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  1. #2799

    Fleecing

    I was there it November. 1000 peso barfine, 2500 peso longtime. You talk to the girl for that. Look if they start that bs go to Angeles or la cafe hell I might as well monger at home otherwise.

  2. #2798

    Pay too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hawaii
    Dam it, I hate overpaying and spoiling the market. Shit!!! Sorry bros.

    At edsa, they made us pay a ladys drink too, for around 350, plus our beer, came out to around 1500 or so for drinks and barfine. And the mommy said the girls were 3000. Shit. So an even 3000 is all you pay for barfine and LT and no need buy ladys drink?? What about ST? I thought this was correct, because on 2 different nights, at different places, both mommys said the same thing, ladys drink + barfine = 1500 and 3000 for girl.

    And what are the prices at Roxas Blvd like East Asia? They were asking 6000 total. I think it was 2500 barfine and 3500 for girl? Shit, maybe it was 5000. Yeah I think it was 5k, ..... 2k for barfine and 3k for girl. Shit I forgot, it was either 5k or 6k. Little brother was doing the thinking at that time:) What is your price?

    What about the casas? One taxi driver said 2500, but we ended up paying 3000. ???
    Dan,

    Horney george is correct you pay too much at Edsa you can bargin BF to 1000peso on a slow night for LT it depend on the girl the hot one want 3000peso for LT and 2000p for ST but at end of the night price will go down fast.

    For the large ktv the BF is way too much you should sit down the talk to the girl and get their cell # and call them the next day for st I have done this many time at miss universe and got st for 1500 peso for hot model and I have done this it sauna also don't go to air force one is a rip off place and the girl there are only average .

    Fast eddie 48
    Last edited by Admin; 02-11-08 at 04:45.

  3. #2797
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornygeorge
    Dh: They are fleecing you man. Less than a month ago the barfine at EDSA Complex was 1000 and EVERY girl I took LT was very happy with 2000.

    The Roxas Bvld places like East Asia are well known as fleece joints aimed at Asian high rollers (Ditto Pegasus in Quezon City). Makati and Air Force One also.

    Your talk of the place in China with so many girls in one area sounds like Chang Ping. If not, please tell us about that place (even though this is Manila thread).

    Thanks
    Dam it, I hate overpaying and spoiling the market. Shit!!! Sorry bros.

    At edsa, they made us pay a ladys drink too, for around 350, plus our beer, came out to around 1500 or so for drinks and barfine. And the mommy said the girls were 3000. Shit. So an even 3000 is all you pay for barfine and LT and no need buy ladys drink?? What about ST? I thought this was correct, because on 2 different nights, at different places, both mommys said the same thing, ladys drink + barfine = 1500 and 3000 for girl.

    And what are the prices at Roxas Blvd like East Asia? They were asking 6000 total. I think it was 2500 barfine and 3500 for girl? Shit, maybe it was 5000. Yeah I think it was 5k, ..... 2k for barfine and 3k for girl. Shit I forgot, it was either 5k or 6k. Little brother was doing the thinking at that time:) What is your price?

    What about the casas? One taxi driver said 2500, but we ended up paying 3000. ???

  4. #2796
    Dh: They are fleecing you man. Less than a month ago the barfine at EDSA Complex was 1000 and EVERY girl I took LT was very happy with 2000.

    The Roxas Bvld places like East Asia are well known as fleece joints aimed at Asian high rollers (Ditto Pegasus in Quezon City). Makati and Air Force One also.

    Your talk of the place in China with so many girls in one area sounds like Chang Ping. If not, please tell us about that place (even though this is Manila thread).

    Thanks

  5. #2795

    Stringfellows

    I've got an upcoming trip and was wondering if Stringfellows in Ermita was back to having dancers and BF's? The last time I was there in Nov, Stringfellows was open but only had a couple of waitresses and zero dancers. They said the owners had some legal issues they were working out. I didn't stay even 2 minutes.

    Any update would be appreciated.

  6. #2794

    First PI trip

    Just wanted to say that I usually monger in China and this is my first trip to PI, Makati area is where we stayed. First couple of nights, it was hard getting adjusted to PI mongering, compared to China scene, where everything is pretty clean cut, no bargaining, and you pretty much know what you are buying without negotiating.

