How easy is it to meet girls without paying anything? I don't necessary mean one night stand but maybe having multiple girls in rotation.
Is online dating the easiet way or is it better to approach people on public places?
It's pretty easy since it has happened to me on most of my trips, but not all of them as far as I remember. Sometimes online sometimes public places. I still have some girls I know and one or two maybe would still be ready for sex anytime. I never paid them anything. They have jobs for some money. Some or actually one won't do it anymore like she did when she was younger. That's what she said to me. If it is not a one night stand it might sometimes take some time though. And many of the girls from public places won't have sex with you, some were even virgins. Last time one girl from online suggested a hookup but asked for no money. She was hungry and I bought her Jollibee. The following day she messaged and wanted sex for money. A night for 3 k but I was tired and declined (she was 25 and decent body) and she was willing to go to even 1 k a night. But still declined. Once one girl needed to stay the night in Manila and I offered her my room. So it was sorf of free because room already paid and ended up in sex too.
This is not a girl not a chick and more DUDES like HIM are found in gay establishments not available on this forum you'll have to look else where. He has "has some Spanish mixed" into is penis. However I hope you are mistaken and just blue balled and or possibly clinically blind and just need clarification that you are looking to hook up with a man in that video, so be much more discerning in person if you are not purposely looking for men, whatever floats your boat its just against the TOS here. Just as a warning this is, AVOID that corner at all costs, the bar adjacent to "Mickey Color Lens" across from "Remedios Circle" his bar is right next to this store and in that same video (Philippine Christmas! Manila Nightlife Street Scenes! So Many Pretty Ladies!) at 0:39 seconds, he says in a undeniably manly voice "go upstair" If you are looking for ladyboy and ladyboy bars this is not the site for that. Thank you for illustrating why I do not like "latin" looking girls as they LOOK like ladyboys to me at least and I am not into men. Weird that you are asking where to find these when they show you the actual location in the video!
Heavy brow, strong jaw, broad shoulders, and manly wrists. He definitely has some Spanish mixed into his penis, as the unlucky monger who goes upstairs will find out.
I also continue to advise DM to simply hit the gogo bars on Burgos Street (not KTV's), as he is looking for straight point-and-shoot.
East asians (Koreas Chinese Japanese Cantonese) Still go to these places. BIG rip off. You pay a flat rate that has a 30% tax. Surcharge added on top of your over all bill. The girls are really cold and standoffish in these place not like the normal GFE we are accustomed to. They will let you grab a tit but act like it was something special. Everything in a KTV costs extra selection fee and VIP room ect. So you are not going to leav e this place without paying at like 2-4 k Plus if you are after sex takes place after hours and will cost another 10 k-15 k So you are looking at double burgos. And 4 x AC on the low end of these KTVs I gave up on the Mabini Street KTVs about 10 years ago. Worst thing that takes place is they mix in layboys into these bars its like rat shit in my free popcorn and you will sometimes be harassed by some dude in a dress. I also don't like that the vermin that hang outside these bars try to make a commission off you by leading you into the bar you decided to go into further inflating your bill. A lot of these girls work there as to avoid having sex for money(they eventually migrate to AC for 1/4th the price) and telling their boyfriends that bar fines and sex is not allowed. If these bars just straight up offered bar fines I think I might give them a shot again but as they are now still scams pass. The absolute least value for money in the philippines. NEVER a fun time for me, obviously made for someone but for the "sex" addict this is not it. In fact the last 2-3 barfines I had in AC were girls who moved from manila to AC that worked in these bars. The papa-sans that recruit girls from these places i think work at GENESIS CLUB last I heard?
To learn more t2 asia4 v on youtube gives a good run down of these places.
This is completely unnecessary. I did ask many questions recently but I have also written lengthy reports. If you check my posts from July, you will see many long ones. I will link one below.
I stand somewhat corrected. Of your 30-ish reports, back in August you asked a few Columbia questions, then posted 3 FR's from your Columbia trip. Following that, you asked questions in 23 continuous posts regarding Brazil and Phils. No solid FR's from your Brazil trip. From your questions of the Brazil gents, what did they get in return? What will those on the Phils threads get? We still don't have the link to they vid you mentioned. The board is rife with fellas who ask oodles of questions, then provide little or no input following their trip.
Or Westie DM could PM members and chat that way and ask all the questions? Just an idea.
As the only one who has had any input for the good DM was MM, I would suggest that DM follow WR's advice and ask his questions of the old guard members in Private Message.
