Manila

[Soapy Smith]

Beware, the Philippines authorities will hunt the sex abuser down even he escaped to his home country. https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1151722

A couple thoughts. This guy could have been one of ours. Does anybody come to mind who was active in this forum and then suddenly dropped out of sight about last March?

Second thought: maybe the guy worked for USAID, in which case this reinforces the idea of USAID as a criminal enterprise as another poster has suggested.

But reference to the US Embassy reminds me of a situation from about 15 years ago. I was staying for a few nights at Boulevard Mansion, a run-down hotel on Roxas Boulevard kitty-corner from the Embassy and a three minute walk from LA Cafe. On a Saturday morning I walked across Roxas to the "Baywalk" area. Lito Atienza was Manila mayor at the time and had gotten a bunch of small eateries and other entertainment to set up shop there. A young female approached me and asked if I wanted a massage. She looked young to me but insisted she wasn't underage. I asked if she had ID. She said she didn't but her friend had ID. She pointed to a woman, perhaps 30ish, standing about 20 meters away. This woman was watching us intently. I considered that she might have been a mamasan type, or perhaps part of a team (with the girl) trying to entrap me. I decided the risk wasn't worth it and walked away.

Considering that my situation took place a couple hundred meters from the Embassy is a reminder that even well-placed public servants (maybe even British royalty) aren't immune to the underage problem. It's possible the guy in this news release didn't know she was underage, but he was still very foolish to have taken the risk. If you're not sure, walk away.

[Big Kahuna]

Yeah, that's right. It's Covid induced inflation and the Korean owners are looking to clean up. In addition to the 12,000 peso for the girl + tip, also factor in lady drinks at exorbitant cost, beers for your self, plus dinner. These provincial hotties might only eat rice and vegetables back home in their villages, but they develop expensive and sophisticated palates whenever a foreigner is around. You will be up for a nice steak dinner or a hotel dinner buffet. Yep, all up it's going to cost a lot. But it will still be cheaper than wherever you're coming from.

I just was in Thailand. A lot cheaper there.

[Datiao]

Beware, the Philippines authorities will hunt the sex abuser down even he escaped to his home country.

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1151722

[Goferring]

Unfortunately the age question was commonly ignored by girls....

While some girls may be malicious, it's also very common for girls who are "running" 18, ie 18 next birthday, to consider and describe themselves as 18.

Safest to ask first or just focus on those who say they are 20 or above.

Enjoy. G.

[Sammon]

More importantly, why didn't he check her ID before she got on the bus? It would have saved a lot of the subsequent shennanigans.

Unfortunately the age question was commonly ignored by girls. I had a similar experience few years ago. Met a girl 19 years old fairly okay looking and invited her to a hotel I was staying. Hotels at that time did not care and security did not check anybody. The girl came with another girl and knocked on my door. Upon opening the door I was surprised. Before letting them in I asked for both I. D and they did not have any and they promised they are above 18 years of age. Dating site girl wanted to take a shower and went to the bathroom. Other girl laid with me on the bed and started kissing me. I started kissing her boobs. Before I removed her pants I asked her again how old she was. She said 17. I immediately yelled at the girl in the bathroom to finish her shower and get dressed. I told her why she would bring in underage girl. She apologized profusely saying other girl just tagged along looking for some money. She also said it is okay. But I kicked both of them out with some money.

After this I make sure girls have official I. D to stay with me. On chatting if they did not have I have sent them 500 pesos to get one before I come. At that time it cost only 200 pesos get official police I. D. It takes about 6 weeks. Nowadays security always checks I. D if you stay in upscale hotels. They can spot fake I. D.

[JamesXBrown]

I am curious. What chat site were you using?

More importantly, why didn't he check her ID before she got on the bus? It would have saved a lot of the subsequent shennanigans.

