Manila

[X Man]

Good info and advice FF. I think I would have been plenty pissed if an uncle had shown up as well. Nevertheless, I would have been a nice guy, maybe bought all of us a cheap lunch or coffee, and then tried to excuse myself. Uncle would probably have vetted me and then it's like taking candy from a baby. Maybe. LOL.

Free2, please mellow out a little. Not only are you going to give yourself a heart attack, you're screwing things up for the guys who come after you. No wait, that isn't true! Any guy coming after you will look like Prince Charming.

I once spent a good part of a day meeting the whole clan of a gal in Davao. I finally grew fed up and said I had to go pick up my laundry. Which was true. She insisted on helping me. Well, the laundry bag wasn't heavy, so I didn't need help. But she sure helped me take the edge off once we got back to my room. Those of you who still remember the original "plaid bell bottom" photo will have seen her cute little snatch. X.

I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.

The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.

She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.

What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.

That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.

P250 or sex and you chose the first option.

Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.

[Revolt]

How long is the layover and what is the time frame? In the past people have recommended Air Force One. They have a web page.

6 hr layover. I found a few online agencies but not sure if they are reliable though. I don't want to go to Air Force One and take too much time hunting. Do you have to pay a fee if you take them to your hotel? I guess I'll keep looking.

Thanks guys!

[Wicked Roger]

I just got back from cebu and hated it. Its just an awful city for a quick P4P trip imo, if you are going to spend some time there then you will get some great GFE that is for sure (just try to let them know you are only there for a short while and not looking for a wife imo)

Also) and in a short trip you MIGHT be able to do the same, but I don't think you want to take a trip on a maybe.

That said there are some lookers at the mango girly bars so if you strike out elsewhere you can always go there, but I've been to the same cities as you listed and a few others and cebu was my least favorite, and by far my least favorite for P4P.

Agreed PFG as Cebu like many other places (and many pinays) takes patience. If you just want a quick bang for your buck stay AC as even the fugliest guy can get laid there LOL.

IMHO I love Cebu, never have any issues always fun and lots of college girls never bar girls etc. But I have more time and lots more patience as some members who know will attest.

So if if are there for 2 days and want an AC type experience, don't come (it is OK as leaves more for me and others LOL) but if you want GFE, nice girls and have patience etc then visit Cebu but don't expect an AC experience.

Some of the better looking bar girls work at mainly Korean run places. I know a few and they tend to focus on them as pay high, very fast and very small (same old story as told before) but like to see nice respectful westerners (like me) when they can.

[FreebieFan]

Day 2 in Manila.

Do my shopping at Robinson's, get some water, nuts, and a couple blue pills (for the heck of it). Get my Phils sim card (40 pesos and 500 load) and text 2 manila area girls with the new number. I don't dare text more than that, or else I will have waaaay to much, more than I can handle. These little pests constantly badger you once they have your number and I don't want to juggle more than I need to. They have a habit of showing up at the hotel unannounced once they know where you are as well. Girl A is in Las Pinas and wants me to go there. She also has a job interview today. No damn way. Why should I inconvenience myself?

Quickly move on to girl B. Girl B is in Quezon City and is willing to come to Ermita and meet me now. Okay good, if I hate her I will send her packing and still have time to meet up with someone else for dinner / evening fun. She does not want to take LRT or bus (my suggestion) and begs for taxi money. Seeing as how it is 1pm, traffic ain't so bad so I agree that I will pay the taxi with instructions to go straight to the hotel. I also instruct her to make sure the driver uses the meter, because if he knows a foreigner is picking up the bill on the other end, who knows how much it would be. In the ensuing 2 hours she called me 6x (didn't answer) and texted me with all the customary questions that were completely covered online many weeks ago (are you married, how old are you, etc). Geeez, don't you keep notes like us guys do?

3:30pm.

