Manila

[Dcfan77]

Right on bro!

I always found it funny that mall freelancer always offer massage when you approach them. I reply by saying I don't want massage. I want to fuck. Get to the point! I line that works well is. Baby, your mouth looks so warm. LOL.

My advise, next time even if you are feeling she is a pro, don't ask or say this to her. If you do, one you 'll end up ruining any chances you had if any. Second, she will think you are naive, don't understand things and don't have the eye to identify one, high chances she may count you as a loser. If you feel she is a pro, just keep it to yourself and ask her for an intimate evening by offering her gifts. I had plenty of hot girls and still do. They are pro but will not admit and not take cash. Perfumes / dress / gifts will do and you can bang them any which way. Some girls don't want to admit or want to accept cash as a reward. As for your money is concerned 5000 pesos, its nothing, you gain experience. You'll become a master when you have experience and alot of that comes from mistakes like these. Just my 2 cents.

[KrisMonger]

I am staying in Alabang at a hotel for 2 nights next week and have a tight schedule. Therefore going into the city won't work. I have not been back to the Philippines for 4 years and didn't use escorts yet (LA Cafe, Greenbelt Mall and Burgos Bars in previous years).

Is Smooci the best option? Any other agency you can recommend? Also on Smooci are Independents better or are agency's ok as well. I plan to get the 3 day plan on Smooci to see the reviews.

Any other recommendations in Alabang? I prefer my hotel room and like to sleep alone afterwards. So 2-4 hours are best.

Thanks for your help.

Yep. Smooci is a great option (at least was 4 years ago). It was fairly straightforward but make sure you give them time to show up given Metro manila traffic can be crappy I will also suggest book for 2 hours and then you can always extend / negotiate with lesser peso value than what they have at the website. Last time when I was there, the one that I got from smooci just stayed with me through the evening and into next day. We didn't even talk prices and she was happy with just being there. I gave her like an additional 3000 pesos for the day she stayed and she was super happy.

[Martin39]

I am staying in Alabang at a hotel for 2 nights next week and have a tight schedule. Therefore going into the city won't work. I have not been back to the Philippines for 4 years and didn't use escorts yet (LA Cafe, Greenbelt Mall and Burgos Bars in previous years).

Is Smooci the best option? Any other agency you can recommend? Also on Smooci are Independents better or are agency's ok as well. I plan to get the 3 day plan on Smooci to see the reviews.

Any other recommendations in Alabang? I prefer my hotel room and like to sleep alone afterwards. So 2-4 hours are best.

Thanks for your help.

[Goferring]

I went in with the assumption I should tip them the same 2000 pesos as I paid for the massage but at no point did they hint towards money or ask for a tip so I just left, kinda feel like I should have tipped tbh, not sure if its the norm here?

Either way enjoyed it a lot.

Any spa charging in the '000's for a massage will have the girl's cut included in the price, including the extras. If your really satisfied, you could leave a couple of hundred as a tip but thousands and you would be seen as a gullible newbie.

A spa that charges in the '00's will just be for the basic massage. It could very well be a very good massage. Any extras will be a direct negotiation between client and provider. My rule of thumb is that a HJ costs the same as the massage. No tip is required above the agreed price.

Enjoy. G.

[TjBrazil]

A bad night at the office. Keen to hear some thoughts on whether I was right or wrong.

Not sure if this is even the right content for this forum given what it is geared towards but I will post anyway and if you feel it's not suitable as it's not technically mongering (but is related) please let me know and I'll refrain from posting similar.

TL; DR. Met girl on Wednesday night in Secret Door, took her number, went out today, spent a lot on food+drink, came to realisation she's almost defo a hooker. Asked her about it, she got upset, now 5000 pesos down and feeling like a f*cking moron.

For some background, I have banged 3 girls since being in Manila, all met via Tinder and paid very, very little in terms of a couple of (non-lady) drinks or some food. Like 1000 pesos or less on a quick date then back to the bedroom. Then today I lost my mind and paid 5000+ to bang nothing.

