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  1. #16882
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    Well to answer your question: I have gotten to know Mama Lisa when she worked in Hollywood, then another club (forgot that name) and now she works in Dimples. Dimples is rarely mentioned on the forum but for me it is comfortable and low pressure. Unlike the other clubs it is smaller and perhaps more personal. But that is my "opinion" for what it is worth. Since she knows me and knows the type of girl I like her recommendations are well accepted.
    Thanks for letting us know the name of the bar. I will check out Dimples when I return to Makati.

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Hollywood, next to Bourbon, on the Makati Ave end of Burgos? That was my first Burgos BF many years ago. Back in the heyday (whenever that was) you could find 20-30 lookers there, along the bench seating wall to the right inside the door. Today there are a dozen girls working the place, with 2-3 lookers, the rest mostly older chubs. Just sitting down for a drink in the place will get you 3-4 girls who will sit and chat you up without a drink, give chair massage, like that. One night I sat along the bench seat in the dark area and shooed away all the girls except a late 20's spinner (one child). Just chatting her up we asked the usual questions. I always try and find out where they are from, what town, to make a connection if I have been there before. Sure enough, she is from one of the province where I have several girls. In chat I asked her how much her tip was when she barfined and she said 3000. I asked if she was OK to an amount considerably less than 3 k and she said "Up to you" (music to my ears).

    I had my number already written on some small slips of paper in my pocket before I went out for the evening. I asked the girl if she was interested in afternoon trabaho for my tip amount and she said yes. I handed her my folded number and she stuck it in her bra. And with that simple trick, she afternoon sessioned twice over the next 2 weeks (pics in PG one day). If you would like a pro-tip regarding giving your number to a bargirl (without her getting caught doing it), please PM me.

    To the left of Dimples (perspective: standing outside Dimples on the sidewalk, looking straight at the Dimples front door) I think is the last bar, Go Bananas. Some fun can be had inside there buying LD for the girls.

    Back to Dimples. One of my fav hangouts. Lineup can be 10-30+ girls (staggered shifts, about 10-12 girls come on at shift opening around 6-7 pm, then bunches more roll in closer to 10 pm; happy hour ends around 8 pm, and BTW the happy hour barfine is 1/2 the regular barfine of 3900 during HH). Reasons Dimples is one of my favs: A number of girls are former Stardust girls (had several regular from SD who are still regulars, some have stopped working bars and some moved to Dimples when SD closed). Other reason: Two of the best massage girls on earth. Ask for Angelica, she will rip the muscles off your back while massaging. There are about 5 lookers who are stage dancers, most of the rest of the girls are either blah, or fug-chublies. However, some of them are regulars of mine, like the Hollywood girl.

    Hope this helps Natty.
    Great post Westie and chock full of useful info.

    I like to arrange to see my favorite bar girls outside of their bars too. My repeat girls are most accommodating. How they can get away from their bars for weeks at a time to hang with me is beyond my understanding, but they do. LOL. I always thought that Burgos Bars in particular and the Manila scene in general was better than other locations in terms of the quality of "professional" girls. Working around the barfines makes Burgos Bars price competitive as well. My approach is a little different than yours. I enjoy going to the bars to meet girls. For the 1st time with a new girl I will buy the drinks, have fun in the bar, and if all is good, I will barfine her. But after that 1st night the girls all offer workarounds for subsequent get together's and I never have to barfine them again unless I want to party in their bar.

    I skipped MNL on my last trip to SE Asia in favor of spending a much longer time than my usual in Jakarta, but not on my upcoming trip. I really miss Filipina nation. I can't wait to walk around Makati again and check out the bars. I know some great girls in Bottoms and Plan B that I plan to see again. I already have dates with my 2 Bottoms girls and have bought them some presents that I know they will flip over, but I also want to find the time to wander around and see what's happening in Dimples, Rogues, that new bar where Stardust used to be, and Go Bananas among others. I have never been to Go Bananas.

    It is too bad about the temporary closure of Cotton Club over at the EDSA Entertainment Complex. One of my favorite girls from my last visit is a Cotton Club girl from Mindanao. She has been MIA on Viper for a couple of months and I was hoping to get some info on her or if she is gone gone take out one of her sexy little Cotton Club look a like girlfriends instead. My Cotton Club girl and her girlfriends are of a very similar type/spec and they look almost like sisters. LOL. But no worries. I know I'm going to have a great time once I set foot back in the PI. I will send you a PM when I arrive. First round is on me if you are in MNL.

