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[SG Korea]

I guess you're frequenting the low-end anmas.

Seriously, if you're spending 70K for 20 minutes for wham bam thank you m'am at an RLD cf 200k for a full hour of a semblance of GFE or PSE on the Hill. Well do the cost / benefit analysis yourself.

And yeah you get something more in an anma. The sauna. But you also get less. Minimal communication, if any, unless yoy have Korean skills. Of course, on the Hill you have to find the gems in the rough. I was trying to point one out.

In end, though, it is all about preferences, yeah.

The cost / benefit analysis is pretty easy to figure out. 70k / 20 min easily converts to 210k / hr, but who spends an hour at the red lights? I certainly don't need an hour to handle business with a decent girl. So, I walk out of there happy and with an extra 130k in my pocket.

210k / hr+ at an An-ma, (the one I went to in Songtan at least) , you get a jacuzzi bath with face mask and shoulder rub from the girl, then table shower+cat bath, Then you handle business, then another shower, and off to the blind massage. So I spent 10k extra and got a whole hell of a lot more than you would with the hill ladies.

I personally have never visited the hill, I don't hang out in Itaewon, and after reading past reports. I see people getting ripped off on time vs services and lady drinks. Not my scene at all.

Like I said, I like to take the normal price for the most you can get, and base what I'm willing to pay off of that. From your report, while I'm not doubting you thoroughly enjoyed yourself, it just doesn't sound like my scene. For what it's worth I do speak a bit of Korean, and haven't had too much of a problem communicating with the girls. Alot of An-ma girls speak a bit of English as well, so all important points are communicated, and we have a good time together.

I'm not knocking your report at all, so don't take it personally, I'm all for sharing information such as that. I'm just pointing out that as you said. Doing a cost / benefit analysis points me in other directions.

It is what it is!

SG

[MenMyFranknstein]

$$/hr is pretty standard An-ma prices for us waygooks. I thought the hill was supposed to be much cheaper.

In fact, in an An-ma you get way more than you would on the hill.

It must be a personal thing for me, but I try not to overpay based on what different services offer. If it's just a bit of BJ and FS, there's no way I would pay $$/hr, not even for hotel delivery. I'd rather go spend my 60-70k at the RLD and walk around the corner to the bar after I was finished, and spend the rest on drinks for myself.

More power to you guys who pay these prices, but I can't bring myself to do it.

I guess you're frequenting the low-end anmas.

Seriously, if you're spending 70K for 20 minutes for wham bam thank you m'am at an RLD cf 200k for a full hour of a semblance of GFE or PSE on the Hill. Well do the cost / benefit analysis yourself.

And yeah you get something more in an anma. The sauna. But you also get less. Minimal communication, if any, unless yoy have Korean skills. Of course, on the Hill you have to find the gems in the rough. I was trying to point one out.

In end, though, it is all about preferences, yeah.

[SG Korea]

Not sure when she started (but relatively recently. Though she also reportedly worked with Young-eun 5 years ago@Starbutts, but here's hoping Jina, also self-designated as "Spicy Pussy", stays around for awhile. Room salon / anma looks@hooker hill prices. Tall, easily 5'10" in heels, long-legged and slender, but shapely, w / a nice S-line. Natural, full Bs. And best of all, very naughty, starting w / an open wantonly "fuck me" look, preceding an announcement of her intention to "swallow your cock" and plenty more dirty talk and followed by making good on her promise with both her mouth and her tight spicy pussy. Short, bobbed "Flapper"-like hair, reasonably attractive. Sexy more than pretty. And, oh, those challenging "fuck me" eyes. $$/hour.

$$/hr is pretty standard An-ma prices for us waygooks. I thought the hill was supposed to be much cheaper.

In fact, in an An-ma you get way more than you would on the hill.

