Manila

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hey guys,

I will be in Manila on vacation in a couple months. I have a few questions.

1. It will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. Just my, my parents, and my sisters.

Now obviously I can't go to the clubs with them.

So I will be alone. Does this make the whole thing much more difficult?

Will they see me as less approachable since I'm by myself?

2. So I walk into a bar like Firehouse...what exactly do I do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "I'm interested in a girl"?? And if so, do they automatically assume that I mean a prostitute?

3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?

to ralek

I think you should go to place like phoenix one in makati is a massage place
that offer fs and you can do this during the day and spend evening with your
family , Why don't you take your father with you there is many massage place
in manila just ask any taxi dude they will take you there .

I know you are a newbie and new to p4p just go to a bar and check it out I
am sure you will like it girl in manila offer gfe and are very friendly .



fast eddie 48

[GoodEnough]

I think X Man covered the essential points. Remember though, in the Edsa complex and in the Burgos bars, there are no "normal" girls, and most, if not all, are there for hire. You do not really need to ask "for a girl" and your only problem will be deciding which one or which ones you want. I've run into two "virgins" on Burgos who allegedly don't go with customers. This is a rare exception however.

Remember, that this is a business, and there's little luck or skill involved in purchasing the commodity that's being sold. Tell the girl of your choice that you want to pay her bar fine. She will nod and call over the mamasan, who will take your money. The girl will then disappear for a few minutes to change into street clothes, and off you go. I'm sure that every girl working in every bar in Manila knows all of the short time hotels. If you like whomever you pick up, then get her cell phone number and you can make arrangements directly with her after the first time with no hassles and no barfine.

:D

GE

[X Man]

just go to the bar. they will come to you. buy a girl a drink and ask questions. you'll learn a lot.

i prefer to make eye contact with whoever attracts my interest. if you need to speed things up, talk to one of the older ladies (mamasan). tell her who you like and she'll call the girl over...sometimes right off the dance stage.

i suppose some guys here will have recommendations for short-time hotels, but again, the ladies will usually know a place. i've never had to do this though.

of course you are advertising yourself as a complete newbie, so they might try to get you to overpay. for short time from firehouse, give her 1000 and if she complains, give her another 500.

btw, the dance shows at makati, burgos (jools and one other place) are quite professional. what do the rest of you guys think? would you take family members to such a show? i think i would, but my family members are realatively open minded.

x

x

hey guys,

i will be in manila on vacation in a couple months. i have a few questions.

1. it will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. just my, my parents, and my sisters.

now obviously i can't go to the clubs with them.

so i will be alone. does this make the whole thing much more difficult?

will they see me as less approachable since i'm by myself?

2. so i walk into a bar like firehouse...what exactly do i do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "i'm interested in a girl"?? and if so, do they automatically assume that i mean a prostitute?

3. i have no where to take the girl, since i will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do i have where i won't have to spend much extra?

[Ralek]

Hey guys,

I will be in Manila on vacation in a couple months. I have a few questions.

1. It will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. Just my, my parents, and my sisters.

Now obviously I can't go to the clubs with them.

So I will be alone. Does this make the whole thing much more difficult?

Will they see me as less approachable since I'm by myself?

2. So I walk into a bar like Firehouse...what exactly do I do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "I'm interested in a girl"?? And if so, do they automatically assume that I mean a prostitute?

3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?

[Fast Eddie 48]

Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.

For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.

to fog ducker

Emrita is full of beggar, pimp and hustler not muggers and robbers.


fast eddie 48

[Surfer]

As I PM'd CL, I NEVER "attacked" him at all and I challenge you two to put up [your evidence] or shut up. Quit instigating flame wars or trying to involve others like CL in your dispute with me (because I called "the Senator" on his racist posts in the Colombia folder).

Trying to start flame wars is all Prov ever does, and why Jackson has not banned him (despite putting him on final warning long ago) is beyond me. Prov is a paradigm of "serial antagonist" and adds absolutely nothing of any value. While I find Dashingdon's racist comments offensive, at least he tries to post some info and photos, unlike Prov who only posts to flame. Guiness has heretofore refrained from shit disturbing so one can hope his post is an isolated incident.

