Makati

[WestCoast1]

They take the holy week thing pretty serious here I guess.

Somewhat: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/19/a...rnd/index.html.

Its Good Friday. Enjoy the pics.

[Transporter]

Sure. No disrespect intended. The whole courtyard from Starbucks thru Havana Cafe to the Cafe / bakery on the opposite corner has been redeveloped. The courtyard is still physically there but the majority of the tenants have changed. You may that find the odd girl but not like before.

Cheers. G.

Looking for a pic of the courtyard, this is the best I could find.

[WestCoast1]

Is everything closed here today and tomorrow? I'm new and first time in Phil. They take the holy week thing pretty serious here I guess.

You are in a Catholic country? Maundy Thursday and Good Friday, most everything will be closed. Convenience stores and gas stations might be open. Various places will re-open on either Saturday, Sunday, or Monday. Gogo bars will probably be open.

[DafukuSayToMe]

Is everything closed here today and tomorrow? I'm new and first time in Phil. They take the holy week thing pretty serious here I guess.

[WestCoast1]

10,000 PESO.

Very overpriced and over rated. Go to Quezon City to places like Pegasus, Grand Classique bar, or Heatbeat where you will be out 4000 Peso, or Starfleet in Pasay city.

Not worth it. Angeles prices are good.

Warning: Watch out when you are in dimples. The girls are pick pockets there.

Good report. Did you get nicked in Dimples? I've been in there a dozen times since the re-opening a year ago, and dozens of times before pandemic; never a problem.

[Yuri]

The Going rate at the bars on Burgos Street, Makati is 10,000 Peso.

4000-Bar fine.

5000-Girl, Long or short time depends on the girl.

1000-Bar Drinks.

10,000 PESO.

Very overpriced and over rated. Go to Quezon City to places like Pegasus, Grand Classique bar, or Heatbeat where you will be out 4000 Peso, or Starfleet in Pasay city.

Not worth it. Angeles prices are good.

Warning: Watch out when you are in dimples. The girls are pick pockets there.

[Goferring]

What counts as "province"?

Literally anywhere outside a city proper? Or way the fuck out in the countryside in Mindanao?

Somehow getting the feeling it would be difficult to convince a girl from 3-4 hours outside of Manila to jump on a bus, though I am very interested in the concept.

Generally in Manila I offered 18-19 why / o PL girls 4 k. Most accepted without hesitation. A few wanted more; they were discarded from the selection process. I tried with 3 k but ended up paying a bit more as transport fee etc.

I think I posted before that I regard anything outside MNL or CEB as " the province" more based upon attitudes than geographic location.

However, in the above context, I meant anyone away from the redlight or bar precincts. Pretty girls are everywhere, not only in 5000 p GoGos. Go and have a look at any dry market sometime and you will see absolute goddesses walking around there to buy a pound of carrots and three onions. Sure no on-point makeup nor micro shorts but also no attitude nor entitlement either.

Nothing wrong with the middle of nowhere in Mindanao. Don't knock it until you have tried it. 🙂.

Sure, 4 hours across Manila is a big ask due to the horrendous travelling conditions and the level of competition and availability means that she may show and the guy doesn't, having found someone else in the meantime. Provincial Cebu to Cebu City, SanCarlos to Cebu, Gensan to Davao, Nowheresville in Negros to Dumaguete are all achievable.

3 to 4 k LT is fair in the big smoke. A newbie might be asked that for ST or a bargain hunter might pay less. As usual, YMMV.

Enjoy. G.

[DoktorEn]

I totally agree. The number of times I've seen a gorgeous provincial princess step onto 20 p jeepney / trike / angkot is ridiculous. Others are welcome to the 5000 p barfines plus tip plus attitude to match.

Enjoy. G.

What counts as "province"? Literally anywhere outside a city proper? Or way the fuck out in the countryside in Mindanao? Somehow getting the feeling it would be difficult to convince a girl from 3-4 hours outside of Manila to jump on a bus, though I am very interested in the concept.