[JuiceGuy]

I am curious. What chat site were you using?

the following sequence tells a story. maybe not for the squeamish. names changed to protect identities.

i won't bore you with all the details of meeting, but an online chatmate some years ago wanted to meet up when i was in manila. gina. while i hadn't told her in advance i was coming, when she found i was in manila, she wanted to leave the province (family labored on a pig farm) to come see me in manila. while very small-appearing on cam, she is very cute.

i had been chatting her from a caf, and she was full of repeated requests to meet, but i was a bit uneasy about it, because she appeared physically small / young on cam, and seemed immature. the next day, thru txt, i agreed. i reminded her that antipolo was a long way out, and that she would have to pay her own way. she asked if i would re-imburse her the bus fare. i said yes. she said that if i didn't like her after meeting, she would not ask me for the bus fare. seemed fair enough to me, although i would still give her the round trip bus fare. she said she would be in the hotel lobby at 3pm. at 3pm as i'm heading downstairs to the lobby, she txts: "can i bring my auntie?" since you are already 2 hours on the bus, and already have auntie with you, there is no stopping that.

five minutes later gina and 3 other women walk into the lobby. she brought her aunt, her mom, and her younger sister. the mom and aunt were older, late 40's, fat. gina herself is 4' 6", about 65lbs. other than her shortness, she is stunning. if she were 5' 6", she would be the most perfectly apportioned woman you've ever seen: nice ass, skinny waist, and real boobage, cute face. her younger sister, carol, is even hotter: she looked just like a (poor) supermodel or actress, including her being tall (for pinay) at 5'-7" height. carol appears to be 22-23-24 in age. i almost had to collect my jaw up from the floor. i was polite, we sat in the lobby a bit and chatted, but i was unsure if i should take them to the room. they were all a bit dirty in their clothes.

after a bit, the aunt, who spoke better english than the rest of them, asked if they could see my room."haha we never been on hotel before." looking at gina, she now appeared to be fairly young. i shouldn't have, but i let them come upstairs to the room. by luck, the hotel had upgraded me from a regular room to a deluxe, a corner room with floor-ceiling windows on the adjoining walls where the corner of the building is. amazing view. separate entry room, a sitting room with couch. a large-screen tv in the bedroom. largest kingsize bed i've ever seen in asia. walk-in closet. bathroom with bathtub, and a phone in the can for calling the front desk while you crap. it was clear from their reaction that they've never been in a hotel. the elevator itself kind of freaked them out. they were in awe of the room: "my god! its bigger our house!" they sat on the bed for a bit, all four of them: "haha. whole family can sleep this bed!" they walked around and checked out the suite.

at this point i wasn't sure how to get rid of them. i couldn't take my eyes off either sister. one was small and cute, the other was g-g-gorgeous. carol kept staring at me, she rarely spoke. it was the "come-hither-big-boy" look. i asked if they wanted to go to robinson's next door and get a coffee or juice? yes they did. once in the mall they wanted juice at a restaurant. mostly they wanted dinner. stupidly i got sucked into that one. the younger sister, carol, kept looking at me in the restaurant, with a wisp of a smile (mona lisa like) , kind of the way a cat looks at a mouse under its paw. during dinner i asked auntie how old carol was: "she running 17. just graduate high school. she our only one who graduate high school till now." jesus de christo! 16 years old, looking 23, with a face that kept saying throw me on the table and fuck me in front of everyone. after dinner they wanted to go thru the mall. we strolled, they hinted for stuff, i ignored. finally they said they wanted to go in the grocery store. they grabbed a cart. to cut the damage, i handed gina's auntie a p500 note and said i would give them no more money. they spent (no kidding) , p502, and asked me for 2 pesos at the checkout register.

then they asked to come back to the room for a few minutes. i was about to say no, and get rid of them, when auntie said they must get on the bus soon as it was dark. whew! back up to the room, and right away auntie asks if i can help them with their family problem: her brother, gina's dad, had to pawn his motorcycle to pay some gambling debts. they needed p10k. i said no. they asked if i wanted to keep gina while i was in manila."you keep her. long time if you want. one day two day one week two week if you like. even you can travel with her if you like. up to you. if you happy to her then maybe you give her some peso to our family problem. ok?" i told auntie that gina appeared ****."not ****. she adult. she have i-d even." with that, auntie grabbed gina's purse, opened it, and turned it inside out on the bed. out fell a p20 note, an i-d, a pair of panties, and lipstick. i checked the i-d, it showed gina (who said before she was 23) to have just turned 20. auntie said that i could send gina home anytime i no longer wanted her, and i should give her p500 for bus to get home, and i could send any amount for the family problem that i desired."if you not happy my niece you give her bus money only. if you happy to her you give a more. no worry." i hesitated, which was met with: "you no want gina. you want carol? she 16 only but she make you a happy." i was stunned at the offer. again this must have appeared to auntie as hesitation: "ok. you want both girl? you keep both girl. no worry to you."

