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04-17-08 01:01 #2987
Posts: 4084Married or not...
Hi Jason,
I'm not into flaming so relax. This isn't a throwback comment at ya. Theres a good few of us who are married here on this forum. And many of have a good few posts. And many of us who contribute to the various sub forums may also be married to Filipinas. I think we all enjoy the company of good Filipinas which is why we got married to one. And enjoy the lifestyle we can have in the Philipiines. On the" more is better " principle.
And I guess all of who do contribute and play in the Philippines do so on our own terms, and have satisfied our own consciences before playing.
So married and playing. Yeah theres lots of us doing it. Our choice.
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04-16-08 17:49 #2986
Posts: 249Originally Posted by Run Mann
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04-16-08 16:39 #2985
Posts: 1762Manila
Spent two weeks in Manila and my observation is pretty much in line with much of what has been written here in this forum. I was here on a business trip so I did not get out to see much in the day time but had some moments at night.
I'll skip the Thai versus Filipina comparison except to say that I also found the Filipinas to be more sincere and genuine in their presentation of themselves. The Taxi scam debate is too much, it reminded me of how hard is to get a cab in NYC during rush hour and how I would gladly pay them an extra buck but I get the posters who don't want to be ripped off. I would say this about the Taxi Drivers; they are doing what a large segment of the world's population would do if they were in similar situations. These people are dirt poor, I certainly do not approve of their scamming visitors but I understand why they do what they do and if you as a visitor don't you are not being realistic. I hope no one gets hurt over 100 pesos.
The KTVs and Karaoke places did nothing for me so after seeing the lay out of two of these places, I gave up on them. Paying to sit with a girl who can't sing and you get no happy return? The appeal of this escapes me. I think the girly/go-go clubs would do much better with some of the patrons if they decrease the bar fines which can be as high as 3500 pesos in some clubs. I did enjoy the girls in many of the bars in Burgos especially the Ringside club with the female and Dwarf boxing sessions. They have some cute dancers with nice bodies but I never inquired about taking any of them out. Bottoms seems to be a very popular club with a special or VIP rooms some girls tried to lured me into but I wasn't impressed with any of them so I passed.
Not sure why all the less attractive girls swarm customers once you enter the bar and can't get the hint to leave when you tell them you are not going to buy them all lucky drinks. Again I think those lady drinks might get more play if they cost a little less (350 pesos) but I did see some guys in some clubs with a platoon of girls around them all with drinks. Why do customers sign that bill after you order a drink? Is that a legal document and can it be used in court if you don't pay? No need to answer, I just found this procedures amusing. I like how the girls in the bar sized up customers too with the usual conversation. How long you’ve been here? Where you Stay? How many times in PI? Good method of distinguishing the suckers from the experience mongers by these girls.
Saw quite a few Filipinas who were mixed and had a real exotic Asian look. I'm not a big fan of Chinese chicks but for some reason when they are mixed (Chinese and Filipino or Chinese/Thai) they seem more attractive to me, I actually had hooked up with one on Asian Euro before I arrived in Manila but she is all the way out in the boonies and wanted me to send her money for a ticket to come see me but with such a short visit and the abundance of girls here so I told her we would meet on my next visit. I never took a girl from any of the bars but was approached buy numerous free lancers and took a chance on a cute Chinese/Filipino who wanted 500 pesos for a massage, turned out to be an excellent salad tosser. There are loads of these girls on the street but as in the bars you have to wait for the cute ones to walk by. I had three girls who looked liked some harden criminals; one had a scar on her face. Initially I thought she was the actor Willem Dafoe in Drag especially when she smiled. I politely refused them and moved on. The free lancers in groups all push the two girls massage offering but I would never go for that, its one or nothing for me with the free lancers.
The Somerset Hotel Chain in Manila is not worth the price, the charge about 5100 pesos per night (PLUS almost 700P per day for internet usage) and the rooms while accommodating are far from luxurious. Had a massage from the in house masseuse who to my surprise offered a HJ at the end she had nice soft powerful tits but would not offer FS. Over all I had a great time in Manila from my conversations with the Taxi Drivers to the Pan Handlers offering Cialis and Viagra to the Freelancers, Bar Girls and even the Korean Air representative who looked through my pass port and told me what a world traveler I was. I saw beautiful Ticket Agent at the entrance gate who couldn't stop smiling after I told her she looked like a Princessa, she took my compliment so well. Try that at JFK, well on second though the ticket agents at JFK are all mostly cunts so they would not look like that girl.
My advice to people coming here is to go have fun and not get hang up on the small stuff you can't change like the traffic and taxi drivers. Enjoy these lovely ladies while you can, for me it was an honor being here even if some people made me feel like it was an honor to be in my company. I definitely will return, here are some random non-nude pics attached.
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04-16-08 12:55 #2984
Posts: 16Filipinas Prefer Asians?
