Manila

[Transporter]

Had the itch to turn an overnight layover into a night in Manila.


If you've made it this far: In LA Caf is 5000 p the going rate or did she throw a high number only a noob would jump on? Chances of negotiating powers? And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?

Upstairs 5 K is about right, but there are factors involved in negotiations; supply and demand, how much competition is there upstairs; what time is it, as usually they will turn one trix and they are done, so if it is very late and they have not secured a customer for the outing, you may have the leverage; is she independant, there are mommies up there that take a cut; do you look like easy money, the girls will target the three threes, so if you look korean, japanese, or chinese you do have some leveraging power; was she there alone, or did she travel there with a bunch of other girls, packless girls are more liberal with the prices; where she lived, the farther away she traveled to work the night, the more desperate she will be to get a customer before returning home as the higher her investment was to make the trip. There are probably a lot more things, but since you did not do the initial interview, it would seem worthless. Social media exchange is absolutely normal, Whatsapp tho is not as popular as viber or fb mess, but I guess things are changing.

[CenTexCrash]

Had the itch to turn an overnight layover into a night in Manila.

On paper Tokyo flight landed at 12 am, morning after would resume 10 am to Singapore.

Legit opportunity to get 4-6 hours of the night. I think.

How it played out:

Got to Tokyo Narita, was promptly informed the JetStar flight was delayed 2 hours. *Sigh* can still salvage some of the night I think. Booked a $22 hotel as a safety measure. Land at 2 almost 3 am. MNL customs is a breeze. Exchanged leftover yen and ringgit for pisos.

Had my heart set on LA Café. Instead of UBER there's GRAB, ordered a ride to hotel to freshen up / drop luggage. Talked about something something in Manila, driver is an expat from San Diego CA, said he'd leave the ride open if I wanted to drop off my luggage hop back in car he take me to Burgos Street and even play wingman. I declined. Felt like I might be vulnerable to some kind of catch with that little sleep.

Got into LA Café waaaaaaay later than I planned, almost 4 am with a 10 am flight looming.

Order a separate ride from hotel to LA Café, ordered a token Sprite not to make a scene, couple next to me talked about do's don't's of mongering and told me unwind and walk around check out extra room bar upstairs. Read on ISG and other online sources LA Cafe's 2nd floor is VIP cover charge supposedly. Took a chance. Saw a cashier post but no cashier and the 10 minutes I was up there no one haggled me for cover charge. Oh well.

A cute girl in group of girls smiled when I looked in her direction, walked over to her, we talked. She said room next door + 5000 pisos for 3 hours. I wasn't thinking I just said Let's do it.

Problem I felt like worrying about later: I only brought 3000 pisos. Had more except Grab fees and hotel took a cash deposit. Should've said something up front, my bad.

We go in, shower up, we cuddle DFK, starts with a BBBJ but is firm on condom required for penetration. Wants doggy, I flip her over and go full DATY, she says it's the most intense oral she's received in forever. Do multiple positions for the first session. Snuggle. Get pissed off because my travel baggy back at the (sleep) hotel has 10-12 condoms and 0 on my person so I had to buy some from the room service FML.

Start second round. Ask her what's the craziest thing she's done, she giggles didn't really answer the question. Start with my favorite her head upside down at edge of bed, rubbing her body while her BBBJ skills go to town. More positions later I finished round 2.

Felt tired, looked at time might have been 4:30 am by this point. I couldn't do this. I told her I was pressed for time (Thanks JetStar) confessed I don't have 5000 pisos on me, so instead of 5000 p for 3 hours here's 3000 p for 45 m, you can go back in the café and track down a different dud to do the deed. Initially she was disappointed not aggressive but did agree to settle at 3000. THEN she typed in her phone # into my WhatsApp and said if I'm ever in Manila again, she'll bring her friend for a full FFM trio. Sent her on her way.

Napped at hotel. Showered up, made it to NAIA for my 10 am flight to Singapore. No delays this time from JetStar. Girl texts me to make sure I made my flight, kiss emoji. Flight takes off. BUT THEN-.

