Manila

[GoodEnough]

There's a slightly disparaging tone to some of these posts, as if the fabrications, outlandish fantasies and willingness of the young women somehow make them objects of contempt, or at least ridicule. I guess the fabrications, outlandish fantasies and willingness to screw anything in panties that moves is somehow more noble when it comes from the men who come here seeking to bed as many nubile young things as possible in the shortest space of time.

The fact is, it's a balanced equation: the guys get an endless supply of young and willing pussy, and the girls get some money, some decent meals and shelter, and the hope--no matter how faint--that one of these guys will get them the hell out of here. A fair quid pro quo if you ask me.

I've met guys here whose fables would put Aesop to shame and it's these same guys who develop moral outrage when they find out that the girls to whom they've been feeding their nonsense have also been lying to them. Time to wake up. The girls assume we're lying, we know they're lying, and it's a fair exchange all around.

GE

[Amavida]

As a side-note, I got an interesting hit from one CB lady in her 40's. A mom who had 3 kids in college. It read, "Please don't come tour here. Sex in philipines is sacred. Please don't do that. Also sir, nobody will repsond your profile. " It was respectful. We exchanged ym I'd to chat about it. She was smart, mature, and had an honest opinion to offer. I hated to burst her bubble, but I copied/pasted several of the replies from other girls who offered themselves for touring on first contact, and told her nearly 100 girls had responded in a week. She was surprised by that. One of the responders offering touring to me was in fact from her provincial town. I asked her an interesting question: If sex is so sacred there, why then is there a willing supply of young ladies dying to tour me? She did not have a good answer, and admitted it. It shook her belief that filipinas are 'good girls'. We ended the conversation on a good note.

Really, when over half of the girls who contact me in CB are willing to go against thier profile motto of "Looking soulmate" and drop down quickly to 'touring' status, it should shake the belief of everyone who considers finding/marrying the 'good girl' filipina. Remember the 'good girl' who many of our friends/boardmates have written about to say they are married to her now, or are getting married to? Wonder how many times she 'toured' a foriegner before his 'good girl' became his. Did she 'tour' twice last year? Five times?

Take note, gents.

Im wondering if there has been a generational change here in PI? Maybe after 5 years here I'm more confident or better operator... I'm not sure. Based on my experiences though it does seem to me that younger ones are ignoring completely the old more's now. Families turn a blind eye. Girls in their thirties still lean toward the old standards, girls in their forties still believe the fairy tale. Girls 18+, wow they are up for anything these days.

Probably the widespread availability of Internet has lead to young girls becoming far more ..ahem.. 'experienced' and savvy far quicker than in the past. They all entertain the hope of a long term rescue from their situation but many will grab a short term opportunity these day's.

Many guys say that the reason the girls are on the net fishing is because they want to escape their poverty but its more than that, they have a debt to their family & fucking foreigners is a quick way to escape that obligation (or so they think).

Newcomers should indeed take note, behind the sweet innocent act is a mentally tough, pragmatic little operator. If a low mileage vagina is what they idolise they may need to look extremely carefully hehehe ;)

AV

[WestCoast1]

Yep WC, No need to invest too much time in reading or writing profiles. As you have found, many girls simply spam all guys anyway. Most have very limited english. Keep your profile short & simple. Don't waste words pretending to be seeking a wife if you're not. Just a few tactful words hinting. Get a decent pic of your self.

I sort them geographically then by looks. I take little notice of the girls profile wording as it is usually generic rubbish, anything better may well have just been written by a bakla cousin

The further they are from Manila, the less likely they are to get a guy to follow through on visiting them. Most guys get as far as their airport of entry (typically Manila) and get scooped up by the many girls there.

Given a little patience, a profile on CB & Tagged will attract many girls, a proportion of which will be attractive to you & open to short term 'fun'.

There is no guarantee, sometimes you strike out for a while & sometimes you hit pay dirt very fast. Guess that's why British & Australians call our hobby 'punting' (rather than the more vulgar mongering).

Tally Ho!