On Wednesday night I wasn't feeling in the mood for a date and decided to hit the streets alone to get drunk. Ended up meeting a bunch of people (guys + gals) including 2 local girls, neither of whom looked or acted like hookers in my limited experience, just seemed like two genuine girls out on their day off. One of them is 10000% not a hooker, obviously I ended up cracking on with the other one. Got on really well with both, took the number of the one I spoke to the most as the other had a boyfriend. We partied from probably 2 am-8 am and at no point did either of them try and come onto someone or make any moves like they were a hooker. The bar we were in does not seem to have working girls either..

5 k pesos is 90 dollars. I blow that at red lobster. It's nothing.

[Resler91]

Thanks for the answer Fever, I have currently booked a trip to Thailand (one of many) as it's a very nice destination for meeting a mix of civilians + pros, now I really wish I gave ph a chance to change things up, I will certainly visit in the future.

I'll chalk it up to being young and f*cking retarded. Next time I'll just bang a fucking brass before I pay 5000+ pesos on drinks.

Thoroughly enjoyed the report, honestly the damage done is time if you have limited time, otherwise 5000 pesos is really nothing at the end of a day considered the experience gained.

[Fever77]

Went to Abacca spa for a massage, massages are my guilty pleasure.

This was the only place I could find that isn't outcall and is definitely offering a happy ending.

Building itself is hard to find and fairly rundown, security guy say outside will show you its on the 2nd floor.

Paid 2000 pesos for a lingnam massage from 2 girls and really enjoyed it, not the hardest massage ever though they said they were holding back but enjoyable technique and a very happy ending after a lot of teasing. Only bad thing is the place is curtains rather then separate rooms but couldn't hear much of anything outside of some slaps on the back from other rooms.

I went in with the assumption I should tip them the same 2000 pesos as I paid for the massage but at no point did they hint towards money or ask for a tip so I just left, kinda feel like I should have tipped tbh, not sure if its the norm here?

Either way enjoyed it a lot.

[TjBrazil]

I will be staying in malate, so I watched a bunch of YT videos on the rld there. They had a bunch of KTV bars. Plenty of attractive girls. I googled KTV bars and found out these girls are not hookers, or am I wrong on this. You just pay them to drink with you and maybe fondle them. Can you guys elaborate on what the KTV bars in malate are. Are there showers and rooms. I hope it's not just a karaoke place.

[TjBrazil]

A bad night at the office. Keen to hear some thoughts on whether I was right or wrong.

Not sure if this is even the right content for this forum given what it is geared towards but I will post anyway and if you feel it's not suitable as it's not technically mongering (but is related) please let me know and I'll refrain from posting similar.

TL; DR. Met girl on Wednesday night in Secret Door, took her number, went out today, spent a lot on food+drink, came to realisation she's almost defo a hooker. Asked her about it, she got upset, now 5000 pesos down and feeling like a f*cking moron.

For some background, I have banged 3 girls since being in Manila, all met via Tinder and paid very, very little in terms of a couple of (non-lady) drinks or some food. Like 1000 pesos or less on a quick date then back to the bedroom. Then today I lost my mind and paid 5000+ to bang nothing.

On Wednesday night I wasn't feeling in the mood for a date and decided to hit the streets alone to get drunk. Ended up meeting a bunch of people (guys + gals) including 2 local girls, neither of whom looked or acted like hookers in my limited experience, just seemed like two genuine girls out on their day off. One of them is 10000% not a hooker, obviously I ended up cracking on with the other one. Got on really well with both, took the number of the one I spoke to the most as the other had a boyfriend. We partied from probably 2 am-8 am and at no point did either of them try and come onto someone or make any moves like they were a hooker. The bar we were in does not seem to have working girls either.

Today (Thursday) rolls around and she messages asking how I'm doing, some brief small talk and she says she's going to the movies with the same friend and I'm welcome to tag along. Again, I had no plans for Thursday night as a Tinder date fell through so decided to go for it. I insisted on paying for their movie tickets because I was grateful they invited me, they tried to pay but I refused (dumbass).

