Manila

[GDreams]

I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.

Unless the European airlines have changed recently they are far from the best. The middle East Airlines and the larger Asian airlines are generally better. I have flown Air China a bit. They are not great but if you have Star Gold status you will often get seated in premium economy. Korean, Asiana, Singapore, Thai all have good planes and service. I have only flown China Southern internally and was pleasantly surprised by the room and quality of aircraft.

[Niteluvr]

Being "old fashion" myself, my current prefered methods are facebook, wechat, and the business card (paper with name and number).

How popular is Wechat in the Phils? I used to use it to chat with Chinese only.

[Niteluvr]

How would you rate your overall experiences flying airlines based in the PROC? Of the big 4 (Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan), I have heard the best things about Hainan, and more recently about China Southern. I have not heard such great things about Air China or China Eastern. There's also China Airlines by the way, which is based in the ROC (Taiwan).

I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.

[Niteluvr]

Had a great time in Manila for six days. Stayed closer to airport and initially thought stay would be too dry. But luckily got two friendly drivers (Eric and Geo) who showed me around the city and it's night life everyday. The deal is I would pay them 1000 peso and they will take me around, show me the places, hang out with me and assist in getting contacts and finally drop me back in the hotel after 3 hours. Was able to visit Burgos, LA Cafe, Havana cafe, three casa's, pubs around Edsa and also few local bars near airport road. Was able to understand the places targeting Arabs, Indians, Koreans and locals. Got some gems at extra cost but worth the money. I can say that staying near airport is not that bad if you have time and willing to shell out a bit extra. Having a local with you at times help in exploring new places. Will come soon.

Nice post. Always a good idea to have a local dude working on your behalf. That was my strategy in Korea to either get into place I normally couldn't or get Korean girls that were normally off limits to foreigners.

[Transporter]

Hey brothers,

Planning my fun mongering splurge trip next week Friday 1 March to Wednesday 6 March.

First ever to Manila. I want to have my load poured our 5-6 times each day. So need to find 20+ pinays in these 120 hrs of my trip!

I have RTFF and understand Kojax, XOXO, EDSA & LA Cafe seems my best bet. Yet I am quite intrigued on how to find really small, slim small be chicks and if can getting young ones would be cherry on the top.

I am a bit crazy when it comes to selection and would rather spend the load with hands then on a not so happening GFE pinay.

Any seniors willing to help this poor soul and make my days happier.

You might want to pm me for this one.

[WestCoast1]

I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?

Dimples, located next door to Go Bananas (GB is on the corner of Burgos / Kalayaan). Inside and next to the wet bar are two long skinny tables, with stools alongside each table. Sitting at those tables, turned 90 degrees to face the stage, or 90 degrees opposite to face the CR in the back. Orient towards the back and the CR. Opposite the CR is a long padded bench in a very dark area. That's the #spewforthbeej area. Usually p1000 talks a girl into some adult fun time there. Errrr. . . So I'm told.

[Dg8787]

Hey brothers,

Planning my fun mongering splurge trip next week Friday 1 March to Wednesday 6 March.

First ever to Manila. I want to have my load poured our 5-6 times each day. So need to find 20+ pinays in these 120 hrs of my trip!

I have RTFF and understand Kojax, XOXO, EDSA & LA Cafe seems my best bet. Yet I am quite intrigued on how to find really small, slim small be chicks and if can getting young ones would be cherry on the top.

I am a bit crazy when it comes to selection and would rather spend the load with hands then on a not so happening GFE pinay.

Any seniors willing to help this poor soul and make my days happier.

Age old equation. Time and money. If you have the money, then I am sure it can be done in a timely manner.

[Free2]

Hey brothers,

Planning my fun mongering splurge trip next week Friday 1 March to Wednesday 6 March.

First ever to Manila. I want to have my load poured our 5-6 times each day. So need to find 20+ pinays in these 120 hrs of my trip!

I wish you nothing but good luck! But that sounds like a logistical nightmare to achieve. IMO it takes many trips under your belt with established contacts to even get close to be successful with that plan considering the trappic and size of Manila and the relentless unreliability and lateness of the pinay species.

[Free2]

Sorry, I'm hopeless at remembering names.Continuing down past Ringside, on the other side of the road, opposite the Korean Church is a dark and dingy bar that offers FS behind curtains. Again the girls were nothing special looks wise.

That bar is called Wowowow.

[Goferring]

I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?

Sorry, I'm hopeless at remembering names.

Walking away from Makati Ave past Bottoms you have 3 bars side by side on the other side of the road. I had a double BJ in one of those. They were adamant that no FS available on site. Great BJ but the girls were not stunners. Maybe Rascals but don't quote me. Look for a glass booth off to the left as you enter the bar.

