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  1. #6661
    Hi goferring, I didn't really ask. I assume it was for short time, but even then, with dinner they stayed for 4-5 hours. I think most of the girls working the early hours have kids to go home to so most won't do l / t. But again, if you get along with the girl and she doesn't have to get home, I'm sure she would be more than happy to stay l / t. Sorry I couldn't answer your question better.

  2. #6660
    Quote Originally Posted by QuackUp  [View Original Post]
    Why does the mama san expect a tip? When I went into Bottoms, not once did I use the mama-san. No questions, no recommendations. Nothing.
    Because you are a rich poriner. If rich poriner can pay 9000 pesos for some pussy that poor Pinoy pay nothing for, then surely he can give tip. Or at least this is what they have seen over and over and over again. I think they were just reminding you in case you forgot.

  3. #6659
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidtip  [View Original Post]
    Paying an inordinate amount for an evanescent girl is OK because of the impalpable.

    Amd not incorporeal chance of finding a girl that will display supererogatory or even superfluous behavior.
    I nearly fell off my chair laughing. Brilliant. You and CM are total legends. Keep up the good work Sir!

  4. #6658
    I was off to a rocky start in Makati yesterday. A series of little set backs happened, as they usually do in the Philippines, but I was able to recover the situation eventually.

    As soon as I stepped off the plane, I got a text from a Wechat girl that Id arranged to meet, saying that her mother was sick and had to bail out. I think this was BS. Nerves probably got to her. We had been chatting for nearly a year so it's not as if she didn't know me. When the big day comes, some will just hide rather than step up. Then my second option also tanked. A PL girl from QC was super keen to meet, but was MIA when it counted. Must not have had any load. If you want to meet a pooriner, you need to have your phone loaded up. I don't know how other mongers feel, but I'm finding this online business all rather stressful. It was much easier to just point and shoot, but we all need to get with the times I guess.

    Feeling a little disappointed, I then headed to Burgos Street to get a nice hooker from one of the bars. With my pockets stuffed with blue notes, how hard could it be?? I went into to PlanB. It was a sausage fest. Make that a Korean and Japanese sausage fest. Few girls and heaps of businessmen and tourists. I was the only non K or non J. I was not feeling too good about my chances. Anyhow, I told the waitress to bring over a super hot spinner with long black hair (boys, remember the days when the chicas didn't bleach their hair?) She was super cute and I was ready to barfine her in an instant. We went through the usual ritual. SML for me and LD for her and talked about her province, kids, etc. She said she commuted 3 hours from Bulacan every day. True or false? Then I popped the question. Then I got the answer all mongers dread. She replied "May be you go with my friend?" Fuck, just great! 300 down on an LD and I had to start again. So I called another chick over who would have also been an 8. 5. She said she would normally accept a bar fine but had agreed to meet a guest, so was just waiting for him. May be that was also a way to get out of it? Who knows? Not wanting to throw good money after bad, I paid my 800 peso bill and headed out the door.

    I remembered Westie's recent excellent report on Mirrors, so I just crossed the road and headed in there. Mirrors could not have been any more different from PlanB. Chalk and cheese. No Koreans or Japanese. Clientele was all Western or Arab. The girls were all in the 4-6 range, whereas in PlanB, they were in the 7-9 range. As soon as I entered, I was instantly mobbed by six girls. Talk about a rock star reception haha. Too bad there were no good looking ones there haha. Six sets of hands were all over my body. A few had taken their tops off by now and one was putting her nipple in my mouth, while one was trying to DFK me at the same time. They had undid my shirt by now. Someone was sucking on my nipple. Someone was massaging by chest. One had hopped on and was grinding me reverse cow girl. It was just crazy. Mamma asked if I wanted to buy them all a LD. I just picked the two closest and bought them a drink each. The rest then left. More DFK and cock massage followed by the two remaining ones. One then took her shorts and panties off and asked me to feel her pussy. This is all out in the open. They then asked if I wanted a double blow job right there. I was going to fuck them, so we talked money. Mamma agreed to discount the barfine from 3,900 each to 3,500 each. I then negotiated 2,000 each for the girls short time. I paid the mama. She was a real hustler and demanded a 500 peso tip. I just gave a 100 peso tip and ran out. She was just taking the pisss by now. Mongers might think I'm crazy for spending 11,000 on girls who would only be 5, but it's hard to explain. Even the most ironed willed monger would have collapsed under that selling pressure at Mirrors. I would recommend everyone try it once.

