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[Sammon]

Don't listen at all to the jaded mongers here. Get a decent hotel and conduct your business as planned. Meet the sister and family and decide for yourself. You really don't need any advice from this forum. This is cheap sex forum. Not conducive for LTR or loving marriages!

If things go well then go to Manila. There are decent hotels and areas in your price range.

What are you talking about? We are not jaded just mongers per se. We have been through all these feelings. We have met, fallen in love albeit short time not enough to commit. This forum is not cheap sex only forum. We do discuss lots of things other than sex.

We have enough experience to suggest tread with care. It is one thing to look to marry a girl from Philippines. At the same time this person should know all the facts. So far he has not met the girl and he is already talking about taking her to America. He is open to let the sister come with the girl for meeting. He is already on the hook for sending money. Does not matter his reason for it.

IMHO he should go meet the girl alone. If both hit it off then take one step at a time. Ofcourse girl will gladly accept the chance of going to America to better her life. As we all know the whole family will also benefit. Once in America which takes a long time nowadays there is no guarantee she will stay with him. Definitely for two years because of immigration laws but after who knows.

[CrazyMan]

Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends ......................... to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

Follow your heart. But listen to the brain from time to time as well. In the end you are the one talking to her and only you can determine what the feeling is.

All I can say is good luck and I hope it works out well!

CM.

Edit also as a counterweight to the all girls are out there to pluck you posts:

So I went to Tanzania in December for work. And had an African girl in Africa for the first time. A true pearl. We have continued whatsapping since then as I had a crust on her from the moment we went from our dinner to my room.

In the beginning she said I like you and want to see you again but you are to old for a relationship with me. She is very early 20s and I am mid 40s only one year younger than her father. But she wanted to continue talking because she felt I had treated her like a gentleman and respected her. She only goes with men irregularly when her shop is doing badly. She told me about how the men she goes with usually look down on her. Because she is African and they consider her cheap meat. The usual remarks she gets is that she is to black to be considered more than a fuck doll. And she hates that. She said the older the men and the richer the more they treat you like trash.

After about 10 days her internet was finished and I decided to spontaneously send her 8 euro to her M-pesa account. She upped internet, called me back and was truly pissed. She said: "why do men always think we need an ATM .... I am talking to you because I like you and want to know you better not because I want your money." Took me a day or so to make up on that. I am used to girls hitting me up for money from day one. Never ever had this reaction.

So around Christmas she told me that I was the most friendly man she ever talked with. Someone whom doesn't talk about sex. Doesn't ask for pussy photos. And doesn't send dick pics (she blocks all of those men and men that ask her to marry them, she has shown me all the requests she gets for that). I talk with her about normal life btw. What her dreams are and what she wants ..... very normal things ...... but according to her no man ever wants to talk with her about that (African, Arab or Muzungu). Also since Christmas we have been whatsapp calling every day and video calling sometimes as well.

At new years day she told me that she had changed her mind. She could now see us having a relationship and if I wanted to marriage. I actually got proposed by a girl. But hse wants to be in her country so she wants me to go there. She wants to build her business and then later she wants to take care of me when I am old (technically I am already). It is nice to actually hear these things from a poor girl whom has never had anything in life and had to fight for everything she has reached so far. She is very proud of herself. And now wants to add an older fat poor muzungu to her list of accomplishments strangely enough.

Basically what is most important to her is that I am kind and respectful. She is telling me honestly what she is up too. Sending me the marriage proposals as they come in from guys (some young and handsome) that she has never met (most of them). She has only slept with one other guy since and wants to not do it anymore until she is sure where she and me are going. She has by now agreed for me to send 8 euro twice a month to pay for the internet for all our voice calling, sometimes up to 3 hours .... and spontaneously send me 2 private photos as well.

So in short although I am hardened myself by many girls after money only. I have finally found an honest hard working one after over 25 years of looking. So it is possible. She has really touched me with her behaviour and I will try to make the best of it with her. Either that or she is the most clever girl I ever met and is playing a very clever game. But every day I get more convinced that she really just wants a man that treats her very nice and talks to her and most importantly ..... simply listens.

[Goferring]

You missed your chance. You could be a happily married monger and be supporting a trike driver as well.

Missed my chace with whom? ID put the importer ahead of the waitresses: she could probably afford to support me and a couple of trike drivers at the same time. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day.