I've been here a while now and I've talked to girls on Burgos, EDSA, socialites, etc. Here's my take:
Yes, just like us men, everyone has their preferences. Some girls tells me that they will NEVER sleep with a black or an Arab guy. Even at LA Cafe, I saw one Indian looking guy walk up to a girl and she shook her head. I went up to her later and asked and she said, "Mabah-own!" ( It means "stinky" ) And I have met other girls that said they prefer to be with Asian guys only. In Burgos, I see many of the girls with Caucasians, old guys, bald guys, etc. I think there is plenty of action to be had.
I did have some friends from the US visit me. ( they were all white ) I was kind of surprised but most of them didn't get any love at LA Cafe. It's true. Upstairs, the girls are much prettier and they tend to prefer Koreans and Japanese. Downstairs, everything goes. But the quality of the girls is not as high.
We later went to EDSA and it didn't matter. For the most part, I don't think it really matters. We all have our preferences.
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04-16-08 12:21 #2983
Posts: 16Amavida - Disclaimer
Originally Posted by amavida
315 reports? ! and you're married? i'd say you should get a life. feel sorry for you.
i've heard from others about you. this is not your forum. i don't agree with with alot of what others write but it's still their opinion. instead of writing your disclaimer, why don't you just try not to be a jerk.
hmm. filipina wife, filipino family, 315 reports, looking for sex with **** girls. i'd say you're a loser.
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04-16-08 10:11 #2982
Posts: 1856Originally Posted by Tulip777Originally Posted by Tulip777
AC : Large number of P4P girls, Quite variable quality but due to numbers you can always find something nice. Convenient.
Burgos : Expensive P4P, most consistent quality of other areas. Convenient.
Edsa : Lots of FL's, variable quality but often lots of good ones. Prices moderate. Not as convenient as straight P4P places.
LA Cafe : Bottom feeder FL's but gems can be found, Lower prices. Hunting FL's can be time consuming. Not as safe as Makati area.
Malls (Food Courts) : Can pick up amateurs often freebies but least reliable way to get laid.
Cheers
AV
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04-16-08 06:36 #2981
Posts: 577Damn Taxi Drivers !!
Interesting (but too long) debate on Taxis guys, but if you ask me, its the same all over the world, and believe me I have been there in over 30 years working away from home !!
Talking of being there, I actually was a Taxi Driver from 1987 - 1997 when times were hard and the kids were young etc etc. I had a full time job and had to drive a Taxi in my off time to make ends meet due to rising prices, big mortgage et al.
I know all the tricks, all about long hours, traffic, fiddling meters, blah blah blah... and apart from picking up drunken scantily clad young ladies from night clubs, believe me, the job is no fun at all.
I respect Taxi Drivers, tip them well and have never knowingly been ripped off, but maybe that is just the luck of the draw.
It does bring into new light the expression YMMV though ;)
Your Meter May Vary ???
Cheers, F/Fifty
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04-16-08 02:44 #2980
Posts: 1856Originally Posted by Jasonkramer
Originally Posted by Jasonkramer
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04-16-08 02:31 #2979
Posts: 11Visiting Manila
Would be visiting manila over the weekend and staying or 3 days at the Makati Shangrila.
Have been visiting manila once every quarter and usual hangouts are Dynasty, Pacific Blue and Asian Entertainment. Have been charged upto 7k as the bar fine. Is this normal or just ripping off a foreigner? I am allowed to bring in my own bottle at the first two named places. So I save a little money on that. Girls have always been top grade at all Pacific and Dynasty. Asian has a much more commercial approach with girls being thrust on you.
Another issue, I usually visit these places with the same taxi driver and feel the rip off is linked to this.
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04-16-08 02:05 #2978
Posts: 153Originally Posted by Key MasterLast edited by Tulip777; 04-16-08 at 02:24. Reason: addition
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04-15-08 22:54 #2977
Posts: 16Taxi Drivers in Manila II
First of all, let me start off by saying I think Filipinos are one of the nicest people, definitely most friendliest in Asia. I grew up with Filipinos all through my life. The people here are amazing...so oppressed, living in poverty and yet, they can smile and still keep their spirits up. I always tell my friends that the people in the provinces are some of the nicest folks in the world. They have so little, yet, they will give you so much.
I'm Korean, but was adopted and grew up and educated in the US. The expat community here is pretty tight-knit group. One of my closest American friends that has been living here for 15 years said, "People think you are Korean so you will get hassled more from the taxi drivers". First, I didn't believe him but it's true. When they see me, they assume 3 things - (1) I don't speak English (2) I'm a tourist or student (3) I have loads of money and I don't know any places. So I become the "perfect" target to ripoff. I love it when I tell them I'm an American and start to speak English and they have this look on their face.
Let me tell you what happened just today. My local friends and I did some karaoke at Avenue, very close to Burgos. As we were walking back to Burgos, I notice a taxi driver throwing in some luggage for a young, attractive Korean lady. She asked him how much and he said "only 300 pesos to The Citadel". The Citadel is RIGHT DOWN THE BLOCK, ONLY 2 MINUTES WALKING DISTANCE!!!" So I grabbed her luggage and we both walked together. I told the that tool that we didn't need his "help".