I also continue to advise DM to simply hit the gogo bars on Burgos Street (not KTV's), as he is looking for straight point-and-shoot.
This is completely unnecessary. I did ask many questions recently but I have also written lengthy reports. If you check my posts from July, you will see many long ones. I will link one below.
Or Westie DM could PM members and chat that way and ask all the questions? Just an idea.
DMoscow: Do you provide any descriptive Field Reports, or do you just ask questions? DM started posting just this year, has 30+ posts, all questions. I'm worried that we might take time to help you, then you don't post up your experiences here (reading other fella's reports, BTW, is how you get answers to your questions). His past 7 posts:
This is completely unnecessary. I did ask many questions recently but I have also written lengthy reports. If you check my posts from July, you will see many long ones. I will link one below.
I've been reading this forum for a while in preparation to my first trip to Colombia. I think I read all the posts from this year and 2022. Thanks for all you contributions, my first week here was fire. Here is my experience, hoping my info can help out another person reading this in the future.
I am in my mid 30's, been to over 2 dozen countries (mostly European countries), speak conversational Spanish. Have mongered in Spain, Germany and Brazil.
As I have travelled a lot, I knew what I needed for this trip: burner phone, fee free ATM card and American condoms. For my past trips to Europe, I usually just pack a bag and go, but coming to South America, I have to be extra cautious. I have an iphone 14 with no sim card slot, this actually complicated things for me this time around. When I went to Brazil last year, I just pull out my sim card from my iphone 11 and put it in my old iphone 6 and that was my burner phone. Now I don't have a sim card for my old burner phone anymore. What a bummer. I also have a list of prepagos I wanted to fuck, chicas from IG, prepagos with good reviews on a Spanish forum, and several casas in centro and laureles.
DMoscow: Do you provide any descriptive Field Reports, or do you just ask questions? DM started posting just this year, has 30+ posts, all questions. I'm worried that we might take time to help you, then you don't post up your experiences here (reading other fella's reports, BTW, is how you get answers to your questions). His past 7 posts:
What are prices at this type of places (in photo)? This is a screengrab from a youtube vid. I am not a party person, I just want to pick a girl and have sex with her. The place in pic do they offer sex? Is that a brothel or do I have to buy them drinks and negociate with them?
So I saw this on a youtube vid, you might have seen it too. She works near JTV in Manila. Where in the Philippines do will I see more chicks like her? She looks Latina. I guess she has some Spanish mixed in?
Where is GPGUIA's template? I'd like to follow the format, but where do I write the girl's name so it's in the green box, not just text in the paragraph? Thanks.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you mean expect for Prime, you need to pay in full for one session and tell them your user name in order to receive discount onwards (with reviews written)?
Is this from the same video as before? It will be helpful DM if you can post the link. This pic appears to be from any of the KTV fishbowl type places. I don't have experience picking up there. Does anyone else?
DM it might be better for you to concentrate on the Burgos (Makati) gogo bars for point-n-shoot girlie nawty. Please see the Makati thread and RTTF.
What are prices at this type of places (in photo)? This is a screengrab from a youtube vid.
I am a seasoned monger but all of my trips have been in Latin America. I am thinking about heading to the Phillipines next time.
I am not a party person, I just want to pick a girl and have sex with her. The place in pic do they offer sex? Is that a brothel or do I have to buy them drinks and negociate with them?
So I saw this on a youtube vid, you might have seen it too. She works near JTV in Manila. Where in the Philippines do will I see more chicks like her? She looks Latina. I guess she has some Spanish mixed in?
This is not a girl not a chick and more DUDES like HIM are found in gay establishments not available on this forum you'll have to look else where. He has "has some Spanish mixed" into is penis. However I hope you are mistaken and just blue balled and or possibly clinically blind and just need clarification that you are looking to hook up with a man in that video, so be much more discerning in person if you are not purposely looking for men, whatever floats your boat its just against the TOS here. Just as a warning this is, AVOID that corner at all costs, the bar adjacent to "Mickey Color Lens" across from "Remedios Circle" his bar is right next to this store and in that same video (Philippine Christmas! Manila Nightlife Street Scenes! So Many Pretty Ladies!) at 0:39 seconds, he says in a undeniably manly voice "go upstair" If you are looking for ladyboy and ladyboy bars this is not the site for that. Thank you for illustrating why I do not like "latin" looking girls as they LOOK like ladyboys to me at least and I am not into men. Weird that you are asking where to find these when they show you the actual location in the video!