What, did you pay for her a 5-year subscription? My internet is only 30 cents per day in PI. Live and learn.

[Dg8787]

Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.

I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.

Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.

Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.

I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

Don't listen at all to the jaded mongers here. Get a decent hotel and conduct your business as planned. Meet the sister and family and decide for yourself. You really don't need any advice from this forum. This is cheap sex forum. Not conducive for LTR or loving marriages!

If things go well then go to Manila. There are decent hotels and areas in your price range.

[SankarShetty]

Come to your Pinay sirens. Follow your dick. You need to be fked over. That is why you are here. You will be a senior member here in ten years and you see an dispense advice. You need to be led around, like a goat at Ramadan, and feel the steel blades slice into you. You are an extra Jesus, here to feed the multitude with your flesh and blood. You might enjoy the Crucifixion at San Fernando, if your wallet holds out that long.

If I send you my details, can you wire me 10,000 pesos in real money? I ask as if everyone else is going to get a piece of you, so should I.

This is one of the most hilarious replies I have seen in a long time. ROFL.

[PedroMorales]

She said those jobs were very sought after and the prettiest girls competed for them as they were exposed to many love struck Romeos and a sure ticket to a marriage and Visa..

You missed your chance. You could be a happily married monger and be supporting a trike driver as well.

[ViperF33]

Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.

I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.

I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.

Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.

Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.

I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

[Goferring]

Concur. I did one of the lovely girls that worked there some years ago. A real sexy fun one that represented the place well. Nice swimming pool and overall ambience.

A slight side story:

A buddy and I were sitting in the old pool bar area pre Tower 2 or what ever the new block is called. We struck up a conversation with a liquor importer. A bit older but still had her looks and very smart. We asked about the waitresses working at the bar. She said those jobs were very sought after and the prettiest girls competed for them as they were exposed to many love struck Romeos and a sure ticket to a marriage and Visa. Very pretty girls at the time.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

ViperF33.

Don't let them pxss on your parade.

Angeles City is much bigger than the bars. Foreigners only know of the bargirl areas. Filipinos know of the Filipino areas. ABC Hotel would send the wrong message for you. I suggest the Park Inn Radisson Clark Hotel for you. About US $100 a night. It is next to SM Clark Mall. Book it for a couple of nights to see if it works out for you. If it does then stay longer or you can move to other hotels. SM Mall has plenty of dining options and stores to walk around. You should get a good feel for her and decide what to do.

While in AC have her suggest things to do there. You will get an idea if she has been there or not.

Byw, Park Inn is close to the Dau bus station where she would arrive at. Short trike ride to the hotel.

[Mr Enternational]

I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City

Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.

My experiences and thoughts are much different than everybody elses. I have met several chicks in AC that are not hookers. And they came to the room. And we fucked. And all that other stuff that some seem to think good girls are not going to do. I mean the litmus test is easy. Chick expects money from you, then to me she is not a normal chick.

A few months back I was reading in a facebook group a guy in Pattaya asking how much he should give his girlfriend every month to stay with him. There were guys chiming in that they give their wife x amount or they give their girlfriend x amount. Then there were the smart guys that said if you have to give her money then she is not your fucking girlfriend. Eventually the guy reported back saying he had told her that he would give her like $300 per month or whatever and the chick told him to go fuck himself because that was not enough money. Easy test, was it not? No idea what would make this guy think a chick he was paying was his girlfriend.

A few years ago I reported on a normal chick in AC that came to the hotel, bought me dinner, fucked me well, and stayed until the next morning. Two years ago that same chick came to Pattaya on vacation with her own money and I picked her up from her hotel and took her sightseeeing.

I also find it funny that guys would suggest staying in a different area as if somehow if the chicks realize hookers exist on this planet then that will extinguish their interest in you. Hell, they will probably become even more interested in you. There is no reason to hide and act blind to what is going on in the city. Jump right into it. I have been with regular chicks that have wanted me to take them inside of hooker bars and discos to see what it is like. You are in the car with your girl and you drive past some hookers, you fucking point them out. You do not act like they are invisible.

