Subic City (Subic Bay)

[Goferring]

6. It is a buyers market here. More girls than guys and a lot of the guys here just hang out with the girls. No need to compete to barfine the only 2-3 hot girls in the bar.

If you don't continue with K, or feel like a change, Subic also has a surprisingly active online scene. I've been very pleasantly surprised a few times. Many are happy to travel in from elsewhere in Zambales but don't set your search distance too far or you will include every bar girl in Angeles.

Thanks for the good report. G.

[DandyMan51]

After Angeles city I went to Manila for a bit but got annoyed by the traffic and honestly the lack of any interesting tourist activities to do there. I also hated the apartment I was in (Admiral Baysuites, if anyone is interested). Check-in was a mess, the apartment was infested with bugs and the AC didn't work.

I arrived in the early evening (about 5 PM) and was tired from having a poor sleep the previous night so I took a nap. I woke up at around 10 PM and had to get some work done. I wasn't able to go out until around 1 AM which isn't a problem in Angleles but is approaching the end of the night in Subic. First place I stopped at was Rosie's tavern. There were about 3-4 girls there but none really caught my eye. I grabbed a beer and was asked by some girls if I would like to play connect 4. I declined though I was pestered by one particular girl a couple of times. I finished my beer and was on my way. I stopped by Luxe next as I had heard good things about it. No one really greeted me as I walked in and I was about to walk out when I was stopped by TinTin. She looked ok (Maybe a 5. 5/10) but seemed pleasant so I sat down for a drink. I bought her and another girl who came over a drink and they entertained me. A couple of other girls came around and sat down and talked with us for a couple of minutes at a time plus some mama-sans. I learned a bit about them and that girls typically come to the bars between 6-7 PM and that there had been 5 girls already barfined that day. In general it was nice. I considered barfining TinTin but she really wasn't up to my standard and I decided it was better to get a good night's sleep. After about an hour, the bar was closing so the girls got changed and I paid for my drink. A decent experience for the $7-8 I paid. I stopped by 7-11 and made my way back home.

The next night I decided to go out at around 6:30 PM. I made a quick stop at Rosie's where I found nothing again and went to The Wet Spot. Grabbed a drink and watched the girls. After a bit I decided to call K from the stage who was hiding in the back. She was thin and looked like a GND. I was told that this was actually her first night at the club and boy did it show. She was so nervous the whole time. Mama-san was trying to help, moving her chair closer to me, telling her to sip her lady drink slower (which was about 90% coke and 10% whiskey), telling her how barfines work and overall teaching her the rules of the trade. After a while I was able to get her comfortable enough to come out with me. Mama was so nervous that she offered to replace her for free if I wasn't satisfied. The girl and I negotiate a barfine. She asks for 4000, I counter with 3000 and she agrees. 1000 of which would be paid by her to the bar when she came back. We leave and I take her to Wild Herbs as I am hungry and I wanted her to feel a bit more comfortable. She is a small girl so she didn't eat much and so the marginal cost of taking her out was effectively just an additional can of coca cola (80 pesos). She was, however, absolutely delighted by the food as she had never been to such a nice restaurant. Now for anyone who hasn't been to Subic, Wild Herbs is an average fast casual restaurant. The total bill was somewhere around 15 USD between the two of us. So it gives you an idea of where some of these province girls come from. After the restaurant we go to my hotel. We talk and mess around a bit more on the bed. The girl was adorable and giggled like a high school girl but she was authentic and we both had a good time. After a bit she tells me about her secret hentai collection on her phone and we watch some together which is a good bridge to some foreplay. We move on and I start DATY. She compliments me on my soft lips and for the first time the girl stops giggling as I eat her out. After a bit she reciprocates and we move to FS. I ask her if she has gotten STD tests done and she says no. So I decide to do some CFS instead. I am on PrEP but wanted to be careful as I suspect this girl never had an STD test done on her before. We do a couple of positions and I cum with K in cowgirl. She stays on top of me and we make out for a bit before she gets off. She gets dressed and we joke around some more. I decide to take her back to the bar as a good gesture and because I wanted to stop by a 7-11 on the way. I get her FB and come back home. I later get a couple of messages from her saying how much she enjoyed her time with me and to hang out at the beach tomorrow. I tell her sure and that I will message her. I have one more day planned in Subic so we'll see how it goes tomorrow and tomorrow night. I may spend the week here with the weekend in Angeles moving forward.

Observations (so far):

1. Mongers here are old. Way older than those in Angeles City. Not necessarily a bad thing since I am young and moderately attractive so I tend to stand out in a good way. Old mongers also tend to be more chill which adds to the laid back feeling of this place.

2. No Koreans here. Probably because Subic airport doesn't have commercial flights whereas Clark does. You need to take a fairly expensive taxi or a bus here which I don't think Koreans will ever do.

