Makati

[Goferring]

You will need to be specific in chat in the bar with the girl. If you expect no condom, you should mention that. If you expect her to stay until 8 am and give 2 pops (evening and morning), you should mention that. You are at the girl's mercy if you don't tell her what is expected and get her agreement BEFORE leaving the bar. Have some fun, report back, and tip your cabbie.

Sounds like the Burgos girls are becoming hardened and trying to work to rule which is a shame. There was a time when they were very easy going and flexible both in and outside the bars. Runners and attitudes were very rare.

We all have our preferences but I've never discussed a tick list of activities, preferring to go with the flow and find her particular skill set. I was rarely disappointed and sometimes very pleasantly surprised. An overnight LT was also a given which was good as I like to be able to get rid of morning wood.

As for having to insist in bare back, there's no need for blasphemy.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

New here and read your post about the prices at each club. Can you give an idea of how much the tip is? And is that for LT or ST?

Yes, specifically. There is a separate barfine amount paid directly to the bar before taking the girl out of the bar, typically p3500-4000 specific to the bar. Then there is a negotiated tip with the girl, prior to her agreeing to leave the bar with you. Typically in the p4-5-6000 range for you, to be paid upon her departure in the morning. Total costs might be p3900 to the barfine (paid at the bar when departing), p5000 to the girl (tip) in the morning, and p500 in drinks at the bar, so about p10 k all in (USD $190, about). If you want her only for ST, you might negotiate a p4000 tip (as opposed to 5 or 6k) and tell her 4 hours and 2 pops (or 2 hours and 1 pop) in order to get rid of her and get some sleep.

You will need to be specific in chat in the bar with the girl. If you expect no condom, you should mention that. If you expect her to stay until 8 am and give 2 pops (evening and morning), you should mention that. You are at the girl's mercy if you don't tell her what is expected and get her agreement BEFORE leaving the bar. Have some fun, report back, and tip your cabbie.

[JohnDeoderp]

Escort services.

Alternately walk into Lips, V8, or Maison bars on Burgos St with your mates (or go there in place of them) and point-and-shoot as many lookers as you have clients. Ask for a mama and tell her exactly what you (your clients) want / need.

New here and read your post about the prices at each club. Can you give an idea of how much the tip is? And is that for LT or ST?

[Dg8787]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

What exactly is your "high end" budget?

What is your 5 star hotel?

Who are your clients? Koreans? Chinese? Japanese? Different groups have different taste.

[Goferring]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

Hate to break it to you but the very high end aren't going to go with a pack of guys who arrived in town two days ago. I'm not sure if your buddies' budgets extend to the apartment leases and Mercedes that these girls command.

I'm not trying to be a smartass but foreigners often arrive expecting instant access to the cream of the crop while the truth is we really operate in the middle: too scared to go down skid row and not invited to the true top end of town.

Westie is correct: online escort service have many model quality girls. Look for the agencies that list how old and touched up their photos are. Skip the girls on hook up apps with heavily filtered photos.

If you / they prefer to see and select girls face to face then Burgos is the best bet. KTVs have some stunning girls but they often cannot leave the premises.

Alternatively, a few guys with a table and bottles flowing in one of the nearby Poblacion clubs will soon draw a crowd of pretty and willing girls. However, this will be a big night out, not point and shoot. I'm not sure if that's what you prefer.

Enjoy. G.

[Wicked Roger]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

As Westie said you can do that.

Alternatively some of us have good lookers on our speed dials so you can PM for those as this is likely the better way as tried and trusted.

Look forward your PM.

[WestCoast1]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

Escort services.

Alternately walk into Lips, V8, or Maison bars on Burgos St with your mates (or go there in place of them) and point-and-shoot as many lookers as you have clients. Ask for a mama and tell her exactly what you (your clients) want / need.

[MatteoGilett]

Hello guys, I will visit Manila in the next 2 weeks and I will be there with some of my clients, some of them really do not care about costs / money, they want the best quality in terms of girls and they want to make sure to bring the girls back to their hotel. Any place / super high end place to suggest? Thank you!

[Turgid]