    NB.

  2. #16881

    Additional info on my trip.

    My last two posts were about my experiences in Carriedo area and La Cafe, I noticed they ran a bit long so I'll try to keep this short.

    Other than the mentioned places above, I also tried P. Burgos, although I did not spend too much time there. Lots of lookers, prices were a bit high but not unreasonable, all the annoying mamasan approaches and negotiations were a bit of a deterrent for me. I got to the bars between 7-8 pm so it may have been too early. I bought some lady drinks for a stunner in one of the bars and talked to her of meeting up the next day. She promised me her number if I returned later that night but I never did. I did not stay in Makati like I had planned so I was not able to thoroughly explore the place.

    Back to Malate.

    Other than LA, I was able to pick up some freelancers from a 711 and ministop. One girl was particularly hot, I guessed 19 but I learned later she was 21, waiting in line at a ministop on Mabini talking to someone on the phone in broken English and Japanese or Korean. She kept asking when the person on the phone would come and see her so I determined she was waiting or perhaps free for the night. Nice legs, wearing denim shorts and a hoodie. Not dressed for a night out but suggestive enough (in my mind anyway) that I had to try and talk to her at least.

    I could not get her attention despite my numerous attempts to make eye contact and passing by as she waited in line. Eventually I ended up pretending to pick up a hundred peso note from the floor asking her if she had dropped it. It was quite obvious it wasn't but it was the only thing I could think of in my drunken state. She hesitated for a bit, I thought I was about to get slapped having mistaken a regular girl for something else. Eventually she snatched the money from me and I was able to talk to her a bit as she walked out. It took about a block and a half before I was able to get to the subject of coming with me. She first asked me what hotel I was staying at (I had moved to Kimberly from Eurotel that night) before agreeing to 2500 to short time, "very short" she said.

    Back in the hotel she eased up a bit, eating her soup and pork dish and switching channels on the TV and looking through the hotel menu. This girl was loaded compared to others I'd seen, she had around 6 k cash and a nice looking Samsung phone, gold rings and bracelet. It turns out she had a Japanese guy in who lived in the country but traveled around who was a regular and a Korean guy working in Manila, currently abroad putting her up in a condo somewhere else outside of the city. She was in Malate because another regular was due in town the next evening and claimed not to have been to LA for almost two years. Oh, and she had a small packet of meth with her too.

    She was very at ease in the room, she liked the hotel and we talked and joked around while eating and drinking for about an hour before getting to the act. She had a great body, good legs, flat stomach and nice round and firm tits. Long wavy hair was dyed brown and tied in a bun showing off her nice round eyes. She seemed very fresh, not tired and worn like some of the other girls.

    We were messing around in the bathtub which is where I had made up my mind I was willing to go 6 k for this girl for the night.

    We started off in the bathroom as we were drying and ended up on the bed. After the round, instead of straight up offering the money for LT, I instead thought of offering to pay the cost of the meth in exchange for her to stay. She thought about it and said it was 1800. I had it figured for 800-1000 based on my previous experience but maybe that's the amount she paid and had already smoked some. Either way 2500 + 1800 was less than what I had originally budgeted for such a hot girl. She told me I was lucky I had taken her to a hotel she liked (Kimberly) and that she was too lazy that night go back to her place otherwise she never would have agreed.

    We hung out all night, ordered some food and a few more beers. Between the beers and duty free whiskey we were pretty buzzed. Fucked three more times and slept in till 11 am. I had to break off a small amount of Viagra to ensure my continued performance, she accused me of cheating and threatened to increase the price.

    Before leaving she saw my Samsung phone, brand new from work that I had got right before this trip. It was about 18 k or so new in the Philippines probably a less in it's opened state without the box. She offered to trade for it, 4 days for the phone, she wanted it for her cousin who was having a birthday soon. I didn't have the time but left the option open. She tried to entice me further with pictures of herself on her phone showing me the different types of lingerie she had and nighties her regulars had bought her. I wish I did have the time she was hot as fuck and really tight too.

