Manila

[Breadman]

There seems to be a pattern to the pimp using both WhatsApp and pinalove that a regular girl wouldn't do. Now that I'm aware of the connection I seen to spot it now on other chats. Such as asking for your name, asking for a recent photo to show, negotiating for services and time and the girl not knowing any of said negotiations upon arriving. Had a girl that came over early in the morning and got me at full energy and I pounded her hard, long and fast and when I was done she was almost running out the door. Minutes later WhatsApp messages are saying she wants to see me again. And on another occasion a girl and her friend had some issues performing the desired service completely with me and my wingman and only I paid my girl the fill amount. But that full amount was changed on WhatsApp with one single comment from me, lowered by 1000. The girl accepted the money and left. Hour later I get a WhatsApp message from her good friend asking how much I gave her friend. Now why wouldn't she just ask the friend? Because it wasn't the friend asking but the pimp wanting to know if what he was given was there correct amount.

I know it was the pimp, trust me on this. How do I know? Because the girl have me her cell number and I tried to find her on WhatsApp and couldn't. So I sent her a chat on pinalove and was she gave me her WhatsApp number which was a completely different cell number.

And to to it off, my wingman was upset with the situation that unfolded and sent his girl away. Both of our WhatsApp chats start going off from this girl. My wingman doesn't want to continue but in horny enough to take her on so say ok come to my room. She should know who she's taking too, my photo is on WhatsApp. Yet she goes back to my wingman's room. Pimp didn't know which guy wanted her and sent her to the wrong room. She comes in and later my buddy says his WhatsApp was still going off with her saying she was in the lobby even though he knew she was with me. Later we compared the times on WhatsApp and our line chats to confirm this.

To sun it up. Don't always assume that the girl on WhatsApp is really the same person that arrives in your room that you've been chatting with. An easy way to know if it's the same person send her a chat when she's in the room and if her phone doesn't beep then there's a good chance it wasn't her on WhatsApp you were dealing with. And if your using using your real number via WiFi then that number is known to the someone besides the girl your seeing.

[Breadman]

Most of my girls have been had over Pinalove so far, the chats are all pretty much the same with 'how much you give' and the like. Negotiate a price and they come over using whatsapp, sometimes only pinalove or a combination of both. So I'm repeating with this girl and only went with a BJ (long story of why only a BJ, suffice it to say she was nearby). Offered her a small amount and she accepted, upon entering the room negotiations upgraded it to full service. And as we are getting into the final stages she starts saying something like don't tell me on whatsapp and I'm clueless, thinking its a scam and she wants more money for sex. She then explains it to me after we are done. The pimp goes over the whatsapp chat to compare what they turn in and what's on the chat to see if what they turn in is what they've earned. She then goes onto hide the extra money for herself. Then it dawned on me that she'd ask for taxi money but not on whatsapp, guessing to pocket the money. Have to say this, most of my hobby has been spent in Germany and Thailand where the English is more broken compared to the Philippines. I'm not naive into thinking the hobby world doesn't have pimps in it, just wasn't expecting it to jump out and smack me across the face. I've read thousands upon thousands of pages on the Philippines and Asia in general and 'pimp' is hardly ever brought up. 120 times if I'm reading the search results for all of Asia did someone write pimp in their report.

In Thailand its well known that the girls are working to support their families and sending the money they earn back home. I'd much rather have my money going back home than into the pockets of a pimp.

[Dg8787]

I look up both the hotel site and the booking sites.

Then I decide which is better for me taking into all accounts.

That's all there is to it.

[Wicked Roger]

Depends on the hotel and whether you are a member. I always stay at the Hyatt if I can and they have a price guarantee to beat any advertised price.

Same for me with the 2 hotel groups I use a lot.

Can usually get better prices direct as a frequent user compared to the online sites but I still use at times. If only to compare process with the direct option.

[Kerrstar]

In too many cases it is more expensive to book direct with the hotel though.

Depends on the hotel and whether you are a member. I always stay at the Hyatt if I can and they have a price guarantee to beat any advertised price.

