Manila

[Albert9989]

Whao Edward5, looks like you never read any reports in these Phil forums.

All posts are about exactly the questions you ask. In all the forums dedicated to phil.

Strange.

[Edward5]

I'm 40 yr / old white guy from USA.

I started using Tinder and I get a ton of matches. 100's of them and I can chat with the girls through tinder.

Does anyone know when I try meeting these girls when I can finally fly to Manila. Will these girls actually meet up in person? Do I stand a good chance at having sex with them?

2nd question. Since I'm 40 years old, would you say I should go for the 30-39 or the 20-29 year old girls? Who are easier to meet up with and which ones are more fun to date?

Thanks for advice into this.

[Wicked Roger]

In Manila booking with models / car show girls / TV stars etc, at 50 K is a reality. Its a market just like 5/10 K USD / night girls are a market in NYC.

The funny part is that none of the girls client are westerners.

It's mostly rich locals who are willing to pay a lot for beauty trades that most western wouldn't even identify or care for, and a few Chinese / Koreans that are in the high roller circles at Okada / Sun City.

I would agree with that as some politicians, high rolling Koreans / PRCs would easily pay this. Some would ask to see a few girls and choose the ones they fancy, and pay off those not chosen.

I know a few models / playmates and they easily get 25 k pesos a pop. I don't pay that rate as I get 'mates rates' or even cheaper LOL In the end with the lock down there are less punters around and more sellers IMHO so rates may fall.

[Goferring]

In Manila booking with models / car show girls / TV stars etc, at 50 K is a reality. Its a market just like 5/10 K USD / night girls are a market in NYC.

The funny part is that none of the girls client are westerners.

It's mostly rich locals who are willing to pay a lot for beauty trades that most western wouldn't even identify or care for, and a few Chinese / Koreans that are in the high roller circles at Okada / Sun City.

A valid point. I've often said that despite what we may think mongers operate in the middle of the market: too scared of skid row and not invited to the real party.

Enjoy. G.

[Escort Fan]

How would other guys find out? I've never been quoted and definitely never paid 50 k but if I did, I would be too embarrassed to go around bragging about it..

In Manila booking with models / car show girls / TV stars etc, at 50 K is a reality. Its a market just like 5/10 K USD / night girls are a market in NYC.

The funny part is that none of the girls client are westerners.

It's mostly rich locals who are willing to pay a lot for beauty trades that most western wouldn't even identify or care for, and a few Chinese / Koreans that are in the high roller circles at Okada / Sun City.

[WestCoast1]

NCR has moved into a slightly less-restrictive lockdown starting today:

https://www.cnn.ph/news/2021/4/12/ME...ro-Manila.html

From the article:

Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, April 12) With the announcement of the shift of Metro Manila and several provinces to modified enhanced community quarantine or MECQ starting April 12, confusion also ensued because of the national government's ever-changing guidelines.

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For now, what is clear is Metro Manila will impose a unified curfew hour from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. Authorized persons outside of residence are exempted from the curfew.

Curfew hours in Cavite will be from 10 p.m. to 4:30 a.m.

Outdoor dine-in with 50% capacity is allowed as long as there are acrylic dividers and diners are seated diagonally, while dining inside restaurants is not allowed. Restaurants can also accommodate takeout orders.

Public transportation will remain limited to authorized persons outside of residence during the imposition of MECQ.

[PedroMorales]

I am surprised that you did not agree to hand over your salary to her as part of the marriage...... Her mama and papa get the biggest cut of the pork.

Does the trike driver not get a cut?

[Drbombay]

I am surprised that you did not agree to hand over your salary to her as part of the marriage. No Filipina wife is happy unless her foreigner husband hands over his income and financial accounts to her. As she said, it is part of her culture. When you refused to trust her with your salary and bank accounts, she did not see any point in proceeding with the marriage. After all, she can get unlimited squid dick free at any naval port.

Most married expat mongers hand over all of their income to their Filipina wife and she puts them on a small allowance after dividing it up with the extended family. Her mama and papa get the biggest cut of the pork. They will brag to the whole village that you have a big heart. Many expat mongers on here will tell you that they are happier than a pig in shit with this arrangement, as it keeps their LBFM sucking their aged marshmallows.