8 minutes in the sky Pilot finds one engine's oil pressure not reading well, makes emergency return to MNL. We're asked to sit in the gate room for 45-60 minutes while crews whack at the engine while we watch. JetStar was running light on stall tactics. The 45 minute wait lasted 6 hours, 2 hours after we should have touched down in Singapore, JetStar reps announce to 180 smiling faces the plane is unfit to fly and all other JetStar direct and connecting routes to SIN are booked up.

They offered a 5 star room in Manila. I could have invited that girl.

I really had to be in Singapore. I grabbed my luggage. I got a ride to another zip code to the terminal that caters to name brand carriers and shelled out $205 USD to Singapore Airlines and hopped on a Boeing 777 that wasn't even half full. (Why two airlines can't form a truce in this instance idk) Caught the second to last subway leaving Singapore Changi for the night. Got to my hotel 5 minutes before the desk staff locked up for the night.

Never heard a peep from JetStar about a refund.

Every other week, girl and I on WhatsApp text random sweet nothings. Let her know about my next stopover this April from Seoul to Sydney. Already locked up flight Cebu Pacific Monday night MNL-SYD, and eyeballing at flight Saturday afternoon Seoul ICN-CRK. I didn't tell her about the CRK part.

If you've made it this far: In LA Café is 5000 p the going rate or did she throw a high number only a noob would jump on? Chances of negotiating powers? And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?

[Josh Dales]

Why marry a hooker when there are so many chicks out there that are not hookers to choose from? This I will never understand. It is like going to a car lot and choosing the most raggedy beat up used rental car that you know you will have to pour money into and paying full price for it. If you are out to make a fresh start, then choose a fresh person.

True words.

So many 'white knights' wants to live out the Richard Gere vs Julia Robers Pretty Woman fantasy.

It is a fantasy. But you (new) guys don't have to be the one picking up the tab, when everybody and their old granddad have had their fun with 'your' (yeah, right.) sweatheart.

Respect the woman, and have fun with the P4P girls, but meanwhile also date the girl in the shop, restaurant, ticket seller or whatever she might be doing for a living.

Date anyone that gets up in the morning and puts in +8 hours of work. They will be a better match.

And don't worry, there will be endless lines of white knights standing ready to save 'your' sweatheart.

She will be okay.

And also, you do not need to marry. Tell her that you will take good care of her (and do that) - all should be fine.

Beware of (any) woman that press wedding early on in a realationship. Its a sign of warning.

[Mr Enternational]

All conjecture again! Can we get actual and factual experience reports?

I did that back in January. Now can we get actual and factual reports on someone living happily ever after with a hooker?

Here is another case. A close buddy of mine who is a pretty streetwise guy met this chick at the hooker disco his first trip to Brazil. This was when and where I met him as well. He took Portuguese classes at the University of California at Berkely before even going and spoke the language damn good. He is the reason for me stepping up my game with the language. After a few more trips this chick ends up knocked up.

When the baby comes out it is obvious to everyone else that it is not his. He is a dark skinned American guy and this baby is definitely the result of a Brazilian guy. He goes to the embassy to get a passport for "his" son. He also gets a fiance visa for the chick to visit him in the States. When she visits him she gets knocked up again. This baby is obviously his. Against everyone's advice he marries the chick and moves her to the States.

One day he is gone on a trip for work and some guy writes on her facebook thanks for last night, etc. He got home and asked if it was true and she admitted it. They broke up. But whatever that time you have to be married until the person gets their final paperwork has not elapsed. So he is still on the hook for taking care of her and the kids. The time is up by now because this was years ago. I don't know if he still has to pay her, but he still has to pay for the kids.

You think he would have learned his lesson, but I guess not. We were in Colombia one day and I let him use my phone. A couple of months later I noticed that he had left facebook opened on his account. Some message is on there about him sending money to hookers in Colombia. This guy, I tell you!

*Forgot to mention I was searching for something on the internet with some coworkers one day and came across a porn video that the Brazilian chick had done back when those guy would go shoot all their movies down there. I sent it to him and he said he already knew about it.

I have another buddy that married and imported a Brazilian hooker and she ended up fucking a professional baseball player. She had originally met the baseball player in Brazil before, but my buddy did not know that. So he imports pussy for another guy to have. Divorced as well.