    It was a crazy sight. My height starts with a 6 in front. These two hookers were around 4'6" and they looked like real cheap scrubbers. LOL. The larger one was called Shela and I can't remember the tiny one's name, so I will just call her Tiny. We all bundled into a cab and headed to my hotel in Makati. This is a quality joint and I'm sure the security guys and bell hops were rolling on the floor laughing when they saw the three of us enter.

    What then followed was 2. 5 hours of the most crazy, debauched sex I've ever experienced. The two girls put in 150% effort and went well beyond expected standards of service. My room was like a fkn porn set. It was just full on kissing, sucking, licking and fucking for the whole time. Tiny and Shela were completely up for full lesbian action, and had no inhibitions what so ever. The highlight was when Tiny and me ate out Shela's asshole and pussy together and then Shela licked the ass and pussy juice off our mouths. Totally fkn wicked. Shela offered up her ass for anal but I couldn't get more than the tip in, all the while Tiny was cheering us on and DFKing me. After they left, the whole room just smelled of sex. They both want to repeat outside of Mirrors and Shela has given me her cell number, but Tiny said she was too poor to have a phone. I don't know that I will repeat, because I just don't have the time and Makati has too many options.

    So the moral of the story is that ordinary looking girls can and often provide a fabulous level of service.
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  5. #6657
    Quote Originally Posted by QuackUp  [View Original Post]
    She let's me know that the normal barfine is $3900 and the girl will ask for $5000 p. For h / h the barfine is $2100 p and she was not sure what the girl would ask for. So I ask her if she want to barfine with me.
    Thanks for the post. Just so I'm clear, does the Happy Hour BF (took me forever to figure out what h / h was &#128513 only cover a Short Time session and then she must return to the bar or if the girl wants can she stay until morning (with a suitable tip of course)?

    Cheers. G.

  6. #6656

    Continuing from AC

    After 3 days with no rain, driving back to Manila the rain comes down and doesn't stop until the day I leave the Philippines. In Makati, I start off at a bar called Wow Wow Wow. This bar is very hands on. The girls are slightly above average and I'm guessing the age is high 20's to low 30's. They make up for that with their interaction. I was actually going to go to the stripclub across the street but they weren't open. Anyways, the girl I bought a drink for was very friendly. Her hands roamed everywhere but especially the stick shift. My hands were everywhere also. She even asked if I wanted a BJ in the bar. I still wanted to go to the other clubs so I declined. I bought her two drinks and gave her a couple $100 p and she was happy. Since the rain wouldn't stop, I decided to go to bottoms since it seemed like the best looking girls would be there. I get there around 20:00 so no h / h for me. The talent was okay but I was expecting a couple of stunners. I did see one girl who looked good but she was sitting with a customer. No one else excited me. Maybe I should have gotten the BJ at the other bar. The girl who I liked gets up and so does her customer. I'm thinking he will be barfine her. But no. She goes to the bathrom and the customer leaves. When she comes out of the bathroom she sits with some other girls so I call her over. Sorry I didn't ger her name. I get her a drink and start asking her question about the place. She let's me know that the normal barfine is $3900 and the girl will ask for $5000 p. For h / h the barfine is $2100 p and she was not sure what the girl would ask for. So I ask her if she want to barfine with me. She said okay but I'm on my period. She would give me a BJ but no vaginal activity. Now I know why the other guy didn't barfine her. I said thank you but declined. No one else appealed to me so called it a night.