AV

Quite right AV. My profile on CB says I'm not looking for marriage, only touring and fun when I'm in town. Stunningly I'm being contacted by 10-20 ladies per day. Often within 1-2-3 messages we've exchanged info, or better just on the CB chat. I cannot be online there more than 2 minutes when the chat rings start hitting. I always check their profile before chatting. Almost all say they are looking for soulmate/husband. Quickly I ask them "Did you read my profile? ", as I'm not looking for that. About 1/2 have not bothered to read it. I ask them to do so now. Of those 1/2, about 1/2 of them (25% of total who contact me) say, "Oh, we are not compatible. " I wish them well. The other 75% have then read it, and, going completely against what their profile says, continue to chat with me (when their profile says they don't like what I do).

In addition, about 10% of the girls say up-front in first message to me, they would love to 'tour' me when I'm on xxxx city. In chat they ask pertinent questions (how long would you like me to tour you sir?), and tell of fun things for us to do (beaches, live band, travel), almost like a naughty tour guide with a wink.

Given the high number of girls responding to my ad, there will be plenty of plan-b backup in any town I'm in. Hadn't realized how great CB is.

As a side-note, I got an interesting hit from one CB lady in her 40's. A mom who had 3 kids in college. It read, "Please don't come tour here. Sex in philipines is sacred. Please don't do that. Also sir, nobody will repsond your profile. " It was respectful. We exchanged ym I'd to chat about it. She was smart, mature, and had an honest opinion to offer. I hated to burst her bubble, but I copied/pasted several of the replies from other girls who offered themselves for touring on first contact, and told her nearly 100 girls had responded in a week. She was surprised by that. One of the responders offering touring to me was in fact from her provincial town. I asked her an interesting question: If sex is so sacred there, why then is there a willing supply of young ladies dying to tour me? She did not have a good answer, and admitted it. It shook her belief that filipinas are 'good girls'. We ended the conversation on a good note.

Really, when over half of the girls who contact me in CB are willing to go against thier profile motto of "Looking soulmate" and drop down quickly to 'touring' status, it should shake the belief of everyone who considers finding/marrying the 'good girl' filipina. Remember the 'good girl' who many of our friends/boardmates have written about to say they are married to her now, or are getting married to? Wonder how many times she 'toured' a foriegner before his 'good girl' became his. Did she 'tour' twice last year? Five times?

Take note, gents.

[WestCoast1]

Really? CB used to be quite strict about exchanging contact info on the first message. Has that policy changed?

X, I was not aware of any such policy. I've been on CB for 10 days now, have had 300+ smiles/emails. I have yet to initiate contact there with any girl -- no need to, they keep ringing me or emailing. They dont always leave contact info (like that phone), but some do in the form of their YM id.

[Amavida]

[QUOTE=X Man]Really? CB used to be quite strict about exchanging contact info on the first message. Has that policy changed?

Several young cuties have hit me with, "Like your profile sir. I'm look forward to touring you and fun when your here. Please visit to me. My number is. "

QUOTE]

Hello X, Last time I used a CB account a couple of months ago you still had to do the silly little back & forth messaging on site before you could exchange your email/Yahoo/phone details. Of course jumping to the CB chat window circumvents that if you are lucky to strike them online as the same time as you.

Cheers
AV

[Amavida]

Av,

I followed your lead. You mentioned this before. A week ago I made a CB profile, claiming I did not want marriage and was only interested in fun and touring. Over 200 emails and smiles in a week; I have not had the need to browse the their members and contact anyone myself. About 1/3 have not read my profile when I ask in chat. I have them go do that while chatting. They say "Oh ok. We not compatible. " They are not looking for 'fun'. Or, they say the opposite, they are willing to spend time with me if I come there. The other 2/3. Several young cuties have hit me with, "Like your profile sir. I'm look forward to touring you and fun when your here. Please visit to me. My number is. "

Also there is a strange high prepondrance of Mindanao girls. Only a handful of girls from Cebu and north.

Yep WC, No need to invest too much time in reading or writing profiles. As you have found, many girls simply spam all guys anyway. Most have very limited english. Keep your profile short & simple. Don't waste words pretending to be seeking a wife if you're not. Just a few tactful words hinting. Get a decent pic of your self.