Continuing down past Ringside, on the other side of the road, opposite the Korean Church is a dark and dingy bar that offers FS behind curtains. Again the girls were nothing special looks wise.

Sorry I cant be more specific.

Enjoy. G.

[BaboyDave]

There are also the bars on Burgos that allow onsite BBBJ or even FS.

I'd agree that the "where to go" question is pretty irrelevant as regardless of where the girl is from, she will know of nearby ST hotels.

I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?

[Goferring]

I don't know of other on-premise options however any bar girl, FL or Casa girl will go to a short time hotel with no issues.

Enjoy Manila!

There are also the bars on Burgos that allow onsite BBBJ or even FS.

I'd agree that the "where to go" question is pretty irrelevant as regardless of where the girl is from, she will know of nearby ST hotels.

[BaboyDave]

I am a relative newbie to Manila but will be going there every other month starting this April. I will be living in a short term rental arranged by my firm so I cannot bring ladies there. While I am willing to learn what websites help you find in-calls, it does not sound like the escort websites are developed as in Singapore or the many BKK spas, BJ bars, and brothels are as easy to find in Manila. What I want is the ability to stop in somewhere, enjoy a couple big beers to start. I am happy to buy a girl drink and then take her to a back room like in Mexico City's Zona Rosa. Is this an option? I have seen reports of ghetto brothels like in Angeles side streets (under bridges). However, I would stand out way too much walking around trying to find such places. While a high end brothel would be a less regular treat, I am looking for a place with a girl and a private room where I can come and go in less than an hour. I know we cannot recommend places but would value any general information or pointing me to reviews of distinction where I can start developing potential regular haunts!

The thing about Manila is that is doesn't really have a Sauna or FKK setup that I'm aware of.

Basically to get on-site FS there are two options. Spas and KTVs, there are a few notable places that run both a SPA and a KTV at the same place those are Kremlin & Classmate in Quezon City in front of Fisher mall, Air force 1 and Flight 168 in Paranaque not too far from NAIA and there are a few more like this setup. The KTV part of the busibess will only be open at nights while the Spa will also run all day. The spa is a fishbowl, no beer, point and click, pick a chick fuck her for an hour and leave. The KTV is where things get really expensive, really beautiful girls on stage, buy them drinks, if it's your thing take them to a private room and sing with them. If you build enough of a rapport, some of them may fuck you in one of the adjacent spa rooms. These tend to become VERY expensive nights (between 10-20 k depending on how much everyone is drinking and how long the foreplay in the KTV takes, abd there's a catch as the longer the time in KTV, the better the chances she'll agree to join in the spa).

There are also many KTVs on Roxas blvd that mainly attract Filipinos. Girls will dance topless on stage, again youll pay for drinks and an hourly rate for every girl that joins your table. They do have private FKK rooms in which you can fuck a dancer on premise, those don't have beds but the staff are nice and will bring a couple of sofas together expecting a tip. I have found one of the sexiest girls I've been with in a KTV on Roxas. The mama initially quoted me 7 k for FS after already having a pretty large bill for drinks, I laughed at her face, we settled for 2. 5 k.

I don't know of other on-premise options however any bar girl, FL or Casa girl will go to a short time hotel with no issues.

Enjoy Manila!

[WestCoast1]

That's a good price. In my last trip to the Philippines in 2007 I paid $600 SFO - MNL return on Philippines Airlines and I thought that it was good then.

Time of year, and closeness to departure date when booking make the difference. Flying in / out of Phils in December / January during the Christmas holidays is most expensive (have had trouble finding under $1700 then). Flying in the off-peak times can easily find a number of airlines in the $600-$800 range, and that is when those ticket prices occurred. Your 2007 flight was a *long* time ago. Your SFO / LAX. MNL return nonstop is still around on PAL, but at considerably higher prices. You can still find those prices in the off-season with several of the PROC airlines. Previously, until a few years ago, flying PAL internationally was the bottom of the barrel -- service and food onboard was terrible, the aircraft were non-amenitied, and the checkin process was rough. Things have improved.

How would you rate your overall experiences flying airlines based in the PROC? Of the big 4 (Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan), I have heard the best things about Hainan, and more recently about China Southern. I have not heard such great things about Air China or China Eastern. There's also China Airlines by the way, which is based in the ROC (Taiwan).

Have flown China Eastern, Southern, and Air China. All appear to be more on the order of budget airlines. Aircraft appear to be low-amenitied. For example, on seatguru dot com, you will find those aircraft might not have a power connection for each seat for your device. Seat pitch (distance to the next seat in front of yours in inches, often 30 or 31 inches) and width will be the smallest possible. Compare with Korean Airlines 34" seat pitch for their A380 fleet, and overall better cabin service crews.

[Breadman]

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