Makati

[Bill Buxton]

BB, Thanks for all the good advice, but it seems you are mostly talking about bar girls. Maybe you could elaborate on your good and bad experiences with non-bar girls.

X

Please remember all the gals here look at us like ATM MACHINES WITH FEET thats a fact.Weather its at the mall,hotel,corner store.Yes the people here are not rich but we are all considered rich.The gals will all try to get your cash and some not at first.

Just be careful how you paint your picture and what you say to them.Any guy with a clean shave and some pera can get whatever gal that tickles his fancy here.Non bar gals are just as easy and will play games sometimes better than the barflys.

Are there some good ones here YES for sure,are there some shit gals here Yes is the answer to that.The problem is that anyperson getting a gal here does not know the past of the girl.She might have been the most naughty gal in a bar for a long time.She might be working a different job now and you or I hit the bait.Or she might have relathives that are helping or forceing her to monkey with us.You never know so keep your head up.

B.B.

[X Man]

BB, Thanks for all the good advice, but it seems you are mostly talking about bar girls. Maybe you could elaborate on your good and bad experiences with non-bar girls.

X

I see everyday smart guys doing STUPID things here because of little brown pussy so stay sharp.After all the fucking you are facing could be better that the fucking you will get in the end.I have seen it, lived it, and now wright about it here.

B.B...

[Bill Buxton]

Hey BB,

I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means. I only stated I spent about 100 nights at Mandarin--many more than that at other hotels and in condos. But, I probably won't be staying there much more since I'm buying a condo next month.

I'm also not thinking that I'm "all that" as you state. I'm merely stating that it is easy to get a GFE here if that's what you're after. You can treat them like crap and still have a GFE but it's much easier and to me, much more enjoyable when you treat them like a GF. It may be for just a few hours but it's a better experience IMHO.

My reply wasn't meant to elevate myself but instead say what you said: Anyone can get a girl without a problem--and it's not difficult. I've been telling one of my clients in the USA who is about 55 years old that he can go to PI and find a 18-25 year old girlfriend in a week at most. If he hadn't just started at this company, he'd probably go.

Cheers,

Sugoi

Guys I have spent more money here learning the deal and still fall in the shit over and over.I am sure I have spent the down payment on the farm down east already.But I only spend what I am prepared to loose.Thats life but,I try and clear up the visions seen here by most through the rose collored glasses.YES THER ARE GOOD GALS HERE AND I HAVE AND DO HAVE 2-3 SEE HOW I AM.The people here are good and yes they will try for cash if you get too close.Please stay arms length away and look before you jump into a shitstorm.

The gals have to do what they have to do with what they have.Thats pussy for sale or rent.I have never had a gal that treated me bad or on the other hand I treated bad.Even the shorttime scammers that want to jump on and off.Money talks and nobody walks.I do hate the bars and try and get a new gal to think about getting a better job if I get the chance to talk to her I tell here to get out of the bar.The bar is a one way street to shit IMHO and most hate what they do but have no choice.After all what guy would want a gal thats had 2-3-4-5hundred guys before him??? NOT YOURS TRUELY thats for sure.And please do not tell me that there are no girls that have had that many guys.If they have worked for several years in the bar you can bet that I am not to far off the mark.Some long time bar gals are like throwing a hotdog down a hallway when it comes to there pussy.

I bf'ed a gal last nite who for the only reason went with me, because she needed cash.Her mom is in jail I guess and she feels she needs to help as they all do.Many reasons many scamms but we all get better service and better quality from the gals here.Any of my friends back home would dump there wives if they spent a week here I am sure of that.The other thing is they would not want to stay here because of the money and inability to own things in there own names.This is the truth and the facts as I see them so do what you like.


I see everyday smart guys doing STUPID things here because of little brown pussy so stay sharp.After all the fucking you are facing could be better that the fucking you will get in the end.I have seen it, lived it, and now wright about it here.

B.B...

[Etami]

IT'S NICE TO SEE ANOTHER GUY LOOKING AT THINGS HERE WITH HIS EYES OPEN.There are so many fools here and yes I SAID FOOLS.Many guys have settled into life here and got not a thing to show for there efforts.Please let me finish,yes there are some that have taken great gals away from this place to good lives.And there are others that have been fleeced to the hilt.Come on think!!!! why would you buy anything here that you can not own in your name completly!! Why invest to make peso when you can make dollars ha?

ANULMENT,That was the first text of the day on my phone when I woke up today.The gal I am seeing wants me to pay 80,000 for the process.And then she said the husband will require a payoff to sign the paperwork.You have seen what I write, and herd what I say here, so let me ask you. Do you think BILLY BUXTON will fall and pay for todays scamm!! The answer is FUCK NO! FUCK NO!!!This text is just one of a million thought out scamms by profesional scammers here!The problem is many would and do fall in the trap,and while thinking with the LITTLE HEAD.NOBODY CAN EVER MAKE A GOOD DECISION WHILE A GAL HAS HER LIPS AROUND YOUR MEMBER,PLEASE REMEMBER THAT!!!

