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[Goferring]

If he thinks he is serious about this chick though I would advise him to go early to experience other people whether normal chicks or monger stuff. Then after that, meet up with that chick and that will tell it all.

Good advice. Every new arrival, new or old hand, arrives with some level of blue balls that distorts his perspective. Have some meaningless fun upon arrival then you will be clear headed and the big head will be the one making decisions.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.

She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.

As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.

Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.

There are guys on this board who have married a pina and lived happily ever after just as there are guys who have been severely burnt and lost everything. A couple are literally in jail as we speak. Hence, its no surprise that the advice has ranged from meet her and have a good time through to all girls a whorres to be fucked and forgotten. My guess is that your girl, like many, will fall somewhere in the middle.

At the end of the day, its your life. Go have a good time but be alert for the good and bad signs that everyone has mentioned here and react accordingly. . If it works out, great. If not, have your fun and move on.

[Member #4698]

There is an endless line of lonely guys who come to poor 3rd world countries looking for love in the form of a marriage and a legal relationship. 99.999% of the time it does not work for obvious reasons. That stat should tell these guys something, but it rarely does because their loneliness is so acute.

All I will advise our current lonely heart is for your own sake take your time. Yes, come to the PI, meet the girl, and see if you click. But fuhgeddaboud any romantic entanglement nonsense you may have in your head and above all else; Do not do anything rash like marry the girl or bring her to your country for a minimum of 2 years after you meet her. A lot can happen in 2 years. You will a lot wiser and more experienced than you are now in 2 years. If the girl still appeals to you after 2 years, then do what you want with her. The odds will still be stacked against the two of you especially if you plan to bring her back to your home country, but at least you will be an informed romantic fool rather than a completely uninformed one.

[Mr Enternational]

Dude, you have already lost. There is a phrase called alpha fucks and beta bucks. Look at how much you are paying. Look at how you are accommodating her. You have let American women get you down to the point where you think of yourself as a loser. Look at what you think is reasonable. $3000 for one trip to accommodate one woman and 2 weeks out of your life?

You have a case of oneitis. You think she could be the one, and there is no such thing!

Shit. If my man Elvis is coming off like this then there must be something to it. My own uncle fucked up like that. He met some chick in Davao online that kept calling him daddy. He ended up divorcing my aunt and hightailing it to PI where he built a house for the chick and her family. He is a carpenter by trade so at least he saved on the labor. Now his ass is back in the States broke.

If he thinks he is serious about this chick though I would advise him to go early to experience other people whether normal chicks or monger stuff. Then after that, meet up with that chick and that will tell it all. Easy to fall like that when you are love and attention starved and some exotic chick comes along whispering sweet nothings. Like I tried to tell my uncle before he ran over there, the country is full of chicks that will call you daddy. That is nothing special or extraordinary. But of course mfs don't listen and have to learn on their own.

[PedroMorales]

She had to go to the bus terminal to get information everyone has. There is a major bus station at Dau, about 2 km from Walking Street and a jeepney depot beside Walking Street. Her family members and their pet pig could give her that info.

She has no current ID? Right.

Send me $200 so I can drink it on Red Horse. No video chats though but I will refer you to Chaterbate.

"Someone at the Philippines consulate in the US" gave you bum advice. Did they downgrade their embassy?

Here are your relevant links regarding exiting the US on a US passport to LBFM land.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ilippines.html

https://ph.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

After you send me my money, buy a towel and baby oil.

She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.

She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.

As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.

Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.

[Elvis 2008]

The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.

I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites.

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.

Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.

Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.

I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

Dude, you have already lost. There is a phrase called alpha fucks and beta bucks. Look at how much you are paying. Look at how you are accommodating her. You have let American women get you down to the point where you think of yourself as a loser. Look at what you think is reasonable. $3000 for one trip to accommodate one woman and 2 weeks out of your life? You are already doing everything she wants. Watch this video. Hell, watch all the videos from this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUP3gTfpn0

You have a case of oneitis. You think she could be the one, and there is no such thing!

I was like you, and Mr. E was giving me shit. He was right, and I have changed my tune.

Here is a book you need to read: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

It breaks down what a waste it is chasing women like you are doing (and like I was doing).

The best case scenario is you meet her, have good sex, and she milks you from abroad.

The worst case scenario is you marry her. She moves her family over, and five years later, she screams abuse and has you kicked out of your own home.

I know you are not going to listen to me. Maybe if you get the ROI book on pursuing women you might stop this insanity.

You already have established yourself as a beta, and you have to cut and run and onto the next. You really need to up your game and act like an alpha.

I do not know if you have a thing for Asian women over Latinas, and I do not know Asia that well but $3000 would buy you 3 months of pussy in Bogota or 2 years if you just dedicated it to one woman.

You have let American girls beat your ego down. If you have that kind of scratch and are willing to go to the third world, you are a fucking stud, and you need to start acting like one.

[ViperF33]

She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.

She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.

As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.

Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.

[Mr Enternational]

Why would she meet in Clark? Has she her own chopper? Does she support as trike driver there?

Maybe she thinks his flight will come into Clark and she will be waiting for him at the airport when he arrives.

[Golfinho]

I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!

What do you think you are doing: having an audition to purchase a girlfriend / life mate?

Women are the same the world over. Just go about it as you've done with all the other girls you've met and become friends with throughout your life.

