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[FreebieFan]

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Montana is spectacular! As an avid mountaineer, I thinks its one of the best states for a holiday. Glacier National Park, a good sidetrip to the Yellowstone.

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Totally late and totally off topic but one summer years ago I walked the route of the Salmon River. Was spectular indeed. I also loved the scenery on Montana. I think my original point was that for Pinay used to Manila life and malls etc, Billings Montana would seem like a big come down.

[Korkavado]

Hi Mc Don,

Yes of course I could have negotiated for less. But frankly she does not ask for a daily rate.

Since I first met her I wanted it clearly understood that I will assist her financially when I am in Manila. I don't want her under the impression that we are exclusive, or that I am looking for a wife. That's why I always pay them.

Your right, she probably would have stayed for nothing just to be away from the dismal poverty for 3 weeks.

She is my special DIA girl and I am very generous with her, the rate I gave her seemed fair. As she would go out of her way to make me happy. Not to mention hooking me up with her friends and ex classmates, that are in the same financial boat as her.

I am 50% certain she is not doing this on a regular basis.

I consider myself fortunate to find her. And hopefully be back next year to see her again. Oh yeah, and her friends too. Ha ha.

I will pm you with the condo info.

Kork.

Loved the story. Especially the Land of Malls, I will start calling it that LOL. Not meant to be critical you have done great I am just curious did you ever try to negotiate a long term rate with the girl?

$55 is not much and to get long time 24hrs availability in manila for around 2200 peso is job well done, but we are talking here 21 days same girl. MBC girls would do it for around that much with the option to swap each day. I get it you like the girl and I hate the discussions about money, but you seem to have priced everything else, don't take this the wrong way I am only pointing out you could have save $300 or so by negotiating long term rate. Just to give you an idea in AC you can "permenantly" bar fine a girl for 30 000 peso, girl is happy with 15 000. Like I said its not meant to be a critical post just pointing out that next time you can if chose to, negotiate a long term rate. In efect you have given her 4-5 months of minimum manila wage and she had the time of her life all thanks to you. Next time she will expect the same.

Also can you pm me a link to the property you found on the phil website. I read your post, we were in phils at the same time by the looks of it, I could not find anything on the site. Good find that one, I hate manila hotels especially after being on the road for so long.

Once again I am not meant to be critical, just pointing out something you may have missed considering its your second time in the land of malls.

[Peet Man]

I'm in need of new venues fellas, food and entertainment wise. Cowboy Grill could do with a miss next trip, although I do reccomend it for those of you who have not been. G Point is fairly ok, for those of you looking for mature ladies I reccomend. The entertainment appears to improve by consuming large amounts of alcohol, LOL.

Is Bedrock Bar and Grill worthy of a try? If so, which evenings are best? It's assumed there is plenty pickable honey about?

This is the correct address:

Manila.

510 Padre Faura St, Ermita.

Manila, Metro Manila, Philippines

[Sxxxx]

Guys, all this chatter about penis size, white guys, Korean & Japanese is pointless. The bottom line for these girls is return: the most money in the shortest time possible. Everything else, including penis size and ethnicity is incidental. Return also accounts for the dominance of certain monger groups at any mongering destination (Koreans in Manila, Black Americans in Rio in the early 2000s, White guys in Kenya, white guys in Colombia, and the list goes one). I believe the Koreans are currently popular in Manila primarily because of the economics.

In my experience I have heard of all kinds of stuff: I don't like white guys, they smell; I don't like black guys, they fuck too hard and long; I don't like Asians, they have small penis etc. For me its all crap. Most will say anything that will maximize their return depending on the audience.

Now that we have that cleared up, can we get back to talking about the cuties in Manila.

I agree with you.

[Mc Don]

Plane fare from North Florida: $1175 Delta, booked on Delta.

Accommodations Total: $1121 about 53 dollars a night, for 21 nights.

I gave my DIA girl about 55 dollars a day. She is a sweetie.

Her friends I gave 2500p a night. Plus dinner. Saw the spinner, the chunky friend, and the tall girl twice each.

One day I will actually do some tourism stuff.

Kork

Loved the story. Especially the Land of Malls, I will start calling it that LOL. Not meant to be critical you have done great I am just curious did you ever try to negotiate a long term rate with the girl?

$55 is not much and to get long time 24hrs availability in manila for around 2200 peso is job well done, but we are talking here 21 days same girl. MBC girls would do it for around that much with the option to swap each day. I get it you like the girl and I hate the discussions about money, but you seem to have priced everything else, don't take this the wrong way I am only pointing out you could have save $300 or so by negotiating long term rate. Just to give you an idea in AC you can "permenantly" bar fine a girl for 30 000 peso, girl is happy with 15 000. Like I said its not meant to be a critical post just pointing out that next time you can if chose to, negotiate a long term rate. In efect you have given her 4-5 months of minimum manila wage and she had the time of her life all thanks to you. Next time she will expect the same.