It must be a personal thing for me, but I try not to overpay based on what different services offer. If it's just a bit of BJ and FS, there's no way I would pay $$/hr, not even for hotel delivery. I'd rather go spend my 60-70k at the RLD and walk around the corner to the bar after I was finished, and spend the rest on drinks for myself.

More power to you guys who pay these prices, but I can't bring myself to do it.

[Barracuda93]

Visited a kiss-bang suggested by Supermonkey, located at Sinchon (exit 2, behind the Pizza Hut). Place definitely has spoiled since his visit. Prices: 40000/30 min and 70000/1 hour, but only kiss and light touch through clothes, and girls very average and not young (about 30–32). No "special service" existing anymore. Not recommended.

Does anyone try with coffee delivery girls in Seoul? Or the thing only works in Kwangju?

And what about freelancer college student at DVD-bangs who can go with inside for some presents which you buy with them: any positive experience?

[MenMyFranknstein]

I was taken with my experience with Jina@Drama I went back the next night for more. Alas, she wasn't working. So I decided to look around a bit. Headed up across the street for the always satisfying Soo-Ae, but she was busy; so I headed back down the street to check out the Hill proper. Near the top on the north side I spotted Yuna@Mississippi. I think the first time I saw her was 10 years ago at Young-eun's Starbutts. Yuna had just come back to Korea from Japan. She was wearing impossibly high cavalry boots and hot pants and was looking very, very good. In the intervening years, she seems to have gone thru some rough times and sometimes looked fairly ravaged. She's now older, obviously, and looks her age; but she's looking pretty good again these days. I decided to roll the dice, and walked in. Once we got the mojo underway, it was like going back 10 years. Only better. Yuna always gave good head, but her dick play skills actually have improved. So I settled in for an extended BBBJ, accompanied by some handjob action, teabagging and rimming. It was so good I decided to skip the CFS that was on offer (remembering that the first time years ago she was too tight to take more than a 1/4 of Mr Hyde) and just went for a full hour of oral power climaxing with a great CIM finish. Recommended, with the caution that she is a player and is likely to try to weadle for more than the agreed fee.

[MenMyFranknstein]

Not sure when she started (but relatively recently. Though she also reportedly worked with Young-eun 5 years ago@Starbutts, but here's hoping Jina, also self-designated as "Spicy Pussy", stays around for awhile. Room salon / anma looks@hooker hill prices. Tall, easily 5'10" in heels, long-legged and slender, but shapely, w / a nice S-line. Natural, full Bs. And best of all, very naughty, starting w / an open wantonly "fuck me" look, preceding an announcement of her intention to "swallow your cock" and plenty more dirty talk and followed by making good on her promise with both her mouth and her tight spicy pussy. Short, bobbed "Flapper"-like hair, reasonably attractive. Sexy more than pretty. And, oh, those challenging "fuck me" eyes. $$/hour.

[Barracuda93]

Just finished up with the lovely Mina. The girl fucked the taste out of my mouth. I have nothing but good things to say regarding her borderline PSE performance. She knows her way around a cock. Her pussy tastes like ambrosia, and she's ok with DFK (which is good for me because there's nothing I like better than swapping her pussy juices back to her). I can honestly say that I didn't fuck Mina, she fucked me. Afterwards we shared a glass of wine and some lovely post-coital conversation. Passable English. Same rates as reported above.

Where to check for a contact?

[WSM300]

One thing that I love is that most women here leave the carpet untrimmed. Maybe I have retro tastes, but I am tired of the shaved look, it's got no character or texture, to me the Bush really adds to the experience. I went to a BBS just down the street from Moran station exit three in a basement next to a noraebang the other day and got full service from a 40 something adjumma with big tits and a full Bush, pubes were very long and dark. She was a little old and not the best looking, but I loved the Bush. All was had for 70 manwon.

I am hooked. There's another bbs in kongook dae underneath a boshintang restaurant with an adjumma with a giant Bush. What's the biggest Bush you've ever seen in Korea and where?