    I met another girl, part of a group at a 7/11 somewhere in Del Pilar before noon. She was part of a group it seems they were there to meet a Japanese guy who came in and left with one of them. I tried to talk to them a bit, they were not receptive until I pretended to ask for directions to LA cafe, they all smiled and asked what I wanted to go there for. They were all in their 30's, pretty but not great bodies, I picked the one with the least fat looking ass and we were off, 1500 for short time down from 4 k. 3 hours, unlimited. Good service, CIM, anal and a massage thrown in.

    Tinder. Sort of.

    On my first couple of days I stayed at the Eurotel. There was this guy outside while I was having a smoke, local dude dressed quite sharp texting nervously asked for a cigarette. He said he was meeting a tinder date, she was already in the area but insisted he send proof that he had already made arrangements at the hotel before showing up. He said they had worked in the same building a year ago, had mutual friends but never met. He was texting her pictures of the key card for the room while waiting. We talked a bit he asked my number and offered to take me to Kremlin or some local casa later that week. His tinder date arrived in a cab, petite girl slightly chubby but shapely, big round ass and big tits in a dark tank top, hair done up and wearing oversize sunglasses carrying a designer bag. Flashed me a bitchy look before addressing the guy. I gave him a thumbs up and watched him follow her into the hotel.

    I had DIA but did not think to download tinder so I did right then and there.

    A couple of days later the guy sent me a text, he could not free himself up all week but asked if I saw his tinder date that day and if I would like him to pass on my number to her.

    I got a text from an unknown number later that day asking where I was. I said I was at MOA, the only reply I got was be at the main entrance in 30 minutes. She picked me up in a brand new looking car of Korean origin, stickers and plastic covers all over. I made some small talk about the car and asked if we could stop for food as I was about to go for lunch when she contacted me. She didn't say much, actually she seemed quite annoyed at something, just showed me her lanyard with her work ID signifying she worked for a car dealers and that she did not have time for a meal. She took me to a small place inside a neighborhood nearby, not an obvious short time place, we parked at the front and it looked like a regular house with a sign slightly hidden. Rooms were nice and clean, nice bedding, local channels on the TV, no porn or anything like that.

    She was more chatty in the room, said she was annoyed with the traffic getting to MOA and I was not as well dressed that day (shirt, backpack and flip flops as opposed to button down shirt and pants from the other day) but complimented me on my CK boxers, same brand as her underwear that day. Girl was freak, she had a buttbplug and small dildo in her bag, she used the dildo while I fucked her in the ass. She got mad and slapped me when I came quite soon without telling her. Then she apologized and cleaned me up in the shower, got to work on my dick without letting me rest to get ready for round 2 while fucking herself with the dildo. Round 2, I replaced the dildo in her pussy, she asked me to fuck her hard which I obliged. The power in the place went out in the middle of it so we had to finish without A / see so I opened the window to get some circulation in the room. She paid for the room, apologized for not letting me eat, offered to buy me dinner later before dropping me off at MOA when we were done. I thought she was returning to work but she was actually meeting up with a girlfriend to go shopping.

    DIA.

    I downloaded DIA before going on this trip, I had a bunch of Hi's mostly from dudes before I figured out how to select girls only. Most of the girls on DIA seemed to be in on the long con, talking about families and waiting for visa's to work overseas and shit. I did not find anyone attractive enough to really want to bother engaging in chats on my phone. Once I was in manila there was one hot one that contacted me but asked 3 k for short time and would not budge.

    Wechat.

    In Malate, usually in the evening there are lots of messages from massage girls and straight up working girls. Prices start at 4 or 5 k and got down to 1 to 1.5 k. Most of them are streetwalkers in the area. Many of them are part of a group of fat streetwalkers that I see outside Congo grille near the Robinsons main entrance. I got one that sent me headshots only and one body shot taken from above that didn't show her full fatness. I asked to meet her outside Robinsons while I looked on from nearby, and as I had suspected one fat girl broke from the group and went up to the robinsons sign, damn near obstructing the whole sign when she stood in front of it. I have no problem with fat girls, I'm just not into them so I immediately told her she did not match the pic she sent me and blocked her. Two more from her group sent out messages a few days later.

