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[Member #4387]

True Pinay gals have no clue on time LOL however they do stay longer.

Vegas girls are all greedy bitches who care little about service unless you are dropping 500 or more and even than its iffy.

PC out.

Well I've had loads of fun in Vegas and drops nothing on girls at all here (well ofcourse some btl service and fingerfoods at times). This beeing the western world and all I don't give girls a daim here. I don't do prostitutes. But maybe the prostitutes are greedy. In LV there are enough horny groups of girls comming in from all over. Many are fine with ONS (which is what I call it in the western world).

Skoggy out.

[Mbsl65]

Buddy of mine hits LV a lot. He met a girl there he wanted me to meet, about 8 months ago. Once we were in town, he took me to the nightclub to meet her. She's black, hot. He originally said she was mid 20's, and I thought hooker, as he's approaching 60. When we met in the dark club, I got close to her face as we departed and I said goodbye into her ear. A close look at the face, her mannerisms, led me to think she's in her mid-30's and appears younger from makeup and a toned body. I told him she's a hooker and he said he suspected. Once back at the hotel he was trying to entice her to come to his room. Finally she txt: "Make me an offer I can't refuse". We laughed. He splayed seven $100 bills on the bed and took a picture, then txt her the pic. She sent back: "Haha you want me to send my gramma to your hotel?" The place is out of control.

My home town in USA is LV while I live in USA. My ex is a manager of one of the top hotels in LV. Apparently most folks don't know Vegas and they get taken in Vegas. There are lots of opportunities in Las Vegas for mongering instead of paying to hookers. Some of them going to social clubs and also know which lounges to hang around to meet the locals.

[WestCoast1]

True Pinay gals have no clue on time LOL however they do stay longer.

Vegas girls are all greedy bitches who care little about service unless you are dropping 500 or more and even than its iffy.

PC out.

Buddy of mine hits LV a lot. He met a girl there he wanted me to meet, about 8 months ago. Once we were in town, he took me to the nightclub to meet her. She's black, hot. He originally said she was mid 20's, and I thought hooker, as he's approaching 60. When we met in the dark club, I got close to her face as we departed and I said goodbye into her ear. A close look at the face, her mannerisms, led me to think she's in her mid-30's and appears younger from makeup and a toned body. I told him she's a hooker and he said he suspected. Once back at the hotel he was trying to entice her to come to his room. Finally she txt: "Make me an offer I can't refuse". We laughed. He splayed seven $100 bills on the bed and took a picture, then txt her the pic. She sent back: "Haha you want me to send my gramma to your hotel?" The place is out of control.

[Pcpc1688]

Me also beeing a veteran mongerer in LAS and mentioned place and nightclub, why not. I am not budget sensitive at all and enjoy Vegas more than phils actually. Dating here girls have more respect of time etc so they die to be on time. Sometimes me and friends have been to some underground clubs in LA and invited girls comming to our hub in Vegas and it has never failed (they come from all origins, asian, south american and native americans). Great fun.

True Pinay gals have no clue on time LOL however they do stay longer.

Vegas girls are all greedy bitches who care little about service unless you are dropping 500 or more and even than its iffy.

PC out.

[Member #4387]

I live in LA and am here quite abit when I'm not somewhere else haha. I also plan on being in Vegas at some point as well. Who knows maybe we can meet up at Hard Rock. Being a veteran in Vegas, the Phls is the place to monger, not Vegas in both selection and pricing. IMHO

PC out.

Me also beeing a veteran mongerer in LAS and mentioned place and nightclub, why not. I am not budget sensitive at all and enjoy Vegas more than phils actually. Dating here girls have more respect of time etc so they die to be on time. Sometimes me and friends have been to some underground clubs in LA and invited girls comming to our hub in Vegas and it has never failed (they come from all origins, asian, south american and native americans). Great fun.

[Pcpc1688]

Hehe 6 some would be a record as I so far did a so so 5 some (not fully). Even if I have made trips twice a month the last 3 months I don't know how my autumn will look like. I have to make my ms GF happy as well and she requires a real holiday at some point now (just me and her). I think LOS Angeles will be great as we both have friends there and some side trips on my behalf to LAS would be in order. I miss Hard Rock Hotels famous nightclub "Body English" - did have loads of fun there.

November will be, as you understand, to far away on my behalf to plan as I book my Manila trips when windows open (1-5 days ahead). But I am sure I will be here also at one point in November. Lets see.

Skoggy out.

I live in LA and am here quite abit when I'm not somewhere else haha. I also plan on being in Vegas at some point as well. Who knows maybe we can meet up at Hard Rock. Being a veteran in Vegas, the Phls is the place to monger, not Vegas in both selection and pricing. IMHO

PC out.