Shows up at the hotel in the taxi, I go around to the drivers window and pay. The meter says 245, gave him 300. I notice a man standing at the back door of the taxi, on the passenger side and he is not wearing hotel concierge uniform. I am wondering who that is talking to the girl in the back seat. She hops out, walks up and announces that her uncle is here! She brought her FUCKING UNCLE along! I am like WTF? Anyways, to keep things moving smoothly, I brush it off and start towards the hotel entrance. She is just the kind I like, cute, short and skinny. I also notice she has huge buckteeth and high upper gums when smiling, which did not come through on the Tagged pics. Yikes.

She asks if her uncle can come with us. Are you kidding me? What the hell is this? Like I really want to go to my hotel room and snuggle with her uncle and her. I say no and keep walking. If she is too scared or offended, well I will go to my room alone. I did not want to upset the applecart just yet but this was not going as planned. I don't look back as we walk through the hotel doors, but I can feel the uncle's eyes on me.

Once in the room, we start chatting. I ask about the uncle, doesn't he have a job today? He is a bouncer in a bar so he is not working in the afternoon and he wanted to come so she is safe. She had taken a day off from her caregiving job to see me. I am pissed and I ask why she didn't ask me or tell me her uncle is coming. She says she knew I would be upset (right!).

As we sit there, the uncle texts her to say he can go home but has no money for taxi. So I am expected to pony up for this dude to go home. Not cool. I put together 270 pesos and tell her to take it and go home with her uncle and we will talk another day.

Wow, it was as if I had just killed a puppy. She would not get up and put her shoes on. I finally had to say it 4 times, Ok, shoes, let's go, before she got up. Who cares little dumbass, learn from your mistakes and don't treat us foreigners like *es and money trees. I escort her down as she is making me promise a 100 times that we will meet again. I have a smoke outside as she and the uncle engage in heated discussion out of earshot. I finish my smoke and head upstairs, fully expecting her to show up again with the uncle going home. If that happens that little girl will be on the street on her bony little ass. Fortunately for her, she texts me saying how sorry she was and she will never do it again. I hope not! Total damage 570ph and I got a girl in the bag for when I want. Always great to have those reserves, you never know when you will need them.

I text Girl A (who had gone quiet) saying it would be better if she came to Ermita. Her job interview is over and yes she will come and yes she will take jeepney and LRT. Will I pay for transpo? Of course I will! Things are looking better. I love it when it happens so easy. If she brings along an uncle or friend, she will get the same treatment! This one is not phoning me (I hate it when they phone) and just sends little nice texts with no big drama questions.

I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.

The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.

She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.

What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.

That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.

P250 or sex and you chose the first option.

Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.

[Free2]

Day 2 in Manila.

Do my shopping at Robinson's, get some water, nuts, and a couple blue pills (for the heck of it). Get my Phils sim card (40 pesos and 500 load) and text 2 manila area girls with the new number. I don't dare text more than that, or else I will have waaaay to much, more than I can handle. These little pests constantly badger you once they have your number and I don't want to juggle more than I need to. They have a habit of showing up at the hotel unannounced once they know where you are as well. Girl A is in Las Pinas and wants me to go there. She also has a job interview today. No damn way. Why should I inconvenience myself?

Quickly move on to girl B. Girl B is in Quezon City and is willing to come to Ermita and meet me now. Okay good, if I hate her I will send her packing and still have time to meet up with someone else for dinner / evening fun. She does not want to take LRT or bus (my suggestion) and begs for taxi money. Seeing as how it is 1pm, traffic ain't so bad so I agree that I will pay the taxi with instructions to go straight to the hotel. I also instruct her to make sure the driver uses the meter, because if he knows a foreigner is picking up the bill on the other end, who knows how much it would be. In the ensuing 2 hours she called me 6x (didn't answer) and texted me with all the customary questions that were completely covered online many weeks ago (are you married, how old are you, etc). Geeez, don't you keep notes like us guys do?

3:30pm.

