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  1. #5151
    Quote Originally Posted by Lopkx
    Why go to Manila for African or Russian girls, doesn't make any sense. There are other places in the world with the selection you are looking for.
    Good question. Thailand does have Russian and European Prostitutes there. But yah, makes no sense to go Philippines looking for African or Russian girls. In answer to whether Philippines have African & Russian girls, very very slim chance. I have not seen any myself.

  2. #5150

    Brown vs. Black or White

    After 3 Filipinos, you will never request (African) Black or (Russian) White again. Been there, done that.

    Welcome to SE Asia.

    Cheapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lopkx
    Why go to Manila for African or Russian girls, doesn't make any sense. There are other places in the world with the selection you are looking for.

  3. #5149
    Quote Originally Posted by Killer69
    Hi all,

    Thinking of doing the Philippines in April but can't decide between there and Thailand (will be scuba diving and muff diving majority of the time!). I've searched the forums but can't find anything (except for Angeles city) on whether Manila contains the following:

    - African / Black girls

    - Russian girls

    Any information on the availability of the above would be truly appreciated, thanks!
    Why go to Manila for African or Russian girls, doesn't make any sense. There are other places in the world with the selection you are looking for.

  4. #5148

    re: False Imprisonment at the Seoul hotel off Burgos

    Thanks for your story. I have been tempted to take some of the massage girls up on their massage on Burgos but haven't done so. I believe the ones in uniform are legit, where I'm a little apprehensive in taking some just freelancing on their own as their are a lot of ladyboys around Burgos St. I probably wouldn't have gone with the person you described, but the way it went down gives me some heads up on possible ongoings over there in the future.

  5. #5147

    The Underbelly Of Mongering

    Quote Originally Posted by mrlowdown
    i would say that i am a moderately experienced mongerer having practiced the sport all over the world including some pretty rough spots in brazil and columbia. nevertheless, a few days ago i got myself into some trouble that could have turned very nasty. i let my guard down for a moment, didn't use common sense and didn't trust my instincts. here's the story:

    i was walking down burgos street alone in broad daylight around 2:00 pm looking for a pedicure or a massage. i was an area of burgos that is about 1/2 mile from the entrance. this area of burgos has lots of japanese karaoke strip joints. as i am browsing, i am approached by a woman who asked me if i wanted a massage. she spoke good english, stood about 5' 8" and was somewhat nice but very talkative. her face had lots of pimples and dents where you could tell she generally had bad skin. she was not attractive and was very big for a pinay. i would guess she weighed about 200lbs.

    the big woman tells me that she has a 8 girls who do massages with happy endings a little bit off the beaten path in a place called the seoul hotel which she informed me was owned by a korean. she told me that i could choose any of the girls that i liked to do the massage and she spent a lot of time trying to assure me that she wanted me to have good service so i could tell my friends about the place. i think this was all in an attempt to make me feel comfortable. since i was actually looking for a massage, i asked her the price and she said 500 pesos and it included everything. so thinking this might be a good deal, off we go about 1. 5 blocks off burgos street to the seoul hotel. the area looked a little rough but i could see it from burgos street, so i figured it was ok.

    she tells me to give her the money because the place is normally for philippinos and they would charge more if they saw that i was american. this made sense to me so i give her the money and after talking with a woman at the desk, the big woman escorts me to the 4th floor where we go inside and she immediately tells me to take a shower. i tell her no thanks; i'll wait until she leaves the room before i take a shower. she insists but i still refuse, so she eventually leaves telling me to lock the door behind for my own safety. this was another red flag! i should have cut my losses and just left. i walk out into the hall and see very pretty girls going in and out of rooms so i assure myself that i am just over reacting.

    the big woman returns a few minutes later with one girl. i asked where the others were and she replied that they were all busy. the girl she brought was actually very beautiful. she was tall about 5' 8", slender, and very pretty. i would say she was an 8. so i said, "i guess i'll take her. " then the big woman said, "ok great now take your shower." i replied, "i'll take a shower when you leave." to which she replied, "well. i'm waiting for my tip." i said, "tip? you said 500 pesos." so i'm thinking that this is the trick, use a cheap price to get customer's there and then ask for a large tip before services begin.

