Manila

[Zippos]

That's one hazard of doing business with them. Some even asks for advance right! I don't mind as long as "bag of Potatoes" rules applies.

You said your general hunting ground is Tinder? Got to try that out definitely. Let's see how my PL catches turns out.

If a girl starts quoting prices for her time, she's immediately off my list. I'm sure they all expect a "gift" at the end of our time together, and I do like to surprise her with one, but I personally find the overt P4 P mentality to be a turnoff.

RG.

[Zippos]

Hahahha. Get your point RG, I have been pretty lucky though with single mom. In fact that Rambo wife had tighter Pussy compared to the non-pro I had maybe her rubber fist was extra large. I like their submissive attitude and the desperation to please.

Will have both for sure.

I won't bother with the single moms. Too much baggage, usually stretch marks, and looser pussy. I don't expect a virgin, but she's got to be fresh and tight. Otherwise, I'd be chasing those old worn out skanks here in the US.

RG.

[Radical Guy]

Definitely not a bad deal. I had fixed 9 k to my spinner for 10 days but she was cooking too, some amazing dishes. As usual I got tired of same pussy after 5 days so sent her on her way with said amount and called up my shrimp.

In bonus, I spent 24 hrs with my spinner on my last April trip and only got her some gifts for her birthday, maybe 3/4 K but she had fixed her cousin (another gem of my liking) and her friend too. Can't complain.

Thanks for the tip on price point. Help sets a line on the floating bar.

If a girl starts quoting prices for her time, she's immediately off my list. I'm sure they all expect a "gift" at the end of our time together, and I do like to surprise her with one, but I personally find the overt P4 P mentality to be a turnoff.

RG.

[Radical Guy]

Now this definitely makes sense and reason behind the desperation. I would say, a good 60% of PL if not more are single mom and pretty easy catch. Bottom line all wants to go abroad and pretty desperate to convince. Some even start talking about marriage. Some of them are real eye candy tbh.

Hooked some from Davao stock and ready to come to Manila to meet me. Let's see how many sticks around until I make it down there. One thing I must admit, the are very desperate to flee Philippines, remind me of Cuba.

On a side note, found 2 non pro single no kids for the province. Need to start sorting my list to fit maximum to the schedule. Let see how everything plans out.

I won't bother with the single moms. Too much baggage, usually stretch marks, and looser pussy. I don't expect a virgin, but she's got to be fresh and tight. Otherwise, I'd be chasing those old worn out skanks here in the US.

RG.

[Zippos]

Forgot to tell you. While fishing on PL, I caught a shark.

Pina living in Manhattan, working as a Financial Advisor and what to meet me. I was like WTF. Where did this comes from! I like meeting them in their country, definitely not on my side of the world. They change completely once they crossed Atlantic Pacific or Arctic.

I might as well hire RG as a divorce attorney as this is one case meant to happen. GMBC.

Looks like I need to sharpen my negotiation skills. I thought 10 k / week was pretty good but it seems others are getting much better pricing.

To be fair, mine are typically more professional. No judgement but I typically don't chase good girls as I don't want to deal with unsolicited messages, calls or FB connections when I return home. I'm a nice guy but always crystal clear that this is not a BF / GF situation.

Enjoy. G.

[Coca Cvs]

Looks like I need to sharpen my negotiation skills. I thought 10 k / week was pretty good but it seems others are getting much better pricing.

To be fair, mine are typically more professional. No judgement but I typically don't chase good girls as I don't want to deal with unsolicited messages, calls or FB connections when I return home. I'm a nice guy but always crystal clear that this is not a BF / GF situation.

Enjoy. G.

Can also recommend this route. If you find a girl that is good domestically, it's a great deal getting things done around the place you are renting out. (laundry, cleaning, cooking). Just need to draw the line it's temporary.

[Zippos]

Hahahha. Get your point. I simply just don't share social media accounts with them. Once simple answer. " I had bad experience with my ex and I will share with you once we know each other for long time" usually conversations ends there.

One thing I forgot to mention from your previous post, "why they always go for the most expensive dish at the restaurant and orders twice than they can eat and where on gods name they stuff all those food" not that I mind or care but I was shockingly mesmerized seeing a baby back ribs plus deep fried shrimp plus half of my deep fried fish disappearing in that skeleton. I wish I had some skills like that.

Looks like I need to sharpen my negotiation skills. I thought 10 k / week was pretty good but it seems others are getting much better pricing.

To be fair, mine are typically more professional. No judgement but I typically don't chase good girls as I don't want to deal with unsolicited messages, calls or FB connections when I return home. I'm a nice guy but always crystal clear that this is not a BF / GF situation.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Definitely not a bad deal. I had fixed 9 k to my spinner for 10 days but she was cooking too, some amazing dishes..

Looks like I need to sharpen my negotiation skills. I thought 10 k / week was pretty good but it seems others are getting much better pricing.

To be fair, mine are typically more professional. No judgement but I typically don't chase good girls as I don't want to deal with unsolicited messages, calls or FB connections when I return home. I'm a nice guy but always crystal clear that this is not a BF / GF situation.

Enjoy. G.

[TjBrazil]

This mamasan in the black dress is smoking. I give her a solid 9. Any of you guys ever pull her out of this place.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KSfg_dljKEA

[TjBrazil]

Anyone know the name of this KTV bar by the inside setup:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tRiGpmdyevE

[Zippos]

Now this definitely makes sense and reason behind the desperation. I would say, a good 60% of PL if not more are single mom and pretty easy catch. Bottom line all wants to go abroad and pretty desperate to convince. Some even start talking about marriage. Some of them are real eye candy tbh.

