Manila

[GDreams]

This was exactly was it for me. This trip was meant to be a mix of business and pleasure. Meet some of my employees and partners, then relax for a few days. The first three days of work with play as a side deal showed me everything I needed to know. My pleasure dollars were best spent elsewhere. PH seems like a better place for people who are time-rich than money-rich for now, so its just not going to be my cup of tea. I'll check back in a few years, maybe! .

I paid 4000 p for girls to stay overnight all from dating sites. These girls were 19 - 21. I had a 25 yo willing to come for 3000 but she looked a little overweight and I like skinny girls. I had a few offers of 5000 but ended up going for repeats because they met my tastes and I'm happy to be with people of known performance. I'm sure some would come for less but these girls paid their own transport, others will ask for taxi or grab. I am sure a lot of older girls will settle for less but young and pretty are more difficult to persuade for a +60 yo. A hot model offered 10,000. A 19 yo off TANTAN I am working on for my return that is mainly interested in trying out a foreigner and some kinky sex fantasies. If you can get hot and slim for less than 4000 overnight in Manila then congrats but I was happy with the service and the package which is the only thing that matters for me.

[Zhangsan]

Respectfully EA, that's a generalization. Those prices don't apply everywhere in Phils. 10 k for Burgos girls is the norm, which hasn't changed in the past decade. 5 k in AC has become a norm, with sketchy service, which is quite a change. Both of those areas combined involve less than a 1000 girls. So many other options are available in Phils, for less money.

The dividing issue is that there are limited options for the vacationing warrior, and Burgos / AC are the quickest and easiest ways to get satisfaction in the shortest time. That they are the most expensive options has not changed. As long as the Koreans are flooding AC, you will see the higher prices there. Factor in the death of EDSA and the loss of girls there, and prices go up. Those who have more time on their hands and are not worried about occasional failure / denial / rejection, will do better on prices. Guys who are on a time leash need a girl TONIGHT, and pay for the convenience.

This was exactly was it for me. This trip was meant to be a mix of business and pleasure. Meet some of my employees and partners, then relax for a few days. The first three days of work with play as a side deal showed me everything I needed to know. My pleasure dollars were best spent elsewhere. PH seems like a better place for people who are time-rich than money-rich for now, so its just not going to be my cup of tea. I'll check back in a few years, maybe! .

[Zhangsan]

Plan be wasn't the best before it closed, that's why I've not been back since it reopened. You made me laugh with comment about girls standing on stage looking bored, that's exactly what used to happen previously!

Shame you didn't have a good time though, there are some great places you can have a lot of fun with good looking girls.

I can almost be ok with looking bored, but when two of them leaned back and started to take huge vape hits on stage, I couldn't help but start to laugh my ass off!

[Zhangsan]

How I wish it was possible to offer a business where an experienced monger (such as myself) has a vetted list of slim girls that will make this work.

A) Meet the visitor at the airport, accompany him to hotel. Flirting in the car. Assist with check-in.

B1) Take monger to 3-4 bars or.

B2) Arrange dinner dates with vetted list of tall hot spinners.

C) Ensure he scores.

Could easily do this with a vetted list of 10 girls which can be rotated through the various visitors over the months given most people are 1-2 week visits in this market.

I kid you not, I would happily pay through the nose for a service like this. Wish we had something akin to Japan's Universe Club for every country!

[JusRide]

Mr. Big is Korean. While I rarely carry more than 10 K on me (from the ATM to my place, where I lock up half of it; 10 k lasts 4-5 days), they carry 50 K (or more) and dump it in a day. They exchange their K-won for pesos at the mall money changer, walking out with half a million or more pesos. I saw 3 of them walk out of a mall money changer with a combined p6+ million; it took them 15 minutes just to count it to their satisfaction before departing (just guessing that they contacted the mall money changer a day or so prior to let them know that they would later be changing LARGE). He's not playing Big, he IS Big. I am sure Napa has similar stories of the AC K's.

I've witnessed K customers literally throwing 1 k bills from the second floor down to the stage at Club XS. They're nuts and just show boating. The other problem I've experienced on why the girls prefer K customer's in addition to the money is that girls have said they're quick and smaller than average.

Also witnessed a K customer at a casino a few years back at Newport Resort World, sitting there with a stack about 2 inches high of 1 k pesos and just burning through the money like they were 50 peso bills. Crazy.

[Expat American]

Respectfully EA, that's a generalization. Those prices don't apply everywhere in Phils. 10 k for Burgos girls is the norm, which hasn't changed in the past decade. 5 k in AC has become a norm, with sketchy service, which is quite a change. Both of those areas combined involve less than a 1000 girls. So many other options are available in Phils, for less money.

