Manila

[Goferring]

I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?

Sorry, I'm hopeless at remembering names.

Walking away from Makati Ave past Bottoms you have 3 bars side by side on the other side of the road. I had a double BJ in one of those. They were adamant that no FS available on site. Great BJ but the girls were not stunners. Maybe Rascals but don't quote me. Look for a glass booth off to the left as you enter the bar.

Continuing down past Ringside, on the other side of the road, opposite the Korean Church is a dark and dingy bar that offers FS behind curtains. Again the girls were nothing special looks wise.

Sorry I cant be more specific.

Enjoy. G.

[BaboyDave]

There are also the bars on Burgos that allow onsite BBBJ or even FS.

I'd agree that the "where to go" question is pretty irrelevant as regardless of where the girl is from, she will know of nearby ST hotels.

I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?

[Goferring]

I don't know of other on-premise options however any bar girl, FL or Casa girl will go to a short time hotel with no issues.

Enjoy Manila!

There are also the bars on Burgos that allow onsite BBBJ or even FS.

I'd agree that the "where to go" question is pretty irrelevant as regardless of where the girl is from, she will know of nearby ST hotels.

[BaboyDave]

I am a relative newbie to Manila but will be going there every other month starting this April. I will be living in a short term rental arranged by my firm so I cannot bring ladies there. While I am willing to learn what websites help you find in-calls, it does not sound like the escort websites are developed as in Singapore or the many BKK spas, BJ bars, and brothels are as easy to find in Manila. What I want is the ability to stop in somewhere, enjoy a couple big beers to start. I am happy to buy a girl drink and then take her to a back room like in Mexico City's Zona Rosa. Is this an option? I have seen reports of ghetto brothels like in Angeles side streets (under bridges). However, I would stand out way too much walking around trying to find such places. While a high end brothel would be a less regular treat, I am looking for a place with a girl and a private room where I can come and go in less than an hour. I know we cannot recommend places but would value any general information or pointing me to reviews of distinction where I can start developing potential regular haunts!

The thing about Manila is that is doesn't really have a Sauna or FKK setup that I'm aware of.

Basically to get on-site FS there are two options. Spas and KTVs, there are a few notable places that run both a SPA and a KTV at the same place those are Kremlin & Classmate in Quezon City in front of Fisher mall, Air force 1 and Flight 168 in Paranaque not too far from NAIA and there are a few more like this setup. The KTV part of the busibess will only be open at nights while the Spa will also run all day. The spa is a fishbowl, no beer, point and click, pick a chick fuck her for an hour and leave. The KTV is where things get really expensive, really beautiful girls on stage, buy them drinks, if it's your thing take them to a private room and sing with them. If you build enough of a rapport, some of them may fuck you in one of the adjacent spa rooms. These tend to become VERY expensive nights (between 10-20 k depending on how much everyone is drinking and how long the foreplay in the KTV takes, abd there's a catch as the longer the time in KTV, the better the chances she'll agree to join in the spa).

There are also many KTVs on Roxas blvd that mainly attract Filipinos. Girls will dance topless on stage, again youll pay for drinks and an hourly rate for every girl that joins your table. They do have private FKK rooms in which you can fuck a dancer on premise, those don't have beds but the staff are nice and will bring a couple of sofas together expecting a tip. I have found one of the sexiest girls I've been with in a KTV on Roxas. The mama initially quoted me 7 k for FS after already having a pretty large bill for drinks, I laughed at her face, we settled for 2. 5 k.

I don't know of other on-premise options however any bar girl, FL or Casa girl will go to a short time hotel with no issues.

Enjoy Manila!

[WestCoast1]

That's a good price. In my last trip to the Philippines in 2007 I paid $600 SFO - MNL return on Philippines Airlines and I thought that it was good then.

Time of year, and closeness to departure date when booking make the difference. Flying in / out of Phils in December / January during the Christmas holidays is most expensive (have had trouble finding under $1700 then). Flying in the off-peak times can easily find a number of airlines in the $600-$800 range, and that is when those ticket prices occurred. Your 2007 flight was a *long* time ago. Your SFO / LAX. MNL return nonstop is still around on PAL, but at considerably higher prices. You can still find those prices in the off-season with several of the PROC airlines. Previously, until a few years ago, flying PAL internationally was the bottom of the barrel -- service and food onboard was terrible, the aircraft were non-amenitied, and the checkin process was rough. Things have improved.

How would you rate your overall experiences flying airlines based in the PROC? Of the big 4 (Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan), I have heard the best things about Hainan, and more recently about China Southern. I have not heard such great things about Air China or China Eastern. There's also China Airlines by the way, which is based in the ROC (Taiwan).

Have flown China Eastern, Southern, and Air China. All appear to be more on the order of budget airlines. Aircraft appear to be low-amenitied. For example, on seatguru dot com, you will find those aircraft might not have a power connection for each seat for your device. Seat pitch (distance to the next seat in front of yours in inches, often 30 or 31 inches) and width will be the smallest possible. Compare with Korean Airlines 34" seat pitch for their A380 fleet, and overall better cabin service crews.

