Makati

[Banana Boi]

@FG Yes it's a terrible video. I didn't mean for people to watch the video but found the link because WC asked for it. I don't even know how I managed to watch the entire 5 minutes other than shaking my head and thinking this is a train wreck. Thanks for the vlogger links. Yes it's an AI voice. New video editing programs provide you with AI voice options to read whatever text you type.

@WC Thanks for the time and effort in your post. You answered my main question that there are indeed bars (or main floor of bar) that have girls who don't do FS. Thanks even more for naming the bars. A forgotten art form especially in the Thailand threads. Now I know that I have to ask up front with every girl if they do FS before I spend a cent on any drink for them. Then again, some nights I may have other plans and just want to kill an hour with DFK and mutual groping. As for Chet, with the AI voice Chet may in fact be a 60 year old grandma.

[FuriousGeorge]

As usual WC, you are 100 percent correct. I watched the video and immediately noticed that it was an AI voice and additionally the content was a waste of my time. That being said. I do enjoy watching certain vloggers. Those of us that are tied down to a job in a faraway land, who have a few drinks in the evening, enjoy watching the escapades and day-to-day life of the expat who lives there. Here are the only few I find of value:

Makati:

At itsManilaBaybee.

This guy shows you the Makati / BGC party lifestyle in all its glory. Probably how I'd live my life if / when I retire there. Although I'm heading back at 2 am for sex and sleep. This dude and his girls stay out until the sun comes up.

AC:

At itsmylife_ph.

This Russian dude can barely speak English and is wife is maybe the skinniest chick ever (would do her in a heartbeat). And he's not afraid to film walking street at night (YouTube won't let you monetize that). His videos will give you a very clear idea of what to expect if you visit AC.

At chubsDubC.

This guy is genuinely a fairly smart cool dude who went there on a whim and found a girlfriend who also seems way smarter and down to earth than your average AC bargirl. He does a variety of content which I do enjoy watching.

At PhillyinthePhilippines.

Yes I still watch him, but he's not particularly bright and his videos are often boring but it helps fill out the flavor of AC.

At acebachelorcool9585.

This guy is an absolute simpleton, but will often film inside the gogo bars, which I always find fun. Brings back memories.

[WestCoast1]

I can't believe I found it again. Don't know this creator but it's a story of a first timer going to a Burgos gogo bar. You can start at 2:35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeIjR5af9_A.

I said that I'd return to this topic, and here we are. These youtube vloggers. I have many thoughts. I rarely watch them (as I live here, and don't need advice, kinda seem to have something on the order of a well-oiled machine, much as described by FG recently in his description of his upcoming retirement plan). Usually when I do watch them, is when someone on the Board here brings the receipts and shows a link, or mentions a vlogger by username and I check it out.

Regarding this particular video, and the vlogger's account on YT: Chet's Stories (330 subscribers). Its a 5-minute vid (thank God, most of these vids are 10-25 minutes). In this particular case, the story on this video is about a newb American who comes to Phils, meets Chet by chance in a mall, asks Chet for help as the newb seems completely helpless, Chet condescendingly takes the newb under his wing for a night to help him out and show him the way, shows the newb around P Burgos, then in reality does NOT help the newb much, leaves the newb to the Burgos gogo bar girl sharks, and the newb gets ripped off for hundreds of $ (because Chet was not there to save the newb -- because Chet ran off and left the Newb with the gogo sharks after leading the newb to the gogo sharks).

Worse, just 30 seconds into this video I realized that something is off about this. The vid does not pass the sniff test. First clue: Chet's voice is not a real person, its an AI voice (there is captioning on the bottom of the screen, and some of the words are phonetically mis-spelled). Someone correct me if I am wrong. In fact, upon checking, other of Chet's videos are the same AI voice. The voice is translated from a typed script (which Chet provides, see below). The video is not Chet walking around with a cam on a selfie stick, chatting folk on the street. There is no street audio. The vid is someone walking Burgos with a camera, the cam audio has been completely muted, and the AI voice simply talks the entire time. We don't get to see Chet, nor the newb (Tommie, who, I believe, might not exist).