I sort them geographically then by looks. I take little notice of the girls profile wording as it is usually generic rubbish, anything better may well have just been written by a bakla cousin :)

The further they are from Manila, the less likely they are to get a guy to follow through on visiting them. Most guys get as far as their airport of entry (typically Manila) and get scooped up by the many girls there.

Given a little patience, a profile on CB & Tagged will attract many girls, a proportion of which will be attractive to you & open to short term 'fun'.
There is no guarantee, sometimes you strike out for a while & sometimes you hit pay dirt very fast. Guess that's why British & Australians call our hobby 'punting' (rather than the more vulgar mongering).

Tally Ho!
AV

[X Man]

Really? CB used to be quite strict about exchanging contact info on the first message. Has that policy changed?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1] Several young cuties have hit me with, "Like your profile sir. I'm look forward to touring you and fun when your here. Please visit to me. My number is. "

QUOTE]

[Denom]

Your post was very helpful to the OP BR but......

I think I would have turned RIGHT out the front door on Makati Avenue to get to P Burgos.
Turn left and you end up near Landmark opposite Greenbelt.

This one is easily settled - from the front door of the hotel you first need to turn left to get to Makati avenue, then once on Makati avenue, turn right. That's because the entrance is not on Makati avenue itself but inside an open parking lot.

[Red Kilt]

The Mandarin Oriental is just a 5 minute walk from the bars on P. Burgos. Turn left out the front door, right on Makati Avenue, cross a small street, cross Buendia, Jupiter, it is on your right.............

Your post was very helpful to the OP BR but......

I think I would have turned RIGHT out the front door on Makati Avenue to get to P Burgos.
Turn left and you end up near Landmark opposite Greenbelt.

[Robbaf]

Its a microwave device for jamming nearby cellular phone frequencies. His nearby hotel guest's must really freakin love losing their internet/txt/call services every time he is in his room ;)

Not a bad idea though! Sure beats listening to your pinay txt'ing all bloody night hehehe :)

AV

Just don't get caught with one as they are banned in the Philippines.

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/41825.php

*The Philippines telecoms regulator, the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) has banned the sale, purchase, possession or use of cell phone jamming devices. However, an exemption has been left that enables individual cases to be heard where jammers will be permitted.

The regulator confirmed that it has received requests for waivers, but declined to name the applicants or how many requests it had received.

The exact details of the punishments that can be handed out to people using jammers was not specified as the announcement simply said that infringes would be dealt with in accordance with law.

The Commission on Elections (Comelec) has expressed concerns that the transmittal of poll results on election day from far-flung areas to its central office may be disrupted owing to the proliferation of jamming devices. Some 5,000 such devices are reported to have been imported into the country.

Article published on 7th February 2010

Robb

[Brown Rail]

I will be visiting Manila in June with my wife who is there on business and looking for someplace fun safe and with beautiful girls during the day. We will be staying at the Oriental Hotel and hoping for something close, quite nice and very inviting. Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is working and I am. How do you say. Haha

The Mandarin Oriental is just a 5 minute walk from the bars on P. Burgos. Turn left out the front door, right on Makati Avenue, cross a small street, cross Buendia, Jupiter, it is on your right. Happy hour prices during the day. Still a rip off, but cheap by foreign standards. There are a couple of short time hotels on Burgos, I think p700, the girls should be able to show you.

If you have more time take a taxi into Manila to Ermita and LA Cafe. During the day expect it will take 45 minutes to get there but it is open 24 hours. It will cost p500-1,000 for the girl plus p600 for aircon room at Amazonia.

[Denom]

Its a microwave device for jamming nearby cellular phone frequencies. His nearby hotel guest's must really freakin love losing their internet/txt/call services every time he is in his room ;)

Not a bad idea though! Sure beats listening to your pinay txt'ing all bloody night hehehe :)

AV

Very interesting - thanks! First time I heard about such a device. Now that I became aware of it, I can find quite a few thing about it, for ex: "Low-powered jammers block calls in a range of about 30 feet (9 m). Higher-powered units create a cell-free zone as large as a football field. Units used by law enforcement can shut down service up to 1 mile (1.6 km) from the device." - Wow!