[Member #4387]

Already planning a possible early Nov trip back to Makati and then Cebu.

Skoggy, lets try to hook up and try out a 6-some LOL.

PC out.

Hehe 6 some would be a record as I so far did a so so 5 some (not fully). Even if I have made trips twice a month the last 3 months I don't know how my autumn will look like. I have to make my ms GF happy as well and she requires a real holiday at some point now (just me and her). I think LOS Angeles will be great as we both have friends there and some side trips on my behalf to LAS would be in order. I miss Hard Rock Hotels famous nightclub "Body English" - did have loads of fun there.

November will be, as you understand, to far away on my behalf to plan as I book my Manila trips when windows open (1-5 days ahead). But I am sure I will be here also at one point in November. Lets see.

Skoggy out.

[Member #4387]

Great summary Callsign of venues worth hitting up for those enjoying the clubbing scene. Valkyrie and Gramercy is now my prefered choices as I in so e ways have run tired from Prive. Some good choices and my last visit was there in May I think. I brought a girl so I did not screen the crowd closely except I saw some known faces and atleast one obvious workinggirl (atleast she was before called Katethegreat). Luckely or whatever you call it I did her many years ago before she became to proffesional. Still we nod eachother, hehe. Truth to be told she is probably more what you can call on the look for a sugardaddy these days.

Valkyrie and Gramercy is top notch to my likings. I did a Valkyrie pick up last month and here I haven't spotted girls labeled as workinggirls. Lines beeing blurred and all that taken into consideration. Great place and I will visit the pool club on a later occation. (thanks Huts for information). Just need a girl who I will be sure can take in the more Hi so vibe as a champ so I will look a bit into my fleet but I guess I have a few regulars who will fit right in (and maybe allready been there?

Gramercy have allways treated me kindly and loads of fun can be had there. You have obviously some working crowd going together in large groups. If you not into BG's be aware I have from good intel some can come from those bars and into mention place after been working for a while. If no success at Gramercy they can later be met at TIME. There are also many ordinary girls present here. How to screen them out I mostly use the my experience as working girls have their own way of "aggressivly" use their eyes looking for prey. Normal girls will be more shy.

The two mentioned clubs at City of Dreams I've only visited twice while staying at the hotel myself. Only brought one girl but before her I was quoted both 3 and 4 thousands from some obvious FL girls (1 in each place). The girl I finaly chose was from Pangaea. Yes many groups of friends there but still available girls in those groups for pick up. But not staying at one of the 3 hotels in City of Dreams I would not bother to visit them places.

All places mentioned have some sort of dress code. So shorts and flip flops seems not the way to go. Atleast I never saw someone in such wear and I never did myself so normal clothing and a jeans I guess is the way to go.

[CallSign Papa]

Concerning your two sexy friends from Chaos: did you shag them both (the drunk one in the morning)? Were your girls pros, semi pros, or amateurs. If professional, how much did you give the "very cute" girl? I understand City of Dream FL's ask between 5000 p and 8000 p.

Thanks Natty. The drunk girl really wasn't much to look at, and was doing her best to be a considerable cock-block, but things went my way luckily. The cute one, Shela, wasn't obviously P4 P, but if she was I'd've gladly paid. When she declined 1000 taxi money the next morning I was sure she'd be a keeper and have her on Facebook now so we'll meet up again next trip. I did eventually sneak the 1000 into her bag before she left. Don't feel too bad for her though, I picked up all the drinks in Chaos and food after, which probably came to 4 k in total.

I've not really seen any P4 P in Pangaea, but I'd guess you'd be about right for Chaos. Definitely 5 K+ in Gramercy. But some of them, damn, they'd be worth every peso.

[Pcpc1688]

Already planning a possible early Nov trip back to Makati and then Cebu.

Skoggy, lets try to hook up and try out a 6-some LOL.

PC out.

[Member #4387]

At the end of the day, you can do whatever you like. We just don't want to read that you took the nanny to the Hermes store in Greenbelt and bought her a Birkin bag because you felt sorry for her. LOL

Yes it boiles down to this as this is a choice me and the mother stand behind. Mother knows many thing about phils but are ofcourse influated by staying many many years abroad in the west and grew up in family with rather western mindset as well. She is not typical happy with many things going on in phils (payment beeing one of them, even if she earns quite a lot herself working in big corporation). Atleast we know we have a maid / nanny who will stay with us as long as we want and we have discussed many of the points marked out by you and others here but still landed on we want our daughter to have the best care possible. I am sure a nanny / maid comming cheaper would do just as a fine job. Our nanny has stayed with us long time allready and she is humble and knows she is lucky. She does not ask for anything but we are kind (maybe stupidly so be it).

