Subic City (Subic Bay)

[Fast Eddie 48]

I had this experince. Subic was more GFE, less pushy for money. Subic also has more activites during the day. Jetski, zoo, treetop, etc. The water isn't that great but you still have more of a holiday beach feeling than in AC. AC is just too boring in daytime. Can't stay there more then a few days.

To Osuul.

I do agree subic bar is less pushy and girl are more GFE than in AC but there are more girl to pick from in AC bar. The girl attiude and GFE is going down hill in AC and I like subic is more quiet and relax you can go the Olongapo city there are 2 mall there to catch a movie and go shopping and scuba dive.

Fast Eddie 48

[Osuul]

I have read the RTFF, but guys I like to hear more views what are the advantages of Subic overe Angeles, for mongering, I have been led to belive the girls are more ferindly and less likely to do a runner like AC, can some experinced mogerer in Subic expand on this and are there any other advantages?

I had this experince. Subic was more GFE, less pushy for money. Subic also has more activites during the day. Jetski, zoo, treetop, etc. The water isn't that great but you still have more of a holiday beach feeling than in AC. AC is just too boring in daytime. Can't stay there more then a few days.

[Hutsori]

I don't quite understand the distinction the US Navy is making in calling for "places not bases." Perhaps it is that they don't want the cost to maintain Subic and would like to be able to pull up anchor and "pivot" again when some new hotspot strikes our fancy. But is is also perhaps useful language for placating anti-American sentiments among Filipinos. We're just visiting, not taking up residence. But I can sure fantasize some angles for creating long-term employment for myself-just long enough to get to retirement. Isn't Obama due to visit soon? He's been looking gray and worn-down lately; if it weren't for the dumbass Secret Service in Colombia and elsewhere some one of the ex-pats could do him a favor by taking him out and getting him righteously laid.

The Philippine constitution forbids the stationing of foreign troops here permanently on their own bases, i.e. as it was with Subic and Clark. When the Yanks sent spec ops "trainers" down south (Zamboanga?) some facilities were built on existing Philippine bases for their use; some in the Philippines claimed this was a constitutional violation, so both the US and Philippine authorities are particularly sensitive re which words are used to describe the US presence here. The Yanks will be allowed to co-locate on Filipino-owned bases. You'll note that the US forces here are on a "rotation" too, unlike the stationing of 2ID in Korea and the 7th Fleet in Japan. The US and Philippines have a "visiting forces agreement" (VFA) and not a "status of forces agreement" (SOFA) too. It's a bit of a shell game here. Obama visits in October I recall.

[Soapy Smith]

Does anyone have updated info on this? It looks like it's going forward in some manner. Check out the links and let me know what you think.

http://english.cntv.cn/program/asiat...9/105113.shtml

http://live.wsj.com/video/philippine...bref=obnetwork

#C2E03B6B-6DA7-42DC-85E0-B9D174392EA1

I don't quite understand the distinction the US Navy is making in calling for "places not bases." Perhaps it is that they don't want the cost to maintain Subic and would like to be able to pull up anchor and "pivot" again when some new hotspot strikes our fancy. But is is also perhaps useful language for placating anti-American sentiments among Filipinos. We're just visiting, not taking up residence. But I can sure fantasize some angles for creating long-term employment for myself-just long enough to get to retirement. Isn't Obama due to visit soon? He's been looking gray and worn-down lately; if it weren't for the dumbass Secret Service in Colombia and elsewhere some one of the ex-pats could do him a favor by taking him out and getting him righteously laid.

[Ajordan]

I have read the RTFF, but guys I like to hear more views what are the advantages of Subic overe Angeles, for mongering, I have been led to belive the girls are more ferindly and less likely to do a runner like AC, can some experinced mogerer in Subic expand on this and are there any other advantages?

I disagree, there are much more women in AC and more GFEs in AC than Subic. I feel that AC feels even safer and more tourist police as well in the streets.

Quantity and Quality is much better in AC. The beach sucks in Subic anyways.

My input, I've been going for 4 years now.

A23

[Pagal Chacha]

I have read the RTFF, but guys I like to hear more views what are the advantages of Subic overe Angeles, for mongering, I have been led to belive the girls are more ferindly and less likely to do a runner like AC, can some experinced mogerer in Subic expand on this and are there any other advantages?

[Satyr23]

Does anyone have updated info on this? It looks like it's going forward in some manner. Check out the links and let me know what you think.

http://english.cntv.cn/program/asiat...9/105113.shtml

http://live.wsj.com/video/philippine...bref=obnetwork#C2E03B6B-6DA7-42DC-85E0-B9D174392EA1

[FreebieFan]

Where on the net?

There are other sites, that operate similar to this site, particularly for those who are addicted to Philippines.

[Jack4765]

Any info on Alaska bar from Angeles opening in Subic?

[John Traveller]

Where on the net?

Was a small raid and two of staff already back at work. Theres lots of discussion about this in other places on the internet.

[FreebieFan]

Hotzone raided and closed two days ago. Other bars are alarmed, of course.

Was a small raid and two of staff already back at work. Theres lots of discussion about this in other places on the internet.

[John Traveller]

Hotzone raided and closed two days ago. Other bars are alarmed, of course.

[Betong]

Pay the 1500 bar fine (geez I hate paying that much)

Really. I mean, that's almost $35. What do these people think we are, made of money?

[Sixty Two Echo]

I met up with a transplant living in the PI for almost 20 years now. The Emu and the Ayjia were the only two bars he mentioned to avoid. He said at the Emu Bar they would try to over charge you at every chance and that it would be up to you to fight for a fair price. Bottom line. Words of wisdom from a long time businessman living in the PI, why challenge it? Went to about twenty bars in Subic and only got a warning about two. I'm back in AC now. Got settled in and went straight to BJ alley about 2pm. Found a 25 year old. Big smile, happy, not too deep of a throat. But she tried. 700p. AC stomps the sh*t out of Subic Bay (IMHO).

[Pip Jaeger]

And I also found out that the Emu bar is a scam bar. So be careful there.

You drop the bomb, but don't say why. Were you scammed?. How?

BTW, thanks for the FR's; brings back some fond memories. And I know what you mean about AC's blow row girls, was staying close by on my last visit and partook a few times of their ST services.