Manila

[Dg8787]

The prices in EDSA are high for what is on offer. The girls are generally average and heavily made up to enhance their looks. Many have severe pregnancy damage including extensive stretchmarks on their saggy breasts, bellies, and buttocks. Several girls have horrific longitudinal see-section scars that give them a butchered appearance. The girls with heavy damage mix in with the better-looking girls on stage, so it is best to get a good look at them in the front row before inviting them down for a drink. If they are replacing bikini type uniforms with dresses that cover up flaws, a lot of guys are going to go limp when they unbox their goods back in the room and discover huge scars, pink stretchmarks and soft droopy teats. Taking a girl out of the bar will be an expensive roll of the dice.

Many foreign men, old and young, are walking into these sort of fleecing ambushes due to not doing their research, underestimating the predatory nature of the natives, and a fear of saying no to local opportunists out of an excessive sense of politeness. It is likely to get much worse for the old fella if he could not prevent 14 shameless natives from feeding on him in a public venue like MOA. By the end of his visit to the Philippines, he is highly likely to be the not so proud donor of house, land, and motorbike at a minimum. It is too bad that a lot of sites are promoting the Philippines as a retirement paradise or second chance destination for fellas with a small nest egg or disability benefits without warning about the reality of the pitfalls that may leave them worse off than at home.

In the past two weeks, I have personally seen two cases of foreigners hoodwinked into marriage to a Filipina and turned into the family bank. The Filipinas involved and their families shamelessly bragged about doing this in public to other Filipinos as they consider exploiting foreign men a matter of pride. In the most appalling case, I was a customer in a business where the mother of the Pinay owner boasted to Filipina customers that the Brit husband of her plain looking daughter paid for that business in addition to another business (which failed), a house in a gated subdivision, and a car.

The Brit is in his 20's and the Pinay he married is a few years older than he is. However, what prompted a loud chorus of laughter from patrons and employees in the business establishment was something else. According to his Flip mother-in-law, this young fella met her daughter online on a popular dating site. The daughter convinced him that she was a virgin. He came to the Philippines; they met in person, and had sex. Somehow, the girl convinced the inexperienced young chap that he had taken her virginity. Her mother then stepped in and demanded marriage taking the foreigner to task for deflowering her daughter. In love and eager to please, the youngster entered into a hasty legal marriage.

Unfortunately, he purchased a false bill of goods. The Pinay he married is damaged goods. A Flip impregnated her and she made a baby at the age of 18 years. The father was from a very poor family so he was relieved of responsibility in return for his silence. The girl went away to another province to have the baby and her mother adopted the baby as her son. The mother did this to spare her daughter the shame of having a bastard baby for poor pinoy without a rooster to his name and to ease her entrance into a Catholic college. Therefore, the Brit is unaware that his Flip brother-in-law is actually his wife's son. His wife spends a lot of time in the gym working out but the postpartum belly never quite went away in spite of her being muscular everywhere else. The fact that the young foreigner unknowingly fell for a fake virgin with a bastard son and became the family bank amuses the Filipinos. The employees in the businesses that he finances are now invested in keeping the dark secret as they smile in his face each day, as are his wife's relatives and friends. The wife's family has dreams of immigrating to the UK. They have been pressuring the Brit to take her there. He has applied for her visa. Maybe the British embassy will uncover the fraud and the poor fella will have the last laugh, but I doubt that they will be that thorough.

The Brit is withdrawn and seems uncomfortable around the natives. He spends his time in the business with headphones on watching movies on his laptop. His social ineptitude probably makes him an easy target as he fails to notice cues and key words in the local language. I only became aware of the fraud because the mother-in-law thinks I know nothing of the local dialect and my companion saw the look on my face during the boasting, which led to an extensive discussion between us on the matter later. Neither of us have a relationship of trust nor friendship with the Brit that assures us he will not out us if warned. Besides, it is too late for him. The assets are already in the name of the scheming wife.

CM and other like minded should start a new NGO, "Save A Poriner".

Possibly wear arm bands and have gold badges identifying yourselves as officers from Save A Poriner squad and have the authority to instantly rescue the poriner on the spot.

At the very least have a Save A Poriner thread here.

[Krozz]

Where is best place to stay in Manila? If we compare with Bangkok, so say I like Soi 22 Sukhumvit.