IMO In Philippines it still depends on how much you want to pay / spend and what is your time frame. You don't need to spend big bucks and there are always many choices depending what you like and need. I was recently a few weeks in Manila mostly Makati and BGC and paid almost nothing for girls. The problem for some might be that at least always for me the first days are very slow and then only after some days I started to get connected with "online girls" (I don't know why it takes time first). So if you are in a hurry to get action or only spend a few days around you might have to spend quite a lot. But I was not in a hurry, was on a budget and just rested a few days after flying from Europe. Or actually I still went out with some girls but these didn't end up in having sex, which was fine for me. Then after a few days, after one weekend, I got a message from a Pinay who wanted a hook up. I ended up paying nothing or actually paid her Jollibee meal. Quite attractive 25 yo with a normal body, not thin but not chubby really. After ST she went and I ordered her a Grab taxi. The folowing night she wanted to join for overnight for some money and even 1 k peso would have been good but I declined and just rested. The following days I met some local friends and some social media girls I sometimes have chatted with while overseas. Ended up having sex with 58 year old MILF. Damn those Filipinas really stay looking younger then their ages (I'm in late 40's myself) and I wanted to try that. Of course nothing special but she stayed overnight chilling. Also ordered her then a Grab ride home. Then I was drinking, shopping, eating with some local girl friends. Went to Burgos only to drink with that one 30+ year old girl. And shopping with 20+ girl. Of course that 30+ girl wants to have a family of her own but she is okay with just hanging around. Damn some Burgos bars are 24/7 so we went there after Greenbelt was closed and damn there is difficult to stop drinking and dams she is also a beer and a whisky drinker. Of course then sex is not good after finishing bar hopping 6-7 am and also the following "morning" because of headache, hangover etc. Then I ended up spending one last week with a local 28 year old girl who was between her jobs so she had time to spend with me and have GFE sex every morning / night for free of course. Spent only money eating in restaurants and visiting one other hotel for a weekend.

So you don't need to spend almost anything if you don't want. And still choose what you like to do. I don't like to go to those Burgos girly bars anymore as I did when I was younger. I don't think they are worth spending those big bucks. But those bars need to make up for lost covid business. Of course some also use expensive call girls. I sort of understand that as well if you have and want to splash around. It is not good for even more inflating prices though.

You seem to get lots of freebies. I take it you're a youngster.

[WestCoast1]

Interesting that WowWowWow / Occulto was one of the higher priced bars. It's a bit out of the way and pretty dingy inside.

Its not dingy. Complete remodel. The exterior is much like Fyre, with occult symbolism and bright neon colors. The interior has some symbolism also, but is mostly dark in color, and the lights are turned down low.

For the newbies, remember that all these prices can be heavily negotiated down for a second meeting off the books. Take one for the team, pay list price, get her number, then meet again before work.

Girls in several Burgos bars recently were unabashed about cheat-the-bar opportunities and giving me their phone numbers (and I never even barfined them).

[Pekkakoo]

Wow, first time in PH and Asia in general and these prices are nuts. Guys paying 150 - 200 for just ST and stuff. I just left Latin America and you can get better deals or similar pricing in America's backyard. Imagine coming all the way to Asia, South East Asia and paying 200 for box on a girl that isn't even all that. What in the world is going on out here?

I damn sure missed on the golden era. 50-100 more and you have Europe prices. And if you include FKKs in Germany and stuff you actually pay less. Had a girl quote me 400 USD from Tinder. This is crazy. Glad I'm young and don't have to rely on tricking. But damn was at least hoping to have it as a option. No way I'm paying these. Idk if its the Korean tricks or what.

No way Jose. ID rather fap before paying all that here in PH. You can go to Brazil and get a actual pornstar looking woman for around that rate in the Rio clubs.

Madness.

IMO In Philippines it still depends on how much you want to pay / spend and what is your time frame. You don't need to spend big bucks and there are always many choices depending what you like and need. I was recently a few weeks in Manila mostly Makati and BGC and paid almost nothing for girls. The problem for some might be that at least always for me the first days are very slow and then only after some days I started to get connected with "online girls" (I don't know why it takes time first). So if you are in a hurry to get action or only spend a few days around you might have to spend quite a lot. But I was not in a hurry, was on a budget and just rested a few days after flying from Europe. Or actually I still went out with some girls but these didn't end up in having sex, which was fine for me. Then after a few days, after one weekend, I got a message from a Pinay who wanted a hook up. I ended up paying nothing or actually paid her Jollibee meal. Quite attractive 25 yo with a normal body, not thin but not chubby really. After ST she went and I ordered her a Grab taxi. The folowing night she wanted to join for overnight for some money and even 1 k peso would have been good but I declined and just rested. The following days I met some local friends and some social media girls I sometimes have chatted with while overseas. Ended up having sex with 58 year old MILF. Damn those Filipinas really stay looking younger then their ages (I'm in late 40's myself) and I wanted to try that. Of course nothing special but she stayed overnight chilling. Also ordered her then a Grab ride home. Then I was drinking, shopping, eating with some local girl friends. Went to Burgos only to drink with that one 30+ year old girl. And shopping with 20+ girl. Of course that 30+ girl wants to have a family of her own but she is okay with just hanging around. Damn some Burgos bars are 24/7 so we went there after Greenbelt was closed and damn there is difficult to stop drinking and dams she is also a beer and a whisky drinker. Of course then sex is not good after finishing bar hopping 6-7 am and also the following "morning" because of headache, hangover etc. Then I ended up spending one last week with a local 28 year old girl who was between her jobs so she had time to spend with me and have GFE sex every morning / night for free of course. Spent only money eating in restaurants and visiting one other hotel for a weekend.