Quit wasting everybody's time as the members come here looking for info on Filipinas, not your stupid little attempt to discredit me for criticizing your Senator.

[Cebu Local]

While PROV & DD ALWAYS seem to post in unison, creating reasonable suspicion they are one and the same, you are credible and I have NEVER made any such accusation against you. You validated that they are separate and I accept that. Guiness is obviously another friend of those two (though he has not previously participated in their joint jihaad against me after pointing out Don's pattern of racist postings-doubt you have ANY interest but I can cut and paste them for you).

I trust you see through their clumsy attempt to create an impression that I have "attacked" you when nothing could be further from the truth. I NEVER suggested you were part of their "circle jerK' and the quote Guiness posted attempting to instigate a dispute between you and I says no such thing. Salamat Kuya.

Duly noted and Thanks for the Clarification.Best Regards

[Bill Buxton]

Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.

For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.

I was told there was no crime in the areas mentioned.Nice to see someone else walked around with his eyes wide open.

B.B...

[Fog Ducker]

Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.

For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.

[Surfer]

While PROV & DD ALWAYS seem to post in unison, creating reasonable suspicion they are one and the same, you are credible and I have NEVER made any such accusation against you. You validated that they are separate and I accept that. Guiness is obviously another friend of those two (though he has not previously participated in their joint jihaad against me after pointing out Don's pattern of racist postings-doubt you have ANY interest but I can cut and paste them for you).

I trust you see through their clumsy attempt to create an impression that I have "attacked" you when nothing could be further from the truth. I NEVER suggested you were part of their "circle jerK' and the quote Guiness posted attempting to instigate a dispute between you and I says no such thing. Salamat Kuya.

[GoodEnough]

I'm about 5'7", 60+ years old, never been trained in the martial arts, non-combative, and never had a single problem walking back and forth between Amazonia and LA Cafe. Never been threatened, never had so much as a hostile stare, and am never afraid of that street.

I don't know what the situation may be on the side streets and I do not plan to find out, but I'm reasonably sure that Del Pilar is totally safe. If you're worried, have a taxi drop you at the door, and then take a taxi from the door to wherever else you may want to go. I get somewhat pissed off at the guys trying to hustle me into taxi's with "no meter" so I usually walk to the middle of the street and flag down a metered taxi.

Like anywhere else in the PI, it's wise to remain prudent and not to carry much money. I always leave the credit cards, driver's license and anything else of value and/or with a picture in the hotel safe before I leave the room. I never carry more than P5,000 or war any expensive jewelry and try hard never to call attention to myself. It seems to work.

:D

GE

[Teddy Bear 99]

As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.

However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.

I stayed for a month at the Manila Pavilon many different times. I had no problem walking from the hotel to LA Cafe. I am 5'9, 275 lbs. I walk like I know where I am going, if someone tries to approach me I wave them off or shake my head no. If someone persists, I stop and look them directly in the eye and say no very sternly. I have never had a problem even walking at 3 am.

Some people may say I am crazy, but I have been trained in the martial arts on how to defend myself. Also 2 of my nephews are PNP officers, who showed me the ropes.

[Prov1]

Cebu Local is the most trusted and helpful person on the Philippine thread. He has assisted hundreds if not thousands of people traveling to the P.I. In addition, he was the voice of reason during the Dannah Mae controversy while others were attacking her for no reason. I think it's disgraceful Surfer has attacked the reputation of this kind person.
The Philippine section has been peaceful for quite a while until Surfer drifted into town. It would be nice if he would go back to the Colombia section where he is continuing his attack on others.

[Cebu Local]

I understand that some people get embarassed when the the truth comes out and perhaps that is Why the Surfer could not accept that there were no multiple ID s.But I was clearly having Coffee with one guy at Ziggurat,The other was tapping away at 88 Internet Cafe and Another was in the Peninsula registered as Senator Real Name.Anyway I will continue to provide advice and Information and Validate Stuff as needed.GE See you soon Cheers

[GoodEnough]

Guiness:

CL is also a friend of mine, and I'll be seeing him next week. You know and I know that he's one of the nicest people on this planet and he needs no defending from me or from anyone else. His friends know who he is, and why should he care whatever those who may not be his friends think?