So I saw this on a youtube vid, you might have seen it too. She works near JTV in Manila. Where in the Philippines do will I see more chicks like her? She looks Latina. I guess she has some Spanish mixed in?
I think she has more than Spanish in the mix. I see girls like her occasionally, light skin and very little or no eye slant. I've met a few and when I ask are you from Philippines, yes sir, but my grandpa was a American service man. I think that's probably the case with most who look this way, a white westerner got in the gene pool somewhere. While she is cute the Asian eyes are what drive me crazy, the lighter skin is fine either way.
First off, thank you to all who helped me and answered my questions on this forum as I prepared for my trip and to all who have posted helpful reports. I could not have had as much success as I did without all your help.
This is going to be a long and detailed report, so TLDR I met girls from SA and had a blast with each one and took one with me to Boracay.
Although I stayed in a hotel in Makati, I am posting in the Manila forum as my experience could have been had anywhere in the Manila area, as I met girls only from SA and did not venture to P Burgos or any area specific to Makati (although I planned to visit P Burgos but was having too much fun with SA girl, so I scratched that plan).
Firstly the other dating sites. I also signed up for pinalove and filipinocupid, but did not meet any girls from those sites. A lot of the girls were, sorry to say, just not attractive enough for me. Also I was ignoring any profiles that were empty or near empty (just one or two sentences), had phone number in the profile or said "serious relationship only not for fun". That may have been a reason why I couldn't find any girls on those sites. There may have been some hot legit girls who were down for just fun among the ones I ignored. The few girls I did find extremely hot and met my profile requirements did not respond to my messages. I tried on those sites for a few days then gave up. There were just way too many profiles that did not interest me, and I use SA back home and am familiar with sugaring and just felt more comfortable using SA.
Now on to SA. As I mentioned in my previous posts, I was looking to have some fun in Manila then BYOG to Boracay, so I added "travel with you" to my "show members seeking" filter. I also added filters to "do not show members seeking" for "seeking transgender," and "seeking trans-friendly" (note I still got trans girls in my search, so be wary). I added some basic information about me and was up-front in my profile and stated that I was just looking for temporary fun and to find someone to go with me on a weekend getaway. About a week before my arrival I set my location to Makati and started going through profiles. I ignored profiles that were empty or near-empty, had only one photo, had only obviously filtered photos or had only "glam" photos and no "real" cellphone photos. I opened with a brief message that mentioned something from her profile to show I'm not just copy-pasting my messages and said that I would like to discuss arrangements outside of the site on whatsapp. I got a response from about half of the girls I messaged.
After moving to whatsapp I laid out my proposal. 3 k for first meet (coffee or drinks). If we move the meet to my hotel for a LT date another 4 k. Any additional LT dates 7 k each time. If she comes to Boracay with me (3 nights) then 35 k plus cost of travel. I specified that the 35 k would be given at the end of the trip as to protect myself from no-shows and bailers. Note that back home I never offer anything for first meet over coffee or drinks, as all of the SBs back home have cars and can drive themselves. I figured 3 K for just a meet would be enough to draw interest and an amount I would be okay with giving if things didn't proceed from there. It didn't matter in the end because no initial meet did not end up back in my hotel room, as I banged each girl I met. Also I know many of you will probably say I overpaid, but compared to sugaring back home it is just a fraction of the price. I wanted to make an offer that would get a lot of initial interest and was an amount I would be happy with.
From the messages I started blocking girls who either asked for money up front or asked if I wanted to buy pics / vids. One girl started giving me a sob story about family hospital bills, and although she didn't ask for money, my senses were telling me she would soon, so I told her I didn't think we would hit it off and blocked her. A couple girls told me up front that they would be unable to go with me to Boracay, but would still be open to meet up. I kept those girls in my back pocket.
Of the girls that were interested, some did not respond after first day of chatting. Of the ones that maintained contact, I started to talk in more detail about what I was looking for in arrangement. I mentioned that I liked BBBJ, DATY and bb sex. Those that did not want to do those I told them sorry it won't work out and ended communication. Of those that were okay with those, I requested a quick video chat. There was none who denied, so it was easy to verify all of the girls I was still chatting with were real and can speak English very well. At this point I was left with six potentials.
Day 1 - Girls 1 and 2.