Please help me. / Pewe.

[Wicked Roger]

The wife's family has dreams of immigrating to the UK. They have been pressuring the Brit to take her there. He has applied for her visa. Maybe the British embassy will uncover the fraud and the poor fella will have the last laugh, but I doubt that they will be that thorough.

The Brit is withdrawn and seems uncomfortable around the natives. He spends his time in the business with headphones on watching movies on his laptop. His social ineptitude probably makes him an easy target as he fails to notice cues and key words in the local language. I only became aware of the fraud because the mother-in-law thinks I know nothing of the local dialect and my companion saw the look on my face during the boasting, which led to an extensive discussion between us on the matter later. Neither of us have a relationship of trust nor friendship with the Brit that assures us he will not out us if warned. Besides, it is too late for him. The assets are already in the name of the scheming wife.

The British Embassy if it is doing it work well will and should find out as the form / questions are extensive and need a lot of documentation to prove etc. Being married helps but not always and it can uncover issues. It did for a friend who had no idea his lady had a child before and told him that she had failed to declare the kid on her application form and was he aware.

But it is likely too late as you said.

The other problem is his age and obsession so it seems with headphones and laptops etc. Basically no social skills, that and being naive and unable to spot the lady has had a baby before.

Sad story but a lesson for everyone.

[Chocha Monger]

The prices in EDSA are high for what is on offer. The girls are generally average and heavily made up to enhance their looks. Many have severe pregnancy damage including extensive stretchmarks on their saggy breasts, bellies, and buttocks. Several girls have horrific longitudinal see-section scars that give them a butchered appearance. The girls with heavy damage mix in with the better-looking girls on stage, so it is best to get a good look at them in the front row before inviting them down for a drink. If they are replacing bikini type uniforms with dresses that cover up flaws, a lot of guys are going to go limp when they unbox their goods back in the room and discover huge scars, pink stretchmarks and soft droopy teats. Taking a girl out of the bar will be an expensive roll of the dice.

Dinner last night was at MOA. I passed a guy in his 70's nursing a family of 14 "relatives" from his emanciated man titties. He looked up as I passed his table and his eyes pleaded with me to put him out of his misery. In the Philippines, everything is "relative".

Many foreign men, old and young, are walking into these sort of fleecing ambushes due to not doing their research, underestimating the predatory nature of the natives, and a fear of saying no to local opportunists out of an excessive sense of politeness. It is likely to get much worse for the old fella if he could not prevent 14 shameless natives from feeding on him in a public venue like MOA. By the end of his visit to the Philippines, he is highly likely to be the not so proud donor of house, land, and motorbike at a minimum. It is too bad that a lot of sites are promoting the Philippines as a retirement paradise or second chance destination for fellas with a small nest egg or disability benefits without warning about the reality of the pitfalls that may leave them worse off than at home.

In the past two weeks, I have personally seen two cases of foreigners hoodwinked into marriage to a Filipina and turned into the family bank. The Filipinas involved and their families shamelessly bragged about doing this in public to other Filipinos as they consider exploiting foreign men a matter of pride. In the most appalling case, I was a customer in a business where the mother of the Pinay owner boasted to Filipina customers that the Brit husband of her plain looking daughter paid for that business in addition to another business (which failed), a house in a gated subdivision, and a car.

The Brit is in his 20's and the Pinay he married is a few years older than he is. However, what prompted a loud chorus of laughter from patrons and employees in the business establishment was something else. According to his Flip mother-in-law, this young fella met her daughter online on a popular dating site. The daughter convinced him that she was a virgin. He came to the Philippines; they met in person, and had sex. Somehow, the girl convinced the inexperienced young chap that he had taken her virginity. Her mother then stepped in and demanded marriage taking the foreigner to task for deflowering her daughter. In love and eager to please, the youngster entered into a hasty legal marriage.

