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[Sharka]

She said since I paid, I should receive the service. So I said why not. And really it was great session.

Got to hand this one to you as I don't know if I could even get a hardon after all that shit. Main thing being I would have absolutely NO trust in the girl or her roommates at that point. My thoughts would've been to get the hell out ASAP as she could be setting me up for something else (like secretly recording everything), like having you do shit and having evidence saying you assaulted her etc. Don't even know if she recorded you pulling her hair- could already claim abuse with that. Then demand more money to keep things quiet. Remember that once she reports it, then the police will have to investigate it as a crime and could hold you in jail for awhile even if you are innocent. Also may require you to waste more money hiring a lawyer to sort shit out. She already showed her deceit and being a scammer so there's no longer any trust. I would've just said FK it, lesson learned and gotten out fast.

But lucky, things worked out best for you. But just saying it could easily have gone sour quickly.

Best to stay safe and on the side of caution.

Cheers.

[Free2]

I just remembered a short story, to never underestimate the street savvy / thievery of these girls.

Once in Manila, near Malate (my hotel was near Timog so too far for a quicky), I took a girl to SOGO (the smell of bleach! Yikes) for a short time. I think I picked her up at Harrison Plaza. I never leave my clothes unattended when a girl is in my room. The SOGO rooms are super small. After the deed, I got up to wash up. Girl remained on the bed. As I turned the corner (out of sight of my pants / wallet in pocket), I remembered my cardinal rule. So I turned back and the girl was jumping down to rifle through my pockets. I challenged her and started getting mad but when SHE threatened to call security (I remembered the best way out of this is to just be calm and let it go. Obviously she never got an extra peso over what was agreed upon.

Another time in Cuba, my buddy took a girl back from the dance club. He was hammered and fell asleep after the deed. Stupidest thing to do, ever. The girl left who knows when. In Cuba, back then anyways, the safes are just the card type. The next day at breakfast, he told me his $700 from the safe was gone and I had to pay for whatever else he needed for the rest of the trip. Some guys are so dumb. Don't be one!

[Free2]

Years ago when Obama went to Columbia and his Secret Service team members got into trouble with some local bar workers by trying to be "big shots" and not paying and basically going with the "do you know who I am and what I do" I mentioned to someone those guys were dangerous and played it all wrong. Some may not agree with my approach, but my philosophy is if I'm doing wrong, then even when I'm right I take the loss. Better to pay for substandard service and get them out of your room than to be demanding, obstinate and wind up being on the front page of the news with pictures of you and your wife trying to explain it was a "mistake. " Eat the costs and move on. There's always another train coming, even if you have to wait until the next day when they start running again.

Agree 100%. I chalk things like mini scams, runners, etc as the cost of doing business. I try to learn the lesson if there is one to learn and move on. If the overall cost of the monger trip is a couple of hundred dollars more, so be it. I want to be able to walk around the streets of any Phil city and not have to look over my shoulder or ever fear that some lunatic pinoys (brothers, uncles, friends of the girl) will stab me in the back. Because that's how pinoys operate. Stab you in the back 50 times.

[Drbombay]

Yup, have to agree as my post below basically said the same thing that it comes with being a monger. Only way to avoid all these precautions and drama is to give up mongering and meeting strange and unknown girls. But then, which one of us on this forum wants something as boring as that.

Cheers.

Years ago when Obama went to Columbia and his Secret Service team members got into trouble with some local bar workers by trying to be "big shots" and not paying and basically going with the "do you know who I am and what I do" I mentioned to someone those guys were dangerous and played it all wrong. Some may not agree with my approach, but my philosophy is if I'm doing wrong, then even when I'm right I take the loss. Better to pay for substandard service and get them out of your room than to be demanding, obstinate and wind up being on the front page of the news with pictures of you and your wife trying to explain it was a "mistake. " Eat the costs and move on. There's always another train coming, even if you have to wait until the next day when they start running again.

[BoomerFun]

Yup, have to agree as my post below basically said the same thing that it comes with being a monger. Only way to avoid all these precautions and drama is to give up mongering and meeting strange and unknown girls. But then, which one of us on this forum wants something as boring as that.

Cheers.