Why marry a hooker when there are so many chicks out there that are not hookers to choose from? This I will never understand. It is like going to a car lot and choosing the most raggedy beat up used rental car that you know you will have to pour money into and paying full price for it. If you are out to make a fresh start, then choose a fresh person.

So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.

[Goferring]

Can we get actual and factual experience reports?

I'm a bit hazy on what you want factual reports on.

Guys that married hookers only to see their life fall apart? There are allready many 1st and 2nd hand reports on the forum discussing just that. I've got no reason to doubt the honesty of any of them.

Guys that married Asian civilians, had a little fun on the side and lived happily ever after? I personally know several guys here and outside the forum that have done exactly that. I'm not going to name names but just as my post to PinayPounder showed the well work path to failure there are also some common traits to the relationships that last decades and don't cost him a fortune:

Boy meets girl in suburbia; not a bar or immediate online hook up.

Boy and girl are roughly similar age groups, education level and experience / worldliness.

Boy does not select girl merely because of her looks or BJ skills; they actually have things in common and can hold a conversation.

Boy does not do stupid shit just because he can; no fucking the relatives, friends etc.

Fun and domestic bliss are kept totally separate. Boy has fun but ensures he does not do anything to embarrass the girl or her family to her friends or the outside world.

I'm not saying there are not many, many money hungry, thieving, mercenary girls out there for whom a relationship should be avoided at all costs. However, to suggest that all Asian girls fit this description and a solid long term relationship is impossible is just plain wrong.

* before anyone jumps down my thought, I didn't say that marriage or LTRs are for everyone. That's a totally different discussion.

Cheers. G

[Dg8787]

Unfortunately, fellas who marry hookers do so dreaming of a life of unlimited long-time. They are drawn to delusions of waking each morning to a slobby blowjob until they blow her brains, and skilled prostitute sex bareback cum-in-pussy with unlimited lifetime pops. When they wake up, the reality of marriage to a Pinay hooker is very different to the dream. LOL!

You and Pedro seem to have it all figured out. Is this from personal experience? Or just book learning or reading lifetime novels?

All conjecture again! Can we get actual and factual experience reports?

P.S. I am beginning to think CM and PM are all the same.

[Wicked Roger]

Hi there,

Does anyone have any information on the S&M scene in Manila, specifically professional Dommes? I have found one website of a lady calling herself Domina Fire and would be interested to know if anyone has any experiences with her or any other pro Domme in Manila. Many thanks.

There is some but best PM me on this as there are numbers not web site links.

You did ask he same on Poland 10 years ago but never shared after so is there in Warsaw as I know where and how etc so be interested to know your contributions ion that area as I am there again soon.

Best PM me as can't give out names and number on the threads.

[Ogman]

Gents:

Appreciate the Horizon Recommendation. Lots of youtube info for them. Are there some of those less quality strip clubs with private rooms where more services could be negitiated? I have heard there are bars in the less popular areas where you can get a BJ under the table or in a back room. We cannot publicize such places as the police likely follow this but I would appreciate a PM with any recommendations.

Alternatively, AC is great since I like sitting at Kokomos and watching independents walk by. Any good food courts or street bars where that can be done in greater Manila? What about closer to the airport like other cities? I guess traffic is too bad to have places to cruise SW loops.

[Redgrouper]

Hi there,

Does anyone have any information on the S&M scene in Manila, specifically professional Dommes? I have found one website of a lady calling herself Domina Fire and would be interested to know if anyone has any experiences with her or any other pro Domme in Manila. Many thanks.

[Chocha Monger]

And not just for Christmas. If you want to find love in a brothel, then go ahead. If you want to make a fortune playing blackjack in las Vegas, go ahead. But don't proffer it as a life plan. If you want someone to cook and iron for you, hire a maid. Recognise your limits and what you bring to the table.

Women do not want to be with folk who make their grandfathers look young. Exceptions have daddy issues.

Marriage means commitment and that takes effort and time and starting form roughly similar bases.

This website must have millions of separate posts but only Ten Commandments.