Unfortunately, he purchased a false bill of goods. The Pinay he married is damaged goods. A Flip impregnated her and she made a baby at the age of 18 years. The father was from a very poor family so he was relieved of responsibility in return for his silence. The girl went away to another province to have the baby and her mother adopted the baby as her son. The mother did this to spare her daughter the shame of having a bastard baby for poor pinoy without a rooster to his name and to ease her entrance into a Catholic college. Therefore, the Brit is unaware that his Flip brother-in-law is actually his wife's son. His wife spends a lot of time in the gym working out but the postpartum belly never quite went away in spite of her being muscular everywhere else. The fact that the young foreigner unknowingly fell for a fake virgin with a bastard son and became the family bank amuses the Filipinos. The employees in the businesses that he finances are now invested in keeping the dark secret as they smile in his face each day, as are his wife's relatives and friends. The wife's family has dreams of immigrating to the UK. They have been pressuring the Brit to take her there. He has applied for her visa. Maybe the British embassy will uncover the fraud and the poor fella will have the last laugh, but I doubt that they will be that thorough.

The Brit is withdrawn and seems uncomfortable around the natives. He spends his time in the business with headphones on watching movies on his laptop. His social ineptitude probably makes him an easy target as he fails to notice cues and key words in the local language. I only became aware of the fraud because the mother-in-law thinks I know nothing of the local dialect and my companion saw the look on my face during the boasting, which led to an extensive discussion between us on the matter later. Neither of us have a relationship of trust nor friendship with the Brit that assures us he will not out us if warned. Besides, it is too late for him. The assets are already in the name of the scheming wife.

[Wimble]

My first night in Manila and didn't get checked in until late. Staying in Alabang, which is a long way from the action, but at least at midnight there isn't much traffic.

Ended up there once. Great place to focus on your work and go to bed early.

[SaltyPete]

Thanks for the recommendation! I have done Heritage a few times, but hate the stairs over EDSA to the EDSA complex. I just made a reservation at Midas for my Feb. 2018 trip.

They didn't ask to see girls' ID which can be good or bad; you can just walk on in with her. And having an ATM on premises helps out on those nights when I'm just 1000 pesos short on my date. Taxis will still charge 100-200 php to take you and the girl to the hotel, though.

I don't miss walking past the stink-wall and getting harassed by the bike buggy on the walk from Heritage, LOL. But I do miss staring at the lovely evening and morning hostesses at the breakfast area.

[Wicked Roger]

You'll be delighted to learn that we have a forum specifically related to Makati, a quick scan through the pages there will likely tell you everything you need to know.

He has been a member since 2004 asking lots question in Brazil but maybe he forgot to look carefully CSP Maybe?

Will email you.

[Free2]

I usually stay at the Heritage in Pasay for its convenience to EDSA and MOA but I'm trying the Midas Hotel Casino now and would recommend it over the Heritage if you don't mind paying USD15 more. No pool though. EDSA is only a 10-15 minute walk and the hotel has an ATM.

Thanks for the recommendation! I have done Heritage a few times, but hate the stairs over EDSA to the EDSA complex. I just made a reservation at Midas for my Feb. 2018 trip.

[Aviator12]

There is a new complex that has opened right beside EDSA Entertainment; I forgot the name, but it is something Club. As of now there is at least one open bar and another will be open upstairs soon. I checked it out last night and the venue is the same as EDSA, but nicer and newer. And more expensive. The barfing is 2500 as opposed to 2000. Lady drinks are 470. Long time is 5000 and if I recall, short time is 3500. The average girl quality is a bit higher than that in EDSA but I didn't see anything I needed to walk out with on a Sunday night at 1130. MamaSan said they don't have as many girls on a Sunday night. I was the only customer in there and papaSan was a bit aggressive in forcing a girl on me for drinks.

I don't know if it is run by the same group as EDSA or by a competitor. Maybe this is what is forcing EDSA to modernize and up their game. I hope the pricing does not carry over to EDSA as there are just not enough customers in either place to support it.

Absolutely crazy prices. This is close to European prices now. Or even higher for compared to some areas in Europe. FL's in LA Cafe is 1500-2000 for the night. Mostly average girls there but late at night some 7-8 and very willing and able.

[SaltyPete]

There is a new complex that has opened right beside EDSA Entertainment; I forgot the name, but it is something Club. As of now there is at least one open bar and another will be open upstairs soon. I checked it out last night and the venue is the same as EDSA, but nicer and newer. And more expensive. The barfing is 2500 as opposed to 2000. Lady drinks are 470. Long time is 5000 and if I recall, short time is 3500. The average girl quality is a bit higher than that in EDSA but I didn't see anything I needed to walk out with on a Sunday night at 1130. MamaSan said they don't have as many girls on a Sunday night. I was the only customer in there and papaSan was a bit aggressive in forcing a girl on me for drinks.