Generally in Manila I offered 18-19 why / o PL girls 4 k. Most accepted without hesitation. A few wanted more; they were discarded from the selection process. I tried with 3 k but ended up paying a bit more as transport fee etc.

[Goferring]

I do not believe in spending lot of money for a pussy....I will stick to my online sweet country girls....

I totally agree. The number of times I've seen a gorgeous provincial princess step onto 20 p jeepney / trike / angkot is ridiculous. Others are welcome to the 5000 p barfines plus tip plus attitude to match.

Enjoy. G.

[Sammon]

I've always been a big proponent for guys spending their money and enjoying it however they wish. However, newbies should be aware of just how far up the cost curve this is. 10 to 20 k all in for what is essentially one ST is many multiples of what would be charged in most other markets. As reference points, my highest serious quotes ever were 10 k per hour for an IG model and 15 k overnight for a stunner recently returned from Dubai.

Generally speaking, one only has to look at the SA thread to see just how much some guys put their Sugar Babies on a pedestal and pay outrageous amounts to hook up with them. I've heard the term Financial Domination mentioned a few times and it seems to be apt.

Again, I'll emphasize that this is not directed at HK. He paid his money and obviously had a good time and that's great. However, others should know it's a niche market.

Enjoy. G.

I do not believe in spending lot of money for a pussy. Most I ever spent is $400 for a Las Vegas girl. And that too overnight. She was GFE. In Atlantic City I used to give $200. Once I won $45000 in Atlantic City on a very good day and I went to a Korean massage place and got a very pretty young girl for three days together for $300 per day. She was a sweetheart. We did lots of things together. At that time I knew a mamasan at the massage place.

As things go in Philippines it is not wise to spend more than $200 on any girl. I know in Angeles by the time you take girl out you already spent $200.

I will stick to my online sweet country girls who I promise 2500 LT but give 3000 and some change for transportation. They are very happy.

[Goferring]

Moto1452,

Seeking is hands down the best resource in Manila. A few tips based on my experiences:

6. Requested allowance rates will be comparable to the high-end freelancer rates, between PHP6,000 and PHP10,00 or more. I was able to negotiate every ask down by around 2 k by focusing on my budget for allowance rather than her "worth. ".

7. Plan taking her to dinner and budget between PHP3,000 ($60 USD) and PHP7,000 ($140 USSD) for both of you.

10. Don't expect overnights. She is probably working or attending classes during the day and will want to head home to sleep.

Have fun!

I've always been a big proponent for guys spending their money and enjoying it however they wish. However, newbies should be aware of just how far up the cost curve this is. 10 to 20 k all in for what is essentially one ST is many multiples of what would be charged in most other markets. As reference points, my highest serious quotes ever were 10 k per hour for an IG model and 15 k overnight for a stunner recently returned from Dubai.

Generally speaking, one only has to look at the SA thread to see just how much some guys put their Sugar Babies on a pedestal and pay outrageous amounts to hook up with them. I've heard the term Financial Domination mentioned a few times and it seems to be apt.

Again, I'll emphasize that this is not directed at HK. He paid his money and obviously had a good time and that's great. However, others should know it's a niche market.

Enjoy. G.

[D Cups]

Radian,

First, I found women who were hot enough to bang in almost every bar I visited. But not all hotties were viable bar fine candidates once I started talking to them. I learned over a very short learning curve that the youngest and hottest tended to have the worst attitudes and personalities. For my personal tastes, enthusiasm takes equal or even greater weight than pure physical looks. So take time in the bar to talk to her by buying a lady drink. Find the right balance between looks and personality. It's worth the modest investment of $5-6 to get 20-30 minutes of her time before you pull the trigger.

As to your specific question, you will find more choices and better value (about half the cost) in Angeles City. In the most active bars, there were never less than 20 girls working with at least 5-7 of them hot enough for me to be interested. Be picky and take your time. And budget at least $15 per bar for your drink + a lady drink before you budget for bar fines and tips.

