Subic City (Subic Bay)

[Fast Eddie 48]

Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.

To Conquerroy val.

It is more like once is enough like you said there are just so many more girl in AC and only one HR away, the beach and swimming is just so so and I been here twice don't think of any other reason for me to come back any time soon.

Fast Eddie 48.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

?......I also staggered into T Rose one night on the way back from a bar hop for supposedly one last beer. That turned into a double header BJ in one of the booths for 1 k each. It was about 10 pm and they close early at 11 pm. Supposedly I was the only LDs bought for the night. I tended to believe this as the crowds were so light that night and the bar is off the main strip.

It's hard to get out of T Rose without a BJ (no pun intended). In your case it may not have mattered since you were the only customer, but for the uninitiated, T Rose has ST rooms in the back. It you're planing more than a quickie or prefer something a bit less, uh. Plebeian? The hotel just across Ifugao St (straight ahead when you walk out the door) offers ST rates. The rooms are cleaner & more spacious. Take 2-3 companions; no one will bat an eye.

Again for the uninitiated, in bar bjs are standard MO at T Rose & Count Nickolas. At the later, though, many of the staff falatrix aren't female. Best to avoid in an inebriated state after a long bar hop.

[ConquerorVal]

why do you feel you won't be returning any time soon? Don't get me wrong, I kind of feel the same way, but then I am a Manila kind of guy and I prefer the big city over both AC & Subic. I also prefer BKK over Pattaya.

I am very much a city boy. Live in a big city and enjoy it more than smaller venues. When I monger, I seek stimulation, and not relaxation. Lights, music, noise, pussy, alcohol- that is what I need. I don't seek romance or slower pace for which Subic may be ok. The only reason I don't go to Manila is because the city is not particularly interesting, and the barfines are way too expensive. I only go to AC because of the sheer number of pussy. Otherwise, it holds nothing of interest for me. Bangkok is my favourite big city in the whole wide world, but I don't mind Pattaya, because again of all the girls there and the place has an overall enjoyable atmosphere, and many more entertainment options than AC or Subic.

[ConquerorVal]

I think I saw both of them in Date in asia, LOL LOL.

The photo is of the same girl, with the more recent picture being one with the perm curls. Got her photo from her Facebook account, since I did not take one myself. Met her at the Voodoo bar. She was sweet as pie, and insisted I eat her out on a couch. Girl after my heart.

[Member #4698]

Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.

Hey ConquerorVal, I think you summed up Subic pretty well, but I have one question: if you managaed to find a couple of nice girls for your nights, who gave better service GFE-wise than the usual in AC, and I assume they were cheaper too, AND you found the Subic vibe more laid back, then why do you feel you won't be returning any time soon? Don't get me wrong, I kind of feel the same way, but then I am a Manila kind of guy and I prefer the big city over both AC & Subic. I also prefer BKK over Pattaya. Nonetheless, I have always enjoyed my Subic side trips and I usually spend 5 or 6 days there.

It's too bad they don't have a nice clean beach, but then if they did it wouldn't be Subic. LOL.

[Member #1088]

Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.

I think I saw both of them in Date in asia, LOL LOL.

[ConquerorVal]

Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.

[SouthEaster]

You will always find the beach a little less attractive when you bring your own sand!

SE.

[Shazzam]

I'm a regular visitor to PH, with a preference for Cebu, but I visited Subic for the first time last December and was really disappointed in the bar scene and night options in general. Was staying with my honey from Isabela and she's into picking up girls and even she couldn't find an attractive one to play with! I did prefer the more casual feel compared to AC and the hotel had a great little pool during the day when we weren't fucking. I had the most fun at Cheap Charlies both during the day and at night when more crowded. The Pom running it was great fun and very friendly. But I'd struggle to go back when their are so many other places to try. That's my thoughts anyway.

Subic has been very quite since I've been here for the last week. On the nights I went bar hopping, there was generally only one or two other customers in the places I visited. I didn't see any truly stunning girls anywhere. The best I saw I would rate as a 7 ish.

Luckily I had numbers for girls I met last tip so I made use of them for most of the stay. One was free the other was 2 k per night.

The exception was a spinner I picked up from a small bar across from The Pub (sorry, forgot it's name). She had a tight little body but a totally lacklustre performance for 2 k all night.

I also staggered into T Rose one night on the way back from a bar hop for supposedly one last beer. That turned into a double header BJ in one of the booths for 1 k each. It was about 10 pm and they close early at 11 pm. Supposedly I was the only LDs bought for the night. I tended to believe this as the crowds were so light that night and the bar is off the main strip.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

EBD,

I heard that it was going to cater to Koreans. I cannot recall who told me so take it with a grain of salt. If so will a Korean invasion be next? I fucking hope not!