ASS OVER HEAD,or ass on the brain is not a good way to wonder through life.Am I guilty of this SURE dio I know I have made mistakes 100%SURE.Do I repete the mistakes I have made here,never!!

Guys never buy anything here and never get serious about anyone here unless you invest "TIME",a long time with the person.And then and only then will you have a 50/50 chance of sirvival.It's not just the gals scamming here it's everyone!It's a culture you will find hard to understand but they will FUCK THERE BEST LIFELONG FRENDS ALSO.There are no limits here on getting hosed so be aware of what's going on.They will smile at your face and [CodeWord140] in your pocket every time!

TAKE A REST AND GET SOME ASS AND PLAY THE GAME AND YOU WILL COME OUT ON TOP!

PEARLS FROM THE DESK OF; W.BUXTON...

B.B.,

I fully agree with you, but I honestly have to say that not all the filipina are like that.
For sure most of the girls working in bars are just trying to have a better life (wouldn't you do the same if you are in the same situation?), but there are a lot of nice and "normal" girls.

I go to the Phils for 10 days every 2 months, and I can tell you that I've met a lot of normal, who don't accept to spend a night in a nice hotel, even if they earn less than 100USD per month (all the ladies at the shopping malls earn less than that).

It's full of scams over there, but there are also normal and very nice people.

[Sugoi]

Ok lets break this shit down.Any girl I ever had will say and anygirl anywhere will say they want to be your gf here.Taking a girl here is not rocketscience guys.They all want cash and free pussy is not what it is at all.


Any guy that takes a gal from a bar that weares not to much make up is or has the best eyes I have ever heard of.The bars a re dim or ultra low in the light dept just for the smoke and mirrors effect.I have bf'd gals that when you get outside I thought to myself,is this the same gal or what?

You can get what ever or whoever you want is this place.

I went by a funeral home 3 weeks ago,and scored a gal from there greeving over an ex bf!Yes thats the truth!I talked to the gal and in 2 short days after she was less bareved she was sucking my cock.Gentlemen yes that is just how easy things are here.Send the body to manila for cremation and the widow is on the way to the next A.T.M.

Again 100 days here would not qualify you as an expert at the games here.

Please dont flatter yourself into thinking you are all that here.Any guy any where at any time can get what he wants no problem at all.

B.B...

Hey BB,

I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means. I only stated I spent about 100 nights at Mandarin--many more than that at other hotels and in condos. But, I probably won't be staying there much more since I'm buying a condo next month.

I'm also not thinking that I'm "all that" as you state. I'm merely stating that it is easy to get a GFE here if that's what you're after. You can treat them like crap and still have a GFE but it's much easier and to me, much more enjoyable when you treat them like a GF. It may be for just a few hours but it's a better experience IMHO.

My reply wasn't meant to elevate myself but instead say what you said: Anyone can get a girl without a problem--and it's not difficult. I've been telling one of my clients in the USA who is about 55 years old that he can go to PI and find a 18-25 year old girlfriend in a week at most. If he hadn't just started at this company, he'd probably go.

Cheers,

Sugoi

[Bill Buxton]

I agree BB. The girls always have a motive for dating us. Whether it's food, money, or just a hotel room with a hot shower and A/C. I pick up freebies all the time, but lets face it...nothing is ever free. A guy in a wheel chair could get fixed-up with a hottie in less then two hours in the Philippines. It's that damn simple. It's just purely economics and their way of surviving in a country that hardly takes care of its people.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

IT'S NICE TO SEE ANOTHER GUY LOOKING AT THINGS HERE WITH HIS EYES OPEN.There are so many fools here and yes I SAID FOOLS.Many guys have settled into life here and got not a thing to show for there efforts.Please let me finish,yes there are some that have taken great gals away from this place to good lives.And there are others that have been fleeced to the hilt.Come on think!!!! why would you buy anything here that you can not own in your name completly!! Why invest to make peso when you can make dollars ha?


ANULMENT,That was the first text of the day on my phone when I woke up today.The gal I am seeing wants me to pay 80,000 for the process.And then she said the husband will require a payoff to sign the paperwork.You have seen what I write, and herd what I say here, so let me ask you. Do you think BILLY BUXTON will fall and pay for todays scamm!! The answer is FUCK NO! FUCK NO!!!This text is just one of a million thought out scamms by profesional scammers here!The problem is many would and do fall in the trap,and while thinking with the LITTLE HEAD.NOBODY CAN EVER MAKE A GOOD DECISION WHILE A GAL HAS HER LIPS AROUND YOUR MEMBER,PLEASE REMEMBER THAT!!!