Finish the movie, I said lets go for some drinks. I was starting to really like the one girl and was getting some slight flirting from her, thought I was in and decided to hang around. Anyway some drinks turned into a lot, I spent probably 5000 pesos maybe more including the cinema tickets, we kept ordering drinks and shisha and I couldn't bring myself to ask them to pay for them, they paid for maybe 2 rounds in fairness.

Maybe it was the drink or maybe I was right but all of a sudden it hit me.

This girl has a whatsapp pic of her in laungerie, a WhatsApp business account (under the label nail salon), she seems to know SO many people in the bars but says she doesn't drink often, our conversation's weren't flowing as naturally as hers were with other people yet she still seemed interested in me.

I came to the conclusion she was a hooker. I decided I was done paying for drinks on top of potentially paying for sex and felt annoyed she hadn't mentioned she was a brass beforehand so wasn't even going to consider paying her for sex on principle (LOL). I made some weak excuse and left the bar to go home feeling like an idiot.

About an hour later the curiosity got the better of me and I decided to WhatsApp her and ask if she was a hooker which she did not take kindly to and said things such as 'you think you're such a high and mighty foreigner', 'I really liked you' 'I feel sad now that you felt this way', 'I have my own money' blah blah. She sent me a TONNE of pictures falling into the following two categories: nail related pics such as her working in a salon, finished nails etc. Then pics of her basically flexing cash like you see rappers do with big bundles of 1000 peso notes to prove she has her own money.

All the sh*t a hooker would probably say but I don't know. I hung out with her for like 6+ hours the first night with 0 hint she was a hooker or her coming onto me, and even second night she never really did anything to confirm she is. So I actually do not know if I made the right call or not. I did like her, she is very cute and quite subtly sexy but I've blown that one now.

Either way, I spent 5000+ pesos to have 0 sex.

I'll chalk it up to being young and f*cking retarded. Next time I'll just bang a fucking brass before I pay 5000+ pesos on drinks.

Hey dude, there is only one way to know if she was a hooker. She asks you for money to have sex with her. Did you kiss her during the night. Did you get handsy with each other. If you were then she wasn't a hooker unless she asks for money for sex. This ain't rocket science.

[SuperLove]

My advise, next time even if you are feeling she is a pro, don't ask or say this to her. If you do, one you 'll end up ruining any chances you had if any. Second, she will think you are naive, don't understand things and don't have the eye to identify one, high chances she may count you as a loser. If you feel she is a pro, just keep it to yourself and ask her for an intimate evening by offering her gifts. I had plenty of hot girls and still do. They are pro but will not admit and not take cash. Perfumes / dress / gifts will do and you can bang them any which way. Some girls don't want to admit or want to accept cash as a reward. As for your money is concerned 5000 pesos, its nothing, you gain experience. You'll become a master when you have experience and alot of that comes from mistakes like these. Just my 2 cents.

A bad night at the office. Keen to hear some thoughts on whether I was right or wrong.

Not sure if this is even the right content for this forum given what it is geared towards but I will post anyway and if you feel it's not suitable as it's not technically mongering (but is related) please let me know and I'll refrain from posting similar.

TL; DR. Met girl on Wednesday night in Secret Door, took her number, went out today, spent a lot on food+drink, came to realisation she's almost defo a hooker. Asked her about it, she got upset, now 5000 pesos down and feeling like a f*cking moron.

For some background, I have banged 3 girls since being in Manila, all met via Tinder and paid very, very little in terms of a couple of (non-lady) drinks or some food. Like 1000 pesos or less on a quick date then back to the bedroom. Then today I lost my mind and paid 5000+ to bang nothing.

On Wednesday night I wasn't feeling in the mood for a date and decided to hit the streets alone to get drunk. Ended up meeting a bunch of people (guys + gals) including 2 local girls, neither of whom looked or acted like hookers in my limited experience, just seemed like two genuine girls out on their day off. One of them is 10000% not a hooker, obviously I ended up cracking on with the other one. Got on really well with both, took the number of the one I spoke to the most as the other had a boyfriend. We partied from probably 2 am-8 am and at no point did either of them try and come onto someone or make any moves like they were a hooker. The bar we were in does not seem to have working girls either.