Second, the story seems to be contrived. I believe it an amalgam of every newb mistake ever made. The newb seems to have not bothered to read anything on the Internet about Phils, falls out of the "Newb-Idiot" tree, and hits every branch on the way down. He couldn't have been any dumber. There's even a bit in the video of Chet showing the newb to a Burgos bar where, downstairs, the girls are not GRO; they are sweet, and shower Chet and the newb with nothing but love. Then the newb decides to go upstairs to the GRO place, and Chet warns him of the dangers of the gogo bar girls. The newb goes upstairs to the GRO, and Chet leaves the newb to his own devices. The newb gets ripped off for hundreds of dollars (buying rounds of drinks for 10 GRO at a time). I ask: Where on Burgos is such an upstairs / downstairs place, with nice non-gogo ladies downstairs, and with gogo girls upstairs? The only upstairs places with GRO are Lollipop (downstairs is Nautica, with GRO) and Lips (downstairs are also GRO), and Blue Parrot has GRO upstairs and down.

While the basic storyline of newbs make mistakes (just look at my mistakes) is true, few people are as uninformed when they arrive as the newb described in this vid. Chet seems too altruistic and helpful. The voice is fake. The story is from a script (the script is literally pasted under the video on YT). But, feel free to watch it for yourself, and then share and tell me that I missed it completely.

I mention this because newbs watch these videos before they come, as they are hungry for local info on getting laid. If they believe vids like this, its easy to get scared off from Burgos or get the wrong impression of gogo bars. It gives the impression that you need to see this kind of video (and maybe others from Chet) in order to survive, when in fact this is not helpful. I plan to summarize and show some hypocrisy from some of these vloggers soon. Other's opinions on these kinds of vids are invited.

Here is a portion of the scripted story:

Tommy was recently retired, had stockpiled a bunch of cash and was considering the Philippines as a place to live. Of course, he wanted to meet girls. "You could swing a cat and hit an available girl here," I said. We talked for a couple of hours and quickly became friends.

"I heard P. Burgos street is the place to go," he said.

"Well, it is in fact, a place to go," I said. "I guess it depends on what kind of experience you're looking for. There's a certain type available there. ".

"I'm interested in all of the experiences," he said.

"Ok, Tommy. I'll meet you there and at least show you what to avoid. "

We met up for dinner in the barbecue place which was perfect since Tommy was eating a carnivore diet. I cant imagine a worse diet in the Philippines than carnivore but hey, not my body. A slab of ribs, a plate of pulled pork and some sausages satisfied the big man.

Wow. Check out that one, he said, pointing a greasy sausage finger towards the street.

Thats a ladyboy, I said.

How do you know that?

Too tall. Look at the hands bro. Check out those feet. Thats a dude, my man.

Damn, I wouldnt have spotted that.

You would have realized eventually. If you get close enough you might notice five oclock shadow, an Adams apple, andhello, I said in my deepest possible voice.

Good thing I met you Chet, you might have spared me from a big surprise, he said.

[WestCoast1]

For reference, this is Oculto bar from the outside. This is the old Lion's Pride and previously before Covid was WowWow bar, just across from the old Jool's. The neon-colored paint is outside and inside, and the same neon colors outside of Fyre bar (same owner).

[Goferring]

Lips was awful.

I loved the inside of blue parrot but the girls just weren't attractive.

Neon nights had a lot of girls dancing on the floor but there wasn't anything I liked.

I liked the setup of NN. It was like a real small dance club with tons of girls with no sex appeal.

Oreillys was a horror show. I should have tried Bangkok for a few days before I left or find a Time Machine and go back and bang Raquel Welch.

You'the probably have faced same problem in Bangkok, girls aren't that different, unless you found one of black girls on street, or Russian girl in a club, more to your taste.

Last time I checked, BKK is in Thailand and Thai girls are mostly Asian. The odds of finding a dead white supermodel there is about the same as a phat assed Brazilian in Manila but good luck anyway.

Enjoy. G.