3. Girls here are more friendly. There isn't as much of a business attitude here as there is in Angeles. You can get some authenticity and passion out of Angeles girls but it takes way more effort as they (especially the prettier ones) are more hardened.

4. Girls here aren't as attractive as Angeles City but the margin isn't that big. The average girl in both is probably similar but there are certainly more lookers in Angeles. The top girls in Angeles are around an 8. 5 whereas here outside of a very lucky find you won't find anything higher than an 7. 5 in Subic.

5. Lady drinks are relatively cheap here. I paid 170 pesos per drink.

6. It is a buyers market here. More girls than guys and a lot of the guys here just hang out with the girls. No need to compete to barfine the only 2-3 hot girls in the bar.

[QuackUp]

Continue of the bars I went to. The Hot zone. I went here after I found out the wet spot was closed. About 6 girls there on stage ranging from average to above average. Stayed for about half an hour and left. Then went next door to Myleens café to have dinner. I highly recommend this restaurant.

Lux. This is a nice set up bar with stage. My timing was bad as there were only 4 girls on stage that were average looking. There were about seven other customers but none had a girl with them. When the waitress brought my water I asked her if any other ladies would be coming in? She said no and told me 3 girls were barfined already. I then asked her how much was the barfine here. She said you have to negotiate the barfine with the girl. Interesting, I thought all bars had a standard pricing.

Adam's sport bar. This bar is located directly above Lux. First night I went there were about 10 girls but the hottest ones were with one customer. In fact, he had like 5 or 6 girls at his table two of which I would gladly barfine. He bought drinks and food for the girls. I like his style. Since the other girls were not to my liking, I left and came back the next day. Hoping at least one of the two girls I saw would be there, just my luck they weren't. So I did buy a drink for I guess my third choice. Anyways we were talking and somehow we got on the subject of strip clubs. She then lit up and said she knows a place not to far from the bar. I didn't think the Philippines had strip clubs so I asked her, a strip club where the dancers are fully nude? She said yes. I then asked her, if I barfine you can we go to this club. She said absolutely. The barfine was P $3500. I was more excited about going to this stripclub than the actual barfine.

Salomeh. This is the name of the strip club. As we were going there I asked how much is admission. She said nothing but had to buy drinks. This is somewhat correct. No direct admission fee but your first drinks cost more than usual. I believe for our first two drinks it came out to P $400 something. She had a beer for a second drink and that cost P $120. There were about seven customers when we got there with six girls on stage. They were clothed and doing the dance shuffle routine. Now this is not an American style strip club where the dancer perform a routine then will get all into your face. At least when I was there, there were no spread the legs to check what was between them. After their initial dance together, they went back stage. Then one would come out for a song and dance fully nude. So nothing hard core but I still loved it. At least you get to see what you get before hand. There were at least two that I would barfine. Two were average and two were on the bigger side if you like that. The hottest girl was slim pretty face, some baby damage but perky tits. Actually all the dancers had some kind of baby damage. If I didn't have the bargirl with me I would have barfined that one hot girl. I did ask my bar girl to ask the waiter how much the bar fine was. She told me she was pretty sure it was P $5000. The way that one girl looked, it seemed reasonable. Not sure how the service would be. We stayed for about an hour, no other girls showed up then went back to my hotel. If I come back to Subic this place will probably be my first stop.

To give you an idea of where this place is. It is just past the Jollybee's on the main highway. It's about a 10 minute walk from the Outback hotel and about 3 minutes by trike.

[QuackUp]

Since there is no hotel section for Subic, I'll put it here. I stayed at the Outback hotel. Best feature is the location and girl friendly. When I arrived to check in they said they couldn't find my reservation. I showed them my copy of the reservation and they found the reservation but said because of a mis-communication with expedia they didn't hold my reservation. They said my standard room was no longer available so if I wanted to upgrade to a larger room for an additional cost. I asked why do I have to pay for something that wasn't my doing. They blamed it on expedia. I was thinking of going to another hotel but if these guys weren't willing to at least give me a discount on an upgrade, what chance would I have of getting my money back on a non refundable room? I didn't want to fight them so I took the upgrade at an additional cost of $150.00 usd. The original cost was for $120.00 usd. After paying the fee then the female manager says now I'll go over some rules of the hotel. Great! First rule, no outside food is allowed. Second, no outside drinks except water was allowed. Third, must leave the key with staff when you leave the property. They want to make sure you spend money at their hotel.

My room was on the second floor and no elevator so keep that in mind if you need that kind of assistance. If you want your room cleaned you need to tell staff. I learn this on the third day since the room was never cleaned until I told them to. They don't really clean the room. Just made up the bed and replaced the towels. I doubt I will return to this hotel even though the location and price is good when they actually honor the price.