Today (Thursday) rolls around and she messages asking how I'm doing, some brief small talk and she says she's going to the movies with the same friend and I'm welcome to tag along. Again, I had no plans for Thursday night as a Tinder date fell through so decided to go for it. I insisted on paying for their movie tickets because I was grateful they invited me, they tried to pay but I refused (dumbass).

Finish the movie, I said lets go for some drinks. I was starting to really like the one girl and was getting some slight flirting from her, thought I was in and decided to hang around. Anyway some drinks turned into a lot, I spent probably 5000 pesos maybe more including the cinema tickets, we kept ordering drinks and shisha and I couldn't bring myself to ask them to pay for them, they paid for maybe 2 rounds in fairness.

Maybe it was the drink or maybe I was right but all of a sudden it hit me.

This girl has a whatsapp pic of her in laungerie, a WhatsApp business account (under the label nail salon), she seems to know SO many people in the bars but says she doesn't drink often, our conversation's weren't flowing as naturally as hers were with other people yet she still seemed interested in me.

I came to the conclusion she was a hooker. I decided I was done paying for drinks on top of potentially paying for sex and felt annoyed she hadn't mentioned she was a brass beforehand so wasn't even going to consider paying her for sex on principle (LOL). I made some weak excuse and left the bar to go home feeling like an idiot.

About an hour later the curiosity got the better of me and I decided to WhatsApp her and ask if she was a hooker which she did not take kindly to and said things such as 'you think you're such a high and mighty foreigner', 'I really liked you' 'I feel sad now that you felt this way', 'I have my own money' blah blah. She sent me a TONNE of pictures falling into the following two categories: nail related pics such as her working in a salon, finished nails etc. Then pics of her basically flexing cash like you see rappers do with big bundles of 1000 peso notes to prove she has her own money.

All the sh*t a hooker would probably say but I don't know. I hung out with her for like 6+ hours the first night with 0 hint she was a hooker or her coming onto me, and even second night she never really did anything to confirm she is. So I actually do not know if I made the right call or not. I did like her, she is very cute and quite subtly sexy but I've blown that one now.

Either way, I spent 5000+ pesos to have 0 sex.

I'll chalk it up to being young and f*cking retarded. Next time I'll just bang a fucking brass before I pay 5000+ pesos on drinks.

[Goferring]

A bad night at the office. Keen to hear some thoughts on whether I was right or wrong.

Nice stories.

For the first, we all have had sunk costs that were unable to be recovered. Just treat it as a cost of doing business and move on.

For the second, give her a call and apologise and see if she will meet again. Hooker or not, angry makeup sex is always fun.

Enjoy. G.

[Fever77]

Hello lad, I am thinking of trying the philippines early next year (I already have a trip planned to another location this year).

May you specify what you mean by being young? Early 20? Late 20? Mid 30?

Also what was roughly the average age of the girls you got out of tinder?

Thanks for your time, cheers.

I'm mid 20's, girls have been in their 20's, average probably 22/23.

Philippines is a very fun place so far for me, very different to anywhere I have been before.

[TjBrazil]

You hit the lottery which girl you picking: pia or this girl. https://cheezburger.com/2619427328.

[TjBrazil]

Found a better vid of Pia strutting her stuff in bikini at the M Universe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nH4kXCupeo

She's jussssst a tad out of my league.

The guy who mapped the human genome once said we would one day be able to manipulate genes to make all women beautiful. The reporter said that was immoral to do. Being a OG that he was, he said why shouldn't all women be beautiful.

[TjBrazil]

We can live in hope. Or perhaps it's delusion. 😍.

I always thought she had boltons but those are jiggling in all the right ways. 👍.

Nothing fake about those. I'm an expert on natural boobs. I didn't graduate medical school but I'm at that level of knowledge.