    Friday and Saturday
    Friday, the day of arrival, meet my friends that were in PI already and went to the Fort Bonifacio to watch friends play in a band. Did not get any action there, only non-wg there. Went to Asia Entertainment, and other bars in Roxas that night, but was to tired and headed back home. Saturday, went to Club Embassy in the Fort area, got no action there either. So we headed to Roxas Blvd, I just don’t like the fact that you need to do the deed in the establishment in one of the rooms that you need to rent. I found a real cutie from a bar next to Asia Entertainment, on the right side, we arrived late like 2am, and by the time I asked her to do the deed in the establishment at 3am, and she said she did not want to because it was late. She was hot, I regret not doing the deed earlier and not returning to her. So the first 2 days (Friday and Saturday), I did not get any action. The next day, I said to myself, I got to get laid, 2 days without any action in PI is just disgraceful.

    Sunday
    So we headed to Air Force One, got one from economy class. I think the only difference is that Econ class has older girls. Because the looks of the girls in all classes are pretty much the same. The cost was 3k, 1.5 k for girl and same for room. I think my friend said you can get first class girl for 5k, if you downgrade the room to business class, or something to that effect. Other wise the total costs are:

    Econ class = 3k
    Business class = 5k
    First class = 7k

    The girl I had, she looked so good with her clothes on, but with out it, her belly had ripples and fat, so I was kind of disappointed. The girl was loose as a goose, had to really concentrate to cum. She was 25 years old. But she gave a pretty good massage and CBJ, she was really a professional.

    Then we were off to Dynasty on Roxas Blvd. Found a really cute girl with the biggest perfect looking tits I ever saw on a skinny girl. I thought they were fake. But when she came down from the dance floor, I felt the merchandise and it was all good. Real nice perky tits, one of the best I have ever seen. She was med dark, but so what, she had a perfect rack. Anyways, paid a total of 6k for overnight. Forgot the break down, but part of the 6k was for bar fine. I also saw a cute young girl dancing, I wanted to take her out, but they said she was a virgin, I was like, huh? Anyways, she looked young enough to be one, and she was super cute looking. I asked all the girls about her and they said the same thing, virgin. I even asked the manager of her (aka the mommy), and she said the same thing, that she cannot go out. So I settled for the girl with the rack. She was pretty tight and good fun. We all went out the next day, I guess she liked me and did not want to go home early. We went to the flea market and Asia Mall and ice-skated. That was fun, we all had girls, so it was a good adventure with “gfe dates”. But they never ice skated before and they were hugging the rail all day. So me and my friend would race around and slap the girls asses as we sped by. This girl really liked me as she kept calling and texting me to go out again, but I just was too busy. Hahaha.

    Monday and Tuesday
    We went to the FireHouse, I forgot why we got there so late, but Edsa is one of the best and cheaper venues to take out girls. The talent here was one of the best I seen in PI and really cheaper than Roxas. Bar fine was 1500 with 1 drink and girl is 3000. So 4500 total. I took a girl out , she was tall and had a very nice lanky body. Her looks were only average. I forgot why I took her for another day, but I had her for 2 days, she went home at around noon and came back at 7pm. We went to Nirvana and had fun there with a Tequila Bottle. My friend did not have a girl, but there were some hot dancers there that was sitting with us and my friend, I thought, damn I should have went solo, these dancers are fine. But luckily for me, the dancers do not go out, unless they really like you.

    Wednesday
    The next day we hit the “casa’s”. These are kind of like BBS’s, like in China. Where all the girls are sitting on sofas around a room. You then choose a girl to be your date overnight. The cost is 3k, but I think you can get away with 2500. There are 3 casas in an area on Bautista Street. Only 2 to 5 minutes away from each other. I found a nice one, that had a hot body, but ok face. We all pulled from the same casa, so all the girls were friends. We wanted this, because it was Wednesday and it was ladies night at Club Embassy in Fort Bonifacio. Went there and had an amazing time with these young dates that were so happy to be in the number one club in Manila for the first time. So we got good GFE and headed back to my rental condo in the fort area. Drank more beer there and I thought we were going to have an orgy party, but we failed to do so, should have gotten the girls more drunk.

    Thursday
    We went back to Edsa and I found a girl in Samba, I forgot the name, but was the bar at the end where the food place is. She was hot, but, unfortunately, when we got back home to do the deed, I found she had a baby. So she was not tight , but it was enjoyable. She has a half sister, that was cute too, but I did not have a chance to get her. She called me the next day and wanted me to buy her out again, but I was too busy, hahaha.

