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[Kabul Guy]

Well, we all know that the world is not a perfect sphere like a globe so a string might not work is the distances and close. Off for beer to calm my OCD.

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How do you know that your globe is not an oblate spheroid?

Have you measured it?

Have another beer.

[Wicked Roger]

Roger,

Do these also include the budget carriers, Air Asia, Cebu Pacific and the like? The consolidators that I use don't and for me the budget carriers offer the best routes as well as the best price. That's why I double check on Wiki. Yes it's another step but it ensure all airline options are checked.

Saw the FR Gofering but I search all those as some of the web site exclude certain airlines. So some won have Air Asia or CPac for example.

I also see the carriers and check on that carrier web site to see if any promos IE cheaper fare (sometimes I get lucky). As you know I fly a lot and I do this all the time so am used to this and I find that 10 ins of searching I can find all I need.

Very much like RTFF here if you make time to do it and don't just keep asking LOL.

[Goferring]

Roger,

Do these also include the budget carriers, Air Asia, Cebu Pacific and the like? The consolidators that I use don't and for me the budget carriers offer the best routes as well as the best price. That's why I double check on Wiki. Yes it's another step but it ensure all airline options are checked.

I stand corrected. Skyscsnner includes the Budget carriers. At least the ones I use. 👍.

[Eszpresszo]

Roger,

Do these also include the budget carriers, Air Asia, Cebu Pacific and the like? The consolidators that I use don't and for me the budget carriers offer the best routes as well as the best price. That's why I double check on Wiki. Yes it's another step but it ensure all airline options are checked.

I found my from KUL to DPS on Skyscanner, because they did specifically have Air Asia flights dominating the flight options. Though the actual operators of the flights were Batik and Malindo. That's where things get complicated. But, also note that Skyscanner is not a consolidator, rather it is a "travel fare aggregator website and travel metasearch engine". Same goes for Momondo. The best use of these sites is to direct you to the consolidators for the best flights or better yet, the actual airlines when they have competitive fares on their own sites. But, you are correct to do all your homework to see what options the metasearch engines might not have looked at.

[PinaLove]

Roger,

Do these also include the budget carriers, Air Asia, Cebu Pacific and the like? The consolidators that I use don't and for me the budget carriers offer the best routes as well as the best price. That's why I double check on Wiki. Yes it's another step but it ensure all airline options are checked.

I'm a fan of skyscanner. That site I'll often include the LCC (low cost carriers) but not always. Into / out of clark I will often see options for Scoot and Cebu Pacific.

The options are growing for CRK.

Also another thing in your mix the road trip from MNL to AC can be used as just an extension of your flight. Sometimes it is harder to co-ordinate a trip to land into CRk where as once on the ground and in the car from MNL to AC you can be on the sites and texting. If you are also travelling on business then this time in the car can be the time to catch upon work emails form when you were out of contact.

[Goferring]

Or try sites such as Skyscanner, Amadeus, Fareboom, GotoGate. Easy, simple, fast and you can sort by airline, by time of journey, by number of stops / direct. Can't see the difficulty in this. Some people like to make complication Goferring LOL.

Roger,

Do these also include the budget carriers, Air Asia, Cebu Pacific and the like? The consolidators that I use don't and for me the budget carriers offer the best routes as well as the best price. That's why I double check on Wiki. Yes it's another step but it ensure all airline options are checked.

[Wicked Roger]

If I want to know which airlines offer a (near) direct service from cities X to Z, I just Google either cities' airports. One of the first results will be the Wikipedia entry. They list every destination by airline, including the budget airlines not listed on the consolidated apps.

It's then a simple matter to get prices for the chosen routes direct from the airlines or apps.

If no direct flights are listed just pick the best hub near your intended destination.

Or try sites such as Skyscanner, Amadeus, Fareboom, GotoGate. Easy, simple, fast and you can sort by airline, by time of journey, by number of stops / direct. Can't see the difficulty in this. Some people like to make complication Goferring LOL.

[Bushes]

The other 3 also have great prices but go the other way around, adding hours to the trip. The funny thing is that the refillable cup will almost take up all the carry on luggage space! LOL

they make a pit stop at the Buc-ee's in Madisonville for your extreme junk food fix.

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[Goferring]

You need to stop looking up flights on those half-ass airfare sites and apps.

If I want to know which airlines offer a (near) direct service from cities X to Z, I just Google either cities' airports. One of the first results will be the Wikipedia entry. They list every destination by airline, including the budget airlines not listed on the consolidated apps.

It's then a simple matter to get prices for the chosen routes direct from the airlines or apps.