Here are the bars I went to in no special order. The secret bar. As I walk in there is a customer getting grinded by a bar girl at his table. My kind of place. I grab a seat and order a water. There were about 4 other girls in the place and were average in looks. The waitress came back and said they don't have water but they had soft drinks instead. Since the other girls were just average, I used that as an excuse to leave and told her I would come back when they had water. I never got back to this place.

The wet spot. Entered and grabbed a seat facing the stage. There were about 6 girls on stage with one being pretty cute. We exchanged smiles but before I called her down, I noticed some guys and girls going through a door. I asked the waitress where does that door lead to? She said the next door bar but only pool tables no stage. So I get up to walk through just to see if there any other girls there. Just like the waitress said pool table and people just sitting around. No lookers so went back to call the cute girl down. As I walk back, I see the girl walking from the stage to a customer. My indecision cost me. The only thing I could think of, I'll come back tomorrow and bar fine her then. Well that didn't happen either because when I went back on a Monday, the place was closed.

[LoveItHere69]

Too many social media posts, too many pictures, too easy for fun to be taken out of context.

No. Not so much. You answer is small fries. You are either young or not well read. Try the marine that killed the trans Filipino in 2014 that hit international news for months. Several issues in Okinawa Japan in the past and hit international news off and on for years which caused the locals and large amounts of Japanese demanding our bases be closed there. Any thing a USA Personnel does is international news and problems for the military and politicians.

[AsianPursuits]

You lost your mind? Where have you been? All the "good ol' days" are gone. The politicians pushed it to the brass who pushed it downward 9+ years ago.

Too many social media posts, too many pictures, too easy for fun to be taken out of context.

[LoveItHere69]

I have been reading about this for some time now. I imagine things have changed a lot over the years.

I would like to know if there is any excitement by the local population and if there are any plans to revive "the old days".

You lost your mind? Where have you been? All the "good ol' days" are gone. The politicians pushed it to the brass who pushed it downward 9+ years ago. Roughly the military guys are forbidden to fornicate on leave and if caught could be demoted a rank. They have a 11:00 or midnight curfew. I do not know the specifics because they are always changing but you get the idea. I remember when they came to town the girls went nuts and the guys were out all night long. Then a few years later the guys were like a wild dog on a leash. I felt so bad for them because so many never were able to see the "good ol' days" that the older guys spoke of.

[Magic501]

I have been reading about this for some time now. I imagine things have changed a lot over the years.

I would like to know if there is any excitement by the local population and if there are any plans to revive "the old days".

[YngMong]

Few posters mentioned they would be visiting Subic over the summer and recent reports. Thinking of spending a few days here in conjunction with AC. Umderstamd much more sleepy than AC which O don't mind but wondering if there is any decent quality, like 6 or 7, what prices are like and genral vibe of bars?

Cheers.

YM.

[Beavis]

Many of the Barretto / Baloy establishments now use AsianVision Fiberoptic for internet. It is consistent and very seldom does it go out.

[Buhuiba]

The Pub hotel had consistent 150 mbs internet speeds, plenty for Zoom calls in the US. After four days I had no experience with outages. But I always keep my phone nearby to use as a hotspot in case th ehotel internet fails.

[Ghost D]

-+ I never went back because of the internet quality issues.

It's a great topic on Internet Access, which has actually improved a lot, given that many might be interested in this topic I will post my thoughts and experiences in the general info thread, hopefully you find it useful.

[Parasitius]

I absolutely love Subic, my best Philippines experiences were there. In 2014 it was cheaper by far than Angeles. Don't know about now, you see -+ I never went back because of the internet quality issues. Hotels also seemed to not take it serious and write stupid stuff like you should be present and enjoy not sit online. Yeah maybe if you are a factory worker or janitor? Most of us don't have jobs that are chill with people going totally AWOL in 2022

[Beavis]

Want to know what is nice about Subic? No huge influx of Koreans, every bar is owned by someone (non Korean) who cares about their customers and none of them will ever rip you off. Angeles City is good for about a week of partying and hangovers then it has absolutely nothing to offer except bad roads, bad drivers, and horrible traffic. To each his own but it's hard to find much good to say about AC other than the nightlife.

[Expat American]

Any updates on Subic?

I will be visiting Angeles at the end of September and was wondering if it's worth it to swing by Subic for a couple of days? This will be my first trip to the Philippines.

Appreciate any advice.

I have been to AC dozens of times. Subic only once. I wanted to dive the wrecks (total waste of time with terrible water conditions) and spent a couple of nights in Subic. A handful of bars, nothing open during the day, not cheaper than AC. No decent hotels either. I cut my trip to one night and hightailed it back to AC. So Subic is a pass.