[Denom]

Denom, how are 90% of the girls in AC not pro at all? Those aren't cherry girls I run into very often (I've run into exactly one that would not depart the bar with me for that reason). They are barfining several nights a week. 100-200 guys or more in a year. Who knows? Not pro, as in not freelancing? The FL gals in Manila and Cebu are often from the province also, with family's that don't know what she's doing.

Well, I guess it depends how you define "pro". For me a pro is a girl who has been doing that for years and who has chosen to do it as a profession and does not have any freshnesh anymore. Most of the girls I met in AC where girls who were quite new in the trade and did it because they didn't have alternatives. It's temporary and they don't really chose to do it as a profession. Besides, I don't think they are bar-fined that often. There are so many of them, I think they only get bar-fined from time to time.

Of course we could discuss for age on this, as the hard core pro also had no alternative, etc, and much of what I said above may also apply to them. I did not mean to say girls in AC were cherry girls. What I mean to say is that they are more like between the hard core pro who has been doing it for years and regular girls. You need to read my comment in the context to what I was responding to.

Girls in AC can be as enthusiastic as a regular girl if they like you, unlike the hardened pro who is blasé and do it as quick as possible. And a regular girl may very well have had more boy friends and short time relations than the bar girls, depending on how long they have been doing it. AC girls, just like regular girls, also hope to find a rich foreigner who will free them from poverty. I don't think there is that much of a difference between them. But of course there is a point where they cross the line between being an amateur and a pro, though I am not sure where that point is and if it ever can be defined at all.

For example, compare girls you find in the red light district of Amsterdam and the ones to be found in AC and you'll get the picture of what I mean to say.

[WestCoast1]

Yeah, if you're going to Phils to fuck girls then don't bullshit around pretending to be looking for a bride. Make it clear, tactfully, on your profile & in your chat's that you're coming for fun.

Don't worry about the girls who drop off your radar, plenty of pretty & fuckable girls will quickly take their place. Even many of the so called 'serious' girls will morph into fucklets if you simply make it clear what you want, tactfully.. They all expect to profit one way or another, short term or long term.

"Im looking for a serious man" is code for "I've just finished college (or about to) and am facing the awful prospect of actually getting a job (god forbid) to repay my utang na loob (debt to my family). I've already been fucked over by a pinoy/pinoy's (and possibly several foreigners). I'm tired of giving it away for free. My cousin told me I can get a remittance boyfriend/green card/husband on this site."

Don't be fooled by or waste your time on the sweet & innocent act.

AV

Av,

I followed your lead. You mentioned this before. A week ago I made a CB profile, claiming I did not want marriage and was only interested in fun and touring. Over 200 emails and smiles in a week; I have not had the need to browse the their members and contact anyone myself. About 1/3 have not read my profile when I ask in chat. I have them go do that while chatting. They say "Oh ok. We not compatible. " They are not looking for 'fun'. Or, they say the opposite, they are willing to spend time with me if I come there. The other 2/3. Several young cuties have hit me with, "Like your profile sir. I'm look forward to touring you and fun when your here. Please visit to me. My number is. "

Also there is a strange high prepondrance of Mindanao girls. Only a handful of girls from Cebu and north.

[Amavida]

Hi Gents:
havent' posted in a while, but, see maybe I could contribute. I've been going to the Phils for 20 years. The one thing I learned was to never, ever pick up a girl on the street, or to use a Mamasan on the street. The bars have at least some credibility behind their name - which means you can report a troublesome girl, and most have some sort of health check - despite the fact that some checks are pencil whipped. Most clubs provide condoms and the like. Yes, the clubs are often more expensive, but, this is what you're paying for. Girls on the street - on the other hand - are usually there because they can't make it in the bars (which is a sad sign). They don't show up on time, or are troublesome to the customers, or worse, have failed a health check.

I know there are exceptions - and we love to hear about those. But, its very rare.
cheers... hope this helps.

You're right, street walkers are bottom of the barrel. SW's on Burgos are a big risk of diease/scam.

I have on occasion picked up some girls nearby to Burgos who were non-pro's trying their luck to pay the rent but there is always the nagging worry that you just did something you will regret.

The eateries nearby to Burgos along Makati Ave often have non-pro's wandering around on a saturday night daring each other for giggles. Sometimes they get more than they bargained for when they meet innocent little AV hehehehe :D

AV