ASS OVER HEAD,or ass on the brain is not a good way to wonder through life.Am I guilty of this SURE dio I know I have made mistakes 100%SURE.Do I repete the mistakes I have made here,never!!

Guys never buy anything here and never get serious about anyone here unless you invest "TIME",a long time with the person.And then and only then will you have a 50/50 chance of sirvival.It's not just the gals scamming here it's everyone!It's a culture you will find hard to understand but they will FUCK THERE BEST LIFELONG FRENDS ALSO.There are no limits here on getting hosed so be aware of what's going on.They will smile at your face and [CodeWord140] in your pocket every time!

TAKE A REST AND GET SOME ASS AND PLAY THE GAME AND YOU WILL COME OUT ON TOP!


PEARLS FROM THE DESK OF; W.BUXTON...

[Yella Man]

I agree BB. The girls always have a motive for dating us. Whether it's food, money, or just a hotel room with a hot shower and A/C. I pick up freebies all the time, but lets face it...nothing is ever free. A guy in a wheel chair could get fixed-up with a hottie in less then two hours in the Philippines. It's that damn simple. It's just purely economics and their way of surviving in a country that hardly takes care of its people.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

[Bill Buxton]

I stay at the Mandarin all the time and have probably stayed there almost 100 nights over the last 2 years. I can tell you a lot about there and the area.

I know others may tell you to RTFF but I'll quickly answer some of the quesitons. Barfines just get the girl out. Usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because I've never barfined a girl.

For GFE, you can pick up freebies at bars and other places but it usually takes too much time with an unsure outcome. Girls at the bars on Burgos will give you a GFE and actually want to be your GF. Even ones at places like PDP or P1 will want to be your GF if you treat them right.

I prefer that route--I've had many girls at bars or other places who have wanted to come to my room and could have had many in a given day. Again, treat them right and they'll give you a great time--with true feelings.

I have only walked through LA Cafe once and I was not impressed at the quality. Again, I was only there for about 10 minutes but I wasn't impressed. I'd be concerned with the hygene of some of the girls there but was never concerned with the ones I've spoken with at other bars in Pasay, QC and Burgos. I don't pick the skanky or real wild ones and usually take the pretty ones with very little makeup who look innocent.

Usually they are less "used" and I feel that they are clean. I very rarely go BB and have only done so with 2 regulars and one other who told me she had never done it without a condom. Others may think I'm a fool but I believe her and I'm pretty sure that was the case.

I'll be back in a few weeks--looking forward to it...

Ok lets break this shit down.Any girl I ever had will say and anygirl anywhere will say they want to be your gf here.Taking a girl here is not rocketscience guys.They all want cash and free pussy is not what it is at all.


Any guy that takes a gal from a bar that weares not to much make up is or has the best eyes I have ever heard of.The bars a re dim or ultra low in the light dept just for the smoke and mirrors effect.I have bf'd gals that when you get outside I thought to myself,is this the same gal or what?

You can get what ever or whoever you want is this place.

I went by a funeral home 3 weeks ago,and scored a gal from there greeving over an ex bf!Yes thats the truth!I talked to the gal and in 2 short days after she was less bareved she was sucking my cock.Gentlemen yes that is just how easy things are here.Send the body to manila for cremation and the widow is on the way to the next A.T.M.

Again 100 days here would not qualify you as an expert at the games here.

Please dont flatter yourself into thinking you are all that here.Any guy any where at any time can get what he wants no problem at all.

B.B...

[Sniffer]

thanks, sugoi, for your advice and help, and for not telling me to rtff.

i did spend some time in reading the forum. but the info seems to be rep001tered around. and for some unknown reason, some links in the "report of distinction" section do not work.

i guess i may try the bars. but pdp looks pretty interesting too.

btw, may i also ask... i've heard that at one point in time, condoms are not widely available in the philippines. how's it like now? can you get them at places like convenient stores or 7-eleven? please forgive my ignorance...

thanks!

sniffer

i stay at the mandarin all the time and have probably stayed there almost 100 nights over the last 2 years. i can tell you a lot about there and the area.

i know others may tell you to rtff but i'll quickly answer some of the quesitons. barfines just get the girl out. usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because i've never barfined a girl.

for gfe, you can pick up freebies at bars and other places but it usually takes too much time with an unsure outcome. girls at the bars on burgos will give you a gfe and actually want to be your gf. even ones at places like pdp or p1 will want to be your gf if you treat them right.

i prefer that route--i've had many girls at bars or other places who have wanted to come to my room and could have had many in a given day. again, treat them right and they'll give you a great time--with true feelings.

i have only walked through la cafe once and i was not impressed at the quality. again, i was only there for about 10 minutes but i wasn't impressed. i'd be concerned with the hygene of some of the girls there but was never concerned with the ones i've spoken with at other bars in pasay, qc and burgos. i don't pick the skanky or real wild ones and usually take the pretty ones with very little makeup who look innocent.

usually they are less "used" and i feel that they are clean. i very rarely go bb and have only done so with 2 regulars and one other who told me she had never done it without a condom. others may think i'm a fool but i believe her and i'm pretty sure that was the case.

i'll be back in a few weeks--looking forward to it...