    now i'm getting upset and starting to see where this going. so, i get up to head for the door and the big woman races to the door and steps in front of me. she say's, "don't you want to have sex with my girl for 2000 pesos?" i said, "hell no! i'm here for a massage" she replies that this girl is new and she feels uncomfortable leaving her with me and would like to watch as she is giving me the massage. i say, no! but she blocks the door. i grab her arm which was very toned and solid. when i grab her, she screams "don't hurt me!" very loud, she resists and i can tell she is very strong. now i'm thinking this is probably a man.

    not wanting to make a big scene, i don't pressure to get out of the door. i did not want someone screaming "he's hurting me help" so i go to the other side of the room to decide what i would do next. she is still blocking the door and the pretty girl she brought in starts to get visibly upset. she says, "just let him go!" this made the big woman very angry and she stands up and starts screaming at the pretty girl in tagalog. i thought for a minute that they would come to blows.

    now i just want to get the hell out there without making a fuss so i tell her that i do not need any service and that i am just going to leave. the big woman says give me 2000 pesos and you can leave. i replied, "i'll give you ass kicking if you don't move." she replies, "if you hurt me i will scream and my friends will come."

    i said, "i'm not giving you another dime, i don't trust you and all you will do is keep asking for more money" she replied, "ok i'll make you a deal, if you have sex with me and my girl then i will let you go" she approaches me and places my hand on her breast and i immediately draw back. she is offended and says, "ok then we will wait."

    i calculate that the more time we wait the greater the chance is that this is going to turn ugly. the only thing that kept me from giving her my backwards flying elbow to the face was the risk that i would not knock her out cold. there would be blood and screams and if she really did have friends in the hotel, i would have a great challenge trying to escape down 4 flights of stairs and then out into the street unrep001hed. i still didn't know for sure if she was girl or a guy. what if the cops thought i assaulted a woman? i could imagine the men on the street being upset that an american guy just beat down a pinay female. i could see headlines in america about a guy traveling for sex tourism who get arrested for beating up a prostitute so, she had the upper hand and i think it is best to try to resolve this silently.

    we negotiate for a while and i eventually get her to promise to release me quietly for an additional 1500 pesos. i hated to give in. it hurt my pride and challenged my manhood but i figured that it would be much smarter to lose 55 us dollars than take a chance on something that might cost me many thousands of dollars or possible my life.

    the agreement was that she would open the door before i gave her the money. this time she did open the door and i held the money high in my hand until i was out in the hall. i dropped the 1000 peso note and then walked briskly out of the place. i survived only having lost about 55 us dollars.

    she was probably bluffing about her friends. probably a two person operation with her and the girl. i think the initial 500 pesos was for her to rent the room and that there probably were legitamate operations going in in the same hotel. however, i didn't want to take the chance and i did not want t o have to fight what could have been a female.

    so a word to the wise, be careful out there. don't be stupid like me. this can be a dangerous game. trust your instincts.
    i think you handled the situation well.

    man that's one hell of a story. thanks for posting it. i love reports like this that expose the seedy underbelly of mongering. i have been lucky all these years. never been in a jam, even running around various countries with thousands of dollars on my person. never lost a wallet or had to scream for help as some pseudo experts.

  6. #5146
    Quote Originally Posted by Westcoast1
    Its part of my list of particulars discussed. Cell phone off (not vibrate or silent) once inside the room. She can txt all she wants from the bar to the hotel, and she can check her messages when she leaves. It prevents disruptions or argument about the thing. Ive been known to put both my phone and hers in a drawer or the safe. Really the girls are terrible about manners with the phone. If you dont say or do something about it, they will answer it everytime it vibrates and return the txt. This happens about every 3-4 minutes, and there is no way to get any sleep. It amazing that they get any real sleep at home.
    I think this is a ploy to go home early. If I annoy him enough he will ask if I need/want to go (so he can get some sleep).
    I would'nt be surprised if it works often enough, certainly annoys the hell out of me & Im a very patient person foe the most part ;)

    AV

  7. #5145
    Quote Originally Posted by FreebieFan
    Had the distinct pleasure of meeting an Indonesian lady (22) who came with me on a business trip recently. We met in airport, kissed and she gacve me her phone. Said " I don't need this as long as I'm with you ". I put it in safe in hotel and it remained off till I gave it back to her at airport when we left.

