Seoul

[Tica Man]

You know why?

Because Korean people do not like to see foreigners at their venues no matter you are western or asian or black person. This is because of the fear at ADIS.

lol.

I don't know why they don't see non Koreans but I don't think fear of AIDS is the reason. I am sure Chinese or Indians have lower Aids percentage among their populations than Koreans. I really don't know why they will not see non Koreans, may be due to police raid they will get more trouble if the get caught with foreigners.

When I read the posts here and on other boards, I think Korean and Janpanese are racist, they will not let foreigners to enter some places such as some restaurants or Suana places. This is just not right.

[Khk10]

I used to sleep at a massage parlor called Finkle. I do not know if this place still exists. It is located between the Hyundai Department Store in Samsung-Dong and the Renaissance Hotel.

This massage parlor is behind a Starbucks. Sorry but I do not remember the exact directions.

Business at this place was slow after 4am. So I would just take a 3 to 4 hour nap. I was not charged for taking a nap. But I would give a 10,000 won tip and say thank you to the mamasan.

The best times (in my opinion) to visit a RLD is 8pm. Because there are not many customers and the girls are fresh, clean and ready to work.

4am is the best time to get a good deal.

For example, at Miari, it is 70,000 won (if you pay by cash). But pretend that you only have 50,000. 9 out of 10 times, the mamasan and the girl will accept only 50,000. After all, it is time for them to close and call it a day. And you can take your time (take an extra 15 minutes or so) with the girl.

I'm staying at the Renaissance right now and yes, Pinkl is still there. I saw it yesterday on my taxi ride home.

I'm going to check out this anma called Lexy either tonight or tomorrow. I'll write up a report then.

[Fast Eddie 48]

All anmas in Korea provides sleeping rooms(95%) or matress in a huge room with other customers(5%). The anmas in Kangnam area even prepared canned beers and meals(ramen and bab(rice and side dishes). All these services are included in 180,000.

For miari, they lock the price at 70,000 for one fuck and if you pretend to have only 50,000 or 60,000 they will give you a cold back of them.

Even Koreans have to pay 70,000 and as far as I know no more foreigners at Miari because when Koreans see foreginers they think this place is history and never want to return.

Additonally, RLDs have 2 shift that normally 6:00~18:00 and 18:00 ~ 6:00 or 7:00 and if you go to late like 4:00am you can have a more relaxed session but that does not mean you will get more than you paid.

to cocoroso

Do you know mirari service other asians , I am chinese got service there 2
year ago I know thing probably change now , they have some hot girl there
but service is too rush.

fast eddie 48

[Cocoroso]

All anmas in Korea provides sleeping rooms(95%) or matress in a huge room with other customers(5%). The anmas in Kangnam area even prepared canned beers and meals(ramen and bab(rice and side dishes). All these services are included in 180,000.

For miari, they lock the price at 70,000 for one fuck and if you pretend to have only 50,000 or 60,000 they will give you a cold back of them.

Even Koreans have to pay 70,000 and as far as I know no more foreigners at Miari because when Koreans see foreginers they think this place is history and never want to return.

Additonally, RLDs have 2 shift that normally 6:00~18:00 and 18:00 ~ 6:00 or 7:00 and if you go to late like 4:00am you can have a more relaxed session but that does not mean you will get more than you paid.

[New World Order]

Ho Man,

You mentioned that you were 'regular' to stay over night and sleep at one anma. Is over-night sleep-overs available at most anmas? I've been paying for Seoul hotels anyway, so why not get some good time and then fall asleep I figure. (I would go over now and ask, but I am outside Seoul right now.) Can you or one of you mongers tell me an experience of staying over-night at an anma, especially the protocol and cost in addition to the normal service? Are these clean? Much appreciated if you can reply to this post or PM me about this.

Also, if there is any anma that offers more than a single shot on girl's goal, time (over 1 hr with girl), or anything else unusal, please let me know. Or,let me know if there is any anmas charging less than the normal 180k W.

I am kind of tired of the pink room girls at RLDs now, and time is running out before I have to leave Korea. The reason why I'm getting bored.

Ok, so far I've been to Yongsan and Yong Deng Po RLD. Being Kyopo, I've been to only A-row girls. Except for my very first girl, bj's were all bb, and fs all covered. Except for one A-row girl who was over 30 and a notch-down in looks who was amazing, all these girls were pretty good, with some kissing, but hardly gfe. One of them actually said no kissing, no touching the tits, and only missionary (I became limp and she had to finish me with her hand). And, after 10-15 minutes of deed, they tell me that time is running out and to hurry up. Yongsan girls tend to be on the 10 minute side. Except for occasional super eye candy experience, the experience is getting redundant now. Oh, how excited I was when I got here few weeks ago.

So, I am little bored now having had about 9 sessions with Yongsan and Yong Deng Po girls in two weeks that I've been in Seoul so far. With 9 times, I don't have the deepest experience with RLD pink room actions but still able to say a few things. I've gone in mornings, evenings and middle of nights. Just as my impression, the best time probably is at 4 am, when customers are passed through, street is empty except for girls in business and girls too tired to not give a too much crap anymore (which can be bad or good for you) and not hurry you up. Also, Yongsan A-row non-evening girls are not so good, while Yong Deng Po non-evening girls (only A-row in Yong Deng Po... sorry) are always great. I tried to look for B-row action in Yongsan, so I can get some anal, bbbjcim, longer time, or ANYthing different from what I had - what I have heard on the board. However, every time I've been there, I can't see anybody on the side streets except for this strange girl in white who always has her face away from the street. But, then again, I always looked very quickly.

So, I am now going to try anmas, preferrably ones where I can stay over night in, because I have to pay for hotel while in Seoul anyway. I figure BBS are like pink rooms of fast sex without the selection of girls.