[Breadman]

Clear out your PM's.

Clear out your PM's.

[Transporter]

Transporter,

Call me old fashioned, but my preferred choice would be to go somewhere and meet the girl face to face, hence a bar or similar. However, that said, I'm absolutely willing to meet someone from the internet if tat would be an easier route to find high quality young girls.

Since you are familiar with LA Cafe, you can vary the times that you visit there, as different crowds work different shifts. When I use to go there, I use to prefer the "day shift" girls as many of these girls use to tell their families that they worked regular jobs, and work during normal day hours at LA Cafe. Weekend days sometimes you can find new ones that try out the scene for the first time (they come with friends and its the only time that their parents can watch their kid (s)).

Casa would also be a good place to go also. There are two types of casa, the first is boarding only and you go there to select and take out. The second is a bar that boards girls and you can go there and sit, talk, drink, and all the otherstuff and of course take out. These places exist all over, but you may need someone to show them to you when you first start. Although it may be the most expensive option, it will be the best time saving, just jump in a taxi local and tell him to take you to a casa (be specific in the range, say within 10 minutes). Some taxis know a lot of them, and some have no idea what you are talking about. Just keep trying taxis until you find a knowledgeable one. If you find a good driver, take his number, and you can hire him to be your on call personal driver. Keep in mind that all taxi drivers will want to tell you that they know of casa as they make a cut for bringing a customer to the casa.

Another option is havana cafe (action starts later in the evening, so don't go to early). It may not be as good as it was before they moved to greenbelt, but it is still interesting. It may be discouraging at first, as there are a lot of ladyboys there but you can use that to your advantage. They are there every night, and know a lot of people. Just be respectful, act innocent and take a table next to a friendly looking ladyboy. Have your meal and or drinks and start up a conversation with the ladyboy (s). Once they know you are looking for female company you are good to go. Be respectful, if you respect them, they will do the same. Make friends with them, and they can help you sort through the many choices there. I have many a times bought drinks and had fun talking to ladyboys at havana. You can even tip them to help you find acceptable female company there.

Being "old fashion" myself, my current prefered methods are facebook, wechat, and the business card (paper with name and number). Facebook, and wechat are self explanatory, but if you need more details you can pm me. The business card method depends on if you already have a local PI number you can have "fake" cards pre printed at home before you go. If not you can have them made for you all over PI, I use to go to quiapo and get them done, takes an hour. If you already have a local number you can have them done at home which is better as the selection and quality is a lot better, plus you can do research and make a really good fake. If not just a regular piece of paper with your name and number on it works great Make sure to have a few with you at all times. If you see a girl you like at working somewhere (my favorite), or at the mall, church, or at a club or anywhere, just slip her your paper. If she is interested she will text you, just be careful how many you hand out, as it will be difficult to remember who the girl was if you hand out a lot and she texts you the next day.

[Transporter]

I was chatting on DIA with a very attractive girl who tells me she works at kumo KTV bar remedios street in pasig, of course she invited me to partake of her and drinks in the VIP room and to please come. I have never been in one of these japanese KTV places before. Does anyone have experiences they want to share with me in forum or PM while I decide to do it or not. It sounds like it could be crazy expensive. But she looked so good. OMG.

I can see kuma KTV right from my condo window, however I cannot say that I have been in that exact KTV. I have been to quite a few KTV places in malate, but not kuma.

There are many different formats (pricing structures) of KTV's, and it differs from what is provided inside. The good thing is that you can just ask your girl, and she will tell you. If not you can do a precheck, and just go there unannounced. Just walk casually by, and stop and look in. Once you do that they will immediately try to get you to go in showing you pictures, of what they have to offer. You can ask them exactly what the cost is per hour and what you will receive. Although prices differ among all the KTV's, the one thing I know that is common is that they charge you by time (hour). So you can find out exactly how much it will cost you for 1 hour.

I cannot give you recent pricing, as the last time I was in a KTV in malate was 2018 and it was 600 per person per hour all you can drink. If you want to buy a girl a drink (to come sit with you) it was 350. But that was a straight forward KTV place that charged you by the hour and all drinks were included, and you did not have to buy any girl time. Some KTV's put the girl time charge into the hourly rate, so it will be higher (these places just rotate your company) and you need to watch the drinks being served at your table, as it adds up fast.

KTV joints are fun because they have super good looking girls there, but if you work out a deal to get the girl out she finishes work at 3 am or 4 am, its a long time to wait.

Keep in mind that these KTV's are modeled after Japan KTV's not China KTV's. So most of the girls do not go out (you can check with the senior girl there and she will tell you who will and won't go out). The KTV bars and the girls money are made from the drinks.