    I thought that was VERY stylish. Our Filipina friends could learn a bit from their IndonesiaN counterparts.
    Indeed, that's a classy woman FF. Certainly not in the same league as the Pinays. Its one thing I miss here, rich or poor/educated or not, most Pinays have lousy manners.

    AV

  8. #5144

    False Imprisonment at the Seoul hotel off Burgos

    i would say that i am a moderately experienced mongerer having practiced the sport all over the world including some pretty rough spots in brazil and columbia. nevertheless, a few days ago i got myself into some trouble that could have turned very nasty. i let my guard down for a moment, didn't use common sense and didn't trust my instincts. here's the story:

    i was walking down burgos street alone in broad daylight around 2:00 pm looking for a pedicure or a massage. i was an area of burgos that is about 1/2 mile from the entrance. this area of burgos has lots of japanese karaoke strip joints. as i am browsing, i am approached by a woman who asked me if i wanted a massage. she spoke good english, stood about 5' 8" and was somewhat nice but very talkative. her face had lots of pimples and dents where you could tell she generally had bad skin. she was not attractive and was very big for a pinay. i would guess she weighed about 200lbs.

    the big woman tells me that she has a 8 girls who do massages with happy endings a little bit off the beaten path in a place called the seoul hotel which she informed me was owned by a korean. she told me that i could choose any of the girls that i liked to do the massage and she spent a lot of time trying to assure me that she wanted me to have good service so i could tell my friends about the place. i think this was all in an attempt to make me feel comfortable. since i was actually looking for a massage, i asked her the price and she said 500 pesos and it included everything. so thinking this might be a good deal, off we go about 1. 5 blocks off burgos street to the seoul hotel. the area looked a little rough but i could see it from burgos street, so i figured it was ok.

    she tells me to give her the money because the place is normally for philippinos and they would charge more if they saw that i was american. this made sense to me so i give her the money and after talking with a woman at the desk, the big woman escorts me to the 4th floor where we go inside and she immediately tells me to take a shower. i tell her no thanks; i'll wait until she leaves the room before i take a shower. she insists but i still refuse, so she eventually leaves telling me to lock the door behind for my own safety. this was another red flag! i should have cut my losses and just left. i walk out into the hall and see very pretty girls going in and out of rooms so i assure myself that i am just over reacting.

    the big woman returns a few minutes later with one girl. i asked where the others were and she replied that they were all busy. the girl she brought was actually very beautiful. she was tall about 5' 8", slender, and very pretty. i would say she was an 8. so i said, "i guess i'll take her. " then the big woman said, "ok great now take your shower." i replied, "i'll take a shower when you leave." to which she replied, "well. i'm waiting for my tip." i said, "tip? you said 500 pesos." so i'm thinking that this is the trick, use a cheap price to get customer's there and then ask for a large tip before services begin.

    now i'm getting upset and starting to see where this going. so, i get up to head for the door and the big woman races to the door and steps in front of me. she say's, "don't you want to have sex with my girl for 2000 pesos?" i said, "hell no! i'm here for a massage" she replies that this girl is new and she feels uncomfortable leaving her with me and would like to watch as she is giving me the massage. i say, no! but she blocks the door. i grab her arm which was very toned and solid. when i grab her, she screams "don't hurt me!" very loud, she resists and i can tell she is very strong. now i'm thinking this is probably a man.

    not wanting to make a big scene, i don't pressure to get out of the door. i did not want someone screaming "he's hurting me help" so i go to the other side of the room to decide what i would do next. she is still blocking the door and the pretty girl she brought in starts to get visibly upset. she says, "just let him go!" this made the big woman very angry and she stands up and starts screaming at the pretty girl in tagalog. i thought for a minute that they would come to blows.

    now i just want to get the hell out there without making a fuss so i tell her that i do not need any service and that i am just going to leave. the big woman says give me 2000 pesos and you can leave. i replied, "i'll give you ass kicking if you don't move." she replies, "if you hurt me i will scream and my friends will come."

    i said, "i'm not giving you another dime, i don't trust you and all you will do is keep asking for more money" she replied, "ok i'll make you a deal, if you have sex with me and my girl then i will let you go" she approaches me and places my hand on her breast and i immediately draw back. she is offended and says, "ok then we will wait."