Not just Pinays. I'm married to a Japanese and some of our biggest arguments have been over money. But I put my foot down a long time ago on the advice of one of my old Captains who was married for almost 20 years to an American woman who divorced him and now gets half his retirement. Keep the money separate. Have a joint account which you both contribute and keep some for yourself. I do this, with me being the only contributor to the joint account but I don't mind since I leave myself more than I need and will adjust my personal money to ensure that the family is first. I've found that with most Eastern women, money (or who controls) is more on their minds than one would think. Wife's family has their own money and I am sure that when it is dispersed out, I'm not going to be told how much it is and really don't care. I've made it this far without their help and will continue to do so.

But some of the stories I have seen guys go through with handing financial control over to the wife would be worse than any horror story you have ever heard or seen. Case in point, I knew of a guy who gave his wife (a Japanese woman who was certified crazy) access to his military pay account so she could actually see his pay and his leave balances and would hound him at every step on when she saw something she didn't like. We went on temporary duty once, and when we got back she came to the base and argued with him in front of us and refused to drive him home because he had lost a receipt to Burger King that we had lunch at one day and she was upset, her thinking that he was spending it on strippers. When I told him he needed to get control and open up a private account he said she had access to his pay account and would find out. Don't want to get into the weeds on how I told him he could overcome this, but I guess he was just resigned to bring his Japanese wife into RWML and this was the cost he had to pay.

[Chocha Monger]

A lesson I had to learn the hard way but glad I did, back in the day while in the Navy I had a Pinay girlfriend (who was still other peoples girlfriend too) and we got into a massive argument about going forward when she said I had to turn over my pay to her and get my allowance. I said nope not going to happen and I got this "the woman is in charge of the household income in my culture, etc" and I said don't matter to me. Lights will be on, food in the kitchen and some savings will hopefully be had but I'm not turning my hard earned scratch over to someone to handle. Plus while out at sea on deployment I would have had to pay for my meals monthly (Officers had to pay each month their meal fees) and of course she blew up saying all I wanted to do was spend it on booze and women (true). Glad I went my own way since even back then she was sending back money from her then husband / boyfriends to support for some niece's tuition, medical bills, or whatever.

I am surprised that you did not agree to hand over your salary to her as part of the marriage. No Filipina wife is happy unless her foreigner husband hands over his income and financial accounts to her. As she said, it is part of her culture. When you refused to trust her with your salary and bank accounts, she did not see any point in proceeding with the marriage. After all, she can get unlimited squid dick free at any naval port.

Most married expat mongers hand over all of their income to their Filipina wife and she puts them on a small allowance after dividing it up with the extended family. Her mama and papa get the biggest cut of the pork. They will brag to the whole village that you have a big heart. Many expat mongers on here will tell you that they are happier than a pig in shit with this arrangement, as it keeps their LBFM sucking their aged marshmallows.

[Goferring]

I'm still receiving a lot more requests for load than cold hard cash. I haven't investigated but expect the girls are onselling these or returning to the service providers. Most get offended when I say I don't send cash to unknown girls, saying they asked for load not cash.

I'd agree that naked selfies are not something I would pay for. Normally I'm in country pretty frequently so access to the real thing is easy. I receive a small amount free and unsolicited anyway Even at home there is unlimited access to free pina porn. I guess it's more attractive for guys that will never arrive.

Enjoy. G.

[MutantChicken]

Same thing today, with some of my internet women. I will send a few bucks but I expect something in return and one sends some pretty decent selfies and movies and IMO deserves a tip or two. But some have gotten lazy these days by sending you a blurry photo and they claim it's them and expect you to drop coin on them.

Money will make or break any type of relationship it seems. It's not that I'm against giving to play, but not so much for the extended family to mooch off me while there may be able bodied people able to put in a days work but don't want to.

Some would argue getting a few naked selfies is not getting anything in return. Likewise some lonely old man living in Alaska being able to talk to his Pinoy "girlfriend" who he as supported for the last 5 yrs, that little bit of human contact so he can continue his fantasy is well worth the return. To me both activities "enables" these women to try and get money by other ways, ways I would call manipulative to earn money rather than direct fucking. This behavior of men is what allows 40 yr old women to make 4 k usd selling farting vids, or 40 yr old pinoys to make a decent income posting old naked selfies on their alua pages or sending it to horny old men.

[Drbombay]

When I have a life in, she will get an allowance, usually 7000 to 10000 per month with the understanding that she has to take care of relatives and family not additional from me. I might help a true emergency but do not consider bail, gambling debs or wanting to open a business an emergency. Medical is about all that would qualify and I will be asking how much others are giving too. Education for a deserving and capable family member could be considered but not some rip off school or tourism management courses. I want to see transcripts and will make tuition payments directly, not hand over cash.