If no direct flights are listed just pick the best hub near your intended destination.

[Bushes]

Eva is great and has nice clean airplanes and better staff than any of the US carriers. It is also a lot cheaper. I heard about the buses but never took. The connections are much better than Japan because that adds another 2 plus hours to a trip. Taipei and Hong Kong and Singapore are my choice connection points. PAL is not always cheaper and the service and planes are not that great. It is hard to earn the reputation PhilippineAirlines Always Late.

You need to stop looking up flights on those half-ass airfare sites and apps. Evaruns a daily flight from IAH to TPE, with good direct connections to almost all major cities in Asia at a fair, if not bargain price. I got round-trip to BKK the December before last, for less than $700. If you live in Dallas, they run a free shuttle for passengers to IAH on a nice, full-size coach that takes about 3 hours each way. The coach has Wi-Fi, a toilet, free soft drinks and they make a pit stop at the Buc-ee's in Madisonville for your extreme junk food fix. "The Big Three" (Emirates, Qatar and Etihad) all service the major East Asian cities on a eastbound route out of DFW or IAH, at prices somewhat lower than American or European carriers. I rode Qatar Airways to KUL last March for only $653.

You would be surprised how often you get a better rate to some destinations (domestic and international) when you fly out of Austin. We had a discussion about that on the Brazilian forums, though the reasons for that discount are a bit debatable and I won't touch on the subject here. In any case, two or three stops hits me as unnecessary. Where do you live anyways? El Paso? Lubbock?

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[Eszpresszo]

Give me some cities that have non stop flights to Manila. From here (Texas) flights include two or three stop overs making trip much longer than it needs to be. Thanks. FT.

You need to stop looking up flights on those half-ass airfare sites and apps. Evaruns a daily flight from IAH to TPE, with good direct connections to almost all major cities in Asia at a fair, if not bargain price. I got round-trip to BKK the December before last, for less than $700. If you live in Dallas, they run a free shuttle for passengers to IAH on a nice, full-size coach that takes about 3 hours each way. The coach has Wi-Fi, a toilet, free soft drinks and they make a pit stop at the Buc-ee's in Madisonville for your extreme junk food fix. "The Big Three" (Emirates, Qatar and Etihad) all service the major East Asian cities on a eastbound route out of DFW or IAH, at prices somewhat lower than American or European carriers. I rode Qatar Airways to KUL last March for only $653.

You would be surprised how often you get a better rate to some destinations (domestic and international) when you fly out of Austin. We had a discussion about that on the Brazilian forums, though the reasons for that discount are a bit debatable and I won't touch on the subject here. In any case, two or three stops hits me as unnecessary. Where do you live anyways? El Paso? Lubbock?

[SaltyPete]

Well, we all know that the world is not a perfect sphere like a globe so a string might not work is the distances and close. Off for beer to calm my OCD.

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The shortest distance between any two points is a line, whether the object the points lie on is a rectangle, sphere, egg, turd or folded Universe. A Great Circle is the perimeter of a plane that passes through the Earth's center, such as the Equator and all Lines of Longitude. A Great Circle Route appears curved because you are looking at it from the perspective of being directly above the Equator. But if you were to orient the Globe to be directly above the Great Circle Route, you'd see it was straight line and the Equator would appear curved (but it is actually still straight because it is a Great Circle!

And for Thread Relevance, a Great Circle Route is the fastest airway to travel to Manila (not accounting for winds, of course).

[Bushes]

Well, we all know that the world is not a perfect sphere like a globe so a string might not work is the distances and close. Off for beer to calm my OCD.

This is just great circle navigation, it has been known for years, since days of sailing ships. Just take a globe and a piece of string and connect two cities and you will easily see that this gives the shortest route between any two points.

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You guys are playing havoc with my OCD. 😁.

I'm off to get a life now..

[Goferring]

Pic of the flight path. From NY, flys north-northwest over Canada...

I think you meant north-northeast.

You guys are playing havoc with my OCD. 😁.

NY to Alaska is NNW. Once past the North Pole, Russia to PI is actually SSW.

I'm off to get a life now. . .

[Kabul Guy]

Pic of the flight path. From NY, flys north-northwest over Canada, appears to go over the North Pole, way north of Europe, northern Russia, and down into asia. Interesting non-east / west track.

This is just great circle navigation, it has been known for years, since days of sailing ships. Just take a globe and a piece of string and connect two cities and you will easily see that this gives the shortest route between any two points.

If you are talking about points in the Southern Hemisphere then you will most likely go over Antarctica.

It only appears to be counter intuitive because you are used to looking at a flat 2 dimensional projection of a 3 dimensional object.