[RainMania]

Isn't EDSA complex completely gone?

I was still in PH when mongers were collectively grieving at the closure of its last remaining bars.

[Locamotive]

Barfines at Go Bananas, Jools, Dimples, Mirrors, Bourbon, and Hollywood were, in February 2020 (just prior to Covid), p3900. Some bars had happy hour prices, afternoon and early evening, half-price on the barfine for ST. LT tip prices were p4-6 k for hotties, half that for lesser girls. Even for a hottie, p3900 BF + p6,000 tip + p600 drinks was about 11 k, $220 USD, so not far off from the $240 mentioned (adding in dinner and / or breakfast and / or bar-hopping with your honey). For lesser girls you could get them to agree to 2000-3500-ish for tip (and, for those interested, I had little trouble convincing them to afternoon ST with me prior to their shift for 2 k). Someone correct me if I am wrong.

There was, for almost a year prior to Covid, a serious decline in the number of gents seen in the bars. That p3900 barfine was set in stone for at least 5 years. Given that you get a hottie all night and get a pop in the evening and morning, and can take her out on a date, for $250 USD, try *that* in your country. Hotties in my country are college-age girls and want up to twice that amount per hour, and come with a list of "No!" conditions that pinay won't utter.

Pre COVID vs now I realize are probably going to be two different environments. Girls and bars need to make up for lost revenue. I visited those same bars you mentioned but most of the time I picked during happy hour and bar fine was 2 k and girl usual 4 or 5 k. Gave myself 3 k to drink and get to know the girl so 10 k tops, still about $200. If I got a late start and saw a honey after happy hour ID just give her my number and say meet me after work. Did this always work, no. Maybe 50% of the time. Did I care, no not really. I lived and worked there so time was on my side. I understand for a monger there for a week or two on vacation this would not be practical was I getting sloppy 2nds or thirds if they showed up. Probably but its not like I'm expecting Mother Teresa. Even a normal hours bar pickup she could have been banging a monger all afternoon, who knows. Nevertheless it will be good to get back after so long. Price at this point is really not going to be a issue after being stuck in US with all these lard asses.

[WestCoast1]

Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?

Barfines at Go Bananas, Jools, Dimples, Mirrors, Bourbon, and Hollywood were, in February 2020 (just prior to Covid), p3900. Some bars had happy hour prices, afternoon and early evening, half-price on the barfine for ST. LT tip prices were p4-6 k for hotties, half that for lesser girls. Even for a hottie, p3900 BF + p6,000 tip + p600 drinks was about 11 k, $220 USD, so not far off from the $240 mentioned (adding in dinner and / or breakfast and / or bar-hopping with your honey). For lesser girls you could get them to agree to 2000-3500-ish for tip (and, for those interested, I had little trouble convincing them to afternoon ST with me prior to their shift for 2 k). Someone correct me if I am wrong.

There was, for almost a year prior to Covid, a serious decline in the number of gents seen in the bars. That p3900 barfine was set in stone for at least 5 years. Given that you get a hottie all night and get a pop in the evening and morning, and can take her out on a date, for $250 USD, try *that* in your country. Hotties in my country are college-age girls and want up to twice that amount per hour, and come with a list of "No!" conditions that pinay won't utter.

[Locamotive]

Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?

Whoa! 6000 bar fine. Girl ok maybe if hot enough but that kind of bar fine is insane.

[D Cups]

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[Engine Driver]

Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?

Yeah, that's right. It's Covid induced inflation and the Korean owners are looking to clean up. In addition to the 12,000 peso for the girl + tip, also factor in lady drinks at exorbitant cost, beers for your self, plus dinner. These provincial hotties might only eat rice and vegetables back home in their villages, but they develop expensive and sophisticated palates whenever a foreigner is around. You will be up for a nice steak dinner or a hotel dinner buffet. Yep, all up it's going to cost a lot. But it will still be cheaper than wherever you're coming from.

[RacShack]

Really? It went from dead city to your description in what a week or two. I pray what you are saying is correct. We got a second opinion on the ground? If so I know some province girls waiting to come back as they thought it was still deadsville.

Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?

[WestCoast1]

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Looks like I missed the fireworks.

Something to soothe the beasties: A 70-lb spinner (the best kind) gettin' busy down there.