By the way, the reverse is true about your attitude and personality. Be the happy guy who's having fun! Talk to anyone, make jokes, be interesting. If you go into a bar to be a lurker in the back row seats, you won't get decent results.

Have fun!

Happy Kat I like your attitude. I have gotten more choosy as I age what with many regulars in PI, a live in Filipina GF, a brown sugar in USA and three phenomenally busty dominicanas that I only see annually but what a treat. Still, it is fun to dabble in unexplored territory. Every pussy is still different and an exciting adventure! Get some!

[MrHappyKat]

MrHappyKat, as someone who has recently spent a lot of time in both AC and MNL, which do you think was best for girl quality / experience?

I'm arriving later this week, don't have a hotel booked yet, and deciding whether to stay in Makati or trek over to Angeles. I'm aware that food and facilities are better in Manila, but as I'm only there for 4 days its the girls that take precedence.

Radian,

First, I found women who were hot enough to bang in almost every bar I visited. But not all hotties were viable bar fine candidates once I started talking to them. I learned over a very short learning curve that the youngest and hottest tended to have the worst attitudes and personalities. For my personal tastes, enthusiasm takes equal or even greater weight than pure physical looks. So take time in the bar to talk to her by buying a lady drink. Find the right balance between looks and personality. It's worth the modest investment of $5-6 to get 20-30 minutes of her time before you pull the trigger.

As to your specific question, you will find more choices and better value (about half the cost) in Angeles City. In the most active bars, there were never less than 20 girls working with at least 5-7 of them hot enough for me to be interested. Be picky and take your time. And budget at least $15 per bar for your drink + a lady drink before you budget for bar fines and tips.

By the way, the reverse is true about your attitude and personality. Be the happy guy who's having fun! Talk to anyone, make jokes, be interesting. If you go into a bar to be a lurker in the back row seats, you won't get decent results.

Have fun!

[MrHappyKat]

Where do you find the best sugar dates, I've only used seeking.com.

Moto1452,

Seeking is hands down the best resource in Manila. A few tips based on my experiences:

1. Timing is important: Don't bother messaging more than 7 days before you arrive. 3-4 days is optimal.

2. Change your Seeking profile location to Manila when you want to start sending & receiving messages, and make sure your profile is set to visible in search.

3. Don't bother using Seeking in Angeles City. There are very few viable active profiles in the AC area. I suggest PinaLove instead.

4. As with messaging in your home country, try to move the conversation off the site (to WhatsApp) ASAP. Do not mention anything P4 P related or risk being banned by Seeking for a TOS violation.

5. Once on WhatsApp, make sure you discuss that you are looking for fun (short term arrangement) on your 1st date. But you may want to hint at the possibility of a longer arrangement in the future.

6. Requested allowance rates will be comparable to the high-end freelancer rates, between PHP6,000 and PHP10,00 or more. I was able to negotiate every ask down by around 2 k by focusing on my budget for allowance rather than her "worth. ".

7. Plan taking her to dinner and budget between PHP3,000 ($60 USD) and PHP7,000 ($140 USSD) for both of you.

8. All of my sugar dates told me I had to use a condom. All of them back down from that when I explained I would show them a fresh test (taken the day before my flight). Do not offer more money for BB. Just move on.

9. She will be late. Plan an extra 30 minutes for travel time and traffic.

10. Don't expect overnights. She is probably working or attending classes during the day and will want to head home to sleep.

Have fun!

[Radian]

Last day in the PH before flying home and I wanted to get the most of it.

MrHappyKat, as someone who has recently spent a lot of time in both AC and MNL, which do you think was best for girl quality / experience?

I'm arriving later this week, don't have a hotel booked yet, and deciding whether to stay in Makati or trek over to Angeles. I'm aware that food and facilities are better in Manila, but as I'm only there for 4 days its the girls that take precedence.