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[BionicMan]

I think this is a bit bigger than Formula-1 and other sweeps RD.

If the lock-down that occurred in Manila when POTUS visited is anything to go by, I would predict that SIN will also be very secure. Even Changi will have no arrivals/departures while AF 1 is there, and the NoKor leader will also want all the trappings too.

Such a high-profile international event will have the eyes of the world on them and the govt will not want any f*ck-ups.

All airports work normally when AF1 is parked.

Higher degree of security but fully operational. Maybe a bit of traffic separation during landing and take off.

Tons of pictures in the web of landing or take off and parked.

City traffic will be controlled and residential / meeting location in full security bit cities are not blocked.

[Blanquiceleste]

I think this is a bit bigger than Formula-1 and other sweeps RD.

If the lock-down that occurred in Manila when POTUS visited is anything to go by, I would predict that SIN will also be very secure. Even Changi will have no arrivals/departures while AF 1 is there, and the NoKor leader will also want all the trappings too.

Such a high-profile international event will have the eyes of the world on them and the govt will not want any f*ck-ups.

I am hoping the Government declares a full week's holiday. That said, one cannot shut down an entire airport (the only commercial one) for any international visitor, even POTUS. I am betting they will make the landing at Paya Lebar Air Base and whisk them away unnoticed. Unless Trump wants to smile and wave at reporters.

[Red Kilt]

I am predicting this will not be a high profile sweep (like when they publish in the newspapers to get civil credits). More like when they just want to do a cleanup before a big event (like they do around Formula-1 time).

I think this is a bit bigger than Formula-1 and other sweeps RD.

If the lock-down that occurred in Manila when POTUS visited is anything to go by, I would predict that SIN will also be very secure. Even Changi will have no arrivals/departures while AF 1 is there, and the NoKor leader will also want all the trappings too.

Such a high-profile international event will have the eyes of the world on them and the govt will not want any f*ck-ups.

[Blanquiceleste]

$150 to $250ST, $250 to $300 LT. Depends on many factors though. I would have concentrated on the pretty girl in the flowery dress as I've always had best results from the quiet new girls standing around the edges rather than the hardened pros at the bar.

Does not matter when they are all dogs.

[JohnSue]

I can safely exclude that a girl who approaches you in Ipanema in that way is either on her first time, or she could not be there just for the money. They are all well seasoned working girls and they know how to squeeze money out of the foreigner (even new ones get a crash course from veterans).

ALL hotels in Singapore are girl friendly. Nobody will even ask the girl to register.

Just remember there are different sorts of marketing. Supply and demand plays a part, but not until pretty late usually. Charging what the market can bare / bear is the more usual approach of the more hardcore BG's. And that I guess is what you will find in IP's. If they think you are a newbie or rich they will ask a lot more. My approach is to find out what the typical price range is, which you have done with a lot of replies from other members, and then ask the lady what she wants, after making it clear I understand the scene (even if I don't. But I do in most places in SEAsia). If she asks more than I want to pay I politely walk away. If I really like the girl I might offer her a "if you are really good I will pay that" I have done this is Thailand a few times with generally good results. But many of the girls in OT are controlled by agents and have less room to negotiate as they have big fees to pay. Never ever pay in advance, particularly to PRC girls. This may be the rule in the West but any lady that asked for money up front in Asia is intending to rip you off. If you are not farang this may not be true, and I know none whites can have a hard time, but if you take someone LT and they ask for payment up front they will probably get a call after an hour from a "friend needing help". If this happens tell her firmly you will pay her half ahead and half in the morning. If she doesn't agree send her home. This rarely happens, but spoils your night when it does. I once took two very cute Cambodian ladies from the old Beach Bar Cafe in KL. They would only come together and I don't usually do two. I agreed a LT price but thought they might be scamming. I got back to room, paid them half and showed them I had the other half, and put it in the safe. The sex was great. But then they left. No point fighting, just don't pay upfront. Most of the ladies are decent honest people, but a few aren't and it depends largely on where they are from and the basis they are working on.

Good luck!

JS.

[JohnSue]

Thanks for the info Black Page, guess she saw me as a sucks but in the few minutes I spoke with her she seemed like someone I may want to take back. I forgot to ask their prices, what do OT girls usually charge?