    Friday and Saturday (last night)
    Went back to the casa, and pulled from a different casa place. She was cute and fun, so I chose her. She was really slim, had a decent size rack for her slimness, but she had an awesome voluptuous butt. She was young and medium tight. We went to the Embassy club again and had a lot of fun. I got the most drunk I have ever gotten in PI, drinking vodka and red bull. We got the 8k VIP table in the larger room. The clubs here are reasonably priced, with the 8k , you can buy 2 bottles of absolute, and a lot of red bull. I got so drunk, that I could not do the deed with the girl, till around 2pm, by that time I had to pay another 3k for another day with her. Not a bad deal and was very satisfied having this bubbly personality girl with me for another day. That last Saturday night, my friends went to Air Force One again, I had my date, so I ended up at SM mall for dinner and a movie with my date. These PI girls love watching movies. Thereafter, we went hunting to many places, I think they were called Classmates and Pegasus? Anyways, these bars are the high-end places and are really rip off places. At Pegasus, we spent 12k for 5 girls for an hour each, food, and beer. And you cannot take the girls out, I think. What a shitty deal. All this time we were checking out massage parlors, and go go dancing places, I had my casa girl tagging along. What a great attitude lady, she never complained or anything, and she was just like one of the boys partying with the boys, as she was the only girl traveling around with us. All my friends were still empty handed and it was getting late (3am) so we had to go to the proven winner, the Edsa complex. I told the boys there were 2 hot girls in Space, when I went there before. One was available but had a crappy attitude, and the other was drinking with a guy and was eventually taken out. Damn, we were too late. I bought this girl a drink and was feeling her up while my date was there, she said, 2 girls tonight, and I said maybe. Hahaha. I asked if it was ok and she said ok. As the time went by, I spent all my attention with the new girl and neglected the old girl, she got a little jealous, so I had to hug her for a second and all was good. Hahaha. Eventually my boys found some girls so we called it a night, as we had to head to the airport at noon.

    Conclusion
    Overall a fantastic trip. I was getting worried the first 2 days without any action. But as I think about it now, wow, it was helluva fun in PI. Different action than China, but overall, very comparable.

    China has prettier girls that have white milky skin. These girls are centrally located in one area, and are easy to get and find and the selection is very very huge. Think of a place with 400 girls, then imagine 30 of these places in this one town. All within walking distance. It is more guaranteed and the price structure is fixed in all establishment. No hassle and no negotiating. The hotels are also way cheaper than PI, and are of way better quality. The girls in general are alittle cheaper, more beautiful, and younger in China than in PI. The bad thing about China is that there is nothing to do during the day, except get massages or footies. And no one speaks English, but you may run into a WG that does.

    Daytime activities in PI are way more fun and enjoyable. Plus everyone speaks English. Many of these places are catered to foreigners and there a lot of malls with lots of activities, such as shopping, eating, movies, ice skating, billiards, bars, TGI Fridays, Hard Rock Café, etc… Very modern Americanized planned community/development city Fort Bonifacio, has USA like condos, strip malls, clubs, restaurants, schools, hospitals, etc…

    So PI is a great place, and has advantages over other places. Has the bars and go go dancing like Thailand. USA malls, communities, activities, etc. Everyone speaks English. And I feel the food is better than in China. Might be a retirement destination for me.

    PS. I posted this in the Makati Thread, not sure if it belongs here or there. Sorry.

  7. #2793
    Search "ermita" at google images and you should find maps.

    Search "la cafe", "g-point" and you should be able to find the web sites of those bars.

    Amazonia www.amazonia.com.ph

    Map attached: G is for G point, CB is the cherry blossom hotel.

    Why are you staying near the embassy? Swagman? Lovely place.

    If you can't spend a minute doing some Internet searching I doubt we'll ever be seeing a trip report from you.

    Anyway, have fun.

    X


    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Bud
    Will be doing my first visit to Manila since coming out of Viet Nam and would like to start the process of developing a "plan"!

    If you like you may PM me with any pertinent information!

    I will be staying in and around the American embassy and need to know how far the L A cafe and Robinsons Mall is?

    I leave in the late evening from Los Angeles with a stop in Hong kong [Cathy Pacific]. I would imagine the first thing on my agenda is to crash and burn because of the jet lag? after that I'm open to suggestions!