You might be able to get a feel for the girl you are chatting with, just tell her you have never been to a KTV before, and don't know anything about it and ask her how much money you should bring to spend 1 or 2 hours with her.

[Dg8787]

Got here and as usual the airport was a mess. I walked over to the yellow taxi line and it was 3 rows deep and no taxis in sight. Luckily the Resorts World bus was there. I went to the counter and asked if the bus was going to the Marriott. He said it leaves in 5 minutes. I was the only one in the bus. The driver dropped me off at the Marriott and I summoned a Grab.

No Grabs available. Besides that, it was giving a price of 377. I walked out to the street and saw someone getting out of a white taxi. I told him I was going to Ermita. Traffic was really bad, but despite that, the meter read 151 when I reached my hotel. I gave him 200. That is the cheapest I have ever paid. I don't know who mentioned that Resorts World shuttle years ago but it has really been a life saver lately.

I had written in the past about using the Resort World shuttle. I usually get off at the first stop which is Belmont Hotel. Sometimes there are taxis lined up there. During peak hours there are no taxis lined up. I tip the guard 50 pesos and he will run out to the main street and literally commander a taxi. I have seen him hop in a reluctant taxi and command him to the hotel.

BTW, I learned about the Resort World shuttle from other posters here.

[Transporter]

I am a relative newbie to Manila but will be going there every other month starting this April. I will be living in a short term rental arranged by my firm so I cannot bring ladies there. While I am willing to learn what websites help you find in-calls, it does not sound like the escort websites are developed as in Singapore or the many BKK spas, BJ bars, and brothels are as easy to find in Manila. What I want is the ability to stop in somewhere, enjoy a couple big beers to start. I am happy to buy a girl drink and then take her to a back room like in Mexico City's Zona Rosa. Is this an option? I have seen reports of ghetto brothels like in Angeles side streets (under bridges). However, I would stand out way too much walking around trying to find such places. While a high end brothel would be a less regular treat, I am looking for a place with a girl and a private room where I can come and go in less than an hour. I know we cannot recommend places but would value any general information or pointing me to reviews of distinction where I can start developing potential regular haunts!

Do you know the location of your apartmentment?

Will a spa work for you?

[The Cane]

Another flight on China Southern was $624, arriving Monday late morning.

How would you rate your overall experiences flying airlines based in the PROC? Of the big 4 (Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan), I have heard the best things about Hainan, and more recently about China Southern. I have not heard such great things about Air China or China Eastern. There's also China Airlines by the way, which is based in the ROC (Taiwan).

[Turgid]

.............. Another flight on China Southern was $624, arriving Monday late morning..................

That's a good price. In my last trip to the Philippines in 2007 I paid $600 SFO - MNL return on Philippines Airlines and I thought that it was good then.

[WestCoast1]

Got here and as usual the airport was a mess.

I have been arranging almost all of my inbound and outbound NAIA flights to land or depart on Sundays. Traffic is very light. Once I found an $877 USD flight on Korean Airlines across the pond, arriving Sunday late morning. Another flight on China Southern was $624, arriving Monday late morning. Given: $250 price difference; Sunday traffic good; Monday traffic bad; and better service and much better seat pitch on KAL, the no-brainer for me was KAL (could be different for other gents).

In fact I have been arranging all of my flights within Phils for Sundays. A trip might look like: Long-bow flight arrives NAIA on a Sunday, stay 2 weeks Manila. Depart for Butuan on a Sunday, stay 2 weeks Mindanao. End that leg by departing from Surigao on Sunday for Cebu. Stay 2 weeks in Cebu and depart on Sunday for Manila. Spend 1 week Manila and depart for home on a Sunday. Oh my, traveling to / from airports (esp Manila / Cebu) on Sunday is so much simpler considering troppik. Not only is traffic better in those cities, there seem to be plenty of taxi's.

Pamper yourself a bit.

[WestCoast1]

There are plenty of short term hotels where you can pay by the hour. SNIP Do a search for a Soho hotel in the area where you are hunting, they have a good reputation. There is one close to EDSA Entertainment in Pasay. I've never had the need to use a ST hotel so I can't provide much more info.

Also Eurohotel has a ST rate. And you might want to read back a few weeks ago some gents were talking about taking SW in the Divisoria / Quiapo area to ST places.

[Mr Enternational]

Got here and as usual the airport was a mess. I walked over to the yellow taxi line and it was 3 rows deep and no taxis in sight. Luckily the Resorts World bus was there. I went to the counter and asked if the bus was going to the Marriott. He said it leaves in 5 minutes. I was the only one in the bus. The driver dropped me off at the Marriott and I summoned a Grab.

No Grabs available. Besides that, it was giving a price of 377. I walked out to the street and saw someone getting out of a white taxi. I told him I was going to Ermita. Traffic was really bad, but despite that, the meter read 151 when I reached my hotel. I gave him 200. That is the cheapest I have ever paid. I don't know who mentioned that Resorts World shuttle years ago but it has really been a life saver lately.