Good info about the hotels, thanks again.

Just remember there are different sorts of marketing. Supply and demand plays a part, but not until pretty late usually. Charging what the market can bare / bear is the more usual approach of the more hardcore BG's. And that I guess is what you will find in IP's. If they think you are a newbie or rich they will ask a lot more. My approach is to find out what the typical price range is, which you have done with a lot of replies from other members, and then ask the lady what she wants, after making it clear I understand the scene (even if I don't. But I do in most places in SEAsia). If she asks more than I want to pay I politely walk away. If I really like the girl I might offer her a "if you are really good I will pay that" I have done this is Thailand a few times with generally good results. But many of the girls in OT are controlled by agents and have less room to negoitiate as they have big fees to pay. Never ever pay in advance, particularly to PRC girls. This may be the rule in the West but any lady that askes for money up front in Asia is intending to rip you off. If you are not farang this may not be true, and I know none whites can have a hard time, but if you take someone LT and they ask for payment up front they will probably get a call after an hour from a "friend needing help". If this happens tell her firmly you will pay her half ahead and half in the morning. If she doesn't agree send her home. This rarely happens, but spoils your night when it does. I once took two very cute Cambodian ladies from the old Beach Bar Cafe in KL. They would only come together and I don't usually do two. I agreed a LT price but thought they might be scamming. I got back to room, paid them half and showed them I had the other half, and put it in the safe. The sex was great. But then they left. No point fighting, just don't pay upfront. Most of the ladies are decent honest people, but a few aren't and it depends largely on where they are from and the basis they are working on.

Good Luck!!

JS.

[Mondeoman]

Thanks for the info Black Page, guess she saw me as a sucks but in the few minutes I spoke with her she seemed like someone I may want to take back. I forgot to ask their prices, what do OT girls usually charge?

$150 to $250ST, $250 to $300 LT. Depends on many factors though. I would have concentrated on the pretty girl in the flowery dress as I've always had best results from the quiet new girls standing around the edges rather than the hardened pros at the bar.

[CockaSaurus]

I can safely exclude that a girl who approaches you in Ipanema in that way is either on her first time, or she could not be there just for the money. They are all well seasoned working girls and they know how to squeeze money out of the foreigner (even new ones get a crash course from veterans).

ALL hotels in Singapore are girl friendly. Nobody will even ask the girl to register.

Thanks for the info Black Page, guess she saw me as a sucks but in the few minutes I spoke with her she seemed like someone I may want to take back. I forgot to ask their prices, what do OT girls usually charge?

Good info about the hotels, thanks again.

[Black Page]

and within 5 minutes a girl tapped me in me arm and smiled. She looked decent and had some small talk, her English was limited and she seemed a bit shy, like it was her first time or something. After a bit of chat she got right to the point and asked me if I wanted company for the night.

At this moment I saw the first girl standing a few meters from me by herself and if I had any intention of taking a girl, it would be her as it didn't seem to be just for the money. I never asked either girl for price but maybe I should have.

I can safely exclude that a girl who approaches you in Ipanema in that way is either on her first time, or she could not be there just for the money. They are all well seasoned working girls and they know how to squeeze money out of the foreigner (even new ones get a crash course from veterans).

after doing some hotel recon as wasn't sure my hotel was girl friendly.

ALL hotels in Singapore are girl friendly. Nobody will even ask the girl to register.

[Blanquiceleste]

Anybody else laying low for the next couple of weeks? I am expecting LE to be out in full force doing sweeps of the usual non-legal areas (everything outside the Geylang licensed brothels).

I am predicting this will not be a high profile sweep (like when they publish in the newspapers to get civil credits). More like when they just want to do a cleanup before a big event (like they do around Formula-1 time).

If anybody is out and about over the next couple of weeks can you give a heads-up if you see any LE activity?

I really do not think the world will turn on its head because two jokers are meeting in the Red Dot. Also, from my experience, if anything, the supply of pussy goes up dramatically a week before F1 and stays that way for a week after. Been that way since the first race in 2008.