[VancouverBoy]

Having non-Koreans teaching one another Korean is always dangerous. However, I believe Koreans normally refer to these establishments as Dealim bars or "'friendship Bars." Most of my Korean friends say that the girls will just talkand cuddle but I have always gotten laid (quality not counted) every time. Of course, it takes a lot longer since the girls want you to reach a certain bar tab level before they will do you, but sex never seemed to be in question even without Korean language skills. Heck in a couple cases, the girl actually had some English and it ended up being like a fun drunk tutoring session.

Bikini Bars and Modern Bars are more often larger club type environments with multiple girls in a more classy well lit place. I have gone with Korean friends to those places and the goal was simply drinking and talking to a girl in a bikini. I found it odd and quietly frustrating to say the least.

Hey, I really enjoyed reading your detailed posts! Thank you! For all the informations that your sharing with us! Can you please helping me how I can find these. Friendship bars. Where are they. How can I recognize them. Can you tell me about an area where I can find more of these. I live in Bundang but I'm willing to go to Seoul. I also never tried the. RLD places. But I want to go to Miari. At Gireum station. Exit 10 isn't it. Can we go there together. At least one time? . If not. Is it okay to go there late afternoon. 4-5 pm. Or should I go only after dark. I'm caucasian male, speak basic korean, enough to get arround! .

So I m asking about two things : 1. Friendship Bar (or bikini bar) system, and when is the time to go there (hours?) , what should I do once I'm inside. Etc, etc.

2. The; Miari (Gireum) , should I expect the "mamasan" to call me inside while I'm walking. What time is good to go there. And please let me know if your available to monger together, and if "yes" when are you available. And I will give you my phone number if so, but don't send me PM. I can't read them! Thanks!

[Sad Sam]

I was in Seoul last week and thanks to all the info on this forum I was well prepared to try my hand at a few different options.

On the first night, I decided that I would try 588. Based on the directions given in this forum of exiting the Cheongnyangni station thru Exit 5 was perfect. As soon as you come out, there are 3 rows of glass houses. It was a week night and was around mid night. Based on all the recommendations, I wasnt too hopeful but thought I would try my luck walking around. I must say that the women are much better looking than most other mogering places elsewhere in Asia. However, if you are not a local, it is very hard to get any rise out of them. Any way, somehwere in the middle row, I spotted a fairly young and cute looking girl with a great body. Surprisingly she simled at me and then I decided to take the chance. I went in and paid the usual 70K and we were off to the races. She was extremely GFE and I had one of the best mongering experiences in a long time. Lots of DFK, BBBJ, DATY. You name it and I got it. Multiple positions and best of all in the end it was a totally satisfying CIM experience. I think I just lucked out both with the girl, her body and the experience.

On the 2nd night, I ended up in Itaewon. I walked the Hookerhill and franlly was quite disappointed with the quality available. They were all caling out and freindly but nothing caught my fancy. Finally, I ended up going with the famous Soo-Ae of PeachFuzz. After a little beer and a lady drink for her, we got down to business. It was a reasonable GFE experience with the usual DFK, groping, BBBJ and multiple positions, but I didn't get the feeling that CIM would be on offer. Any case, she certainly had mileage and was no where as attractive as the one I had in 588. Overall, she has a good body though.

Final night was the worst experience I had. I thought I would try out the DBP place near Bobo Hotel in Hapjong. With the directions provided here, it was failry easy to spot. Did the usual exhange of 90K and then lay down when the lady came. I got a good massage but after that it all went downhill. First of all she was very old and not at all attractive. She did have a curvy body but there was no GFE at all. I got a very perfunctory BBBJ and then onto a condom and missionary. I thought I would not be able to complete the deal since the place also is very dingy and the atmosphere was pretty bad.

So, all in all, I found the best experience where I least expected it. But more importantly, thanks to the wisdom in this forum, even though I speak not a word of Korean, I managed to navigate Seoul!