    Start off the day by walking to Greenbelt. At the time it was raining lightly. By the time I get there, it is pouring. Decided to wait it out by seeing a movie. The only American movie was It chapter 2. It cost $500 p to see it and the cashier gave me a coupon for a free popcorn and water. I thought that was still high but then I find out why. It was showing in 4 xd In L. A. 4 xd would cost $30.00 usd. The movie was longer than I thought it would be. It started at 12:30 but didn't finish until 15:15. Still raining hard so took a cab back to the hotel. Shower and headed out to Bottoms for h / h. I sit and finally see a girl I really like. Call her over got her a drink and barfined her. Again the bar fine was $2100 p. She wanted $4000 p for herself but when I gave her a funny look, she said but for you, only $3500 p. I laughed and said lets go. It was hard to understand but it sounded like her name was Leia. For me she had the looks and attitude I like. Back at the hotel she asked if I wanted to shower with her. I told her yes but the shower in this hotel was small. She looked and said okay one by one. Not only did she have the looks, we started making out and she kisses the way I like it, sloppy and a lot of tongue. She gave a mean BBBJ and when I DATY, she got really wet. The main event was covered but it was great. She stayed until 20:00 and because it was raining and she didn't have an umbrella I walked her back to the bar. Great session.

    Final day in Makati. Still raining and at about 15:00 I head back over to Bottom's. If she is there I would repeat, if not someone new. She's not there so I see another girl that's not too bad. Her name is Nichol and I barfine her. Again, a good session. Dfking good BBBJ DATY and covered main event. After we shower, I ask her if she was hungry and would she like to join me for dinner. She said she wasn't too hungry but would come to the restaurant to keep me company. I had seen this restaurant when I was walking around earlier in the day. If I knew about this restaurant yesterday I would have taken Leia. The name of the restaurant is Alba's. A Spanish restaurant and I was glad she came so I could order different types of tapas. I could tell she wasn't used to eating at restaurant because when they brought the bread basket I told her to help herself. She asked if the bread was free because if not, she would not eat it. I told her it wasn't free but it came with the meal. So finally she took a bread and spread butter on it. She told me she didn't have butter at her house. I told her not to eat too much bread because I ordered three different dishes. Pallela, Jamon Serano and suckling pig. Everything was goos. On the expensive side for the Philippines but the food and company were great. What we didn't finished we got it packed up and I told her to take it home with her. She was so happy. I walk her to the bar and she gives me a deep tongue kiss and says goodbye.

    I do have a rant about these bars, mostly in Makati and Pasay. Why does the mama san expect a tip? When I went into Bottoms, not once did I use the mama-san. No questions, no recommendations. Nothing. The only time I saw the mama-san was when they called her over to collect the bar fine. Even worse, the bartender at Bottoms followed me from the booth I was in to the door trying to shove an empty cigar box that said bartender tip on it. All three times the bartender did this. All three times I shined him on. Also, on the last visit to Bottoms this fat waitress with glasses gave me my final bar bill. It came out to $760 p. I place a thousand bill on the receipt. She grabs the money and says okay and the rest will be a tip for me and mama-san. With a stern voice I told her hell no, you better bring me my change! At this point I wasn't going to give her anything but I calmed down and left $50 p. Sorry guys end of rant.

  7. #6655
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    It ? Do the intangible aspects overshadow the slight cost difference?
    Paying an inordinate amount for an evanescent girl is OK because of the impalpable.

    Amd not incorporeal chance of finding a girl that will display supererogatory or even superfluous behavior.

  8. #6654
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    Do the intangible aspects overshadow the slight cost difference?
    When we get a solo spinner we think we are getting a better deal and hope for some upside.

    Generally (in my experience) when agencies are involved the girls all stick to one set of rules and prices. Yes, it's consistent and no downside but no upside.

    I think you are also factoring in the duds that we all get when we hunt freelancers.

    PP.

  9. #6653
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    Do the intangible aspects overshadow the slight cost difference?
    Gawd when did mongering get this complicated?

  10. #6652
    Quote Originally Posted by Shy711  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I m coming to Makati on this Sunday and will be there for 2 weeks for business purpose.

