.

You will need to be specific in chat in the bar with the girl. If you expect no condom, you should mention that. If you expect her to stay until 8 am and give 2 pops (evening and morning), you should mention that. You are at the girl's mercy if you don't tell her what is expected and get her agreement BEFORE leaving the bar. Have some fun, report back, and tip your cabbie.

Thank you good sir!

[Goferring]

Gents, is there such a 'super high end' bar? I am aware of only the Burgos bars...

I suspect Matt is talking about one of the numerous roof top bars around town. Many are very nice with gorgeous girls in abundance. However, I'll restate my earlier comment that none are going to be keen to entertain a new arrival with his dick in one hand and cash in the other. Their target is long term working expats as a minimum with pinoy industrialists' sons as the preference. These places are not point and shoot for $100.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

Thank you for your help!! In the past I knew there was a bar super high end where for a big fine you can bring home very very sexy girls but forgot the name!!

Gents, is there such a 'super high end' bar? I am aware of only the Burgos bars. MG, cost is similar in all the Burgos bars (about p10 k) to get a guapa for the night. I mentioned my fav 3 bars full of pretty girls, and all the Burgos bars are a short walk from each other on the same street.

Sounds like the Burgos girls are becoming hardened and trying to work to rule which is a shame. There was a time when they were very easy going and flexible both in and outside the bars. Runners and attitudes were very rare. We all have our preferences but I've never discussed a tick list of activities, preferring to go with the flow and find her particular skill set. I was rarely disappointed and sometimes very pleasantly surprised. An overnight LT was also a given which was good as I like to be able to get rid of morning wood.

As for having to insist in bare back, there's no need for blasphemy.

I would agree with this assessment, especially before Covid. All of my Burgos girls stayed as long as needed in the morning, sometimes lazily hanging around past noon. But the post-covid world has changed the barfine system a bit, as seen by the early re-opening gents reporting night runners. For you and me, if a Burgos girl runs in the night, we just consider that a 1-off, the cost of playing the game, and continue the game. But if the gents want to play the higher-end game, they should expect not to take the chance of disappointment.

MG, in the bar, you can also negotiate a higher tip to the girl (s). If one of your mates wants his girl to stay till noon and give 3 pops (sana all), just negotiate that with an extra 1 or 2 k. And pay up for a membership here and get PM. Best $20 you can spend.

[WestCoast1]

Thank you Wicked Roger!! Can I ask you to PM me? Or how can I pm you? Thank you.

Matt: You don't yet have PM capability.

[MatteoGilett]

What exactly is your "high end" budget?

What is your 5 star hotel?

Who are your clients? Koreans? Chinese? Japanese? Different groups have different taste.

Hotel we will stay ShangriLa.

Clients are German and Americans.

Thank you for your help!! In the past I knew there was a bar super high end where for a big fine you can bring home very very sexy girls but forgot the name!!

[MatteoGilett]

As Westie said you can do that.

Alternatively some of us have good lookers on our speed dials so you can PM for those as this is likely the better way as tried and trusted.

Look forward your PM.

Thank you Wicked Roger!! Can I ask you to PM me? Or how can I pm you? Thank you.

[MatteoGilett]

Escort services.

Alternately walk into Lips, V8, or Maison bars on Burgos St with your mates (or go there in place of them) and point-and-shoot as many lookers as you have clients. Ask for a mama and tell her exactly what you (your clients) want / need.

Really appreciate, thank you!

[Goferring]

You will need to be specific in chat in the bar with the girl. If you expect no condom, you should mention that. If you expect her to stay until 8 am and give 2 pops (evening and morning), you should mention that. You are at the girl's mercy if you don't tell her what is expected and get her agreement BEFORE leaving the bar. Have some fun, report back, and tip your cabbie.

Sounds like the Burgos girls are becoming hardened and trying to work to rule which is a shame. There was a time when they were very easy going and flexible both in and outside the bars. Runners and attitudes were very rare.

We all have our preferences but I've never discussed a tick list of activities, preferring to go with the flow and find her particular skill set. I was rarely disappointed and sometimes very pleasantly surprised. An overnight LT was also a given which was good as I like to be able to get rid of morning wood.

As for having to insist in bare back, there's no need for blasphemy.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

New here and read your post about the prices at each club. Can you give an idea of how much the tip is? And is that for LT or ST?

Yes, specifically. There is a separate barfine amount paid directly to the bar before taking the girl out of the bar, typically p3500-4000 specific to the bar. Then there is a negotiated tip with the girl, prior to her agreeing to leave the bar with you. Typically in the p4-5-6000 range for you, to be paid upon her departure in the morning. Total costs might be p3900 to the barfine (paid at the bar when departing), p5000 to the girl (tip) in the morning, and p500 in drinks at the bar, so about p10 k all in (USD $190, about). If you want her only for ST, you might negotiate a p4000 tip (as opposed to 5 or 6k) and tell her 4 hours and 2 pops (or 2 hours and 1 pop) in order to get rid of her and get some sleep.

You will need to be specific in chat in the bar with the girl. If you expect no condom, you should mention that. If you expect her to stay until 8 am and give 2 pops (evening and morning), you should mention that. You are at the girl's mercy if you don't tell her what is expected and get her agreement BEFORE leaving the bar. Have some fun, report back, and tip your cabbie.

[JohnDeoderp]

Escort services.

Alternately walk into Lips, V8, or Maison bars on Burgos St with your mates (or go there in place of them) and point-and-shoot as many lookers as you have clients. Ask for a mama and tell her exactly what you (your clients) want / need.

New here and read your post about the prices at each club. Can you give an idea of how much the tip is? And is that for LT or ST?

[Dg8787]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

What exactly is your "high end" budget?

What is your 5 star hotel?

Who are your clients? Koreans? Chinese? Japanese? Different groups have different taste.

[Goferring]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

Hate to break it to you but the very high end aren't going to go with a pack of guys who arrived in town two days ago. I'm not sure if your buddies' budgets extend to the apartment leases and Mercedes that these girls command.

I'm not trying to be a smartass but foreigners often arrive expecting instant access to the cream of the crop while the truth is we really operate in the middle: too scared to go down skid row and not invited to the true top end of town.

Westie is correct: online escort service have many model quality girls. Look for the agencies that list how old and touched up their photos are. Skip the girls on hook up apps with heavily filtered photos.

If you / they prefer to see and select girls face to face then Burgos is the best bet. KTVs have some stunning girls but they often cannot leave the premises.

Alternatively, a few guys with a table and bottles flowing in one of the nearby Poblacion clubs will soon draw a crowd of pretty and willing girls. However, this will be a big night out, not point and shoot. I'm not sure if that's what you prefer.

Enjoy. G.