[Muttley81]

Lips was awful. Not one was my taste. I loved the inside of blue parrot but the girls just weren't attractive. Neon nights had a lot of girls dancing on the floor but there wasn't anything I liked. I liked the setup of NN. It was like a real small dance club with tons of girls with no sex appeal. Oreillys was a horror show. I should have tried Bangkok for a few days before I left or find a Time Machine and go back and bang Raquel Welch.

We can at least agree on O'Reillys. Horror show is possibly too kind. You'the probably have faced same problem in Bangkok, girls aren't that different, unless you found one of black girls on street, or Russian girl in a club, more to your taste.

[Aml3740]

Just had a short stint in Makati and hired two girls from Manilacourtesans.com.

The last time I had Mika and Maggie, both were awesome. Accurate pics, good skills, attitude. Generally not a bad option if you don't want to go to the bars.

This time however, I had Sarah and Laura-both were epic failers. Sarah for one has terrible acne; a huge backpiece and a missing tooth. While Laura was dead fish (with a IQ to match) and on her fucking period. Worst of all, the GM Jennifer Sanchez is absolutely no help- she can't make recommendations, suggestions or do anything beyond answering "yes" or "no" questions.

This is my second time coming to PI and honestly I don't see the appeal. Not to be prejudice, but Thailand has far better food, hotels and girls.

Besides being marginally cheaper and speaking broken "English". I don't see why PI gets the love it gets.

Anyways, word of caution when using MC. Seriously, I can now understand why some girls get tossed out the hotel balconies now and then and why these girls get treated like they do in M. E.

I've seen from Manila Courtesans a few times. First girl (who doesn't work there now) named Marga (19) spoke little English and did not have a condom with her. She kept asking what to do, and I told her it was okay for blow job only, or pussy job, but she just put it in and went at it. I felt bad and sent her on her way after. Then I saw Jasmine (29), and she was a rock star. Full GFE and kind. Then I saw Lara (34) because I wanted some bigger boobs. Her service was all right, but Jasmine was my favorite. I saw her more than once.

My complaint is that reserving your date in advance doesn't guarantee availability. I tried three times, and failed three times and had to make a last-minute decision. Girl was either on her period or not working that day or not working there anymore. So better to make appointment that same day. The operator was helpful to me, but I think there may be different operators.

[Trvllvr58]

Hey guys. Spent several nights at the airport Marriott and went into Makati only once. Checked out Fyre. Still LMAO on bar fine of 9 k (Tried Lollipop too and the mamasan wanted to charge me x2 for VIP room because I was taking two girls into the room for a BJ. Fuck that! So ended up at Dimples where I had good luck last year.

I was working on USA ET, so I was on a "lunch" break. Planned to come back at 3 am but got talked into taking girls with me with the understanding that they would wait until 3 am for work to be done. Took two girls. One LBFM and one with big tits and HUGE green eyes! (Yes, I know they were lenses but damn they looked good when she was looking up at me!) Had them both sucking my cock during a conference call before the planned 3 am start, but eventually had to make them stop because I needed to access my keyboard!

3 am came soon enough. But I didn't. Not for a while anyway! They took turns putting their mouths on my cock, my nipples and my mouth. I can still see old-green-eyes lookimg up into my eyes with my cock in her mouth. Damn!

Bar fine was 4 k or 4. 5 k. Don't remember exactly. Dimples has a VIP room now. But didn't get a chance to try it. Also a complete change to bar layout from last year. Quite a few girls and some were 8's and 9's.

On 2 other nights I used Manila Courtesans. Yuki 1st night and Raya 2nd night.

Yuki is definitely the girl in her pictures. But the pictures are "glamour shots" for sure. But what would you expect!? Good sex overall. Would repeat if I was there for several weeks. Price is very reasonable considering it's "xxore Dash" service. She was also punctual as Jennifer told me when she left and provided an ETA from screen shot of Grab app.

Raya was a brand new girl on MC when I booked her. She is actuall sexier than her photos. In the phtos she looks "thick". She is NOT skinny, but she is firm and soft at the same time! Nice tits. And loves licking balls and washing them in the shower! She does talk. A lot! But just keep her mough full and you'll be fine!