Also can you pm me a link to the property you found on the phil website. I read your post, we were in phils at the same time by the looks of it, I could not find anything on the site. Good find that one, I hate manila hotels especially after being on the road for so long.

Once again I am not meant to be critical, just pointing out something you may have missed considering its your second time in the land of malls.

[Soapy Smith]

Do me a favor and check out my post on Pinay Single Mothers, what's your opinion?

I concur. I've been involved with one Filipina for approximately two years now. She's a petite single mother of three kids. She's embarrassed that she has a little loose flesh around her tummy, but I assure her that by comparison to what happens to most Western women after three kids, I regard her tummy as one of my half dozen top destinations for foreplay. It's also a lot better looking than my stomach. The other five destinations are within two feet of her tummy. She is the most responsive, appreciative, and energetic sex partner I've ever been with.

[WestCoast1]

I'm in need of new venues fellas, food and entertainment wise. Cowboy Grill could do with a miss next trip, although I do reccomend it for those of you who have not been. G Point is fairly ok, for those of you looking for mature ladies I reccomend. The entertainment appears to improve by consuming large amounts of alcohol, LOL.

Is Bedrock Bar and Grill worthy of a try? If so, which evenings are best? It's assumed there is plenty pickable honey about?

I don't think Bedrock is a pickup joint. Never seen a gringo grab a girl there. Its a place locals hang out for live band. Some evening's I've been the only kano there. Bit pricey, always good live band, often 2 bands per evening (alternating every hour). Other gents, your experience? Great place to take your girl for dancing or just to have appetizers and listen to live band.

[AfAsia]

I'm in need of new venues fellas, food and entertainment wise. Cowboy Grill could do with a miss next trip, although I do reccomend it for those of you who have not been. G Point is fairly ok, for those of you looking for mature ladies I reccomend. The entertainment appears to improve by consuming large amounts of alcohol, LOL.

Is Bedrock Bar and Grill worthy of a try? If so, which evenings are best? It's assumed there is plenty pickable honey about?

[AfAsia]

Just love the atmosphere. I can sit there endlessly, consuming beer after beer and chatting to all the honey, it almost beats the sex act. Every evening begins and ends there well into the next day after some knocking about in Manila all night long. Add to this, being a foody, which is splendid to date, the lovely waitresses look after 'Daddy' with such love and care, just love them to bits. I cannot even find it in me to get upset with May who is trying to pick my pocket after much discussion with her, solving the worllds problems, she is fairly smart, and I have her fairly drunk at this stage. May is tickling my pocket as I chat to the girl opposite, she does not bat an eyelid as I challenge her. Eventually I laughed it off and bought her another Red Horse.

There certainly are some bizaare characters about, just imagine what the girls have to put up with when being sexed. Can't blame the girls for having no heart for the monger. The networking amongst the girls is simply amazing, seems I arrive and I get a report about all the girls I have done and the lucky few whom have knocked about with me for several days. A few even appear straight from home after being informed via sms from there friends of my presence. Talk about cooperation.

So looking forward to being back in the not too distant future. It's good being me fellas.

[DriveAllNight]

Damn Kork! I got to meet your travel agent. I haven't seen that kind of price on tickets to Phils since I moved back to the US last year. I guess I must be looking at the wrong dates or departure locations. I hope I can find a good deal like that for next summer.

Enjoy!

HW

Bought my Jan ticket from SFO to MNL last month, $1220 including fees, Cathay.

[Jbiz979]

Okay, I'll stop the math lesson. I can see it is not going to be productive. Other feedback I've received suggests that my discussion is misplaced on this forum anyway.

Regarding Hong Kong's place on the list, please understand it is not my list. It is an index created and scored by the Heritage Foundation and the Wall Street Journal. These are hardly bastions of socialism. If you want to argue about the accuracy of the index, feel free to take it up with the Heritage Foundation. I've provided a link to their website, which has a comprehensive explanation of the index. My own thoughts about how to solve the world's problems are much closer to those of Amartya Sen.

http://www.heritage.org/index/

I understand your math perfectly, but that's not an economic factor. I'm certainly not surprised that the Wall Street Journal also gives Hong Kong's labor practices high marks as well, it appears that free labor is very beneficial as well. I do disagree with the Wall Street Journal and Heritage Foundation's article and I will make my comments there because your right this is not the forum for this discussion. Thank you for the debate. Do me a favor and check out my post on Pinay Single Mothers, what's your opinion?