Shows up at the hotel in the taxi, I go around to the drivers window and pay. The meter says 245, gave him 300. I notice a man standing at the back door of the taxi, on the passenger side and he is not wearing hotel concierge uniform. I am wondering who that is talking to the girl in the back seat. She hops out, walks up and announces that her uncle is here! She brought her FUCKING UNCLE along! I am like WTF? Anyways, to keep things moving smoothly, I brush it off and start towards the hotel entrance. She is just the kind I like, cute, short and skinny. I also notice she has huge buckteeth and high upper gums when smiling, which did not come through on the Tagged pics. Yikes.

She asks if her uncle can come with us. Are you kidding me? What the hell is this? Like I really want to go to my hotel room and snuggle with her uncle and her. I say no and keep walking. If she is too scared or offended, well I will go to my room alone. I did not want to upset the applecart just yet but this was not going as planned. I don't look back as we walk through the hotel doors, but I can feel the uncle's eyes on me.

Once in the room, we start chatting. I ask about the uncle, doesn't he have a job today? He is a bouncer in a bar so he is not working in the afternoon and he wanted to come so she is safe. She had taken a day off from her caregiving job to see me. I am pissed and I ask why she didn't ask me or tell me her uncle is coming. She says she knew I would be upset (right!).

As we sit there, the uncle texts her to say he can go home but has no money for taxi. So I am expected to pony up for this dude to go home. Not cool. I put together 270 pesos and tell her to take it and go home with her uncle and we will talk another day.

Wow, it was as if I had just killed a puppy. She would not get up and put her shoes on. I finally had to say it 4 times, Ok, shoes, let's go, before she got up. Who cares little dumbass, learn from your mistakes and don't treat us foreigners like *******es and money trees. I escort her down as she is making me promise a 100 times that we will meet again. I have a smoke outside as she and the uncle engage in heated discussion out of earshot. I finish my smoke and head upstairs, fully expecting her to show up again with the uncle going home. If that happens that little girl will be on the street on her bony little ass. Fortunately for her, she texts me saying how sorry she was and she will never do it again. I hope not! Total damage 570ph and I got a girl in the bag for when I want. Always great to have those reserves, you never know when you will need them.

I text Girl A (who had gone quiet) saying it would be better if she came to Ermita. Her job interview is over and yes she will come and yes she will take jeepney and LRT. Will I pay for transpo? Of course I will! Things are looking better. I love it when it happens so easy. If she brings along an uncle or friend, she will get the same treatment! This one is not phoning me (I hate it when they phone) and just sends little nice texts with no big drama questions.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Hey Socker,

So I take it that you didn't have a good time in Cebu? Would you personally recommend it? I've been to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya, Bangkok and many more places several several several times but never Cebu and I was thinking about it. I'm a fairly attractive dude in my early 30's that enjoys GFE. Thanks for your insight and report brother!

I just got back from cebu and hated it. Its just an awful city for a quick P4P trip imo, if you are going to spend some time there then you will get some great GFE that is for sure (just try to let them know you are only there for a short while and not looking for a wife imo)

But I agree completely with what he said, the koreans have totally spoiled the P4P market, you will likely go to j ave and the hottest girls in the place will assume you arent willing to pay and ignore you while they party with the koreans.

I think it could be a great place to live and play the long game in, you could build up quite a stable of friends with benefits being a young white guy (which I am also) and in a short trip you MIGHT be able to do the same, but I don't think you want to take a trip on a maybe.

That said there are some lookers at the mango girly bars so if you strike out elsewhere you can always go there, but I've been to the same cities as you listed and a few others and cebu was my least favorite, and by far my least favorite for P4P.

[X Man]

How long is the layover and what is the time frame? In the past people have recommended Air Force One. They have a web page.

I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.

[Wicked Roger]

I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.

Yes, I do so do many who regularly post on this thread. I would suggest you RTFF as there is a wealth of information to help with your concerns etc. Also I noticed you have asked similar questions on other threads in the past so generally there is a give and take on the board that I and others have written about and the taking comes from the initial giving.