My longer term relationships have almost always ended over a refusal to give additional money on demand.

A lesson I had to learn the hard way but glad I did, back in the day while in the Navy I had a Pinay girlfriend (who was still other peoples girlfriend too) and we got into a massive argument about going forward when she said I had to turn over my pay to her and get my allowance. I said nope not going to happen and I got this "the woman is in charge of the household income in my culture, etc" and I said don't matter to me. Lights will be on, food in the kitchen and some savings will hopefully be had but I'm not turning my hard earned scratch over to someone to handle. Plus while out at sea on deployment I would have had to pay for my meals monthly (Officers had to pay each month their meal fees) and of course she blew up saying all I wanted to do was spend it on booze and women (true). Glad I went my own way since even back then she was sending back money from her then husband / boyfriends to support for some niece's tuition, medical bills, or whatever.

I've had a few before the COVID lockdown in Singapore that were some of my kept ladies that I like to see and I don't mind paying for their services, but while laying up and she gets a phone from Otay that she needs to pay her nieces tuition I let them know the night is still young and you may want to go back out to work since I'm not the one for taking care of extended family just because.

Same thing today, with some of my internet women. I will send a few bucks but I expect something in return and one sends some pretty decent selfies and movies and IMO deserves a tip or two. But some have gotten lazy these days by sending you a blurry photo and they claim it's them and expect you to drop coin on them.

Money will make or break any type of relationship it seems. It's not that I'm against giving to play, but not so much for the extended family to mooch off me while there may be able bodied people able to put in a days work but don't want to.

[BrizLad]

Personally I don't care what anyone else does as long as it does not impact me either directly or indirectly.

People overpaying makes it harder for the rest of us to get the old prices, there will be a effect on prices. Once raised they will never come down.
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My longer term relationships have almost always ended over a refusal to give additional money on demand.

Well said Mr Kabul Guy. I think there is a genuine difference in how money is perceived in the Ph v the West.

West: Wow, she gives great service for P1 k, if I give 3 x that price then I will get 3 times the service.

Perceived by her: This guy is an easy touch for extra cash.

Ph: Wow, that guy gave me P1 k for sex which I give away for free / much less to others. He will easily pay P10 k for other random things.

Perceived by me: Fuckoff, I'm paying for sex not other shit.

Confidently handling the monetary different perceptions will allow for a long term life in Ph. There are genuine girls with acceptable attitudes but we also have to be fast to dump the others.

[Kabul Guy]

Personally I don't care what anyone else does as long as it does not impact me either directly or indirectly.

People overpaying makes it harder for the rest of us to get the old prices, there will be a effect on prices. Once raised they will never come down.

If the going rate is 1500 and some guy comes along and pays 3000 then that girl brags about it and her friends want to be able to brag about getting 3500 and so on.

Now the guy who overpays should be educated about the going rate and how that impacts the rest of us over the long term.

I always want to be treated decently and believe that the best way is to treat people decently first. My target is not the pro and semi pros but the regular girls wanting to make a little extra. I currently have a stable of regular girls, in the province where I am, and give 1000 each visit. If they have a long bus trip to get here I will top that up with bus fare. If they are within 50 kms or so, I will go pick them up, they love that if they can get it.

That 1000 is per visit. I have one who typically comes for 2 or 3 nights each week and she is happy with the 1000 plus 200 bus fare unless I drive her home. She is the most enthusiastic cock sucker I have ever encountered. She will literally suck me raw if I let her.

OPf course meals etc are all on me, a nice restaurant meal is usually great but they really love it if I cook for them.

I make it clear to all that that is the limit of what they will get from me. A long term regular will perhaps get a little extra in an emergency but it will usually be an advance on future visits.

I do help out some long term regulars in Manila due to pandemic but they understand that it is advances on services not an outright gift. I know I will never het it all back in service but still low cost pussy.

When I have a life in, she will get an allowance, usually 7000 to 10000 per month with the understanding that she has to take care of relatives and family not additional from me. I might help a true emergency but do not consider bail, gambling debs or wanting to open a business an emergency. Medical is about all that would qualify and I will be asking how much others are giving too. Education for a deserving and capable family member could be considered but not some rip off school or tourism management courses. I want to see transcripts and will make tuition payments directly, not hand over cash.

My longer term relationships have almost always ended over a refusal to give additional money on demand.

[Turgid]

Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?

See what I mean? I have not even done it and have pissed off two mongers already.