[Goferring]

In too many cases it is more expensive to book direct with the hotel though.

And you may miss out on the included breakfast, airport pick up etc.

Direct booking does give the widest choice though as the online aggregators are often only given an allotment of rooms with the remainder retained by the hotel to be sold by them through their sales department when online options are showing 'sold out'.

Cheers. G.

[Mr Enternational]

The big online booking corporations Expedia and Booking.com control lots of online inventory. Where possible avoid those behemoths. They are evil. Book direct to hotel where possible.

In too many cases it is more expensive to book direct with the hotel though.

[KilledSoul]

Difficult for a Canadian not resident in the USA to open bank account there.

I tried, not Schwab but many banks in Kansas City. Only place I could open a US account was in Grand Forks ND. I needed it because my US employer in Afghanistan would only make deposits directly to a US account.

Try opening a TD beyond checking account (you don't need to be US resident) and IIRC they also don't charge an ATM fee.

[Breadman]

It's a big city so I doubt it can be booked solid.

Which "website"? Which dates? Which part of Manila?

The big online booking corporations Expedia and Booking.com control lots of online inventory. Where possible avoid those behemoths. They are evil. Book direct to hotel where possible.

It was on Expedia and over a weekend a week and a half from now. I know that the Nana hotel on Bangkok can sell out over the weekend but never heard of an entire area of Makati.

[BrainDrain]

And on a side note my wingman ran into a hotel issue on the weekend that said all the hotels are booked solid. Is it that busy or just a website glitch?

It's a big city so I doubt it can be booked solid.

Which "website"? Which dates? Which part of Manila?

The big online booking corporations Expedia and Booking.com control lots of online inventory. Where possible avoid those behemoths. They are evil. Book direct to hotel where possible.

[Kabul Guy]

..... Spending money is not an issue. But taken for a ride is.

My feelings exactly.

[Sammon]

Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.

I do not like discussing price with dating site girls unless they ask first. IMHO those who discuss the price are not really interested in being with you. They are trying to find out if you are a big spender or if they can make make quick big bucks if they decide. I do not want such girls. I look for somebody who is really interested in staying with me. Sexwise I only find out in bed if she is good or not.

One pretty girl quoted 10000 pesos per day who had no real interest in staying with me. There are many girls in dating sites who are there not really looking for a mate or looking for meeting foreigners to make money. Some play games just as we are playing games with them. In spite agreed price, date etc when crunch time comes they back out.

Generally I give 2500 per day. If I like the girl I would take her shopping, take her to tourism destinations. Spending money is not an issue. But taken for a ride is.

[Goferring]

Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.

WR is correct. 3 k is the standard LT rate for any online girl who isn't a Princess.

If you are in town and can't get laid for that amount, give up and join a monastery. 😁 Until then, get numbers online but don't worry about rates or dates to meet. That's done upon arrival.

Enjoy. G.

[Breadman]

Things will change when your boots (sandals) are on the ground there. Girls make a hard distinction between "I'm coming there" (time distance to arrival irrelevant) and "I am here now". Prices might drop upon arrival, and then drastically during negotiations.

I do get the impression that there are loads of scammers on pinalove. Get a WhatsApp number from a girl and it's the number from one that asked for load for her cell phone so she could video chat. Then another who comes out and says 8000 for an hour, later I see her photos on smooci and she's an independent asking 8000 for two hours. Correct me if I'm wrong but the GoGo girls are wanting 4 k or so for the night. And I get to meet them in person. Why would I pay more for a girl with photos?

And on a side note my wingman ran into a hotel issue on the weekend that said all the hotels are booked solid. Is it that busy or just a website glitch?

[PedroMorales]

Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.

I was quoted $100 USD (about 5000 PHP) on Locanoto. The US $ is the first sign as that is not the currency of the Philippines. I would expect to get 5 good bonks there for that. But that is capitalism for you. They smell easy money. Why pay hookers and bell boys over the odds and not durian squeezers and so on? In hotels, those on the breakfast shift get small tips but toothless Pinay hookers think it is it Klondyke without the frost bite. Yet foolk marry them.