    i calculate that the more time we wait the greater the chance is that this is going to turn ugly. the only thing that kept me from giving her my backwards flying elbow to the face was the risk that i would not knock her out cold. there would be blood and screams and if she really did have friends in the hotel, i would have a great challenge trying to escape down 4 flights of stairs and then out into the street unrep001hed. i still didn't know for sure if she was girl or a guy. what if the cops thought i assaulted a woman? i could imagine the men on the street being upset that an american guy just beat down a pinay female. i could see headlines in america about a guy traveling for sex tourism who get arrested for beating up a prostitute so, she had the upper hand and i think it is best to try to resolve this silently.

    we negotiate for a while and i eventually get her to promise to release me quietly for an additional 1500 pesos. i hated to give in. it hurt my pride and challenged my manhood but i figured that it would be much smarter to lose 55 us dollars than take a chance on something that might cost me many thousands of dollars or possible my life.

    the agreement was that she would open the door before i gave her the money. this time she did open the door and i held the money high in my hand until i was out in the hall. i dropped the 1000 peso note and then walked briskly out of the place. i survived only having lost about 55 us dollars.

    she was probably bluffing about her friends. probably a two person operation with her and the girl. i think the initial 500 pesos was for her to rent the room and that there probably were legitamate operations going in in the same hotel. however, i didn't want to take the chance and i did not want t o have to fight what could have been a female.

    so a word to the wise, be careful out there. don't be stupid like me. this can be a dangerous game. trust your instincts.

  9. #5143
    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks
    guys must really have small equipment for a woman to be that disinterested during sex.

    i say, rollin' around, sittin' on dubs cat like eye, was high on shrubs, coolin' in my escalade, man i'm paid, i got it made, take me to your special place, close your eyes show me your face, i'm gonna [CodeWord140] on it.

    haters gotta hate, lovers wanna love, i don't even want, none of the above, i want to [CodeWord140] on you. yes i do, i'll [CodeWord140] on you, i [CodeWord134] on you.

    i said yo body, yo body, is a portapotty, and i [CodeWord134] out kit(?), and i [CodeWord134] on you, drip, drip, drip, [CodeWord134] on you, [CodeWord140] on you, [CodeWord140] on you,

    you won't feel quite the same, once you get a whiff of my hershey stains, i wanna [CodeWord140] on you, too, i want to [CodeWord134] in yo food, only thing that make my life complete, is when i turn yo face into a toliet seat, i want to [CodeWord134] on you, yes i do, [CodeWord134] on you, i'll [CodeWord140] on you

    dave chappelle
    hello,

    i'm looking for bf or more than that. i'm sweet girl, sexy and i'm kind. i am waiting for good guy to be with or friends its ok. living in angeles city already. i hope i can find a good guy here. i am here always in the house always online and ready to know someone that serious guy. and i want guy come here in phil meet me in person so i can know him. sorry but i don't want pinoy or black guys please don't bother me.

  10. #5142
    Philippines is text capital of the world. Texting is more natural than breathing. I usually try to set an example by holding my own phone up and say we'll both switch off our phones now, OK!? And freeze until she gets the message (as opposed to just putting into sleep mode lol).

  11. #5141

    Lacking

    guys must really have small equipment for a woman to be that disinterested during sex.

    i say, rollin' around, sittin' on dubs cat like eye, was high on shrubs, coolin' in my escalade, man i'm paid, i got it made, take me to your special place, close your eyes show me your face, i'm gonna [CodeWord140] on it.

    haters gotta hate, lovers wanna love, i don't even want, none of the above, i want to [CodeWord140] on you. yes i do, i'll [CodeWord140] on you, i [CodeWord134] on you.

    i said yo body, yo body, is a portapotty, and i [CodeWord134] out kit(?), and i [CodeWord134] on you, drip, drip, drip, [CodeWord134] on you, [CodeWord140] on you, [CodeWord140] on you,

    you won't feel quite the same, once you get a whiff of my hershey stains, i wanna [CodeWord140] on you, too, i want to [CodeWord134] in yo food, only thing that make my life complete, is when i turn yo face into a toliet seat, i want to [CodeWord134] on you, yes i do, [CodeWord134] on you, i'll [CodeWord140] on you

    dave chappelle

  12. #5140
    Quote Originally Posted by Amavida
    Call me old fashioned but I classify conversing with another person during this the intimate of acts as a sign of disinterest.