    I m looking for good contacts or site where I could find some good ones.

    My requirements are the girl should say for entire night with me.

    Girl can some around 9 or 10 pm to my hotel room.

    Play with my jhonny till I finish my works in laptop and then I have sex with her and we sleep together and she leaves in the morning.

    I'm looking for this for 2 weeks and it can be one girl or many girls too.
    Plenty of good advice given and all are saying come, look, try and taste.

    And unlike the previous 9 FRs (1 redacted) in India where you ask for digits try and let us see Manila from a newbie perspective.

    So RTFF will tell you all about girls, prices, which bars, which escort agencies etc.

    And as we can't give contacts on the board please PM me as I have some but the board rule don't allow anyone to post numbers.

    Look forward to the OM and enjoy your time.

  11. #6651

    Do the escort sites really cost more?

    It is often said here that the escort sites are a little to a lot more expensive than going to Burgos street.

    I realize that some like the hunt, some are willing to pay for a clean transaction no hassles, but all things considered what really is the cost difference?

    Some things like taxi fees will be location dependent, costs on Burgos will depend on negotiating skills and experience, there is a risk factor to be considered, and some factors like beers while hunting also give a benefit but on a strictly price per pop for girls of comparable quality and mileage, is there that much difference? Do the intangible aspects overshadow the slight cost difference?

  12. #6650
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    Don't expect any love or affection. It is purely transactional.
    What's love got to do with it? LOL, but I do think you can meet some real nice girls, have great GFE sex, and enjoy an all around good time with many of them. If you are at all like me, you will find that it is hard to do just one night stands because the girls are so nice and it feels so good and worth repeating. An added bonus is after you establish a relationship with one or two or three (a fun transactional relationship, not love) they will come straight to your hotel cutting your initial cost in half. I really like Burgos bar girls and Manila girls in general. Some of my favorite girls over the last 10 years have been MNL girls.

  13. #6649
    Quote Originally Posted by Shy711  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I m coming to Makati on this Sunday and will be there for 2 weeks for business purpose.

    I m looking for good contacts or site where I could find some good ones.

    My requirements are the girl should say for entire night with me.

    Girl can some around 9 or 10 pm to my hotel room.

    Play with my jhonny till I finish my works in laptop and then I have sex with her and we sleep together and she leaves in the morning.

    I'm looking for this for 2 weeks and it can be one girl or many girls too.
    You can certainly fulfill your fantasy. No problem. As Sammon has mentioned, you will just need money. Manila is not cheap and the good looking girls know their value, so be sure to bring lots of money.

    You can go to Burgos each night and get a different girl to sleep with you. It will cost 10,000 pesos, so for 14 nights that comes to 140,000. EDSA may be a fraction cheaper and escorts sites like Manila Courtesans will be a bit more. Don't expect any love or affection. It is purely transactional.

  14. #6648
    Quote Originally Posted by Shy711  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I m coming to Makati on this Sunday and will be there for 2 weeks for business purpose.

    I m looking for good contacts
    You will be in Makati for 2 weeks. Great! That gives you plenty of time to hit the Bars on Burgos and in the EDSA Entertainment Complex and find / make your own contacts. There are tons of girls to choose from. All dying to make your acquaintance and show you a good time. It is always better if you choose your own.

  15. #6647
    Quote Originally Posted by Shy711  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I m coming to Makati on this Sunday and will be there for 2 weeks for business purpose.

    I m looking for good contacts or site where I could find some good ones.

    My requirements are the girl should say for entire night with me.

    Girl can some around 9 or 10 pm to my hotel room.

    Play with my jhonny till I finish my works in laptop and then I have sex with her and we sleep together and she leaves in the morning.

    I'm looking for this for 2 weeks and it can be one girl or many girls too.
    I think your demands are unrealistic in real world of dating. Money is the key. There are many escort sites you can try and give them a heads up what you want. They might ask their girls and quote a price. If you agree it is done. Money is the key. Even then once the girl is in the room may not fulfill your requirements.

    No girl is hard up for sex in Philippines.

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