[Sugoi]

I stay at the Mandarin all the time and have probably stayed there almost 100 nights over the last 2 years. I can tell you a lot about there and the area.

I know others may tell you to RTFF but I'll quickly answer some of the quesitons. Barfines just get the girl out. Usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because I've never barfined a girl.

For GFE, you can pick up freebies at bars and other places but it usually takes too much time with an unsure outcome. Girls at the bars on Burgos will give you a GFE and actually want to be your GF. Even ones at places like PDP or P1 will want to be your GF if you treat them right.

I prefer that route--I've had many girls at bars or other places who have wanted to come to my room and could have had many in a given day. Again, treat them right and they'll give you a great time--with true feelings.

I have only walked through LA Cafe once and I was not impressed at the quality. Again, I was only there for about 10 minutes but I wasn't impressed. I'd be concerned with the hygene of some of the girls there but was never concerned with the ones I've spoken with at other bars in Pasay, QC and Burgos. I don't pick the skanky or real wild ones and usually take the pretty ones with very little makeup who look innocent.

Usually they are less "used" and I feel that they are clean. I very rarely go BB and have only done so with 2 regulars and one other who told me she had never done it without a condom. Others may think I'm a fool but I believe her and I'm pretty sure that was the case.

I'll be back in a few weeks--looking forward to it...

[Sniffer]

Dear all:

I'll be coming to Manila for a business trip next week and will be staying at the Mandarin Oriental. I'm completely new to Manila and have been doing most of my mongering in mainland China. So I would need some help and advice:

(a) It seems like most people are talking about activities in the bars. Would that be the best place to pick up a girl?

(b) What's the chance of picking up a non-pro or freebie girls from a bar?

(c) I think someone has asked this question earlier but I haven't seen an answer. Does the barfine just get the girl out of the bar? Or would it be inclusive of the time and service by the girl when she follows you back to the hotel?

(d) Are there any kind of places that are similar to the brothel or bath-houses in Bangkok? Any near the Mandarin Oriental?

(e) How's the overall hygene and health condition of the establishment and the girls in Manila? Would the girls insist on using condom? Or would they give in easily when the customers asked for bareback?

Thanks!

Sniffer

[Hobby Knob]

Hobby,

The Peninsula is a first class place, I stayed there on my last trip. The service is great and has a nice lobby. I was there before the recent renovations on one of the buildings and the rooms were basically average. That being said, a number of rooms have now been recently renovated so they should be better.

There is a little note in their in room pamphlet that says you can't bring guests in after 11pm, however I don't believe this is enforced at all and I never had a problem bringing girls back.

You would be an 10-15 min walk from Burgos, or a couple minute cab ride. You can also walk across the street to Greenbelt / Glorietta.

I am in the process of booking a trip to Makati and intend to stay at the Peninsula. If you don't mind me asking where did you get the deal for the Peninsula and how much?

Asiahotels.com has it for $107 a night.

When you gonna be there?

[Sugoi]

Got a good deal on the peninsula. Looks like a first class place. Is it girl friendly?

How does it compare to shangra-la edsa where I stayed last time. How far is it from there as well.

And while I'm at it, how far from L.A. cafe or Burgos Street?

Shangra-la was cool 'coz I could walk across the street to SM mall.

The Penn is practically across the street from the Makati Shangri-la but about 15-30 minutes away from the Edsa Shangri-la--depending on traffic.

[Weekender 123]

Hobby,

The Peninsula is a first class place, I stayed there on my last trip. The service is great and has a nice lobby. I was there before the recent renovations on one of the buildings and the rooms were basically average. That being said, a number of rooms have now been recently renovated so they should be better.

There is a little note in their in room pamphlet that says you can't bring guests in after 11pm, however I don't believe this is enforced at all and I never had a problem bringing girls back.

You would be an 10-15 min walk from Burgos, or a couple minute cab ride. You can also walk across the street to Greenbelt / Glorietta.

I am in the process of booking a trip to Makati and intend to stay at the Peninsula. If you don't mind me asking where did you get the deal for the Peninsula and how much?

[Hobby Knob]

Got a good deal on the peninsula. Looks like a first class place. Is it girl friendly?

How does it compare to shangra-la edsa where I stayed last time. How far is it from there as well.

And while I'm at it, how far from L.A. cafe or Burgos Street?

Shangra-la was cool 'coz I could walk across the street to SM mall.