[Revolt]

I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.

[D Cups]

Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at.

Try agoda. Com and then read West Coast's post and the forum to see if you want to stay in Malate or Makati. If you only have one night and not on a budget I'd go with Makati.

[Luvtwospa]

Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all

Hi HK,

Since you only have 1 night. Your primary focus should be Havana. I would recommend staying at Raffles or New World, Shangri La is nice but a slightly father walk back from Havana. If you want to, go to P. Burgos around 9pm just so you can say you went, see a few clubs have a few expensive drinks and leave before you have to buy too many lady drinks. Get a taxi back to Havana by 1030 at the latest. Go inside to the bar, order a drink, have fun. I prefer to have girls meet me at my hotel room in 10 minutes (front desk will call your room) rather than walk them back but that is just my style since I travel with co-workers. ST 1500. 2000 (depending on looks and negotiation). LT no more than 3000.

L2S

[WestCoast1]

Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all

Which action? Makati (Havana Cafe, P Burgos street) , or Malate (LAC / G-Point / EDSA)? They are not close to each other.

You are asking a lot of hotel questions for a newb on multiple threads. Knock it off, RTTF, and send PM's to the gents you have questions for. Once you spend time there, write us up some detailed Field Reports about your experiences: girls, hotels, restaurants, nightlife, taxis, etc.

[YG365]

Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all

Why not RTFF in the Manila Hotel Thread? Well anyways, why don't you stay at the Hyatt Regency? It's a 5 star hotel in a pretty good location. Or what about the Shangri-La? Another 5 star hotel in a good location.

Good luck,

YG

[HimKoi]

Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all

[YG365]

Likemflat, Your info here will help me much when I work the Manila action for the first time come this May. I especially like your info regarding the finer babes in Manila. This is where my game plan always breaks down. I have been to Cebu a few times and there are some real fine ones working the Mango Bars but they just play me for drinks. I have taken one or two back to the hotel and they will just quit on me as soon as we get started. I have brought more than one back to the bar and there is no manager so no refund or credit. It is really fucked.

At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored. Then if I do get action I am played for a sucker (which I do very well on occasion) buying drinks and getting led on...

Hey Socker,

So I take it that you didn't have a good time in Cebu? Would you personally recommend it? I've been to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya, Bangkok and many more places several several several times but never Cebu and I was thinking about it. I'm a fairly attractive dude in my early 30's that enjoys GFE. Thanks for your insight and report brother!

Well. It's been awhile since I've been to Manila. Maybe a year? I usually enjoy MBC but it can be rough at times. Although there's about 50-80 girls, I wouldn't touch most of them with a stick LOL. Although I've found my share of diamonds in a pool full of toads, I usually settle for average girls who I think will offer me great service. The last girl I got, was pretty awful LOL. So shoot that theory down the drain. She tried to hide the fact that she was on her period, wanted to leave early because of her husband and I felt the service didn't justify the cost. I think the girls will go from 1500-3500 here. They usually start off at 3500 but they're pretty much expecting you to counter their offer. If you don't, they'll smell a sucker and take advantage of you all night long! Oh and during the day, I've actually found some young ones who are college students looking to make a quick buck without telling noone. #JackPot.

Although Burgos Street is hella expensive, I sometimes don't mind the price tag. I believe every girl I ever took out from this area has been amazing both looks and service wise! My memory is foggy but I think it runs for like 3-5000 pesos? Going to need a cross check from a vet on the prices.

At EDSA, I tried one girl and I didn't really enjoy so I've never gone back. The one girl I took seemed Hard, Cold and Jaded. If anyone can share positive GFExperiences, maybe I'll give this place another shot.

Maybe I should go back to Manila for a bit? Any thoughts fellas? I'm heavily leaning towards going to AC straight but I've done that the last 3 or 4 times LOL.

Good luck man and enjoy,

YG