MC used to have threesome girls listed. I asked Jennifer about that and she provided the names of the ONLY 2 girls that would participate. Neither was hot to me. So that was disappointing! The funny thing is, I mentioned this to Raya on my last night in Manila. She said SHE would do a threesome. And her "girlfriend" was also on MC. She didn't know her (stage) name on MC. So after she swalloed my load, we looked her friend up on my iPhone. It was YUKI! Wish I had a few more days in Manila!

That's it. Reports aren't my strong suit. But I owed this to the members. Now I need to report on Boracay.

[WestCoast1]

The last time I had Mika and Maggie, both were awesome. Accurate pics, good skills, attitude. Generally not a bad option if you don't want to go to the bars. This time however, I had Sarah and Laura-both were epic failers. Sarah for one has terrible acne; a huge backpiece and a missing tooth. While Laura was dead fish (with a IQ to match) and on her fucking period. Worst of all, the GM Jennifer Sanchez is absolutely no help- she can't make recommendations, suggestions or do anything beyond answering "yes" or "no" questions.

This is my second time coming to PI and honestly I don't see the appeal. Not to be prejudice, but Thailand has far better food, hotels and girls. Besides being marginally cheaper and speaking broken "English". I don't see why PI gets the love it gets.

Solid report. As the discussion recently had been much-ado about gogo bars, have you used them in the past, and how would you compare said gogo performance?

Seriously, I can now understand why some girls get tossed out the hotel balconies now and then and why these girls get treated like they do

You say that like its a bad thing.

[TjBrazil]

What makes you think I'm retired in the Phils? I would never live in that Cesspool. I'm strictly in and out. Pump and dump. I live in Singapore, a proper first world country which also BTW has a ton of gorgeous (to me because I love Asian) women. And a short cheap flight from Asia's premier mongering destinations. I am retired though. So you were half right.

I started at bourbon street bar all the way to blue parrot and only found attractive girls at plan be. I went in and out of every bar. The amazing thing is you guys say all these bars are about 9 to 10 k all in. No way Jose.

[TjBrazil]

There's no way you went in Lips, Maison, and Plan be and only found 2 girls to meet your requirements, unless you simply aren't into Asian women. If you're not into Asian women why bother coming to the Philippines? It's not as if you didn't know what you were getting into as you plagued the forum with queries for months before your visit. Between those three bars alone there are probably 150 girls on the roster. When I last went into Lips there were easily 60 girls milling around, I probably would have done 58 out of them.

Lips was awful. Not one was my taste. I loved the inside of blue parrot but the girls just weren't attractive. Neon nights had a lot of girls dancing on the floor but there wasn't anything I liked. I liked the setup of NN. It was like a real small dance club with tons of girls with no sex appeal. Oreillys was a horror show. I should have tried Bangkok for a few days before I left or find a Time Machine and go back and bang Raquel Welch.

[Benja85]

Just had a short stint in Makati and hired two girls from Manilacourtesans.com.

The last time I had Mika and Maggie, both were awesome. Accurate pics, good skills, attitude. Generally not a bad option if you don't want to go to the bars.

This time however, I had Sarah and Laura-both were epic failers. Sarah for one has terrible acne; a huge backpiece and a missing tooth. While Laura was dead fish (with a IQ to match) and on her fucking period. Worst of all, the GM Jennifer Sanchez is absolutely no help- she can't make recommendations, suggestions or do anything beyond answering "yes" or "no" questions.

This is my second time coming to PI and honestly I don't see the appeal. Not to be prejudice, but Thailand has far better food, hotels and girls.

Besides being marginally cheaper and speaking broken "English". I don't see why PI gets the love it gets.

Anyways, word of caution when using MC. Seriously, I can now understand why some girls get tossed out the hotel balconies now and then and why these girls get treated like they do in M. E.

[WestCoast1]

What makes you think I'm retired in the Phils? I would never live in that Cesspool.

Ya, its true. Haha but ahem, its MY cesspool.

There's no way you went in Lips, Maison, and Plan be and only found 2 girls to meet your requirements, unless you simply aren't into Asian women. If you're not into Asian women why bother coming to the Philippines?

