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  1. #18179
    Quote Originally Posted by GDreams  [View Original Post]
    No it is not long. You fill out a form with supporting documentation. If you have a legitimate case it takes a couple of weeks. The credit card companies take the money from the bank, the bank of the supplier then deals with the supplier. The credit card companies are international organisations and have consistent rules. They have an issuing bank but you are following Visa or MasterCard etc rules.
    YMMV. I find different. Even in US. In the good old days, AMEX was fantastic. Worldwide. But nowadays, they are the pretty much same as their competitors. Maybe just a little better.

    My caution is don't prepay if you can or use a credit card guarantee that you might need to spend time resolving.

    Even on cards with built in insurance, it will take time and money to get your money back if you ever do. With Airplane tickets are are stuck. You need to pay upfront. If the airline cancels your flight, you might be moved to a different flight automatically. But getting cash back even in the best of times is time consuming and expensive.

    YMMV. I don't care what you do. I am just sharing my experience.

  2. #18178
    Quote Originally Posted by Bushes  [View Original Post]
    Even if you are protected, it can be time consuming and long.
    No it is not long. You fill out a form with supporting documentation. If you have a legitimate case it takes a couple of weeks. The credit card companies take the money from the bank, the bank of the supplier then deals with the supplier. The credit card companies are international organisations and have consistent rules. They have an issuing bank but you are following Visa or MasterCard etc rules.

  3. #18177
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    Usually your agreement with the credit card company is that you have to get something for your money or you can dispute a charge.

    That is why when tour operators or airlines went bankrupt people who had not flown were refunded money by the card company. People who had flown one way got something for their money and so were out of luck for the remainder.

    You might have a fight to get the money back but if you can demonstrate that you were unable to use the hotel because it was not accepting guests you should prevail in the long run.

    Of course that still does not solve the issue of where you will sleep tonight.
    A lot depends on where you get the credit card and where you "are". Most Western countries have good consumer protection rules. Some credit card companies are better than others. In the old days, Amex was the gold standard. It also depends on the "level" or color of your card, as in how much, if anything, you pay in membership fees.

    Even if you are protected, it can be time consuming and long.

    In the current environment, some major companies are playing games and dragging things out.

    If possible, I would not give a credit hold. There are plenty of places that would skip a credit card hold. Or use a travel agency.

    It is very difficult to travel internationally now and those operators still up are desperate.

  4. #18176
    Quote Originally Posted by Bushes  [View Original Post]
    If you are on your own dime, I would not do anything that requires a credit card or prepayment guarantee. ......t.
    Usually your agreement with the credit card company is that you have to get something for your money or you can dispute a charge.

    That is why when tour operators or airlines went bankrupt people who had not flown were refunded money by the card company. People who had flown one way got something for their money and so were out of luck for the remainder.

    You might have a fight to get the money back but if you can demonstrate that you were unable to use the hotel because it was not accepting guests you should prevail in the long run.

    Of course that still does not solve the issue of where you will sleep tonight.

  5. #18175
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Are there any flight and / or Visa changes to go along with the relaxing of the hotel restrictions?

    G.
    If you are on your own dime, I would not do anything that requires a credit card or prepayment guarantee. You don't know which companies will be standing and it will be hard to get cash refunds. Even large establishments are trying to pull fast ones, IMHO. It is only going to get worse. And rules can change rapidly.

    Some hotels silently closed because confirmed case (s) stayed there and they reopen. Others close to wait out the storm.

    Glad to see some posts of people helping out. I just hope my efforts will not get me in trouble. Can support a couple villages and some girls close by but the girls close by are too close. Last thing Ineed is one loose cannon.

    There are exemptions but there are over zealous dirty harries who might shoot first.

  6. #18174
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]


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    Would you fly to the USA now and holiday? I see that as a good question to ask about the Philippines.
    Even without the virus I have no desire to go to the USA.

  7. #18173
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Secondly, travel restrictions have yet to be relaxed here and I can't drive across town, let alone catch a non essential international flight.

    Enjoy. G.
    I would agree with that best keep your leash tight but then when unleashed am sure your balls so big they will explode LOL.

    DG. Yes agree and same for UK and some parts of Europe.

  8. #18172
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    Some carriers have flights available (domestically also) but would you want to jump on the first plane into a country that has yet to control the virus? For many tourism will change forever and for some they won't care and hope they never get infected.

    Would you fly to the USA now and holiday? I see that as a good question to ask about the Philippines.
    It might be safer to fly from USA to Philippines. At least much more pleasurable in PH than USA!

  9. #18171

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraderJ  [View Original Post]
    Some hotels like Dusit Thani seems to be accepting reservations from 16th of May onwards. Let's take it as a positive sign.

    J.
    I think a lot of this is to get cash flow. Ryanair have opened their autumn schedule and are charging a premium. If they have to refund no problem as it will take them many months to do it. Spanish hotels are (supposed to be) opening but they are wasting their time if they cannot get British and German customers. Real chicken and egg stuff. Then we have the bums British Airways gave emergency evacuation flights to complaining there was no social distancing. BA should have left the bums rot.

  10. #18170
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    Would you fly to the USA now and holiday? I see that as a good question to ask about the Philippines.
    I was just asking to gauge how much the PI restrictions are being unwound.

    I've no plans on travelling anywhere soon. Firstly, because of the risks that you mentioned would be much higher than where I am now. Secondly, travel restrictions have yet to be relaxed here and I can't drive across town, let alone catch a non essential international flight.

    Enjoy. G.

  11. #18169
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Are there any flight and / or Visa changes to go along with the relaxing of the hotel restrictions?

    G.
    Some carriers have flights available (domestically also) but would you want to jump on the first plane into a country that has yet to control the virus? For many tourism will change forever and for some they won't care and hope they never get infected.

    Would you fly to the USA now and holiday? I see that as a good question to ask about the Philippines.

  12. #18168

    No changes in visa or entry to Philippines

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Are there any flight and / or Visa changes to go along with the relaxing of the hotel restrictions?

    G.
    There is how ever new softened stance from minister of tourism so let's see what next 2-4 weeks bring. For government news I follow the government news agency https://www.pna.gov.ph/.

    J.

  13. #18167
    Quote Originally Posted by TraderJ  [View Original Post]
    Some hotels like Dusit Thani seems to be accepting reservations from 16th of May onwards. Let's take it as a positive sign.

    J.
    Are there any flight and / or Visa changes to go along with the relaxing of the hotel restrictions?

    G.

  14. #18166

    Some Manila hotels opened up their reservation systems

    Some hotels like Dusit Thani seems to be accepting reservations from 16th of May onwards. Let's take it as a positive sign.

    J.

  15. #18165
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    7) Donor countries allow Mongers' departure for international travel.

    1 thru 6 are irrelevant if Mongers cannot even leave their home town. In many countries that may be well into 2021.
    8) Philippines BoI lifts its ban on tourist visas so that Mongers who are allowed to leave home towns can be admitted to Philippines.

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