Girl 1. Met at Starbucks. We met early afternoon, as I had planned to meet with another girl later that night. She was an hour and half late, but as previous posts in this thread had mentioned, this was expected and I prepared for that by choosing the Starbucks right across the street from my hotel. She was super cute and even better looking in person compared to our video chat. No extra fat on her and very attractive. We had a great chat, and she was very excited about the possibility of going to Boracay, as she said she has never been. It was time to see how we got along in the sack. I invited her up to my hotel room where we chatted a little more on the couch before things started to get handsy and soon we were making out. BBBJ on the couch before we moved to the bed where we had excellent sex. She tasted clean. She said she wasn't on birth control so asked me to finish outside so I obliged and decorated her stomach. First sex of the trip so I blew my load pretty quickly. But after a quick rinse in the shower and some chit chat while naked in the bed I was ready for round 2. Again great sex and this time I finished in doggy and decorated her back. She was very intimate and I had such great sex that I had a strong feeling that she would be hard to beat. But later that night I met girl #2.
Girl 2. Asked her to meet me at my hotel bar. This one was actually on time. This one was even more attractive than the first. We had a drink and I had a great chat with her as well. After we finished our drinks I was about to invite her up to my room, but before I could she asked if I wanted to have another drink at a different bar. That sounded like fun, so I agreed. She gave me the name of the place she wanted to go and I called a grab. We got to the bar and had a couple drinks. During this time she was getting more and more flirty and handsy. This was getting me aroused and at times causing me to get an erection that I was trying to hide as I didn't want other patrons of the bar seeing me walking around with a raging hard-on LOL. BTW I highly recommend cialis over viagra. At times I have difficulty getting it up when I go on sex marathons, and this was my first time using cialis. My friend told me how much better it is because you can just take it early in the day and you will be ready when it comes time, unlike viagra where you have to time it an hour before. Cialis worked like a charm. I took it a couple hours before meeting the first girl, and I was getting hard like a school boy 12 hours later even after having blown two loads earlier in the day. After a couple drinks we left and she led me around outside to get some late night street food. We then took a grab back to my hotel, where we showered together as I have been sweating buckets in the humid manila heat. Moved to the bed and had even better sex than the first girl. Even more intimate and more into it plus she was on birth control so let me cip. Took another quick shower and she asked if she could take a nap for a couple hours before she left. We went to sleep cuddled up and was awakened by her alarm a couple hours later. She said she was too sleepy and asked if she could just stay the rest of the night. Woke up in the morning and cuddled some more which led to hands roaming and I was hard again. Had a morning sex session, she washed up and left. There was a new front runner.
Day 2.
After Girl 2 left in the morning I did some sight seeing around Manila. After all I came for travel in addition to the girls. I don't like to be misleading, so I messaged Girl 1 to let her know that I met someone that I had a better connection with (although I lied and said I met her the day after instead of a few hours after she left LOL) and said I'm sorry but we probably won't be going to Boracay together. She said she understood. I also arranged another date with Girl 2 for the following day. She offered to spend the day with me and show me around Manila a bit. So we agree to a day date around the city then dinner. I had arranged a date with Girl 3 for the night but she messaged me to say that she was on her period, but that she was towards the end of it, so we postponed until Day 4. Girl 3 BTW is the only one who countered me and asked for more. She asked for 10 k each date and 40 k for the Boracay trip. This girl is insanely hot. She looked like a 10/10 absolute bombshell in her photos that I thought were too good to be true, but our video chat confirmed that she was real, and this was still far less than what I would pay for sugaring back home, so I agreed. After Girl 3 messaged to postpone, I tried messaging the two girls who I had been keeping in my back pocket who couldn't go with me for the weekend but still open to meet. One said she couldn't meet that night but the other was available. However the messages started to feel weird. She was way too eager in the messages with the "oh baby I can't wait to meet and fuck you" and "I can't wait to suck your dick". I tried to re-confirm with her the amount for the PPM, but each time I asked "so is 7 k good with you" instead of confirming she would just respond with "I want your cock so bad". I didn't like the way the conversation was going so I told her never mind and blocked her. It was late, so no sex this night.
Day 3.