I really love it here. I have a company in the US and just opened up an office here last year. I'm having a great time but the taxi drivers just drive me crazy. Now, I just say "meter please". If they haggle, I just walk out. They'll say "200" and I say, "why 200 if the meter is only "60"? Again, I make plenty of money. It's not that. I just hate feeling taking advantage of. Just because I'm a foreigner and Korean looking does not mean I'm a walking ATM machine. If I walk into Jolibees, I don't get charged more because I'm a foreigner. It's the principle. Yes, these scabs bug the shit out of me. They give their own people a bad name. Because most are good, honest people. I have to put up with this crap every day. Some days, I'm just not in the mood. What other country, espeically in Asia do we have to put up with this? Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, Indonesia....all are safe places. Even Thailand, a third world country has decent drivers. When I tell people I'm in the Philippines, they all ask, "Is it safe?!"
I give a ton of money to charity organizations here. I love it. Giving is definitely one of the greatest gifts of life. I want to give my money to honest people. If the drivers take me to point A to point B, I'm happy and I tip well. Every time, I say, "Thank you for your professionalism".
I had two friends from the US that had visited me and after a week, they both said, "Man, I need to get the fuck out of this country. These people are just maggotts!" It made me feel so sad to hear that. Because most of the Filipinos are great people. But they were in Manila most of the time and they had some bad experiences with taxi drivers and the local police officers. ( for another posting ) Some of us that are here for a short time and majority of the time is with taxi drivers. So yeah, I understand how they feel.
Having said all this, something funny happen to me last week. I was at the Market Market mall in Fort Bonifacio and grabbed a cab to take me to Greenbelt Three. It was an old driver and I said, "Greenbelt 3". He said, "Duty Pree?" I said, "No, Greenbelt Three!" He said again, "Okay, Duty Free!". I didn't want him to take me to the airport so I said, "Never mind, just take me to Burgos". He said, "Pure Gold?" ( Pure Gold is all the way in Malate ) So I just started to give him directions. While he was driving, he asked me what I was doing here in the Phils. I said I owned a "call center". He said, "Oh, you're a carpenter?! " I started laughing so hard. I wish I could of taped our conversation. It was like a Seinfeld episode.
A few tips - before you go in the cab, check the gas tank. Many times, they are running on empty. Tell them you live here and not a tourist. Always text your friend their license number. ( written on the door ) Just in case something happens, you have their information. Let them see you do it. And before you walk out, look back on the seat. One time, my big, bulky Blackberry phone slipped through the cushion. ( I can't tell you how many friends have told me they lost their phone in the taxi )
I got a Benz in the US and I can't ship it and driver here. Second, I'm thinking of just getting a motorcyle. My friend loves it and thinks it's the best decision he's ever made. I would say most of my experiences are good. But I think these drivers are just killing this country. Yes, you may say it's only a $1. But it's not that. I have plenty of money. It's the principle.
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04-15-08 21:00 #2976
Posts: 10Dont ride alone
I'm staying at the Makati Shangrila. I'm from Daly City, CA and we all have our horror stories. Being a Filipino, we all have our own drivers pick us up at the airport. When the embassy warns you about the drivers here, you know it's bad. Most flights arrive late in the evenings, that's when most of the problems will arise. Last weekend, we had about 12 people wanting to go the SM MegaMall. You'd think that since the taxi was from a nicest hotel here in the Philippines, they would be honest. We took three cabs and all followed each other. Our meter was 110 from the Shangrila to the mall. The other two was 190 and 230. I asked both of the drivers why the fare was so much. Both said it was heavy traffic. Then one of my friends went up to both of the drivers and told him in tagalog that we all left at the same time and our taxi was following them. Both of them just put their head down and took 100 and walked away.
Try not to take a cab alone, especially if you're a female. A girl I used to date told me she had too much to drink at the Embassy and took a cab to San Juan. The driver pulled over and told her that she didn't have to pay him anything, just let him touch her in a few places. She freaked out and got out of the car.
Just use common sense. If they say no meter, just get out of the car and hail down another ride. And obviously, don't carry valuables with you.
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04-15-08 19:14 #2975
Posts: 131Taxi experience
After 5 years of travelling to Manila for business, I've had my share of both bad and good experience with the cab drivers...mostly good. But the bad ones just want to make me shoot someone.
My last one was a good one, checking out...bell boy loaded the cab and meter was down when I got in, about 4 blocks away we had to turn back coz I forgot something. Not much small talk, got to the airport, he tells me to wait while he gets me a cart. First time ever!
He loaded up the bags on the cart, meter was 140 Pesos. I gave him 500 Pesos and said thank you for the great service.
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04-15-08 14:57 #2974
Posts: 1342Not In Kansas
Originally Posted by Jasonkramer
That being said my experiences have been that they are pretty decent guys except for the erratic driving and false advertisement "I have aircon sign" :)
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04-15-08 14:10 #2973
Posts: 1856Originally Posted by Jasonkramer
I hope wherever you are now you are happy Jason.
AV
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