Makati

[GDreams]

Hey, will be visiting Manila for 4 days on a work trip- staying at a good hotel in Makati.

Won't have too much time running around bars trying to find some good girls. Has anyone tried tinder / tan tan and other apps where I can just ask girls to come directly to my room?

Any lick on these apps?

I've recently had most success with Tan Tan. I use the free version where you can chat if you match. Be aware that ladyboys match with all guys so always ask if they are a girl.

[Aml3740]

Hey, will be visiting Manila for 4 days on a work trip- staying at a good hotel in Makati.

Won't have too much time running around bars trying to find some good girls. Has anyone tried tinder / tan tan and other apps where I can just ask girls to come directly to my room?

Any lick on these apps?

I just used Pinalove, free member. The keyword seems to put on your profile or put in message to girls that you're looking for fun. That is keyword that tends to be used. You should get plenty of semi-pros to pros that will jump out to come meet you. It isn't hard, even if you got no game.

[SexGuy2799]

Hey, will be visiting Manila for 4 days on a work trip- staying at a good hotel in Makati.

Won't have too much time running around bars trying to find some good girls. Has anyone tried tinder / tan tan and other apps where I can just ask girls to come directly to my room?

Any lick on these apps?

[WestCoast1]

Bars report. Bourbon is completely out of the chica business. It is a full-on live band resto / bar, same as Cubana Cafe. A marquee outside lists the bands for each night of the week. Clientelle is almost completely made up, at any given table, of 1 or more foreigners there with either his pinay asawa, or tonight's date (tinder, gogo girl, etc). I went in several times with a girl for food and drink, and only 1 time was there another customer there younger than me. Also I didn't hear any songs in Filipino. Bands were pretty good, its classic rock. The place is fairly full by 9 pm (its possible that the geriatric crowd must be in bed by 11 pm). Rum / coke was p380, beer 160.

Alibi (next door to the old Mixed Nuts, in the direction of the old Jools). Previously a gogo bar, was remodeled late last year. Where previously was a dancing stage with 3 stripper poles, the poles are gone and the stage houses disco and loudspeakers for live band. Several nights a week is live band, otherwise disco. I poked my head in most nights just to see what was happening. When the disco guy on stage was going great guns, there were no customers. When there was live band, there were either no customers, or 2-3 customers. I stopped in several times with a date or alone to listen to the band. Its classic rock, and when there are other customers there its mostly grey haired gringos. One evening there it appeared to be an older all-gringo band. The singer had a really good voice. He was joined on stage a bit later by another old gringo singer. They were very talented. Surprised its still in biz given the low number of customers. Beer p150 (+15 service charge = 165). Bottle water p100.

I forgot to mention Alley 8 hotel has a resto / bar next door. Think its called Vice (location Durban St corner Ebro St). Has live band nightly, booze and pulutans. Think my rum / coke was p150. The pic shows an old Google map pic from Covid times. The site has been under construction where the arrow is, and is clean and well-run.

Shooters restobar is back in biz. Its the resto at the base of Red Planet hotel in Makati. Some pics from the outside, including menu items. Still has pool tables.

[WestCoast1]

I told the manager he should start serving gumbo and fried oysters catfish the whole thing. He said they were looking into it. That place has potential to be a cool place to eat and bring chicks if they overhaul the menu and get rid of that disgusting Philippine food.

A little help. Which place were you referring to?

Bourbon New Orleans.

Yes, and no. Almost all of the foreigners there are white, and they are rarely without their asawa. Keeping some pinoy foods on the menu, especially pulutans (snacks, or smaller-portion standard foods like sisig, chicken skin, french fries) for the pinoy segment. But yes, beefing up the western items might be a great idea (especially seafood). Why not? Cubana cafe has a large eclectic menu.

[Detwing1]

I've left a bar with girl (s) many times without discussing prices. There are a few prerequisites:


P.S. For clarity, if we are confining the discussion only to Burgos, I don't think I've ever left there without clarifying expectations. If I lived in town, the above would still hold.

G.

Almost every girl I've picked up online there was like that. Never an upfront negotiation over pricing, but always willing to accept "taxi" money, which I always give.

[Goferring]

Sorry SL I didn't reply to this sooner. The idea that the girl will discuss with you later in the room her fee is novel to me. However there is nothing wrong with that. I also imagine that girls who are new to the bar might also feel shy to discuss this in the bar (at first). Other gents weigh in. Glad it worked well for you.

I've left a bar with girl (s) many times without discussing prices. There are a few prerequisites:

1/. My face is known in the bar.

2/. Occasionally, my target will ask other girls, who I have taken before, for a reference check.

3/. I don't speak tagalog nor bisaya but elsewhere, I can use the local language so as soon as I open my mouth it's clear that I've played the game before.