I think you have found the recipe's key ingredient. There is a clear difference between S American girls that Teej is used to, and Asianas.

It's not as if you didn't know what you were getting into as you plagued the forum with queries for months before your visit.

And again you hit a key ingredient. Teej failed to do his due diligence, and paid the price for it. In fact, with his post-visit confession that the pics that we post here are not girls to his liking, he fairly admits he either didn't pay attention, or he did pay attention and ignored the evidence in front of him. More on this lack of due diligence among newbs later.

Between those three bars alone there are probably 150 girls on the roster. When I last went into Lips there were easily 60 girls milling around, I probably would have done 58 out of them.

I like the lineup at Lips the best. 60 girls is typical, and they get that many within an hour of opening. Lips has not only has 60+ girls (upstairs, and about 20 downstairs), IMHO they have the highest percentage of thin girls. Notice I did not say 'stunners' or 'lookers', or 'shapely', or such, as 'thin' is easier to defend. To defend Teej a bit, he (and many men) prefer girls with a more curvey figure, a slightly wider ass and / or hips, who retains a skinny waist, and then large rack. This would be more typical of Latinas, S American, or Russian girls, and for the most part applies less to Asian ladies. A matter of perspective.

While M81 might like 58 of 60, on one of my last few waltzes thru Lips, of about the same number of girls, I saw: 4 chubs, 8-10 fugly (not chubby, but not attractive to me due to age or other issue), leaving about 45 that were YES (mostly '7' spinners with a few 8's there also) for me. Just guessing that my 8's might not be acceptable as a YES girl for Teej (not curvy enough).

[WestCoast1]

I can't believe I found it again. Don't know this creator but it's a story of a first timer going to a Burgos gogo bar. You can start at 2:35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeIjR5af9_A.

Great. Thanks BB, I watched it. More coming on this later.

Thanks G and WC. My next trip is between PI and Jakarta now. Clearly Jakarta is cheaper and I don't need to tell anyone has beautiful girls as well but I really want to try something new even if that means spending more on current market rates.

Welcome. Jakarta is great, with hotter girls (fewer chubs, and more like Thailand). You are already on good footing.

I'm a beginner here. Which area / streets are these street girls located? I like to see everything when I go to a new place.

SW in Makati are along P Burgos St, in the area of the bars. Starting across the street from Maison (Burgos corner Badajos Streets) and Citadel Residence, near the 7-11. Further up Burgos, is another gaggle in front of Makati Palace Hotel and Plan be bar (Burgos corner Durban St). Across the street at the same intersection will be more, in front of Durban Hotel. Up Burgos another half block will be another gaggle next to the old Go Bananas, now an unoccupied building next door to Nautica gogo bar.

Use Google maps for all of that. See pics. Single-tipped arrows are bar or hotel locations. Double-tipped arrows are where the ladies congregate. Caution: LadyBoy Alert in ALL AREAS (no vlogger can help you with this).

[Banana Boi]

BB: What video?

I can't believe I found it again. Don't know this creator but it's a story of a first timer going to a Burgos gogo bar. You can start at 2:35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeIjR5af9_A.

if in Burgos (not in AC), her agreeing to ST with you might NOT change her tip request amount. It might be gringo thinking that if she wants p5000 tip for LT (w /2 pops), that she should logically be willing to reduce that tip request to p3000 for a ST (w /1 pop). Pinay math is not your math.

Well then she's staying all night and I'll try snoring as loud as I can!

Some bars and girls will not welcome western foreigners at all. Japanese and Korean focused KTVs jump to mind.

I'm not Japanese but I've managed to learn a bit of casual Japanese having spent so much time in Japan in the past couple of years. Do you think I will be able to get through the doors if I can converse in Japanese?

Thanks G and WC. My next trip is between PI and Jakarta now. Clearly Jakarta is cheaper and I don't need to tell anyone has beautiful girls as well but I really want to try something new even if that means spending more on current market rates.

You can get a street girl for 1500 Peso (30 bucks)

I'm a beginner here. Which area / streets are these street girls located? I like to see everything when I go to a new place.