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  1. #19027
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

    The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.
    Yes, It is increasingly unattractive to plan just for our hobby now. I had been to cebu during May 2022. I had a few good memories (through social networking). But paid scene had gone downhill. I love travel, classic(jakarta indonesia) if I wish multiple point and shoot scene. Somehow I haven't had a good worthy punt at manila.

  2. #19026

    Greedy Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

    The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.
    Agreed. The market is getting overpriced. To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.

  3. #19025
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.
    Hear, hear. Overpaying is for insecure guys. Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level. A good rule of thumb in any market is to pay 10 x the local price of a haircut for an ST. I see the haircuts now go for P 50-60 so we are already grossly overpaying at the P 1-1. 5 K level.

  4. #19024

    What has the PI come to

    What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

    The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.

  5. #19023
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangsan  [View Original Post]
    Standards of beauty may come into play as well. I've mostly lived and mongered in East Asia the past decade or so, and in comparison the girls in Manila seem on average to be so much thicker! Where were the tight Pinay spinners I heard so much about?! Now I'm in Thailand, and by god, the ladies are so much slimmer on average!
    Yes. We've written extensively over the years about the "Jollibee" chubby-ing of the population, even recently drawing the differences in the gals from Phils and Thailand, physically and language-wise. Sad state of affairs. Sorry you had a difficult time. If you want lots-O-lookers on-demand, go to BKK / Patts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It's never good to hear of someone not having a good trip. SNIP I'd agree that is now extremely rare to find a slim and tall girl in PH. It's more likely in Mindanao but that's a long way from Manila and not an option for anyone who is time poor.
    OTOH, if you have some time to preen between the weeds, I hear you can find a happy spinner or two.
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  6. #19022

    MC Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    5000 is a fair price for using service. Not sure if they are service oriented. Is this LT or ST? BBCIP?

    I use DIA girls. I offer them 2500 per day initially and generally give 3000. They are sweet honeys. Hangs around with me all the time and on demand sex. Otherwise they listen to music, watch tv and it is GFE.

    Going to Manila next month on the way to Jakarta. Landing early in the morning in Manila and have till evening to catch a flight to Jakarta. Hoping to get a day use hotel. Will try my luck at new coast hotel first which I like. If not successful troll along that area and check wall hotels. Have lined up two girls who will be with me all day.

    Not very successful in getting a girl in Jakarta yet. The ones I chatted are either ugly or fat or both. They are mostly older. Seems like Jakarta girls are not in the same mould as Philippine girls. Although I had met many nice girls in Jakarta and had fun few years ago. Maybe girls have changed their outlook there.
    Check out the website for pricing. It varies by girl. And it is ST. Also see FAQ for rules. BBBJ but not BBFS is the standard. And YES, very service oriented was my experience.

  7. #19021

    Jewel is OLD!

    Quote Originally Posted by Drbombay  [View Original Post]
    I plan to be back to Manila in April and though I have many I've been in contact with from previous visits last year, I like the idea of Manila Courtesans. I never made the time for them. The one I saw on there today "Jewel" looks like she's worth the price!
    I highly recommend Pearl. Great value at 5 k. Still thinking of her even now.

  8. #19020

    NO BBFS from Manila Courtesans

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalGuy  [View Original Post]
    Do the girls on Manila Courtesans generally offer BBFS? Is there any way to determine this when selecting a girl?

    RG.
    IME. That's a solid No! Read the FAQ, they address it there as well. But BBBJ is great.

  9. #19019

    Abacca was a bust

    Went there yesterday afternoon. Paid my 1300 for 80 minutes. Went into a dark room with a curtain in the middle of the hallway where you could hear everything in other rooms. Didn't get to pick the girl. Got someone I felt was highly unattractive and got a rough massage and a very subpar HJ.

  10. #19018
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangsan  [View Original Post]
    Correct, this is the place I went to. It sucked, heh.
    Plan be wasn't the best before it closed, that's why I've not been back since it reopened. You made me laugh with comment about girls standing on stage looking bored, that's exactly what used to happen previously!

    Shame you didn't have a good time though, there are some great places you can have a lot of fun with good looking girls.

  11. #19017
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It's never good to hear of someone not having a good trip. Unfortunately, I'd side with Sammon and agree that throwing money at problem rarely works in PH. Typically the opposite as girls see this as an easy mark and try to exploit it by over charging and / or minimal effort.