4/. In the bar, I'm not afraid to spend a few bucks to have a good time. Again, it's obvious that I know the game and am not going to suddenly expect her to be a freebie.

This also applies online where many girls don't want to be labelled but won't refuse a "gift" when leaving.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. For clarity, if we are confining the discussion only to Burgos, I don't think I've ever left there without clarifying expectations. If I lived in town, the above would still hold.

G.

[TjBrazil]

A little help. Which place were you referring to?

Bourbon New Orleans.

[WestCoast1]

I told the manager he should start serving gumbo and fried oysters catfish the whole thing. He said they were looking into it. That place has pontetial to be a cool place to eat and bring chicks if they overhaul the menu and get rid of that disgusting Philippine food.

A little help. Which place were you referring to?

[WestCoast1]

You must have had too many rums and cokes Westy. The most famous two name bar on Burgos is 'Plan be & Kojax'. Like they couldn't decide which famous prepandemic bar to names themselves after, so they took two.

I may have given away my secrets. Like what kind of drinks I like. Or girls I like. Thinking-while-drinking is not my strong point.

[TjBrazil]

Burgos report. Spent 3 weeks there recently, prior to the blessed Christmas. As we got to the 5-6 days prior to noche buena (NB), things thinned out. Traffic got lighter all-around, foot traffic on Burgos (customers) thinned out, and gogo girl numbers started to slowly drop (from the normal 100%, down to about 60% on NB). I only hit a few bars for a drink or two for perving purposes. Most nights I didn't hit the bars, and on nights where I did go hopping, it was 2 drinks in one bar, or 1-2 drink each two bars (an hour and out).

Street action. Moving towards NB, the number of girls of all looks (hot-to-not), ages, skank rating (to include tatoos and missing teeth), and bakla increased nightly. The night before NB is typically one of the largest numbers of girls, while typically the smallest number of fellas. The desperation increased, and while I didn't get an initial-price drop, I quickly got counter-offers of big price drops. For instance if a girl said p3000 initially, and I countered with 1000, she'd counter with 1500 (skipping 2500 and 2000). It was easy pickin's at the time.

Bars report. Bourbon is completely out of the chica business. It is a full-on live band resto / bar, same as Cubana Cafe. A marquee outside lists the bands for each night of the week. Clientelle is almost completely made up, at any given table, of 1 or more foreigners there with either his pinay asawa, or tonight's date (tinder, gogo girl, etc). I went in several times with a girl for food and drink, and only 1 time was there another customer there younger than me. Also I didn't hear any songs in Filipino. Bands were pretty good, its classic rock. The place is fairly full by 9 pm (its possible that the geriatric crowd must be in bed by 11 pm). Rum / coke was p380, beer 160..

I told the manager he should start serving gumbo and fried oysters catfish the whole thing. He said they were looking into it. That place has potential to be a cool place to eat and bring chicks if they overhaul the menu and get rid of that disgusting Philippine food.

[Muttley81]

Par Avion / Nautica. The only bar with 2 names, and nobody working there can explain why. 14 girls, 22 girls, and about 20 girls another night (different nights). On the night with 14 girls, there were 10 spinners and 4 chubs. Only 1 chub was booby, the other 3 were flatties with junk in all the other wrong places. Of the spinners, all were flatties with tight flat tummies and good asses. All were aged 30 or less and I would have done any of the spinners. P350 for rum / coke, p160 for beer.

My understanding of it is that Nautika is on ground floor, Lollipop on 1st floor and Par Avion on 2nd floor. Not sure how they are interlinked, but you can definitely take girls from Nautika to Lollipop if you want to. Only been in Par Avion once, it was not a Gogo.

You must have had too many rums and cokes Westy. The most famous two name bar on Burgos is 'Plan be & Kojax'. Like they couldn't decide which famous prepandemic bar to names themselves after, so they took two.

[WestCoast1]

She took her time on the LD and I tried to not go to quick on mine either. Just as she finishes her drink I was about to suggest to get out of there. Waitress lady comes over for a fill-up but immediately said I wanted to get out of there to prevent an extra LD on the tab. She sits down, explains the barine is 2. 8 k. What! Only 2. 8 k? I had totally expected like 3. 5 k or upwards. But fine that was all good. But so I look at my lady and ask her, what do you want (charge)? And she laughs well giggles and then says. "we talk later in the room, I go with you ok".

Later. In the room, she quite quickly starts with her hands moving around like she wanted to start things off, so me being polite remind her that we need to discuss her price. She says, you pay what you think is right. Ehhhh ok? So I joke, so for free? Haha she didn't deny but I didn't let her because depending on service of course I was intending to pay her anyways.

Sorry SL I didn't reply to this sooner. The idea that the girl will discuss with you later in the room her fee is novel to me. However there is nothing wrong with that. I also imagine that girls who are new to the bar might also feel shy to discuss this in the bar (at first). Other gents weigh in. Glad it worked well for you.

