Manila

[Kazeu]

What is often forgotten is that John's often fit into different groups and these are able and willing to pay different rates. A guy in town for 2 days business who wants to get laid tonight views everything completely differently to a Resident who can meet the girl when ever mutually convenient. Of course, the girls recognise this and present themselves at various price points accordingly.

It's not unusual for a 5000 p K-girl to make a quick phone call and accept 500 p from a local dive master when the rent is due.

I don't see any shame in being in either category.

There should be no shame in it. What I take issue with is, is the condescending tone with which the board members who pay more use against the board members who pay less. And I'm with mutant chicken on this one. It's usually the guys who pay more who have no patience to do any of their own ground work or even read the forums who come to the board and ask the members who pay less where to go to find hot women. Why even help these types of people? I know MutantChickens playground is Vietnam which continues to be a great place for high quality / price ratios, but its a tough place to crack because not as much info is shared. Good for him. I don't see any incentive for people like MutantChicken who knows the scene there to help people who are going to come in and ruin the game for others.

[Goferring]

The members who tell others how much to pay are not too well endowed financially and think that other members paying what they think is too much will cause an increase in prices. All human beings seek happiness and my bottom line is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you are not harming others.

What is often forgotten is that John's often fit into different groups and these are able and willing to pay different rates. A guy in town for 2 days business who wants to get laid tonight views everything completely differently to a Resident who can meet the girl when ever mutually convenient. Of course, the girls recognise this and present themselves at various price points accordingly.

It's not unusual for a 5000 p K-girl to make a quick phone call and accept 500 p from a local dive master when the rent is due.

I don't see any shame in being in either category.

[Turgid]

Quite a few members purpose are here to tell us how much to pay, when to pay and who to pay. How much to tip.

The members who tell others how much to pay are not too well endowed financially and think that other members paying what they think is too much will cause an increase in prices. All human beings seek happiness and my bottom line is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you are not harming others.

[Dg8787]

Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.

To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.

That's my take on this discussion.

Cheers.

Quite a few members purpose are here to tell us how much to pay, when to pay and who to pay. How much to tip.

[Sharka]

Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.

To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.

That's my take on this discussion.

Cheers.

[MutantChicken]

"Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.

Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?

How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?

Great, but this is where I have a issue.

If you aren't giving money away altruistically, where do you get off chiding others for "having a hot penis and a cold heart", your heart isn't any warmer when you give money with a ulterior motive, if anything its worse because you are being duplicitous and manipulative. Then to top it off you say "How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?" What happened to the first part of me paying how I want to.

What's equally humorous, is I recall you asking on the Vietnam thread how much it would cost to live there when you get regular access to 10 dollar spinner 19 yr old hotties posted on the picture thread, which by implication the next question would be how to access these bargain cuties. Notice how across the boards no one is sharing any really good intel how to find bargains and where to find gems? Well the answer may have something to do with guys saying its their money and they can pay as they please at the same time they are asking for good actionable intel for low prices attractive women. Then after over paying calling other cheap Charlie as a justification for overpaying.

This is the reason I will remain tight lipped about a manila massage parlour where FS is available with these girls for 2500, that way Ill pay what I please, and you can go to Kojax etc and pay 6000 for similar girls then claim you can pay how you want to.

FYI not my pics I'm not in country but I'm tight with many parlour mamasons who whatsapp / viber me pics if their current lineup.

[SinfullyKorean]

More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.

Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.

"Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.

Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?

How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?

[MutantChicken]

You guys seem to have hot penises but cold hearts. I can't be like that. Some girls will scam, others will have shit happen to them. I will decide what to do depending on the circumstances. The cash I part with will not hurt me in any way. I'd rather be scammed in that manner than to be hard-hearted.

More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.

Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.

[Turgid]

All girls wants money. Now it is due to pandemic. Other times it is typhoon, Buffalo sick, parents sick, hungry, lost job, my cousin once removed need operation well you get my drift. Reason lists are endless.....

You guys seem to have hot penises but cold hearts. I can't be like that. Some girls will scam, others will have shit happen to them. I will decide what to do depending on the circumstances. The cash I part with will not hurt me in any way. I'd rather be scammed in that manner than to be hard-hearted.

[Sammon]

The girl with the asthma daughter never hit me for support. But I lost contact with her as I assume she either lost her phone or something else as I can't contact her anymore (her number no longer in service).

But I have been asked many times from various girls I've banged before for handouts. Worse now with the Pandemic as most can't find customers and can't find work as many places either downsized or closed.

I have ignored most request Over the past year and many have already blocked me. Too bad though as many were cute and somewhat decent performers.

All girls wants money. Now it is due to pandemic. Other times it is typhoon, Buffalo sick, parents sick, hungry, lost job, my cousin once removed need operation well you get my drift. Reason lists are endless.