Around 2014 I was in Dubai. At that time Who is here app was famous. I checked out many girls and found a stunning one. White and amazing body. So, we agreed to meet at her hotel room. I went there and she opened the door, the light was low. I did a mistake and got in. Then I found out that she is black around 6/10. She locked the doors. I told her that this is a trap and I will never pay. She said you have too, you already in my room. I was so angry that I grabbed her hair and forcefully asked her to open. Then 2 girls came out of the toilet and started hitting me. One of them wanted to call the receptionist. I told them it is not good for me or them to call anybody. The exact amount was already in one of my pockets and I gave it to her and asked her to open the door. She said since I paid, I should receive the service. So I said why not. And really it was great session.

[Sharka]

Sometimes in spite of being careful things happen. That is life and blame it on our mongering lifestyle risks.

Yup, have to agree as my post below basically said the same thing that it comes with being a monger. Only way to avoid all these precautions and drama is to give up mongering and meeting strange and unknown girls. But then, which one of us on this forum wants something as boring as that.

Cheers.

[Sammon]

I've had my share of runners too. Interestingly all barfines. Never online hookups. Being fully prepaid ala AC also skews the bell curve considerably.

I too have never had any age or extortion related issues. I had my wallet emptied once in Jakarta after I fell asleep, my ipad stolen in MNL, and a chick threaten to call the cops when I refused to pay her for undelivered services. The first two were my fault anyway for not following the most basic of security precautions and the third ended when she realised what my work was and my contacts were many levels higher than hers.

Not too bad for several decades of fun in some pretty interesting places 😉.

There are certain rules to follow to avoid nasty surprises.

1. Do not underestimate the intelligence of the girl in spite of sweet outward appearance and demeanor.

2. Never take for granted you have the upper hand thinking it is basically a business transaction where you are the one paying.

3. Always lock up all valuables in the safe. Only take some local money for expenses. Even then one Sweet Chinese girl who stayed with me 3 fun filled days messed up safe deposit box trying to open it by meddling to find the combination when I went to buy food. And another time Philippine girl took 1000 pesos from my pocket when I took shower.

4. As above do not trust anybody in your room.

5. Money wise I am beyond counting pennies. I am more than generous giving more than agreed amount. I know I get flamed for this but it is my money. Only time I stick to agreed amount is if the service is bad or the girl is nasty. Having said this a Colombian girl would not accept more than the agreed amount. There are couple of times when I failed to perform because of jet lag, drunk, did not feel attracted etc I still paid them the money.

6. Never had anybody threaten to call police. Maybe I am lucky.

7. A Dominican girl stole my cheap travel phone. That is my fault because I did not check before the security allowed her to leave.

Sometimes in spite of being careful things happen. That is life and blame it on our mongering lifestyle risks.

[BrizLad]

fall out with business partners do however have a high propensity for arrests and drug busts.
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I would like my former business partners to experience some of the PNP hospitality.

[Goferring]

Knock on wood!

Never had any sort of problems with any girl anywhere in the world about age issues or money issues. Yes, I have had runners with one excuse or another.

I've had my share of runners too. Interestingly all barfines. Never online hookups. Being fully prepaid ala AC also skews the bell curve considerably.

I too have never had any age or extortion related issues. I had my wallet emptied once in Jakarta after I fell asleep, my ipad stolen in MNL, and a chick threaten to call the cops when I refused to pay her for undelivered services. The first two were my fault anyway for not following the most basic of security precautions and the third ended when she realised what my work was and my contacts were many levels higher than hers.

Not too bad for several decades of fun in some pretty interesting places 😉.

[Sharka]

Knock on wood!

Never had any sort of problems with any girl anywhere in the world about age issues or money issues. Yes, I have had runners with one excuse or another.

Classic one which beats others is a time in Phnom Penh. Barfined from a bar. Very clingy and girlfriendly for a few hours. Even went dancing.

She even pretended to sleep after the deed. Suddenly got up after an hour and went to the rest room. Came back with a Oscar winning performance feigning stomach ache. I let her go with some extra money for medicine. I got so worried next evening and went back to the same bar. She was there totally healthy.

Backtrack little. Before I barfined this girl who could not speak good English there was a girl who I wanted to barfine who spoke English. She said she on the period and could not go with or she did not like me. This girl asked the girl I barfined if she wanted to go with me.