[Kazeu]

My advice to you, wiithout knowing your exact situation. Do not bring this girl to your home country without living with her in the philippinies for at least 6 months. This is the best advice I can give to anyone considering marrying a filipina. If you can't do that, then you can't afford a filipina girlfriend. No amount of talkinig on the phone or video chatting is going to prepare you for what she truly is: a combination of filipino culture and norms, as well as a product of her own specific background. That said. I wish you the best of luck on your adventure.

Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.

I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.

Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.

Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.

I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

[PedroMorales]

Why would she meet in Clark? Has she her own chopper? Does she support as trike driver there?

The place to rendezvous is Dau bus terminal and then get a jeepney taxi whatever to San Fernando or further north. Why would you bring a woman and her sister to an open air brothel? Angeles has nothing going for it, only women with exotic sexual diseases and fake Viagra.

What kind of advice would you expect to get here from guys who send dick pics to guys posing as gals on web sites? If she is into eating out go go gals and doing a little hussling and shooting some pool, then Pampanga is for her. What about you? You are travelling half way around the world to tramp through shanty towns to woo her. Deus vult.

Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.

I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.

[Sammon]

Don't listen at all to the jaded mongers here. Get a decent hotel and conduct your business as planned. Meet the sister and family and decide for yourself. You really don't need any advice from this forum. This is cheap sex forum. Not conducive for LTR or loving marriages!

If things go well then go to Manila. There are decent hotels and areas in your price range.

What are you talking about? We are not jaded just mongers per se. We have been through all these feelings. We have met, fallen in love albeit short time not enough to commit. This forum is not cheap sex only forum. We do discuss lots of things other than sex.

We have enough experience to suggest tread with care. It is one thing to look to marry a girl from Philippines. At the same time this person should know all the facts. So far he has not met the girl and he is already talking about taking her to America. He is open to let the sister come with the girl for meeting. He is already on the hook for sending money. Does not matter his reason for it.

IMHO he should go meet the girl alone. If both hit it off then take one step at a time. Ofcourse girl will gladly accept the chance of going to America to better her life. As we all know the whole family will also benefit. Once in America which takes a long time nowadays there is no guarantee she will stay with him. Definitely for two years because of immigration laws but after who knows.

[CrazyMan]

Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends ......................... to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

Follow your heart. But listen to the brain from time to time as well. In the end you are the one talking to her and only you can determine what the feeling is.

All I can say is good luck and I hope it works out well!

CM.

Edit also as a counterweight to the all girls are out there to pluck you posts:

So I went to Tanzania in December for work. And had an African girl in Africa for the first time. A true pearl. We have continued whatsapping since then as I had a crust on her from the moment we went from our dinner to my room.

In the beginning she said I like you and want to see you again but you are to old for a relationship with me. She is very early 20s and I am mid 40s only one year younger than her father. But she wanted to continue talking because she felt I had treated her like a gentleman and respected her. She only goes with men irregularly when her shop is doing badly. She told me about how the men she goes with usually look down on her. Because she is African and they consider her cheap meat. The usual remarks she gets is that she is to black to be considered more than a fuck doll. And she hates that. She said the older the men and the richer the more they treat you like trash.

After about 10 days her internet was finished and I decided to spontaneously send her 8 euro to her M-pesa account. She upped internet, called me back and was truly pissed. She said: "why do men always think we need an ATM .... I am talking to you because I like you and want to know you better not because I want your money." Took me a day or so to make up on that. I am used to girls hitting me up for money from day one. Never ever had this reaction.

So around Christmas she told me that I was the most friendly man she ever talked with. Someone whom doesn't talk about sex. Doesn't ask for pussy photos. And doesn't send dick pics (she blocks all of those men and men that ask her to marry them, she has shown me all the requests she gets for that). I talk with her about normal life btw. What her dreams are and what she wants ..... very normal things ...... but according to her no man ever wants to talk with her about that (African, Arab or Muzungu). Also since Christmas we have been whatsapp calling every day and video calling sometimes as well.

At new years day she told me that she had changed her mind. She could now see us having a relationship and if I wanted to marriage. I actually got proposed by a girl. But hse wants to be in her country so she wants me to go there. She wants to build her business and then later she wants to take care of me when I am old (technically I am already). It is nice to actually hear these things from a poor girl whom has never had anything in life and had to fight for everything she has reached so far. She is very proud of herself. And now wants to add an older fat poor muzungu to her list of accomplishments strangely enough.

Basically what is most important to her is that I am kind and respectful. She is telling me honestly what she is up too. Sending me the marriage proposals as they come in from guys (some young and handsome) that she has never met (most of them). She has only slept with one other guy since and wants to not do it anymore until she is sure where she and me are going. She has by now agreed for me to send 8 euro twice a month to pay for the internet for all our voice calling, sometimes up to 3 hours .... and spontaneously send me 2 private photos as well.

So in short although I am hardened myself by many girls after money only. I have finally found an honest hard working one after over 25 years of looking. So it is possible. She has really touched me with her behaviour and I will try to make the best of it with her. Either that or she is the most clever girl I ever met and is playing a very clever game. But every day I get more convinced that she really just wants a man that treats her very nice and talks to her and most importantly ..... simply listens.

[Goferring]

You missed your chance. You could be a happily married monger and be supporting a trike driver as well.

Missed my chace with whom? ID put the importer ahead of the waitresses: she could probably afford to support me and a couple of trike drivers at the same time. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day.

What, did you pay for her a 5-year subscription? My internet is only 30 cents per day in PI. Live and learn.