    I'd agree that is now extremely rare to find a slim and tall girl in PH. It's more likely in Mindanao but that's a long way from Manila and not an option for anyone who is time poor.

    Cheers. G.
    There are many spinners at Japanese- Korean oriented Karaoke bars. They hire only the best doll looking girls. I had a Japanese friend who liked to go to such places. I liked Karaoke's in China but not in Manila.

    I had contact online with a Karaoke hostess. She wanted 10,000 pesos per night. I will attach her pic here. Not my thing when I get country bumpkins who are also pretty and best GFE service.

    At the entertainment complex which had many bars there were many pretty girls. I had a friend there extremely pretty, tall and nice shape with big boobs. She said she is a mistress of a leading lawyer there and she claims she does not go with everyone. I take it with a grain of salt. However she was a nice GFE girl with me although at that time I paid her only 2000 per night.

    Like anything else in life sometimes you get the cream of the crop and sometimes you are stuck with a dud.
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  12. #19016

    So sad

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangsan  [View Original Post]
    Where were the tight Pinay spinners I heard so much about?! Now I'm in Thailand, and by god, the ladies are so much slimmer on average!
    Food addiction is so sad. Here is a thing every young bird could do to make the world a better place, and what do they do? Eat themselves out of the desirable range.

  13. #19015
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangsan  [View Original Post]
    Manila was a huge disappointment to me, enough so that I actually cut my 8 day trip short and left after the third night. Was booked for 8 nights at the Okada Manila casino, which is a legitimately good place, but they refunded me the next five.
    How I wish it was possible to offer a business where an experienced monger (such as myself) has a vetted list of slim girls that will make this work.

    A) Meet the visitor at the airport, accompany him to hotel. Flirting in the car. Assist with check-in.

    B1) Take monger to 3-4 bars or.

    B2) Arrange dinner dates with vetted list of tall hot spinners.

    C) Ensure he scores.

    Could easily do this with a vetted list of 10 girls which can be rotated through the various visitors over the months given most people are 1-2 week visits in this market.

  14. #19014
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangsan  [View Original Post]
    Fully respect this. For me, I'm in late 30's and fairly well off, and am fairly picky. While money doesn't necessarily guarantee good product, I've found that as with most things in life, the more you are willing to crack your wallet, the higher your chances of landing something nice are. I'm also very time poor, so there is that aspect of the equation as well; in the end, brute forcing things with a bit of extra paper has done very well for me in almost every country...
    It's never good to hear of someone not having a good trip. Unfortunately, I'd side with Sammon and agree that throwing money at problem rarely works in PH. Typically the opposite as girls see this as an easy mark and try to exploit it by over charging and / or minimal effort.

    I'd agree that is now extremely rare to find a slim and tall girl in PH. It's more likely in Mindanao but that's a long way from Manila and not an option for anyone who is time poor.

    Cheers. G.

  15. #19013
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    By now you should realize spending lots of money does not equate GFE service. I have never used any escort girls anywhere in the world. I only look for freelancers at a bar. Most often I hook up on dating sites. They stay with me and give good service for less damage. I have stayed in many mid range hotels as well as high range hotels. I do not try to impress girls. After all they are rent a while anyway.

    Philippines is one of the few places left where even normal girls do not look at the age difference. Even little money helps them a lot where average salary is very low. Almost all need to send money home to the provinces or help parents and siblings if at home. Over many years of mongering I have many other locations for example China, Thailand, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Cambodia etc where girls are not eager to service cheaply.

    If you are finding it hard in Philippines to find a good service provider maybe you should go to Europe and try escort sites with top notch high end girls. However their service maybe questionable.
    Fully respect this. For me, I'm in late 30's and fairly well off, and am fairly picky. While money doesn't necessarily guarantee good product, I've found that as with most things in life, the more you are willing to crack your wallet, the higher your chances of landing something nice are. I'm also very time poor, so there is that aspect of the equation as well; in the end, brute forcing things with a bit of extra paper has done very well for me in almost every country, be it through escorts, Seeking, or whatever. Based on my very short trip and stories I've heard from local friends, Manila strikes me as a place where maybe you can get good results if you stay here and put in a lot of time, but that wasn't a possibility for me.

    Standards of beauty may come into play as well. I've mostly lived and mongered in East Asia the past decade or so, and in comparison the girls in Manila seem on average to be so much thicker! Where were the tight Pinay spinners I heard so much about?! Now I'm in Thailand, and by god, the ladies are so much slimmer on average!

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