    There is also a pimp sending out fake pics of girls. Quite obvious as the pics were all the same, some cropped differently. The person on the other end of the account was quite annoying and kept messaging so I said I wanted a girl, sent me 3 pics claiming the same girl (all different pics) and I gave them a room no. And address to a different hotel just for a laugh.

    I did get a good one from nearby, late 20's pretty face but typical Filipina body with a belly, and slightly thick legs. Not bad overall, we met after I had made sure she matched her profile pics. She was good company so we met again. Second time we dropped by LA first, she knew her way around, knew the waitresses and some other girls, had a bunch of them move so we could sit near the pool tables and sent one of them to buy me cigarettes across the street. Told me stories about the place, raids, girls got murdered and all that, even offered to introduce me to other girls I was checking out.

    She corroborated some info I got from the girl from Ministop and the skinny ones from LA, younger girls look for Japanese or Koreans because they are more likely to pay for long time and and younger girls in particular usually get into some agreement with them for a place and a stipend for a few months or even years. Foreigners employed locally are also more likely to take them on trips and stuff around the Philippines so they like to look out for that.

    Kremlin.

    I went to Kremlin after meeting someone in Quezon and looking at some overpriced condos. I went to the second floor, girl selection in the afternoon was scarce. About six girls, all seated and covered in their robes. I asked the guy to ask if they could stand but he did not seem to understand "these only girls available, sir". A cutie popped her head out from behind the door but disappeared, I asked to see her "these only girls available, sir". I picked one with the nicest smile and was sent to a room. The girl took over 10 minutes to get to my room, made some excuse about not hearing the call. I was disappointed to see another girl with a belly and thick legs, not obvious in the selection process.

    The service was OK, cleaned me up, BJ in the shower. Shitty massage followed by a pretty good BJ. After the fuck she dressed up and started to leave despite there still being 20 minutes (30 if you subtract the time she was late). I wasn't feeling all that great so I didn't bother to get my 1 hour out of it and left. I kept comparing it to the massage places in BKK but I knew it would not live up so I didn't bother going back. It was a nice place to get out of the afternoon sun but prices are a bit high at 2500 (1 k room, 1. 5 k girl) for an hour.

    Casa.

    I did not get to go to a Casa but the airport taxi drive I spoke with offered to take me to one in Baclaran. I was quoted 4 k for overnight take out. I balked at the price sand referenced LA and Amazonia. The guy did not seem to know Amazonia had been closed for some time so I wasn't sure if this guy really knew the local scene like I expect from Taxi drivers.

    Overall, I think this was the most mongering I'd done in a 12 day period. I don't know why, it's not usually my main agenda in a trip and I'm not even really into Filipina girls, as I am into Chinese and Thai girls, but Filipina girls are a trip. Most of the freelancers were all very talkative and the service was never rushed they all seemed to really enjoy the sex (apart from the streetwakers). It's just the bellies and the thick legs I'm not into. If I had a less packed itinerary with work related shit and personal sightseeing, I would have probably had more time to pick and negotiate girls but overall I guess it was an OK trip. I'm just glad I got out of there without getting stabbed by a pimp or scammed or run over by a jeepney.

  3. #16880
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    Well to answer your question: I have gotten to know Mama Lisa when she worked in Hollywood, then another club (forgot that name) and now she works in Dimples. Dimples is rarely mentioned on the forum but for me it is comfortable and low pressure. Unlike the other clubs it is smaller and perhaps more personal. But that is my "opinion" for what it is worth. Since she knows me and knows the type of girl I like her recommendations are well accepted.
    Hollywood, next to Bourbon, on the Makati Ave end of Burgos? That was my first Burgos BF many years ago. Back in the heyday (whenever that was) you could find 20-30 lookers there, along the bench seating wall to the right inside the door. Today there are a dozen girls working the place, with 2-3 lookers, the rest mostly older chubs. Just sitting down for a drink in the place will get you 3-4 girls who will sit and chat you up without a drink, give chair massage, like that. One night I sat along the bench seat in the dark area and shooed away all the girls except a late 20's spinner (one child). Just chatting her up we asked the usual questions. I always try and find out where they are from, what town, to make a connection if I have been there before. Sure enough, she is from one of the province where I have several girls. In chat I asked her how much her tip was when she barfined and she said 3000. I asked if she was OK to an amount considerably less than 3 k and she said "Up to you" (music to my ears).