So you don't need to spend almost anything if you don't want. And still choose what you like to do. I don't like to go to those Burgos girly bars anymore as I did when I was younger. I don't think they are worth spending those big bucks. But those bars need to make up for lost covid business. Of course some also use expensive call girls. I sort of understand that as well if you have and want to splash around. It is not good for even more inflating prices though.

[Muttley81]

Fyre: 7 k + tip, from a GRO and then the (hot) mama. The place was on fyre with lovelies. Approximately 20 girls, two chubs, all the rest good bods -- tall, skinny, good asses in various ass-showin' kini's. At one point, a whale came in and sat in a booth. The mama brought him about 10-11 girls who crowded into a booth that can hold 7-8 people (flesh on flesh everywhere).

A girl sat with me and chat for while. 25, small, hot / cute, killer smile. After a few minutes I called the waitress over to buy the girl a drink. Waitress: "Sir beer for the girl will be p880. But shots like tequila is 440. What do you like for her?" Nearly fell over backwards when she said 880 for a beer*. I ordered her a shot. The girl sat / chat with me for 5 minutes before she hit the shot, and she stayed another 10 minutes after. There were only 2 customers originally, myself and the whale, but as I was billing out two larger groups of gents came in.

Thanks for update, saved me a lot of trawling on my return to Burgos this weekend after 5+ weeks away.

The 800+ PHP for a beer trick isn't new, Dimples has been doing it since not long after it opened. Always twice cost of normal lady drink in my experience so far. Intent is that girl sits and sips beer which takes a lot longer than downing a tequila / apple juice, she therefore sits with you longer and you get hassled less by serving girls for 'another drink'. Not a bad plan if you intend on spending some time there, but as you said, kick in the nuts compared to your 150 PHP beer.

[WestCoast1]

Westie, Your usual great reporting.

TYS. My journalism training came from the Sam Houston Institute of Technology.

Interesting that WowWowWow / Occulto was one of the higher priced bars. It's a bit out of the way and pretty dingy inside. I'm assuming it still offers the curtained off booths?? If so, being one of the few with sex on site earns bonus points.

I did not walk up the short flight of stairs to see the curtained area, so I don't know if that transferred to the new remodel. After LP went out of biz last year (it came / went several times over 6-ish months), there was a near-complete remodel inside over a few months. At one point while passing by one evening I noticed a conveyor belt system on the ceiling (like an American dry cleaner shop). A few months later when I returned, I noticed that everything that had been remodeled had been removed, and a new remodel was underway (the current setup), and the conveyor was gone.

I must say, Burgos has always been expensive but some of those prices represent very little change over even ten years ago. Most have seen the girls tip expectations go up a little but nothing compared to the price rises in AC, Subic and even any semi decent girl online.

Ya its still about 10 k, give or take p1 k, in almost all bars (except Fyre). This has been the approximate price for about a decade, if not more. There is something a bit sinister / negative happening here, which I will detail later.

Amazing review, Westie! How long did it take you to do this comprehensive intel?

About one week. I was busy *pervin-on-Burgos* most nights.

Was there any bar that had a higher percentage of boobage but not fat?

No. The place with the highest % of hooterism was Plan B, but there was plenty of middle-heavy to go with the top-heavy in that bar (Big Bird-ism).

[D Cups]

Amazing review, Westie! How long did it take you to do this comprehensive intel? Was there any bar that had a higher percentage of boobage but not fat?

[Goferring]

Hit a number of Burgos bars recently....

Oculto (formerly Lion's Pride, formerly WowWow bar): barfine p4400 (per door girl, mama and later GRO) + tip. Still the same small bar and layout..

Fyre: 7 k + tip, from a GRO and then the (hot) mama. The place was on fyre with lovelies...... After a few minutes I called the waitress over to buy the girl a drink. Waitress: "Sir beer for the girl will be p880. But shots like tequila is 440. What do you like for her?" Nearly fell over backwards when she said 880 for a beer*....

Westie,

Your usual great reporting.

Interesting that WowWowWow / Occulto was one of the higher priced bars. It's a bit out of the way and pretty dingy inside. I'm assuming it still offers the curtained off booths?? If so, being one of the few with sex on site earns bonus points.

Fyre is obviously trying to differentiate itself as the place to be and priced accordingly. Interesting take in the old single / double drinks. I guess in some ways it makes sense: a beer takes much longer to drink than downing a shot. At least they were good enough to be upfront about it. At 880, I could see some arguments if guys weren't aware first.

I must say, Burgos has always been expensive but some of those prices represent very little change over even ten years ago. Most have seen the girls tip expectations go up a little but nothing compared to the price rises in AC, Subic and even any semi decent girl online.

For the newbies, remember that all these prices can be heavily negotiated down for a second meeting off the books. Take one for the team, pay list price, get her number, then meet again before work.

Cheers. G.