[CockaSaurus]

After many trips to Geylang, wanted to check out Orchard Towers. Got there and went up escalators and Ipenema was right there and actually a line to get in. No cover but had to get a drink which I did Tiger draft for 13.50, kinda pricey. Saw some girls getting in to but nothing spectacular. Got in and scoped out the area and headed for the bar to get my beer. Walked a few circles and good amount of girls in scandalously clad dresses, lots of fake boobs. Some pretty girls just standing around. Camped at the bar for a bit with my beer and within 5 minutes a girl tapped me in me arm and smiled. She looked decent and had some small talk, her English was limited and she seemed a bit shy, like it was her first time or something. After a bit of chat she got right to the point and asked me if I wanted company for the night. I said maybe later and got her name, she smiled and walked away. Camped a bit to check out the action and it was good, lots of people having fun and more girls walking in, there was some talent there. Saw this one very pretty girl next door and she did not look like she belonged there in her flowery dress, she would have been good to go for church.

Another girl walked up to me and started talking, her English was better as she commenced small talk telling me she was here studying and I tried really hard not to laugh, I asked her studying what but she then got right to the point and asked me if I wanted her company tonight. I politely declined and she straight up walked away without saying a word. At this moment I saw the first girl standing a few meters from me by herself and if I had any intention of taking a girl, it would be her as it didn't seem to be just for the money. I never asked either girl for price but maybe I should have.

Finished up my beer and did another round around the place and then headed out. Saw the PRC girls I read about by the massage parlors and one beckoned me but I waved my hand and went down the escalators. It was a good learning experience and next time I'm in SG I will definitely partake at Ipanema after doing some hotel recon as wasn't sure my hotel was girl friendly. This actually helped me a bit when I went to Beach Club the next night which I'll write about in KL forum.

[RedDragon64]

Anybody else laying low for the next couple of weeks? I am expecting LE to be out in full force doing sweeps of the usual non-legal areas (everything outside the Geylang licensed brothels).

I am predicting this will not be a high profile sweep (like when they publish in the newspapers to get civil credits). More like when they just want to do a cleanup before a big event (like they do around Formula-1 time).

If anybody is out and about over the next couple of weeks can you give a heads-up if you see any LE activity?

[JohnSue]

Badoo is my 'go to' Singapore app to line up possibilities prior to arrival. It's mostly Pinays with the odd Indo and Malaysian. The bulk are domestic helpers. As per the many many previous comments throughout this forum, unless you're there on a Sunday it's hard for this to go anywhere. I avoid profiles that contain "God fearing". Our Supreme Being is quite the cock blocker. There are lot of nurses in SG as foreign workers. I've had a lot of good luck and they're pretty cool. The age bracket that I have success in is from 30's to late 30's (I don't look above this age). There does not appear to be a lot of younger talent on this app. I also used to use an app called Tagged, I had success on it a few years ago but it's all but petered out for me.

WeChat is my app when I hit the ground. A few years ago, I picked up within hours of landing. It's never failed me. There are so some hot af freelancers (and scams) there.

Regardless of the app, getting catfished is a problem. I got caught out badly last time. Always have a pre-prepared exit strategy if things go to shit.

If the planets align, I'll be there within days. Will report back.

Thanks Image,

I did have to look up what "catfished" actually meant, but now I understand!

I will report back once I get there.

JS.

[Image Checker]

Thanks, Ebauche. That's an interesting take that I hadn't considered.

Another barrier for me is how hard it is to engage in just a normal conversation. Need to keep it simple, avoid abstractions, keep it light, etc.

[Ebauche]

I avoid profiles that contain "God fearing". Our Supreme Being is quite the cock blocker.

One flaw in your filter. Most Pinay are Catholic, and they truly believe in the ability of Confession to cleanse them of their sins. It almost gives them permission to misbehave, as they know they have a "get out of jail free" card at the ready. Their perspective regarding "God fearing" is that you at least profess to having a version of a Christian religion. Doesn't have to be Catholic, although they'the be happier that way. You certainly don't have to be saintly. They'the prefer you to be more devilish, while nominally Christian, with money to help when the family water buffalo bites it.

But I agree with going after nurses and other Pinay that aren't DHs. Had a lovely time with a lonely engineer a few trips back. If I'the still been living in SIN, she'the have made for a good GF and travel partner. Had a decent mind, although still affected by Pinay simplicity, and tried hard to please in the sack.