    As this is my first post I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the people who have proceeded me and have donated there time on this site to make it easier for those who follow.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails ErmitaMalate Map.JPG‎  

  8. #2792
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveAsian*****s
    I fall into the catagory of someone that LOVES new girls. In fact, I will spend an entire evening going from bar to bar to bar looking for a new girl. I love the shy nervousness of the girls. I love teaching them the business. I love the challange. I love the long night of getting them to take off their clothes, convincing them that it OK, showing them new positions. I love the fact they do not see themselves as prostitutes (yet), and give an emotional experiance that you cannot get from girls that have been doing this for a while. I love the fact that they often see you as a potential boyfriend and not a customer. I love the way they smell. Their hair, perfume and snatch. I love the way they kiss. I love the taste of their pussys. I love the fact that about a third off the girls will quit after their first customer as they decide that the line of work is not for them. So you end up with the phone number of nice girl, who is not getting pounded every night, but is allways willing to meet up with you for some extra cash. I love the look on their face when they see a western sized dick for the fist time. But what I REALLY LOVE is look on their face when they feel it inside them for the first time.

    I hate pros. They way it is all about business. From their "hom much" in the bar, to their "give me more" after the fact. I hate their stinky pussys. I hate the way they just lie there while you fuck them. I hate the way they want to leave right after you blow their load.

    But you are the lucky one. It is MUCH easier to find an experienced prostitute in Manila then a nice girl who is at their first day on the job.
    I agree 100% with you. So I kind of prefer the younger ones, because the older ones have been pounded and pounded day in and day out for years.

    I like how new girls are tight and hug your dick with their pussys. Oh what a feeling, when they are really tight. Bust out the KY. :)

  9. #2791
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Bud
    I will be staying in and around the American embassy and need to know how far the L A cafe and Robinsons Mall is?
    I hope you mean only that you'll be visiting the embassy. It's possible the military security people detailed there stay in the embassy, but most of the professional staff live in a separate compound a couple miles away. (If you're military and been assigned there, lucky you.) There are, however, a number of reasonable hotels within a couple blocks of the embassy.

    To get to LA Cafe from the embassy, cross Roxas Blvd. near the main visitor entrance of the embassy, then go keep going another block to the Northeast (away from Manila bay) to M. H. del Pilar. There might be an alley or two between Roxas and del Pilar, but not with any traffic to speak of. Turn right on del Pilar and walk about 4 blocks to LA Cafe, which is on the right at the corner of Romero-Salas. There are a bunch of sleazy looking money changing places and a few small clubs (including a couple with p4p ladies) in this stretch of del Pilar and you may get harrassed by guys trying to sell you belts, "rare" coins, viagra and cialis, wallets, etc. Don't do business with them, and keep your money concealed and covered.

    You can't miss LA Cafe; it's all lit up with advertising signs. About a block earlier on a corner on the left side you will go past Amazonia, also a freelancer pickup bar.

    Another route from the embassy is to just go South on Roxas (turn right after coming out the visitor gate) about the euqivalent of 4 blocks until you see a hotel called Boulevard Mansion across the street on the backside of the little frontage street. Romero-Salas is the next street to the left after Boulevard Mansion. The street is real narrow here, but when it widens after the chain link fence LA Cafe will be on your left. Actually, there's a little alley that runs behind LA Cafe, and over to the right of Romero-Salas along this alley is a little open air restaurant where the LA freelancers often eat and get away from the smoke in the club.

    To get from LA to Robinson's Mall, go out the front door of LA and keep going up Romero-Salas two blocks. It dead ends against a new highrise apartment building. Turn left, go about 100 yards, and Robinson Mall is on your right.

    Enjoy!

  10. #2790
    Violent crime against foreigners is not common and the street punks will not want to mix it up with foreigners (especially if you are not alone). Most cops, especially in areas frequented by foreigners, have been told by their bosses to come down hard on those attacking foreigners (foreign image of PI is VERY important to the elites). Pickpocketing, burglary, petty theft, bag snatching and the like is very common against foreigner and Pinoy alike, but armed robbery or violent muggings of foreigners are much rarer.

    I sure feel safer there than in most any major city in the Americas (save Canada). Sorry your friend lost her shopping money Skip; the thieves KNOW poor Pinays carry lots of cash in December so that type of theft spikes then, or so I am told.

  11. #2789

    Some information please

    Will be doing my first visit to Manila since coming out of Viet Nam and would like to start the process of developing a "plan"!

    If you like you may PM me with any pertinent information!

    I will be staying in and around the American embassy and need to know how far the L A cafe and Robinsons Mall is?