Need to navigate through all this. Just because they blocked you does not mean anything. If you have other means of communication and you are on the ground they will jump into your bed.

[Sharka]

There's a HUGE difference between supporting someone and their family vs helping someone with a bit. Hopefully, that FL doesn't expect you to be doing this on a regular basis. .

The girl with the asthma daughter never hit me for support. But I lost contact with her as I assume she either lost her phone or something else as I can't contact her anymore (her number no longer in service).

But I have been asked many times from various girls I've banged before for handouts. Worse now with the Pandemic as most can't find customers and can't find work as many places either downsized or closed.

I have ignored most request Over the past year and many have already blocked me. Too bad though as many were cute and somewhat decent performers.

[Mahaba]

Its all about denial and "suspending disbelief" on the part of the guy. I can't blame the girl for trying to raise some cash.

If one truely believes he is someone that young filipinas find attractive and fun to be with then it should not be difficult to hook up with a single filipina in the USA where she has her own money and the playing field is level. If that can't be achieved then you may need to work on some self improvement so you can compete.

I advise against confusing sex tourism with romance.

A lot of guys think they can go to the Philippines and meet a beautiful, loyal wife who may be much younger than them. Retired guys literally have 20 somethings throwing themselves at them. And in most cases it would be impossible to meet such a a girl in western countries; they wouldn't even give you a second glance. And in fact it is possible to find a beautiful, loyal, young wife in Ph.

But just remember: In 99% of cases the girls are poor, and their families are poor too. Which means that you, as the relatively wealthy foreigner will be the person they come to when they need help. It doesn't matter if they are a bargirl, "Normal" girl, etc. Unless they are from the Filipino elite then they are relatively poor. (And elite Pinays don't throw themselves at working class foreigners).

I just read a story from a guy married to a Pinay. He gave long, long list of all the problems her family had (Brother drowned in a shipwreck, sister got cancer, etc, etc) and he bankrolled them all, to the tune of about $150 k US.

How many of us that have been married to western women had to bail out their family members? In my case, not only was it zero, her family actually gave money to my family and for my kids education. So I was net positive.

So its not surprising the Pinay will be loyal when you are a walking ATM who will solve all the financial problems of her tribe. Just see how long she stays with you if you are broke, especially if she already got her green card or whatever.

So I'm not saying don't marry a Pinay; I'm just saying just understand what you are getting yourself into. As I said, if something looks too good to be true, it probably is.

[SinfullyKorean]

Yeah, I'm a sucker too. When I spend too much time in PI, I fall into the lets help the girl mentality. Don't affect me when its only 1-2 week trip but when its a month or more, then guessing could be out of boredom.

The last girl I met was a part time freelancer with a 2 yr old girl. She was a very nice person. Not a harden pro. Use to meet up one a week then she wanted to meet more. I asked why as she always insisted she didn't have time to come out more often when I wanted her. She said her daughter has asthma and she was desperate for hospital bills and medicine. She was always trying to be as cheerful as possible when she was with me but always sad and worried just the same.

I tried not to be too sympathetic but it does affect me the longer you know them. I also tried not to let money be an issue but also do find myself giving her a little more than what we agreed on. There was once when she came over and both just got undressed and her phone rang. She started crying as Neighbor said her daughter was having another asthma attack. She got dressed and wanted to leave right away, didn't ask me for any money even though she had to pay transport to visit me. She ran out of my hotel and I caught up to her in the street. I gave her transport money along with what I usually give her for ST and little extra. So she went away with my money and I got absolutely nothing out of it. Yeah, like a said, I'm a sucker too.

Cheers.

There's a HUGE difference between supporting someone and their family vs helping someone with a bit. Hopefully, that FL doesn't expect you to be doing this on a regular basis. And you gave it to her out of the goodness of your heart. Even without that money, it won't affect you that much. It's nice to be generous, as long as you're not being taken advantage of. I'd like to think that if I was in a similar situation, I'd do the same thing (I probably would've paid for transport + 50% of ST), as long as it didn't turn into a habit.

It's not even a matter of expecting something in return. Most of us are blessed to be in a good situation. Sharing a small sliver of that good fortune to people who don't expect it, but are grateful for it, just makes you a good human being.

If she starts expecting handouts, shows she's not grateful, or expects more dump her. World's too big to get hung up on a single ungrateful pussy.

[Goferring]

You are probably a lot like me. I like to be generous but despise being ripped off.

ID agree. There is a huge difference between being generous or charitable to those legitimately in need and an absolute sucker. Arguements could even be made that the monger could receive a couple of thousand pesos value in performance or karma. The guy below is never going to see $150 K in value from his pussy for hire.

[SaltyPete]

Yeah, like a said, I'm a sucker too.

Cheers.

You are probably a lot like me. I like to be generous but despise being ripped off.