As soon as I figure out how to do it, informing my GF back home and everything, this phil baby is out of phils and brought into Norway. This can ofcourse take sometime as I have no idea how I will break this "breaking news" to my norwegian GF (the extra daughter beeing a result of my cheating and everything). One day I will just come clear I guess.

Except from the nice pukies I despite many things here in phils and its only my daughter making me travel constantly back here. Situation beeing as it is I guess we could call it a win win situation, hehe. If I could I would kept my mongering to south america (Colombia and Venezuela where I have stayed a few years when I was younger).

Relax I will never take the maid to Hermes.

Skoggy out.

[Engine Driver]

20-30 k keeps them happy and she relates to my baby in the best ways in which are the most important thing to me and no money can never value this. I strongly want to adjust the viewers as I am only paying 50% of the maids / nanny costs. Ok, I admit I was the one pimping the sum up, and I related this to the cost of good nanny services in Norway and then deducted my initial ammount quite a bit, this beeing phils and all, but mother would pay her only 10 k and still, even if some here find that stupid high, this money are well spend. One of my best investments ever, even if it does not envolve cashflow the right direction (into my pockets).

Skogis, I always find your reports from Makati most entertaining and amusing. Your mongering life is what many of us aspire to if we had the time and opportunity. Well done Sir.

Having been an expatriate in Asia before, I know the mistake many people make is to apply Western values to Asian life. Good intentioned foreigners arrive each day with the mission of changing the social order. Skogis, you come from a country with many angry left-wing, socialist do-gooders just like me. Therefore, after years of social conditioning, it is natural to think people in Asia are being exploited, ripped off and poorly treated when compared to the working conditions in the home country. The best thing you can do is go with the established standards otherwise it disrupts too many lives. Overpaying your nanny five times the going rate is probably not going to guarantee a better level of service for your daughter, but I know that you can reconcile this because of that.

My guess is your babys mother is pocketing her half or getting back most of it in a kickback.

Skogis, this was also my first reaction. Given that your Phils baby's mama is an educated professional woman, I am surprised she is OK with you paying five times the normal amount. Surely she would know the problems of overpaying domestic staff.

I am not used to be referred to as the boss and I told her to just call me xxxx but then she started with the Sir crap. I told her to just use my name or "hey you". I like it informal and she seems to get it now.

This is not a good idea. People in Asia expect leadership from the employer and for the employer to be in control. By trying to treat domestic workers as your equal causes confusion and disrupts the established hierarchy. They will not be comfortable and you risk being thought of as a pushover. You can still be respectful and be in charge. In the military, the officer is addressed by the troops as "Sir". Why isn't everyone in the military equal? Because this would be chaotic and disruptive to enforcing discipline.

At the end of the day, you can do whatever you like. We just don't want to read that you took the nanny to the Hermes store in Greenbelt and bought her a Birkin bag because you felt sorry for her. LOL

[Member #4698]

Had a great weekend in Makati, checked out the following venues:

Pangaea / Chaos. Thursday night, mediumly busy, Pangaea because of the way it's set up is mostly big bunches of friends, but there were a few pairs of girls hanging by the bar, none of them obviously P4P, I met a petite little thing who was quite cute and had a mischievous glint in her eye, chatted for a while, bought her a drink and realised what a huge mistake I'd made. She was like velcro, permanently attached to me for 30 minutes. My spidey sense was tingling like crazy and I eventually went to the restroom and then quietly bailed and went to Chaos, which wasn't so busy. Met two girls at the bar, one very drunk, one very cute, we went to get something to eat at the cafe opposite and tried to sober her friend up. I was about to bail again (having sorted the bill) when the cute one suggested continuing the party at my condo which we did. The benefit of a two bedroom condo is that her friend could go pass out, which allowed the two of us to get properly acquainted in ways the bible does and does not approve of.

Another good field report CallSignPapa. I enjoy reading them.

Being a big fan of CJ's at the Mulia Hotel in Jakarta, I am looking forward to checking out Pangaea / Chaos at City of Dreams on my next trip. To that end I have split my upcoming Manila time in two parts, staying the first part in Makati at the Fairmont and then later staying on the bay at the Sofitel.

Concerning your two sexy friends from Chaos: did you shag them both (the drunk one in the morning)? Were your girls pros, semi pros, or amateurs. If professional, how much did you give the "very cute" girl? I understand City of Dream FL's ask between 5000 p and 8000 p.

[Member #4387]

Sounds like a nice time anyway. I had some sisters the early in my visit and it was all good.

PC out.