    I had my number already written on some small slips of paper in my pocket before I went out for the evening. I asked the girl if she was interested in afternoon trabaho for my tip amount and she said yes. I handed her my folded number and she stuck it in her bra. And with that simple trick, she afternoon sessioned twice over the next 2 weeks (pics in PG one day). If you would like a pro-tip regarding giving your number to a bargirl (without her getting caught doing it), please PM me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    To the left of Dimples is another club (once again don't concentrate on the name) where mama Joy works. Also super attentive mama.
    To the left of Dimples (perspective: standing outside Dimples on the sidewalk, looking straight at the Dimples front door) I think is the last bar, Go Bananas. Some fun can be had inside there buying LD for the girls.

    Back to Dimples. One of my fav hangouts. Lineup can be 10-30+ girls (staggered shifts, about 10-12 girls come on at shift opening around 6-7 pm, then bunches more roll in closer to 10 pm; happy hour ends around 8 pm, and BTW the happy hour barfine is 1/2 the regular barfine of 3900 during HH). Reasons Dimples is one of my favs: A number of girls are former Stardust girls (had several regular from SD who are still regulars, some have stopped working bars and some moved to Dimples when SD closed). Other reason: Two of the best massage girls on earth. Ask for Angelica, she will rip the muscles off your back while massaging. There are about 5 lookers who are stage dancers, most of the rest of the girls are either blah, or fug-chublies. However, some of them are regulars of mine, like the Hollywood girl.

    Hope this helps Natty.

  4. #16879
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    LOL!!! Man, I almost fell off my chair!
    Pinays are accustomed to corn on the COB from mongers. They would not even bat an eyelash. LOL!

  5. #16878

    Club in Burgos

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I realize your post was focused on a particular taxi scam, but of far more interest to many of us would be the name of the club that you visited every night for a week. That is a very high recommendation.
    Well to answer your question: I have gotten to know Mama Lisa when she worked in Hollywood, then another club (forgot that name) and now she works in Dimples. Dimples is rarely mentioned on the forum but for me it is comfortable and low pressure. Unlike the other clubs it is smaller and perhaps more personal. But that is my "opinion" for what it is worth. Since she knows me and knows the type of girl I like her recommendations are well accepted.

    To the left of Dimples is another club (once again don't concentrate on the name) where mama Joy works. Also super attentive mama.

    I hope to be back very soon to this wonderful "paradise" Enjoy and stay safe!!

  6. #16877
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Look into lasering those warts off.
    LOL!!! Man, I almost fell off my chair!

  7. #16876
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    On Thursday evening I hailed a taxi by Greenbelt 3 to go to Burgos and Makati street. The taxi driver looked at me and told me:. " . Haven't you heard? All Burgos street clubs are closed due to new mayor taking action and sending police there. ".

    Hmmmmm. I thought that was odd.

    So I hailed the next cab. Who gave me the same "story" that clubs are closed. Being my last night I again wanted to have some fun.

    So hailed the THIRD taxi and once again the SAME story.

    Luckily I had the cell number of one of her girls and I asked if the club is closed. NO, was the answer!! All is normal and there is no police action here.

    So gentlemen, if you hear this story from a cab driver. Who most probably will want to take you to a club where THEY get a commission. Don't fall for it. I almost did!!

    Stay safe and enjoy!!
    I had I guy in the Bangkok Airport tell me the BTS was closed and I need to take a taxi as I'm watching people go up and down the escalator. Never ever believe a cabby, tuk tuk driver when they same something is closed and try to redirect you.

  8. #16875
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    Over the years I have gotten to know a mamasan at one of the clubs at Burgos Street. She always recommended her best girls.

    Well this past week I have been at her club every night. Very satisfied with her selection that I brought back to my hotel for all night of fun.
    I realize your post was focused on a particular taxi scam, but of far more interest to many of us would be the name of the club that you visited every night for a week. That is a very high recommendation.