I don't know if it is run by the same group as EDSA or by a competitor. Maybe this is what is forcing EDSA to modernize and up their game. I hope the pricing does not carry over to EDSA as there are just not enough customers in either place to support it.

[GoldenAdobo]

I would like to say thank you for all the information on this forum as I will be making my first trip in a few weeks to Manila. I just had one question if anyone is able to help. Are there any free lancers to be found in the Mall of Asia and if so where are they located.

I will be making my report once after my experience thank you again I really appreciate this awesome forum.

[CallSign Papa]

Greetings gents,

Wondering especially given that tomorrow is a holiday in the Phils, any good options to go hunting, near Makati?

You'll be delighted to learn that we have a forum specifically related to Makati, a quick scan through the pages there will likely tell you everything you need to know.

[Jacaré]

Greetings gents,

I'll be arriving late tomorrow night and staying in Makati, Wondering especially given that tomorrow is a holiday in the Phils, any good options to go hunting, near Makati?

Also, anyone been to a KTV in Malate called Hanataba, on Adriatico street in Malate? What's the scoop in KTVs? What's the bar fine there?

Thanks!

[SaltyPete]

I hit EDSA Entertainment for the last two nights, midnight on a Friday and 8 pm on a Saturday. The owner is putting money into the complex. The outside has been changed and the neon lights removed. Space Girls has been redone already and now is a Japanese-oriented Hostess Bar. The girls are made up in Japanese style and attire. A couple of them are pretty cute with clothes on (no bikinis here, no dancing). They have a live band that starts around 9 but I didn't stick around for that. Bar fines are still php2000.

The private VIP room upstairs is next for an update and will become a new bar. I heard that every bar will get a makeover.

The girls have gotten fatter. On Friday, I found a cute one in Cotton Club but she was "sick" and couldn't be bar fined. I found another in Bullets and Arrows but she had never been barfined and didn't seem too keen on the idea, at least not with me. Firehouse and Pit Stop were my "go to" bars in the past but they had nothing to offer. I walked out alone around 2 am and made a booty call to a girl I've known for a couple of years so the night did end up with a bang.

I returned Saturday just after opening, hoping the cute girls had already been claimed when I was there the previous night. My favorite in Pit Stop had returned and I will probably take her out tonight. Fire House was still lacking. I took a new girl out from Cotton Club for her first time and that was a mistake. She smoked in my bathroom and was otherwise lack luster and forgettable.

I usually stay at the Heritage in Pasay for its convenience to EDSA and MOA but I'm trying the Midas Hotel Casino now and would recommend it over the Heritage if you don't mind paying USD15 more. No pool though. EDSA is only a 10-15 minute walk and the hotel has an ATM.

Dinner last night was at MOA. I passed a guy in his 70's nursing a family of 14 "relatives" from his emanciated man titties. He looked up as I passed his table and his eyes pleaded with me to put him out of his misery. In the Philippines, everything is "relative".

Back to EDSA tonight for my dependable good time Pit Stop girl. Tomorrow I will move to the Marco Polo in Ortigas and check out Burgos Street for a night or two. This visit is short but sweet.

[R The Man]

My last night in Manila and I headed over to Cafe Havana. My Grab car (what a great service!) dropped me off at Greenbelt 3, headed across the mall, and found it right away, near Starbucks just as described. I was there at 8:30 pm and had some dinner. Quite good food. And had a couple of beer before the ladies started arriving. I wanted to make it an early night, so I didn't wait too long before a gorgeous girl sat at the next table. A smile and brief chat later we headed back to my hotel. Gretel was 24 and was very pretty with bleached blonde hair and a tight petite body (I would rate her an 8). I was worried she was too pretty for good service, but she seemed very friendly, and she ended up being excellent. DFK, lots of positions (my fave being doggie) and a top-ten BBBJ. The only minor downside was that she didn't like DATY. I was really happy with her. I found the girls at Havana to be prettier than LA Cafe for sure, but the prices are also higher. I ended up giving her 4000 for a quality ST.

Really appreciate all the good info from this forum. Hope to back again some time.