1. Hookers are for sex, not for marriage.

2. Hookers are, by and large, emotionally damaged..

Unfortunately, fellas who marry hookers do so dreaming of a life of unlimited long-time. They are drawn to delusions of waking each morning to a slobby blowjob until they blow her brains, and skilled prostitute sex bareback cum-in-pussy with unlimited lifetime pops. When they wake up, the reality of marriage to a Pinay hooker is very different to the dream. LOL!

[WestCoast1]

Did somebody mention pole dancers.

Where are the places to go to see active, attractive and skilled pole dancers in Manila? I'm talking entertainers not the zoned out chicks shuffling around a pole we normally see. Naked is also good.

Horizon's on Burgos. Girls are not for takeout like other gogo bars. One dancer at a time, all do good work. Songs and choreography seem to showcase the girl's dancing and pole talents. No bored stage-dance shuffling. Multi-national lineup of dancers, including Russian girls. Its a few doors down from Ringside, across the street from Wowowow bar. Unfortunately not naked.

[Goferring]

Burgos St Makati, Horizon's Gentleman's club. Good pole dancers from various countries, more US-style, one girl at a time (not the usual plethora of bored shuffling), good erotic pole dancing (girls are not for takeout).

LA Cafe in Malate, lots of eye candy later at night, all girls for takeout.

Did somebody mention pole dancers. 🤩.

Where are the places to go to see active, attractive and skilled pole dancers in Manila? I'm talking entertainers not the zoned out chicks shuffling around a pole we normally see. Naked is also good. 😎.

I'll need to be careful. I have an absolute weakness for dancers. I was totally kunt struck by a Sabang dancer for several years. She could spin around, up and down a chrome pole like it was magic. Nightly workouts gave her a super toned body which she put to great use back in the room or anywhere I liked on the walk home. So much fun I would bar fine her weeks at a time. Saved me a fortune when she no longer needed the bar and went freelance. Fuck I miss those days.

[WestCoast1]

Back to the point, I see a lot about Makati and EDSA, but what about other areas of greater Manila. Are there recommendable bars in other parts of the city where an ex-pat can go to find a quickie with a working girl? How about a gentleman's club where harmless visual stimulation can be found?

Burgos St Makati, Horizon's Gentleman's club. Good pole dancers from various countries, more US-style, one girl at a time (not the usual plethora of bored shuffling), good erotic pole dancing (girls are not for takeout).

LA Cafe in Malate, lots of eye candy later at night, all girls for takeout.

[Transporter]

I'm sorry, I mis-spoke. It wasn't load I bought, it was a package. I want to say 500 PHP for a week unlimited data. I should have just bought load, then signed up for a plan through my phone. I like the idea of buying a load card before I leave.

This was so long ago, that I don't know if it is still relevant today. But I remember for some reason I wanted to or had to buy a sim card and get load as I exited the airport (can't remember, but probably because I wanted to update a girl or girls I was meeting so that they could get on there way and we could meet faster as opposed to getting to the hotel and then buying my sim and texting the girl (s). Could save me a few hours). I purchased the sim and the remainder of 1000 pesos for load, figuring that it should last me a good part of a week and I could always add load later. Had them install it and add the load, he showed me the balance of 900 something load and I paid him and left. After a couple of days I ran out of load? I know I was texting a lot of girls, but still that was a bit fast. Did some research and found out that when texting different networks, it cost more but at that time it still wouldn't have burned up my load. Also found out that there are sim cards that people sell that steal load. Possible. Came to the conclusion that they sold me load that had a short life (cheaper for them to buy) so my load expired before I used them.

[Ogman]

Call me post police, but there seems to be a large number of posts here related to phones and SIM cards and data plans that would be more suited to the general info thread.

On a separate note I wonder how mongering was done before the advent of mobile phone technology. Or anything else for that matter.

First off, I cannot agree more that post about the efficacy of marrying pinays or getting your phone to work are not what the location specific forums are for. I do not want my fellow mongers / cheongsters to stop posting here but it would be good to take some of these to the Philippines General Info forum and focus more on the where and how's of Manila.

Back to the point, I see a lot about Makati and EDSA, but what about other areas of greater Manila. Are there recommendable bars in other parts of the city where an ex-pat can go to find a quickie with a working girl? How about a gentleman's club where harmless visual stimulation can be found?