People can coexist no matter their ocupation. I was in the Dominican Republic last month with a Venezuelan girlfriend (we did not go together; it was coincidence we were there at the same time) of mine that had never been there. We were in the area where all the hookers are. They were walking back and forth peacocking while we were drinking at a bar. She mentioned how pretty the Dominican chicks' hair is. I told her it was not their real hair. She swore it was so I stopped a random hooker that was walking by and asked how much she paid for her hair. She said $200. I said see, told ya. Then they went on to have a conversation and the hooker told her how most Dominicans with hair like that it is not their real hair. So who the hell cares if their are hookers around. Nobody! Stop being so damn ashamed for no reason.

The only red flag that I see is her suggesting you meet in another city whether it be AC or anywhere else. In my experience chicks want you to show up at their front door. They never offer to meet you in another city no matter how deep into the sticks they live. I would say that is usually done at the suggestion of the foreigner. Maybe some guys that ship chicks to the city they are in can chime in on this.

The only circumstances that you should invite that lady to your house in the USA are if she is paying her own way and she is able to get her own visa. Other than that, you leave the rides at the amusement park.

[D Cups]

Goferring's advice is sound, and I suggest you follow it. ABC is, as one respondent commented, an over-the-top pleasure palace designed for guys who want to spend time playing with hookers in Angeles, and its rooms and facilities are designed for this sole purpose. No "good" girl would want to be caught dead there, though I can tell you from extensive personal experience that hookers love the place. As also stated by others, the fact that your girl suggested Angeles as a meeting place should likely be construed as a red flag. The reputation of the place is well known throughout the Philippines and unless she's been spending her formative years in a convent, there's no possibility she would be unaware of this fact. I'the also caution you that two weeks is a grossly insufficient amount of time to decide on whether you've met a girl you want to bring back to the US. No one with zero in-country experience and who has never before met a girl should be making this kind of decision in so short a time. This is not Disneyland, she's not Snow White, and you are not her Prince, so disabuse yourself of fairytale fantasies. I know that sounds harsh, but in my almost two decades here I have watched more guys than I can count willingly dive headfirst into situations that did not turn out well.

If you must meet in Angeles, and want to avoid the more tawdry areas of town (and people), you might want to consider booking somewhere in Clark, which is at least somewhat removed from hooker central and may be more prone to attract "normal" people.

I don't mean to disparage Angeles. It's a great playground and I've enjoyed countless happy days there, most of them at the ABC Hotel. But Angeles is what it is and not, in my opinion a place to pursue a "serious" relationship.

GE.

Concur. I did one of the lovely girls that worked there some years ago. A real sexy fun one that represented the place well. Nice swimming pool and overall ambience.

[Sammon]

Hello,

I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.

Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.

I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?

This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.

Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.

Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.

Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.

I am sure the girl known about Angeles city and it's reputation. Definitely if she lives an hour and half bus ride. Do not know why she would want to meet you there rather than Manila.

Do not get all excited about bringing her to America the girl you still have not met. You might have chatted on cam but in person girls look different. Go slow and do not promise anything. I would suggest get to know her and make couple of more trips before you decide.

[BrizLad]

Hello,

I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.

Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.

I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?

This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.

Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.

Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.

Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.

I just assume you are having a dig at the forum members.

[Engine Driver]

Hello,

I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.

Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.

I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?.

In case you've been living in a cave for the past 13 months, we are in the middle of a pandemic, so how exactly are you going to get to the Philippines by March? Without going into the poor character of Filipinas and their families which others have discussed in detail, let me give you a few other points to think about.

1. If super rich countries like the US and the UK can't get the Wuhan virus under control, what chance does the Philippines, a dirt poor country have? Do you think they can vaccinate millions of people by March so that you can enter the country?

2. The borders are closed for tourists. Unless you have a diplomatic passport or own a business in the Philippines, mongers are not being welcomed.

3. Does your girlfriend have a passport? If not, there are a number of important documents which she must gather before applying. Poor Filipinas have a lot of trouble collecting the necessary paperwork. If she already has a passport, then more alarm bells should be ringing.

4. Does your girlfriend have a visa to the US? I assume she will be travelling on a tourist visa. Is the US Embassy in Manila currently processing tourist visas for girlfriends of mongers? Don't think they won't know your or her intentions.

5. Are you prepared to take all financial liability for your girl while she is in the US?

In my rich country, we only have 13 virus cases today, yet our Secretary of the Health Department (Federal) says no one will be travelling overseas until 2022. I think you should stick to cam shows with your girl and one-handed typing for the time being.