[Soapy Smith]

I completely disagree that becoming a millionaire has anything to do with population numbers. I don't have socialist notions of wealth that their should be X amount of millionaires per X amount of people that was not the point of the graphed I used and maybe I did not make that clear with my Norway references.

I was shocked that you put Hong Kong on the top of your previous list.

Okay, I'll stop the math lesson. I can see it is not going to be productive. Other feedback I've received suggests that my discussion is misplaced on this forum anyway.

Regarding Hong Kong's place on the list, please understand it is not my list. It is an index created and scored by the Heritage Foundation and the Wall Street Journal. These are hardly bastions of socialism. If you want to argue about the accuracy of the index, feel free to take it up with the Heritage Foundation. I've provided a link to their website, which has a comprehensive explanation of the index. My own thoughts about how to solve the world's problems are much closer to those of Amartya Sen.

http://www.heritage.org/index/

[Jbiz979]

I would gently point out that there's a flaw in the logic of your numbers. The probability of hitting millionaire status needs to factor in the population of each country. Taking your numbers and dividing by each country's population puts these countries in a very different order. Based on your numbers and comparative population numbers, the U. K. Has 465 millionaires per 10, 000 population. Canada is close behind at 464. Rank orders three through six are Japan, Germany, Italy, and France. The USA comes in number seven at 337 millionaires per 10, 000 population. Of the ten you list only Taiwan, Spain and China have fewer millionaires per capita than the USA It is likely there are other small population countries that rank in the top ten when an index is calculated, rather than merely the raw number of millionaires.

I would also point out regardless of the number of millionaires locations, the US is still the biggest Consumer country in the world. I think we can both agree that wealth is being made by selling goods and services to Americans. I completely disagree that becoming a millionaire has anything to do with population numbers. I don't have socialist notions of wealth that their should be X amount of millionaires per X amount of people that was not the point of the graphed I used and maybe I did not make that clear with my Norway references. I'm talking specificly about environmental factors that allows one to grow wealth. One very obvious factor is a large middle class now granted the American middle class is shrinking and things like the housing bubble, extreme debt has changed the dynamics but it is the middle class in America buying homes, filling those homes with goods, buying cars, ipads you name it, that make's the US the most likely country in the world to build one's wealth. I was shocked that you put Hong Kong on the top of your previous list. Their are over a billion people in that country with no middle class to speak about, Extreme government regulation and intervention and list of other things you and I both can name that makes China unfavorable. China is great if one is in the government or apart of the business elite (that is part of the government) but for the average Chinese they will NEVER be wealthy.

[Soapy Smith]

Damn Kork! I got to meet your travel agent. I haven't seen that kind of price on tickets to Phils since I moved back to the US last year. I guess I must be looking at the wrong dates or departure locations. I hope I can find a good deal like that for next summer. Enjoy! HW

Kork sent me a pm in early September and tipped me off about the low fares. I jumped on the opportunity, badly needed on my part, as Frenzy recently pointed out to me. But I think it's a seasonal thing. I checked Delta but found Korean Air was cheaper by about a hundred dollars for my route through Atlanta. Don't count on getting these prices any time between Thanksgiving and New Years or during the summer. Those are the high demand travel months when all the Fil-Ams and their kids are on vacation from school or work.

[Soapy Smith]

Top 10 Countries (Net worth of US $1 million, as of May 2011) [4][32]

Rank Country Number of (USD) millionaire households.

Rank World 37, 978, 000.

1. United States 10, 541, 000.

2. Japan 5, 705, 000.

3. Germany 3, 485, 000.

4. United Kingdom 2, 904, 000.

5. France 2, 653, 000.

6. Italy 2, 476, 000.

7. Canada 1, 745, 000.

8. China 1, 312, 000.

9. Spain 1, 022, 000.

10. Taiwan 719, 000.

I would gently point out that there's a flaw in the logic of your numbers. The probability of hitting millionaire status needs to factor in the population of each country. Taking your numbers and dividing by each country's population puts these countries in a very different order. Based on your numbers and comparative population numbers, the U. K. Has 465 millionaires per 10, 000 population. Canada is close behind at 464. Rank orders three through six are Japan, Germany, Italy, and France. The USA comes in number seven at 337 millionaires per 10, 000 population. Of the ten you list only Taiwan, Spain and China have fewer millionaires per capita than the USA It is likely there are other small population countries that rank in the top ten when an index is calculated, rather than merely the raw number of millionaires.