Shining Wit thanks for the smoking update. It is so bloody hot in May I hope my watering hole of choice disguises the ashtrays too. Otherwise I will be heading out only after sunset except for lunch!

SE.

Possibly. I have noticed a few Koreans in Barretto in the last year or so, but only a few. I've also met families on recent visits; a Korean couple with 2 small kids at Mangrove, an overseas Filipino family staying at iCove while visiting family nearby in Calapandyan. The market is still at least 80% single male westerners, though.

We should know soon enough. From the looks of it, it will be opening within a few months.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

Thanks for the info, EBD.

Is the new development you mentioned the one opposite Landlocked, or whatever it is now called, - the bar upstairs with the balcony overlooking National Highway across from the beach side?

Might this be the one that Lewis Yokich was planning? If it is, I would not recommend asking too many questions.

Regarding Mango's, in a way I am not surprised. When I was in Barretto in November, Tommo was having difficulty getting around because of his legs, so selling up and probably retiring makes sense. Also gives some context to the e-mail I received in October from Linked-In saying that Gercheann wanted to add me to her circle of contacts. I didn't think that my good looks, charm, wit and sparkling personality were the cause, and as I have nothing to offer on that site, I let it lie.........

Right. The new hotel is across the street from that bar, now called Rolling Stone. You can see it's relative location on the beach in the first pic I posted from Mangrove.

As for Louis Yakich (his legal name), The Cliffs is the one which his company (aided by disreputable real estate broker Chat Bitangcol) tried to grab. It's located on the hilltop overlooking the intersection of national highway 306 (main Road through BB) & Baloy Long Beach Rd. The Cliffs is 1/2 km west of the new hotel I mentioned.

Tommo's MO has always been to buy money losing places, fix them up & turn them around, then sell them. I heard he was already looking for another place well before Mango's sold.

[SouthEaster]

EBD,

I heard that it was going to cater to Koreans. I cannot recall who told me so take it with a grain of salt. If so will a Korean invasion be next? I fucking hope not!

Shining Wit thanks for the smoking update. It is so bloody hot in May I hope my watering hole of choice disguises the ashtrays too. Otherwise I will be heading out only after sunset except for lunch!

SE.

[Shining Wit]

Thanks for the info, EBD.

Is the new development you mentioned the one opposite Landlocked, or whatever it is now called, - the bar upstairs with the balcony overlooking National Highway across from the beach side?

Might this be the one that Lewis Yokich was planning? If it is, I would not recommend asking too many questions.

Regarding Mango's, in a way I am not surprised. When I was in Barretto in November, Tommo was having difficulty getting around because of his legs, so selling up and probably retiring makes sense. Also gives some context to the e-mail I received in October from Linked-In saying that Gercheann wanted to add me to her circle of contacts. I didn't think that my good looks, charm, wit and sparkling personality were the cause, and as I have nothing to offer on that site, I let it lie.

At SouthEaster.

With regard to smoking, this was the position when I was there.

Arizona. Allowed in rooms, despite notices therein. I did book as a smoking room. Otherwise, there is a table and chairs on the beach or a corner of the car park.

Cheap Charlies. Allowed (or tolerated) along the outside, but cannot remember about the bar itself.

Mango's has a small smoking area of tables and chairs alongside the beach.

My regular watering hole permitted smoking outside, and inside at the bar the ashtrays were 'disguised'.

Also bear in mind that Olongapo City has an Ordinance banning smoking in the street. When my bus from Manila arrived, it could not get in the stand and reversed into Victory Liner's yard. I got off and lit up, and was told I could not, despite standing next to the bus with the engine running, pumping out diesel fumes. Go figure.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

Wild Orchid has been the largest hotel in Barretto for ages, but that will change soon. This project broke ground right in the middle of Manga Beach around 2 years ago & is nearing completion. It will have a large, 2 story atrium & looks like it will be quite nice. I was told it's the project of a group from AC.

Does anyone have any additional info?

Next door, By The Sea is building an annex as well, so the number of hotel rooms in Barretto will increase substantially this year.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

Everyone knows that "barfine" is a dirty word in Barreto. Instead, you might ask the value of the drink commissions your prospective amour du jour must earn before she can accompany you (to dinner)! Here's Mango's explanation of this ridiculous work around.

I recall being told a few years back that there was no more barfine. If I wanted company, said the mama, I had to buy the girl 10 drinks. No problem, I replied; I had already bought her 3. But those didn't count, I was told, nor could she drink the 10 drinks I had to buy her. By pure coincidence the value of the virtual drinks was exactly equal to the barfine of a few months earlier.

Speaking of Mango's, Tommo's 3rd project was sold to a Brit late last year. It has the look & feel of Blue Rock, Arizona, etc; similar menu, dive shop, even the rooms are reminiscent. Another Brit bought T Rose, previously owned by a German, about the same time.