[WestCoast1]

Burgos report. Spent 3 weeks there recently, prior to the blessed Christmas. As we got to the 5-6 days prior to noche buena (NB), things thinned out. Traffic got lighter all-around, foot traffic on Burgos (customers) thinned out, and gogo girl numbers started to slowly drop (from the normal 100%, down to about 60% on NB). I only hit a few bars for a drink or two for perving purposes. Most nights I didn't hit the bars, and on nights where I did go hopping, it was 2 drinks in one bar, or 1-2 drink each two bars (an hour and out).

Street action. Moving towards NB, the number of girls of all looks (hot-to-not), ages, skank rating (to include tatoos and missing teeth), and bakla increased nightly. The night before NB is typically one of the largest numbers of girls, while typically the smallest number of fellas. The desperation increased, and while I didn't get an initial-price drop, I quickly got counter-offers of big price drops. For instance if a girl said p3000 initially, and I countered with 1000, she'd counter with 1500 (skipping 2500 and 2000). It was easy pickin's at the time.

Bars report. Bourbon is completely out of the chica business. It is a full-on live band resto / bar, same as Cubana Cafe. A marquee outside lists the bands for each night of the week. Clientelle is almost completely made up, at any given table, of 1 or more foreigners there with either his pinay asawa, or tonight's date (tinder, gogo girl, etc). I went in several times with a girl for food and drink, and only 1 time was there another customer there younger than me. Also I didn't hear any songs in Filipino. Bands were pretty good, its classic rock. The place is fairly full by 9 pm (its possible that the geriatric crowd must be in bed by 11 pm). Rum / coke was p380, beer 160.

Alibi (next door to the old Mixed Nuts, in the direction of the old Jools). Previously a gogo bar, was remodeled late last year. Where previously was a dancing stage with 3 stripper poles, the poles are gone and the stage houses disco and loudspeakers for live band. Several nights a week is live band, otherwise disco. I poked my head in most nights just to see what was happening. When the disco guy on stage was going great guns, there were no customers. When there was live band, there were either no customers, or 2-3 customers. I stopped in several times with a date or alone to listen to the band. Its classic rock, and when there are other customers there its mostly grey haired gringos. One evening there it appered to be an older all-gringo band. The singer had a really good voice. He was joined on stage a bit later by another old gringo singer. They were very talented. Surprised its still in biz given the low number of customers. Beer p150 (+15 service charge = 165). Bottle water p100.

Par Avion / Nautica. The only bar with 2 names, and nobody working there can explain why. 14 girls, 22 girls, and about 20 girls another night (different nights). On the night with 14 girls, there were 10 spinners and 4 chubs. Only 1 chub was booby, the other 3 were flatties with junk in all the other wrong places. Of the spinners, all were flatties with tight flat tummies and good asses. All were aged 30 or less and I would have done any of the spinners. P350 for rum / coke, p160 for beer.

Champaigne bar. New bar / old bar. It replaces the defunct Amore bar on Ebro St. It is just 30 meters away from both Lokal hostel and Alley 8 on Ebro. It is directly behind Fyre bar on Burgos. The old Amore was Japanese owned / themed, with a p7000 barfine and rarely saw any girls dancing on stage (or in bikinis, GRO were often fully clothed). The new Champaigne has the same layout inside, but on stage now are more GRO dancers in bikinis and skin-showing outfits. Barfine p3900. Beer p160. The gogo dancers were a complete range of chub to hot.

V8, only 1 visit. 17 girls, 6 of them on stage (the rest: a few with customers for LD, the rest congregated in front of the stage area sitting around). Good atmosphere. Of the 15 girls, 13 were yes girls for me. The remaining two gals had good bods, but something about their faces said NO. Its a butt-load of great asses. P380 for rum / coke.

[Rprogta]

Then the next day I couldn't resist myself and order a Nuru. The girls on there looked so good I just had to try. I realized and expected that there would be extra pricing (tip) on top. Welll. There was 0 massage, she wouldn't even know what to do I think. She was exactly like the pictures however, very very pretty little thing. But pricing was 5 k HJ, 10 k BJ and 20 k all the-way. Ye so emm no, sorry that is just insane. So I lost on this one, strongly advice against this service.

Damn, thanks for the report. I'm staying in Makati for my first time in Ph during Feb. I've only hobbied in Europe before and I do love an erotic massage (Prague is king for this). I've also been searching for a proper Nuru massage with the gel instead of the oil. I think I've been looking at the same website as you and was hoping to try them out. Sucks if it's just an escort agency in disguise. Need to find a proper massage outcall / Incall or I'll need to go to Japan one day.

Out of curiosity, which masseuse did you pick? Did you do anything with her or just send her packing with nothing?