So the next night I told the English speaking girl about what happened. She said the girl came back to the bar after leaving me and she was not sick at all.

No need to go so far to find these type of girls.

I had one exactly as you described with the same stomach problems. This was suppose to be LT and after one bang, she fell asleep and woke up 15 min later with extreme stomach pains. Totally convincing even with sweat from her face!!

Let her go to get better as she was useless to me for the rest of the night.

Went back to same bar next evening and another girl came to me and told me the girl I BF said I was unfair to her so she left me to return bar to be taken out on another BF.

This was in Angeles.

[Sammon]

Have security ever refused entry or warned you off a girl?

Knock on wood!

Never had any sort of problems with any girl anywhere in the world about age issues or money issues. Yes, I have had runners with one excuse or another.

Classic one which beats others is a time in Phnom Penh. Barfined from a bar. Very clingy and girlfriendly for a few hours. Even went dancing.

She even pretended to sleep after the deed. Suddenly got up after an hour and went to the rest room. Came back with a Oscar winning performance feigning stomach ache. I let her go with some extra money for medicine. I got so worried next evening and went back to the same bar. She was there totally healthy.

Backtrack little. Before I barfined this girl who could not speak good English there was a girl who I wanted to barfine who spoke English. She said she on the period and could not go with or she did not like me. This girl asked the girl I barfined if she wanted to go with me.

So the next night I told the English speaking girl about what happened. She said the girl came back to the bar after leaving me and she was not sick at all.

[Goferring]

This is why I always stay in a nice hotel with security. Yes, I have taken street girls. Security and front desk always check I. The and ask few questions in Tagalog. I heard eleven after all this people got into trouble. But generally those are solved right there with hotel negotiations.

Have security ever refused entry or warned you off a girl?

[Sammon]

Although these are rare incidents, they do happen and just don't know who it can happen to. Like my post said, my friend did check ID and also no way in hell she was underage or even looked liked a young girl. And also, he was living in a rental and not hotel.

If someone wanted to set up a monger then its sometimes difficult to avoid it. Yes, getting a girl from a bar lowers the chances but its still not zero. Remembering how some underage girls were still caught in the past working at bars with somewhat professional or altered IDs that said they were over 18. Get caught with one of those in your room and its still up shits creek for the monger having taken all the precautions. Just another thing us mongers have to deal with that no normal person has to. It goes with our lifestyle.

Cheers.

This is why I always stay in a nice hotel with security. Yes, I have taken street girls. Security and front desk always check I. The and ask few questions in Tagalog. I heard eleven after all this people got into trouble. But generally those are solved right there with hotel negotiations.

[Sharka]

Although this may be true, I've been to AC 7 times and have never had this happen to me or to others around me. If you are worried, get girls in the bars vs streetwalkers as the girls will be over 18, or just don't go with girls who look really young. A lot of hotels have a policy of checking girls ID anyway and they would see if its fake, and although this seems like a pain it might just save your ass. The hotels don't want trouble in their hotel basically.

Although these are rare incidents, they do happen and just don't know who it can happen to. Like my post said, my friend did check ID and also no way in hell she was underage or even looked liked a young girl. And also, he was living in a rental and not hotel.

If someone wanted to set up a monger then its sometimes difficult to avoid it. Yes, getting a girl from a bar lowers the chances but its still not zero. Remembering how some underage girls were still caught in the past working at bars with somewhat professional or altered IDs that said they were over 18. Get caught with one of those in your room and its still up shits creek for the monger having taken all the precautions. Just another thing us mongers have to deal with that no normal person has to. It goes with our lifestyle.

Cheers.

[Goferring]

Although this may be true, I've been to AC 7 times and have never had this happen to me or to others around me. If you are worried, get girls in the bars vs streetwalkers as the girls will be over 18, or just don't go with girls who look really young. A lot of hotels have a policy of checking girls ID anyway and they would see if its fake, and although this seems like a pain it might just save your ass. The hotels don't want trouble in their hotel basically.

While there are a million stories, it's exceedingly rare for the truly blameless to be involved in an elaborate sting. There is always a backstory. Those that are abusive, idiots or fall out with business partners do however have a high propensity for arrests and drug busts.

The solution is simple: don't do anything stupid and fly below the radar.

Enjoy. G.