The dividing issue is that there are limited options for the vacationing warrior, and Burgos / AC are the quickest and easiest ways to get satisfaction in the shortest time. That they are the most expensive options has not changed. As long as the Koreans are flooding AC, you will see the higher prices there. Factor in the death of EDSA and the loss of girls there, and prices go up. Those who have more time on their hands and are not worried about occasional failure / denial / rejection, will do better on prices. Guys who are on a time leash need a girl TONIGHT, and pay for the convenience.

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I fully agree with you. The PI is still a third world country where the average wage in a store or restaurant is 300 peso per day. That involves standing for 10 hours. The barrier to entry into sex work is not very high. So there is still exists an unlimited deep pool of pussy but Burgos street bars is not the place to find it. Nor is AC anymore, sadly. The true gems will be found either online or through normal channels. But that of course requires some more time on the ground, some game, and some confidence. I had my pick of beauties in Cebu that were total non pros and totally happy with 1000 to 1500 Peso gifts.

[WestCoast1]

The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.

Respectfully EA, that's a generalization. Those prices don't apply everywhere in Phils. 10 k for Burgos girls is the norm, which hasn't changed in the past decade. 5 k in AC has become a norm, with sketchy service, which is quite a change. Both of those areas combined involve less than a 1000 girls. So many other options are available in Phils, for less money.

The dividing issue is that there are limited options for the vacationing warrior, and Burgos / AC are the quickest and easiest ways to get satisfaction in the shortest time. That they are the most expensive options has not changed. As long as the Koreans are flooding AC, you will see the higher prices there. Factor in the death of EDSA and the loss of girls there, and prices go up. Those who have more time on their hands and are not worried about occasional failure / denial / rejection, will do better on prices. Guys who are on a time leash need a girl TONIGHT, and pay for the convenience.

BTW, I previously recommended all punters head directly to AC, as NCR was still insisting on covid rules in public places. That appears to have disappeared. You may go maskless almost anywhere now, and most hotels / condos have reverted their guest policy back to taking the ID of the girl and allowing her up. Get in there, get a week in both places, get some mocha flesh.

Hear, hear. Overpaying is for insecure guys. Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level. A good rule of thumb in any market is to pay 10 x the local price of a haircut for an ST. I see the haircuts now go for P 50-60 so we are already grossly overpaying at the P 1-1. 5 K level.

Have never heard that haircut thing before. Assuming that is a rule of thumb, where in Makati or Malate are you getting a haircut for p50? Street salons are at 150-300, and mall salons are 500 for a simple buzz cut. I routinely get my hair cut in the province for p150, and a mate chides me there because he gets it for p80.

Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level.

Concur. I find a higher percentage of star-fishing from high-priced guapas. Or additionally she has other requirements (time constraint, such as 1 pop or 1 hour), or must have a condom, or such.

Agreed. The market is getting overpriced.

Concur, the covid price jump in some places outmatched other inflationary price jumps. Nobody mentioned that during pandemic, prices mostly plummeted (read Beavis: Can of sardines) for those of us here. Now the floodgates opened to only a trickle of week-long warriors (see below, DOT), they are paying a premium. I think the premium has to do with an influx of money in the areas where the price jumped:

To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.

Mr. Big is Korean. While I rarely carry more than 10 K on me (from the ATM to my place, where I lock up half of it; 10 k lasts 4-5 days), they carry 50 K (or more) and dump it in a day. They exchange their K-won for pesos at the mall money changer, walking out with half a million or more pesos. I saw 3 of them walk out of a mall money changer with a combined p6+ million; it took them 15 minutes just to count it to their satisfaction before departing (just guessing that they contacted the mall money changer a day or so prior to let them know that they would later be changing LARGE). He's not playing Big, he IS Big. I am sure Napa has similar stories of the AC K's.

OTOH, DOT numbers (previously posted here) show that last year's visitors count was just under 1 million (Feb 2022 thru December 2022), versus 2019's 8+ million visitors. Its the gringos that are shying away. When they do show up, they are playing catch-up to Mr. K.

Yes, It is increasingly unattractive to plan just for our hobby now.

I agree. Thailand appears to be the call. Patts. Phils is a terrible place for the game. Leave the pinay alone for me and my handful of medical associates to vaccinate.

Pics of several lasses I've been having for some time, including the past few months.

[Nolz7]

Does anybody know a clinic to get a prescription for viagra in Ermita area? Or better yet, does anybody know a pharmacy that does not require prescription for viagra in Ermita. I'm visiting in two weeks. Thanks.