    Ok, if a girl playfully txt's "Im bz" hits send then the 'off' button & then tosses the cell phone away thats fine but to have someone constantly clattering away on a keyboard during sex is a big turn off for me.

    Asian chicks (especially the P4Per's) are so ill mannered in this regard. I usually playfully make a point of turning off my cell before the session & if they dont get the hint I ask them to do so also.

    AV
    Its part of my list of particulars discussed. Cell phone off (not vibrate or silent) once inside the room. She can txt all she wants from the bar to the hotel, and she can check her messages when she leaves. It prevents disruptions or argument about the thing. Ive been known to put both my phone and hers in a drawer or the safe. Really the girls are terrible about manners with the phone. If you dont say or do something about it, they will answer it everytime it vibrates and return the txt. This happens about every 3-4 minutes, and there is no way to get any sleep. It amazing that they get any real sleep at home.

  13. #5139
    Quote Originally Posted by Amavida
    Call me old fashioned but I classify conversing with another person during this the intimate of acts as a sign of disinterest.

    Ok, if a girl playfully txt's "Im bz" hits send then the 'off' button & then tosses the cell phone away thats fine but to have someone constantly clattering away on a keyboard during sex is a big turn off for me.

    Asian chicks (especially the P4Per's) are so ill mannered in this regard. I usually playfully make a point of turning off my cell before the session & if they dont get the hint I ask them to do so also.

    AV
    Had the distinct pleasure of meeting an Indonesian lady (22) who came with me on a business trip recently. We met in airport, kissed and she gacve me her phone. Said " I don't need this as long as I'm with you ". I put it in safe in hotel and it remained off till I gave it back to her at airport when we left.

    I thought that was VERY stylish. Our Filipina friends could learn a bit from their IndonesiaN counterparts.

  14. #5138
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
    Saw this article on CNN today

    http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05...s-ok/?hpt=Sbin

    and immediately thought of the phil. Although here I think close to 100% of girls would say it was OK. (And 100% of punters that it is not)

    Here is a copy and past of the article:


    Texting during sex? Some say it's OK

    It may sound ridiculous, but a few blogs today are considering this question:

    Is it appropriate to send or receive text messages during sex?

    The chatter is a spin-off from a 1,000-person survey, published in March, which found about one in 10 people younger than 25 say that they would not mind being "interrupted by an electronic message" during sex.

    Among people older than 25, 6 percent said they would be fine with that inconvenience, according to the online survey by Retrevo, a website that reviews consumer electronics.

    The survey reports a 4 percent error margin.

    About a quarter of people in the under-25 group said they wouldn't mind getting a text message or e-mail while using the restroom (the chart actually says "on the John," but can we all agree to boycott that phrase?). And half of the younger people said they would be OK with a digital intrusion into a meal.

    Older people were less fond of this all-the-time messaging. Sixty-two percent of people older than 25 said they don't like being interrupted by digital communications in general.

    Maybe there's a serious conversation to be had somewhere in these salacious details.
    Call me old fashioned but I classify conversing with another person during this the intimate of acts as a sign of disinterest.

    Ok, if a girl playfully txt's "Im bz" hits send then the 'off' button & then tosses the cell phone away thats fine but to have someone constantly clattering away on a keyboard during sex is a big turn off for me.

    Asian chicks (especially the P4Per's) are so ill mannered in this regard. I usually playfully make a point of turning off my cell before the session & if they dont get the hint I ask them to do so also.

    AV

  15. #5137
    Quote Originally Posted by Zuhare Meri
    Just curious, are you allowed to bring our mighty blue friends in with us, or are they available there?
    Bring'em if yo got em but no need. If you are staying any where near red light districts there is a plentiful & cheap supply of generic (but mostly definitely real) 'performance enhancing' drugs available on the street's. The sellers are thick on the ground, you don't need to look, they will come to you.

    If you must, you can walk into a mercury drug store & ask for them over the counter & pay 3 times as much (for proprietary). The pharmacist will politely ask you for a presciption & you will politlely promise to bring it next time whereupon he will give you the pills anyway.

    AV

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