Hooked some from Davao stock and ready to come to Manila to meet me. Let's see how many sticks around until I make it down there. One thing I must admit, the are very desperate to flee Philippines, remind me of Cuba.

On a side note, found 2 non pro single no kids for the province. Need to start sorting my list to fit maximum to the schedule. Let see how everything plans out.

Sorry, just saw your post.

Yes, it's exceedingly common for boy meets girl then moves on to another when she gets preggo. Add in religious influences on attitudes to contraception and abortion and it's not surprising to have so many single moms. Many of these girls are shunned by local guys so see latching on the a foreigner as their only option.

I've had plenty of platonic dates with girls. Either fact finding missions, to ease her concerns that I'm not a psycho, or I've simply enjoyed her company. Having said that, I've got no tolerance for paying 300 p, to drinks only girls, only to hear "Where you from? Where you stay? When you go home?

Enjoy. G.

[Zippos]

Thanks G on the price point. I don't think I'm going to take anyone for long term, possibly 3 days at max. Then switch place and another one. And definitely not going to take a WG for long term. Tried that once in Samui. Never again.

I don't know RG or his girl so no comment on them. However, when holidaying with a girl, expect to pay many multiples of cost to fuck on meals, bikinis, activities etc. I was flamed heavily for saying it costs more to feed a girl than fuck her but it's pretty accurate, especially in tourist areas.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. To answer your specific question, I pay the equivalent of one ST per day for a XLT. That's 24/7 for several days or occasionally weeks.

Be careful what you ask for. There are downsides to committing to a working girl for long periods or taking her out of town.

Good luck. G.

[Zippos]

Definitely not a bad deal. I had fixed 9 k to my spinner for 10 days but she was cooking too, some amazing dishes. As usual I got tired of same pussy after 5 days so sent her on her way with said amount and called up my shrimp.

In bonus, I spent 24 hrs with my spinner on my last April trip and only got her some gifts for her birthday, maybe 3/4 K but she had fixed her cousin (another gem of my liking) and her friend too. Can't complain.

Thanks for the tip on price point. Help sets a line on the floating bar.

Last time, I gave my girlfriend 10,000 pesos after her 3 weeks with me. She never asked me for anything, but I thought that was fair. She was thrilled.

[Mahaba]

I personally like non bargirls for a GFE experience. Remuneration per day is already discussed. My day after meeting the girl goes like this. Go to the room, take a shower and get down to sex. After an hour or so she is hungry. Philippine girls do not like expensive restaurant food. Very happy with jolibee food. I bring her what she wants. After that she is content staying in the room or playing with the phone. I go on my own merry way go get a massage, eat what I want and come back. Have sex again and go to sleep. In the morning sex again, shower and both go to get hotel breakfast. If the girl has a job she leaves for work. Money is given. This leaves me whole day for me. If she does not have work we talk, smootch may have sex. Sometimes we go to the mall, sometimes if the girl wants we have taken day trips. Take her along for a massage if she wants. It is totally GFE.

For me nothing beats it.

Actually it does not cost lot of money. I have done bargirls before but you get an empty feeling after she leaves in the morning.

I agree it's a better experience as they are not as jaded as bargirls. The description "non bargirls for a GFE experience...Remuneration per day" is unique. Interesting culture when even a "non bargirl" working one of the low salary jobs will happily spread her legs for a foreigner to bridge the gap become income and expenses.

I recall a description of the different classes of women in PI, with the top tier being wealthy by western standards as well as independent and sufficient. My friend met one in the United Arab Emirates, working as an engineer for Emirates Airlines. The relationships are much different when on equal terms and your money is not needed /.

Alas, that is a small segment of the population. This status quo will continue unless the economy improves to the level of Singapore or Japan. Not likely for a while with the average blue collar wage at around 400 pesos per day. (about $8 US).

[Sammon]

Sure. My reply was point out that the extra room and board can add up to be many times cost to fuck rather than an opinion on your arrangement. Many get surprised at how much extra it does cost to have her around 24/7 especially if taking her to a tourist area.

For the record, I have done the BYO deal but now prefer to split the difference. If she presses the right buttons and I fall in love, she's welcome to come night after night. However, it's great if she has a job or something to go to during the day. I'm both a loner and a cheapskate so I like to have my own time and not have to entertain her all day. It's not unheard of for me to get an infill during this time.

Everyone has their preferences but this fits me pretty well.

Cheers. G.

I personally like non bargirls for a GFE experience. Remuneration per day is already discussed. My day after meeting the girl goes like this. Go to the room, take a shower and get down to sex. After an hour or so she is hungry. Philippine girls do not like expensive restaurant food. Very happy with jolibee food. I bring her what she wants. After that she is content staying in the room or playing with the phone. I go on my own merry way go get a massage, eat what I want and come back. Have sex again and go to sleep. In the morning sex again, shower and both go to get hotel breakfast. If the girl has a job she leaves for work. Money is given. This leaves me whole day for me. If she does not have work we talk, smootch may have sex. Sometimes we go to the mall, sometimes if the girl wants we have taken day trips. Take her along for a massage if she wants. It is totally GFE.

For me nothing beats it.

Actually it does not cost lot of money. I have done bargirls before but you get an empty feeling after she leaves in the morning.