So, good luck folks.

[Blazing]

Unfortunately, the price mentioned above is no longer correct. The last time I went to the Sporex at the Koreana Hotel (late last year) the price for the full massage and HJ had been increased to 110k. In addition, you have to pay 18k to enter the sauna. This sounds like what Blazing is looking for, as the massage at the Sporex is fantastic (the best I've ever had, actually) but it's really expensive, I think. There's got to be a cheaper place for this, but it's not something I have investigated.

Thanks for the information guys, will try and check it out when I have time and ill let you know how it goes, sounds good though, except your right, the price seems pretty hefty but least its a starting point.

[Ezinho]

I haven't been in a long time, so I don't know about prices but this might help: From Message #5958 and #5966 in this forum: "The saunas at the Koreana and the New Seoul across the street provide happy endings. Full massage, then release. 90K KRW; generally the girls are a little older, looks vary all over the lot, very hit or miss."

Unfortunately, the price mentioned above is no longer correct. The last time I went to the Sporex at the Koreana Hotel (late last year) the price for the full massage and HJ had been increased to 110k. In addition, you have to pay 18k to enter the sauna. This sounds like what Blazing is looking for, as the massage at the Sporex is fantastic (the best I've ever had, actually) but it's really expensive, I think. There's got to be a cheaper place for this, but it's not something I have investigated.

[Koyangi]

Thanks man, ill try and find some around and check them out, after reading thru the forum (there is a lot of stuff to sift thru!) I think your right and this seems like the best option. When you went, what kind of price range where you paying? I also read that the occasional barber shop pole place can do this, thou I know that is pretty hit and miss at best

I haven't been in a long time, so I don't know about prices but this might help: From Message #5958 and #5966 in this forum: "The saunas at the Koreana and the New Seoul across the street provide happy endings. Full massage, then release. 90K KRW; generally the girls are a little older, looks vary all over the lot, very hit or miss."

Barbershops rarely provide a full-on oil massage with any kind of service, although it might be possible. (Hyugetels offer full showers / baths and body-on-body rubdowns and / or tongue baths followed by full service, but usually no oil massages.)

If you go in a barbershop and there's a counter with a price list either on the wall or on the counter, the shop will offer oil massages, but you will be told up front,"No sex". Now, I've been in massage parlors where I've been told "No sex" by the guy who took my money, only to have a girl come bouncing in after the blind masseuse left asking if I wanted a 70, 000 won "date", but I've never tested whether the oil massage places have happy endings.

Of course, I could be full of crap, but I'm only going on my own experiences.

[Fatboy 1980]

This is what I like to hear!

Did you negotiate in Korean or English?

Sounds like a trip to Miari is in my future.

Bit of broken Korean and broken English and some Konglish too.

[JohnnyAsia]

Below comparison between three red light districts. I am a gyopo with intermediate Korean language skills. Unfortunately, I forgot the prices.

588.

Medium sized RLD. Pretty girls. Some had plastic surgery. The girl I chose offered me 20 minutes for 70K (?). Not really GFE, but not too rushed either. After BBBJ reverse CG. Body / face / service: 8/8/7.

Miari.

Passed the ajumma's at the exit (too aggressive) of the metro. Took a right and one mamasan grabbed my by the arm. Decided to give it a shot. There was just one girl but cute enough. Directed me into a small noreabang. Negotiated price, with 40 minutes 140K (?) they promised special service. I asked what this was and apparently this involves DFK. After some chitchat and beers, she rides me in the noraebang (BBFS). After that off to another room and another "finish" this time with condom. Body / face / service: 7/7/8.

Suwon.

Largest RLD that I know of. Girls in 588 are prettier though, I think. Same price. 70K (?). After a shower BBBJ and then she rides me. Able to talk a little bit and almost some GFE. Definitely not rushed. Body / face / service: 8/8/8.