You are probably allready aware that the sis expression here in phils are quite blurred as this lesbo couple funny enough called themself sisters. Normaly close friends or just friends call themself sisters. Ofcourse also real sisters call themself the same.

Skoggy out.

[CallSign Papa]

Had a great weekend in Makati, checked out the following venues:

Pangaea / Chaos. Thursday night, mediumly busy, Pangaea because of the way it's set up is mostly big bunches of friends, but there were a few pairs of girls hanging by the bar, none of them obviously P4P, I met a petite little thing who was quite cute and had a mischievous glint in her eye, chatted for a while, bought her a drink and realised what a huge mistake I'd made. She was like velcro, permanently attached to me for 30 minutes. My spidey sense was tingling like crazy and I eventually went to the restroom and then quietly bailed and went to Chaos, which wasn't so busy. Met two girls at the bar, one very drunk, one very cute, we went to get something to eat at the cafe opposite and tried to sober her friend up. I was about to bail again (having sorted the bill) when the cute one suggested continuing the party at my condo which we did. The benefit of a two bedroom condo is that her friend could go pass out, which allowed the two of us to get properly acquainted in ways the bible does and does not approve of.

Heckle & Jeckle. Friday evening, headed here after work, it's at the back of Burgos on Felipe Street. It's a no-frills sports bar and on Friday evening is a mix of office girls blowing off steam and girls about to start shifts in the nearby bars. I have a crush on one of the barmaids who used to be a waitress at Hooters in Poblacion before its sad demise. J kept me company whilst I sank a few SMs Super Drys and even tried to facilitate a few introductions, but as this was the first of a few bars I planned on being in, I was happy just to be polite and friendly without taking any numbers.

Prive. Friday night, I'd been told by a colleague that since the new ownership about 5 months ago, Prive had become a magnet for P4P girls. Headed there for about 11 pm, to find the same old club with the same crowd. Luckily I liked it how it was but couldn't seem to find a girl who was struck my fancy (and could be separated from the herd). Prive is small venue but I've had some pretty good luck there in past times. I left about 2 am and called a girl I'd met on my last trip, she arrived at 3 am and jolly nice time was had by all.

Mulligans. Saturday afternoon, Howzat sports bar gets more attention but I have a soft spot for Mulligans on Kalayaan. It was dead quiet when I arrived at 3 pm, only the girls behind the bar and me. Luckily one of them was young and cute, but a little too green. Nevertheless a relaxing way to pass a few hours. I've been in on a Friday and Saturday night and the atmosphere is pretty good, plenty of P4P girls hanging out looking for an easy pick up.

Valkyrie. Goddamn I love this place. Not quite so keen on the Palace Pool Club, but Valkyrie is a target rich environment! I'd met a girl on Tinder who was bored and was planning on hanging out there saturday night, her photos looked pretty good, although of course, she was a little chubbier in real life, marginally hot though. We met outside and went in, which was the first time I've paid to get inside (1000, with two drinks). The place was packed, albeit quite a young crowd. We hung out with some of her friends and had a pretty good time. Then another of her friends showed up and I was immediately sure that I absolutely definitely had to bang her no matter what.

Being a sneaky little sod, I managed to pull off some impressive verbal gymnastics with the girl I'd arrived with (along the lines of "wow, I get a great best mate feeling with you") and was then able to take a crack at Ann. 31 years old, no kids, recently returned from Singapore, 5' 7", slim, with amazing albeit small cleavage. After a few round of tequila and some beers she mentioned she was going to Gramercy and invited me to tag along. In Gramercy we couldn't find her friends, they weren't answer their phones or had already left, so I suggested a final drink and then maybe a nightcap at my place just around the corner in Rockwell. As she lives in Alabang she seemed happy at the suggestion and it wasn't long before we were making out like teenagers on my sofa. When I finally got her out of the dress that had being driving me crazy since I first spied her I noticed two things, 1, the cleavage was all assisted and disappeared without a trace, but was forgive by the face that she had an ass I will remember on my death bed.

We ended up hanging out most of Sunday before I had to leave, with at least two journeys back to my condo so we could play hide the chorizo.

I think I'm probably the polar opposite to Skogis who is to be admired for the sheer volume of poontang he can nail. I'm more of a winer and and diner, bit of romance to add some heat to the naughty stuff. To each his own.

Couple of other points:

At the moment when it rains it RAINS. Usually late afternoon, sometimes for an hour, sometimes for a few, so be prepared.

Grabtaxi is a pretty good app in the Makati / Rockwell area and really comes into its own at Rush Hour.

Had a meeting at Resort World and thought I'd swing by where Republiq used to be. It's now a gastrobar called Universe, pretty bland, ok food. Not a worthy replacement for what went before, if you ask me.