    I leave in the late evening from Los Angeles with a stop in Hong kong [Cathy Pacific]. I would imagine the first thing on my agenda is to crash and burn because of the jet lag? after that I'm open to suggestions!

    As this is my first post I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the people who have proceeded me and have donated there time on this site to make it easier for those who follow.

  12. #2788
    Quote Originally Posted by BuleDaddy
    The girls always get nervous and clutch their stuff when walking from the LA Cafe past the money changers towards the church and 7-11. I saw some punks beat the living crap out of another pinoy. They continued stomping on his head ever after he was knocked out.
    About this time last year there was a rash of purse snatching crimes in Ermita and in Pasay City. The MO seemed to be two guys on a loud, small motorcycle. The driver would drive very close to passersby, usually women but occasionally a man, and the passeger on the rear would snatch the pursestrap, camera strap, or whatever presented itself. The word was out among the girls at LA Cafe, and most were appropriately worried. One of my favorites lost her purse containing 10,000 pesos -- which she'd carried to do Christmas shopping at Robinson's Place -- this way. The police eventually caught a couple guys who were involved in a string of these robberies when some Pinoy who'd been victimized by them recognized them in a restaurant some where in Pasay City and called the police. The police gave chase and shot at them as they fled, catching them and wounding one or both with gunfire. The reports of this sort that had been showing up daily in the paper then died down. Problem is, poverty always breeds more crime like this eventually. I suspect this sort of thing and the usual gauntlet of beggars that hang out waiting for people with money to depart LA Cafe -- rather than the threat of violent attack on their bodies -- are what causes the girls to clutch their purses.

  13. #2787

    The LA Cafe girls get nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by X Man
    I think the earlier poster meant that Ermita / LA Cafe was "central" and Malate was an outlying area from there (esp. if you are on foot).

    The most dangerous thing I've encountered in these areas are the fkd up drivers and a different kind of danger -- the billy boys / tranvestites. I'd also pay attention when the kids gather around you asking for money. Never had a problem,but I keep my hand on my wallet. If you want to be a nice guy, buy some food and give it to them. I never give kids money. I assume most of them are "employees".

    There are some dark, quiet patches in between. Again, I've never been bothered but I tend to walk quickly and confidently in those areas. Obviously, if you are staggering around drunk you'll be a nice target.

    Oh, and once in a while the money changers might try some tricks. Just use commons sense.

    X
    The girls always get nervous and clutch their stuff when walking from the LA Cafe past the money changers towards the church and 7-11. I saw some punks beat the living crap out of another pinoy. They continued stomping on his head ever after he was knocked out.

  14. #2786

    Malate resturant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornygeorge
    Makati restaurants tend to charge US prices, although one can eat very well in either place. Even Angeles has improved a lot for epicures (although Manila and Cebu remain WAY ahead of Angeles in terms of quality restaurants).

    A particular favorite in Malate is the Teriyaki Dragon right near Robinson's Pedro Gil entrance. Other end of the block from BDO (formerly Equitable bank). They have the grill in your table where you can cook your own meat or seafood which is delicious. I suggest the Jrouse (imported lean beef, which costs about $10). Beware Japanese sized portions if you are a big eater though. Excellent Japanese style rice too, MUCH tastier than Filipino, Chinese or Thai style rice.
    Horney George,

    You are right Malate is a good all around locations to stay in Manila I always stay there Pan pacific is a good hotel near LA cafe and the Hyatt casinos and all the good Chinese, Korean and Japanese resturant food is so cheap here even with the small portion you can hit the mall food court if you still hungry and get a quick meal for $3 USD at Kenny Roger Roaster and pick up a short time at the mall at the same time for $ 20 usd.

    Fast eddie 48

  15. #2785

    Malate is also the area With Best Restaurant Selection

    Makati restaurants tend to charge US prices, although one can eat very well in either place. Even Angeles has improved a lot for epicures (although Manila and Cebu remain WAY ahead of Angeles in terms of quality restaurants).

    A particular favorite in Malate is the Teriyaki Dragon right near Robinson's Pedro Gil entrance. Other end of the block from BDO (formerly Equitable bank). They have the grill in your table where you can cook your own meat or seafood which is delicious. I suggest the Jrouse (imported lean beef, which costs about $10). Beware Japanese sized portions if you are a big eater though. Excellent Japanese style rice too, MUCH tastier than Filipino, Chinese or Thai style rice.

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