Girl 2 again. Met at my hotel early afternoon, and she took me to a museum and we walked around SM MOA. When she suggested the mall I thought she would surely ask me to buy her something, but she just bought some stuff with her own money. After that dinner at a place I had been wanting to to go then back to my hotel for another round of great sex ending in cip. At this point I was pretty certain she is the one I'll be taking with me to Boracay as she was so fun to talk to and the sex has been fantastic. Only one round of sex but I was tired from all the walking around that day anyways. She said she couldn't meet the next two days as she had some stuff to do, so we agreed our next meet would be the day we leave for Boracay. This put me in a dilemma, as I had hoped the one I went with would meet up the day before the trip, so I can pay for the trip once I am certain of my choice, and I still hadn't met the insanely hot Girl 3. So I told Girl 2 that I wanted her to go with me, but I had hoped to meet the day before for me to buy the fights. She proposed instead that she buy the fights herself and that I just pay her back, which was the perfect solution. Again as I try to be honorable with the ladies I told her that I was meeting someone else the next day, so she told me to message her after my date to confirm. These girls probably already assume that men are seeing multiple girls anyways, so she didn't react negatively at all and was very understanding. At this point I thought Girls 4, 5 and 6 had virtually no chance of beating out Girl 2 as my time remaining in Manila was running short, so I let them know that sorry but I don't think it's happening. They were all very understanding.
Day 4.
I messaged Girl 3 to see what time she could meet up with me. While waiting her response I checked out a couple other museums. Girl 3 got back to me and said she was still on her period and didn't think she would be off it until the following day. At this point as much as it hurt me to give up on this bombshell, I told her that would be too late, and I will have to make a decision before then. She understood. But I still wanted to bang this girl badly I told her if she's open to just meeting for one PPM for the agreed upon 10 k I can see her the next day. She said she would get back to me. I never heard from her again. Meanwhile Girl 1 whom I have already told we were not going to Boracay together had been messaging me every day just to chat over whatsapp. So I figured maybe she just wants another PPM, so I asked if she wanted to meet up again just for a PPM. She said yes but that she wasn't going to be in the area until the next day. So we arranged to meet tomorrow instead. So then I reached out to the one back pocket girl I had remaining, and she was available. If she hadn't been available I probably would have ventured out to P Burgos, but backup girl met me at the hotel bar. Had a drink and yet another good chat before moving to my room. This one was the least attractive of the girls I've met, but still very attractive. The sex was yet again incredible. At this point I'm wondering is every girl in the Philippines very intimate and GFE or am I just getting lucky? This one was on birth control so I finished cip. A quick rinse in the shower, small talk in bed, then round 2 cip finish. She left and I slept like a baby.
Day 5.
I told Girl 2 we are good to go, so I told her the flight numbers of my departure and returning flights and she bought them and sent me a screenshot (came out to more than 9 k but less than 10 k). She told me she would be at my hotel 4 hours before flight time. She's been on time for our previous dates, so I wasn't too concerned about her showing up late and missing our flight. Spent my last full day in Manila checking out a few other places and eating at restaurants I had been wanting to go. After dinner Girl 1 arrived, and had another great time in the sack again but with no cip. She lives in a province about an hour away (2-3 hours by bus) so she said unfortunately could not stay for round 2. That was fine with me as the sex was so good anyways and she is so cute and pretty I felt like I got my money's worth. She left and I started to pack my things so I can be prepared to check out the next day.
Days 6-9.
I will keep this part just as a summary. Girl 2 arrived on time, I gave her 10 k for the flights and headed to the airport. The 3 nights in Boracay might be the best 3 night stretch of my life. Spending that time with a beautiful woman with plenty of sex at a resort with beautiful beaches and some fantastic snorkeling will be unforgettable. My suite came with a balcony hot tub and we made sure to have sex in that too. At the end gave her the agreed upon amount plus 5 k extra because she was everything I hoped for and more. We departed ways and she said if I'm ever in the Philippines again to give her a message. I don't know when I'll go back, but if I do I will definitely be reaching out to her.
I don't know if I just got lucky with the girls, but this was the best p4 p trip I've ever had. Sure I spent more than my trip to Thailand, but I literally had 100% of my sex encounters in the Philippines be with very attractive girls who all were very intimate and GFE. In Thailand I had some duds and some that were not as attractive. Compared to that I would gladly put up more again for what I had in the Philippines.
...There is no one location for 'this' or 'that' type of girl. There is no bar or area in Phils that has 'Latina-looking' ladies. There is nothing that stands out about this girl, except possibly she's a bit booby....
I beg to differ. While there are exceptions to the norm, the average Davaoena (tall and busty), Cebuana (shorter and homely) and Lyetenos (80 lb spinner) look decidedly different.
I'd agree it's difficult to find a bar etc that specialises in a "look". The options that spring to mind are that Asian KTVs etc cater to their own tastes so the girls there tend to fit that mold or the OP may also luck out and find a mamasan that recruits from a certain area where the girls fit his preferences.
Without being offending anyone, the pictured girl sets of my gaydar. If she is indeed a girl, ID agree again that her features are not hard to find in the usual meat markets.
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