  9. #16874

    The same in AC

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyPete  [View Original Post]
    ...Packs of our East Asian friends were out in force, walking into bars and turning around if they saw nothing appealing. I have a hard time doing that and usually buy a drink before I leave. You have to get there early before the packs claim the good ones. I found a cutie that they had looked over in Pit Stop...
    I have noticed the same phenomena in AC, during daytime. As soon as a club opens, hordes of them descend on it and pick the best seats, then the best girls. Only 2nd tier are left after they are done picking.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyPete  [View Original Post]
    ...I think EDSA may be in a death spiral. Fewer lookers (I was told most had moved on to social media) brings in fewer customers, which means less bar fines for the girls, etc. I hope that isn't the case because I prefer to look over a selection of girls while drinking a cold one, over the hit and miss game on social media (ladyboy? Old pic? Never shows up /2 hours of my time wasted waiting for her). I guess I am old fashioned, haha.
    That may become reality soon, and it may be better if we are forced to look somewhere else. That's what happened to me in Colombia, and now I much prefer the social networks for hunting. Once hooked onto them, it becomes much easier to sample new blood, and less expensive than picking them at the clubs. I have not seen the club reaction yet to this phenomena, but I have a feeling they are not going to stand and watch their business slowly disappear.

  10. #16873

    Conspiracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    On Thursday evening I hailed a taxi by Greenbelt 3 to go to Burgos and Makati street. The taxi driver looked at me and told me:. " . Haven't you heard? All Burgos street clubs are closed due to new mayor taking action and sending police there. ".So I hailed the next cab. Who gave me the same "story" that clubs are closed. So hailed the THIRD taxi and once again the SAME story.
    Obviously a big conspiracy. Thanks for sharing.

  11. #16872
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird  [View Original Post]
    Even after so many years of traveling to Manila, I almost fell for scam by taxi drivers.

    Over the years I have gotten to know a mamasan at one of the clubs at Burgos Street. She always recommended her best girls.

    Well this past week I have been at her club every night. Very satisfied with her selection that I brought back to my hotel for all night of fun.

    On Thursday evening I hailed a taxi by Greenbelt 3 to go to.........

    So gentlemen, if you hear this story from a cab driver. Who most probably will want to take you to a club where THEY get a commission. Don't fall for it. I almost did!!

    Stay safe and enjoy!!
    Strange story, I did the same trip with taxi from greenbelt without any issue. Better to use grab may be or by walk also as I did once around 11 pm, not so far and safe streets in this area.

  12. #16871

    Scam by Taxi Drivers

    Even after so many years of traveling to Manila, I almost fell for scam by taxi drivers.

    Over the years I have gotten to know a mamasan at one of the clubs at Burgos Street. She always recommended her best girls.

    Well this past week I have been at her club every night. Very satisfied with her selection that I brought back to my hotel for all night of fun.

    On Thursday evening I hailed a taxi by Greenbelt 3 to go to Burgos and Makati street. The taxi driver looked at me and told me:. " . Haven't you heard? All Burgos street clubs are closed due to new mayor taking action and sending police there. ".

    Hmmmmm. I thought that was odd.

    So I hailed the next cab. Who gave me the same "story" that clubs are closed. Being my last night I again wanted to have some fun.

    So hailed the THIRD taxi and once again the SAME story.

    Luckily I had the cell number of one of her girls and I asked if the club is closed. NO, was the answer!! All is normal and there is no police action here.

    So gentlemen, if you hear this story from a cab driver. Who most probably will want to take you to a club where THEY get a commission. Don't fall for it. I almost did!!

    Stay safe and enjoy!!

  13. #16870
    Quote Originally Posted by Free2  [View Original Post]
    I have seen women completely undressed in Manila, like butt-naked, who looked scared to death. They were in my room just prior to penetration.
    Look into lasering those warts off.

  14. #16869
    I have seen women completely undressed in Manila, like butt-naked, who looked scared to death. They were in my room just prior to penetration.

  15. #16868
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    Manila isn't so different from a place like MC. Don't fool yourself. Watch the news and take a look around at the place. There's a reason the women are scared to walk around in dresses or anything revealing, and isn't because they think mother mary is watching.
    RR, that's full of non-specific inuendo. Please be specific. First, which place is where the women are scared to walk around in a dress, MC or Manila (or both)? Second, why are they scared? I've been to a number of places in Manila and seen women dressed in all manner of dress in many places.

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