[Goferring]

Concur....Some guys go hung ho and throw money like crazy not knowing they can get better deal with less money.

We all were enamored when we came first time to Philippines for mongering. But things were dirt cheap at that time. People were poorer and seemingly normal girl had no choice but to work in bars and go with everyone to make a living..

I use to get bitter and twisted over newbies coming in, throwing money around, and spoiling the market. Now I realise it's actually a benefit as they attract the cuties and a critical mass of girls in one place who will still happily accept 1 k from a known resident or old contact when the Warrior has gone and the rent is due. While one girl may be busy with the newbie, there are always many others to choose from. Does anyone really get concerned because one girl isn't available??

In many ways nothing has changed. 30 years ago, PH was a remote, difficult and expensive place to get too. If the same effort is out into getting to less travelled provinces, then the same fresh, cheap and eager girls are available. Now, as then, they only seek a pittance, if anything at all, and will say thanks in all the right ways. It's only the areas withing reach of discount flights and wide eyes travellers that have been negatively affected.

When in doubt, go west young man!!

Enjoy. G.

[Sammon]

Its first time tourist raising these prices. I don't know how many girls text me some first time toursit from USA. Australia. Europe going bat shit crazy when they enter the bar. There is much more exposer now to our monger destination's online than there has ever been. Men watch this stuff and dream. Save up all year and get a 20 year old hottie on their lap and they go insane. You must remember allot of these guys never had women like that even when they were young. So yes they go ape shit crazy. Girls told me of a recent American, takes 3 girl's, tipped waitress 5000 and gave the girls 10 K each plus the barfines and drinks, and that was his first night! My friend said she gets 2 k to a 5 k tip on a regular basis and that's no barfine. Easy to say these newbie's need to calm down but when stuck in some pussy prison country, easier said than done.

Concur. Very few places in the world a guy will get a young girl cheap. Only in Philippines. This irrespective of looks, age, well dressed, smelling good. Even in USA a hooker has her standards. She will pick and choose who she goes out with if she is not a drug addict, ugly, over the hill. Some guys go hung ho and throw money like crazy not knowing they can get better deal with less money. We all were enamored when we came first time to Philippines for mongering. But things were dirt cheap at that time. People were poorer and seemingly normal girl had no choice but to work in bars and go with everyone to make a living. Now girls come to make lots of money with people bragging and spending like crazy. Downside is this creates inflation for everyone else. Leads to lap dance only, drinks only, no barfine, . When I first went to Philippines there was no tipping in the morning. Girls told me there is no need to give extra money. Now hands come out for tip.

[Locamotive]

Agreed. The market is getting overpriced. To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.

Its first time tourist raising these prices. I don't know how many girls text me some first time toursit from USA. Australia. Europe going bat shit crazy when they enter the bar. There is much more exposer now to our monger destination's online than there has ever been. Men watch this stuff and dream. Save up all year and get a 20 year old hottie on their lap and they go insane. You must remember allot of these guys never had women like that even when they were young. So yes they go ape shit crazy. Girls told me of a recent American, takes 3 girl's, tipped waitress 5000 and gave the girls 10 K each plus the barfines and drinks, and that was his first night! My friend said she gets 2 k to a 5 k tip on a regular basis and that's no barfine. Easy to say these newbie's need to calm down but when stuck in some pussy prison country, easier said than done.

[MrHappyKat]

Check out the website for pricing. It varies by girl. And it is ST. Also see FAQ for rules. BBBJ but not BBFS is the standard. And YES, very service oriented was my experience.

Because I do not see any info on BBBJ and / or BBFS. The closest info I see is this:

"Do your escorts provide GFE service?

Yes, they do, but remember that hygiene plays a key role in ensuring that you have a great time with our models. ".

Here is the link to the FAQ: https://manilacourtesans.com/faqs-2/.

Thanks for any additional info you have about them.

[CodeName47]

What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.

Yes, It is increasingly unattractive to plan just for our hobby now. I had been to cebu during May 2022. I had a few good memories (through social networking). But paid scene had gone downhill. I love travel, classic(jakarta indonesia) if I wish multiple point and shoot scene. Somehow I haven't had a good worthy punt at manila.

[Fastpiston]

What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.

Agreed. The market is getting overpriced. To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.

[Pute Nut]

What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

Hear, hear. Overpaying is for insecure guys. Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level. A good rule of thumb in any market is to pay 10 x the local price of a haircut for an ST. I see the haircuts now go for P 50-60 so we are already grossly overpaying at the P 1-1. 5 K level.