I think I will try out Jang An Dong area and report back.

I used to sleep at a massage parlor called Finkle. I do not know if this place still exists. It is located between the Hyundai Department Store in Samsung-Dong and the Renaissance Hotel.

This massage parlor is behind a Starbucks. Sorry but I do not remember the exact directions.

Business at this place was slow after 4am. So I would just take a 3 to 4 hour nap. I was not charged for taking a nap. But I would give a 10,000 won tip and say thank you to the mamasan.

The best times (in my opinion) to visit a RLD is 8pm. Because there are not many customers and the girls are fresh, clean and ready to work.

4am is the best time to get a good deal.

For example, at Miari, it is 70,000 won (if you pay by cash). But pretend that you only have 50,000. 9 out of 10 times, the mamasan and the girl will accept only 50,000. After all, it is time for them to close and call it a day. And you can take your time (take an extra 15 minutes or so) with the girl.

[New World Order]

You know why?

Because Korean people do not like to see foreigners at their venues no matter you are western or asian or black person. This is because of the fear at ADIS. However, I took my western friends and asian friends to ANMA many times and always accepted. I think this is because I am a Korean and I can push them to accept my firend as a guest by offering little more money depending on the situation.

Regarding RLD crackdown, now the government is loosing its tension and people have started to go to RLD, ANMAs, barber shops, etc and no more worries. you can go there and fuck them without any problems because the meat shops still open are have informers or connection with jurisdiction or police.

You still can find many freelancers at Itaewon or many other places where foreigners gather. I spend my x-mas eve of 2005 at Itaewon and saw many korean free lancers looking for customers. many of them were pretty and sold over 8 out of 10.

Anyway, members of this forum do not have a roundtable? It would be of great fun if we are on round table and share our experience like other forums. lol.

Very true.

For foreigners, it is best to go to the RLD, massage parlor, or barbershop with a Korean friend.

When I go to 588, Miari Texas, a massage parlor or barbershop, I bring my foreign friends along. And I would kindly tell the mamasans to accept my friends. And they will (especially is I am their loyal customer).

There is a massage parlor in southern Seoul (right next to the Renaissance Hotel) called Zeus. This place accepts foreigners. The price is 180,000 won for two hours of fun. One hour of a massage from a blind man or lady. And one hour of shower and fuck. Foreigners also pay the same local rate (180,000). I'm sorry but I do not have their phone number.

The policemen at the red light districts are nothing but show. It's just a stupid P.R. stunt. Just do your thing (fuck the girl) and leave quietly, then you will be fine. Even if you make eye contact with the police, just smile, bow your head a bit, and leave.

As for freelancers, if you pick them up, please take care of your personal belongings. Either put them in a safe or zip your pockets. And wear a condom. These freelancers are not as clean as the *****s. Because the *****s get their regular AIDS and STD checkup once a week.

[Pussy_Dog]

Ho Man,

You mentioned that you were 'regular' to stay over night and sleep at one anma. Is over-night sleep-overs available at most anmas? I've been paying for Seoul hotels anyway, so why not get some good time and then fall asleep I figure. (I would go over now and ask, but I am outside Seoul right now.) Can you or one of you mongers tell me an experience of staying over-night at an anma, especially the protocol and cost in addition to the normal service? Are these clean? Much appreciated if you can reply to this post or PM me about this.

Also, if there is any anma that offers more than a single shot on girl's goal, time (over 1 hr with girl), or anything else unusal, please let me know. Or,let me know if there is any anmas charging less than the normal 180k W.

I am kind of tired of the pink room girls at RLDs now, and time is running out before I have to leave Korea. The reason why I'm getting bored.

Ok, so far I've been to Yongsan and Yong Deng Po RLD. Being Kyopo, I've been to only A-row girls. Except for my very first girl, bj's were all bb, and fs all covered. Except for one A-row girl who was over 30 and a notch-down in looks who was amazing, all these girls were pretty good, with some kissing, but hardly gfe. One of them actually said no kissing, no touching the tits, and only missionary (I became limp and she had to finish me with her hand). And, after 10-15 minutes of deed, they tell me that time is running out and to hurry up. Yongsan girls tend to be on the 10 minute side. Except for occasional super eye candy experience, the experience is getting redundant now. Oh, how excited I was when I got here few weeks ago.

So, I am little bored now having had about 9 sessions with Yongsan and Yong Deng Po girls in two weeks that I've been in Seoul so far. With 9 times, I don't have the deepest experience with RLD pink room actions but still able to say a few things. I've gone in mornings, evenings and middle of nights. Just as my impression, the best time probably is at 4 am, when customers are passed through, street is empty except for girls in business and girls too tired to not give a too much crap anymore (which can be bad or good for you) and not hurry you up. Also, Yongsan A-row non-evening girls are not so good, while Yong Deng Po non-evening girls (only A-row in Yong Deng Po... sorry) are always great. I tried to look for B-row action in Yongsan, so I can get some anal, bbbjcim, longer time, or ANYthing different from what I had - what I have heard on the board. However, every time I've been there, I can't see anybody on the side streets except for this strange girl in white who always has her face away from the street. But, then again, I always looked very quickly.

So, I am now going to try anmas, preferrably ones where I can stay over night in, because I have to pay for hotel while in Seoul anyway. I figure BBS are like pink rooms of fast sex without the selection of girls.

I think I will try out Jang An Dong area and report back.

[Pussy_Dog]

Around the red light districts, you may see a few guys walk up to you and tell you if they can show you around. Say no!

A foreign friend of mine said yes and these two guys drove him to a nearby motel and promised him a cute girl for half the price.

He paid for the motel (20,000 won) and the guys never showed up.

Also, if you walk into a red light district, zip your pockets. Some mamasans will try and take your wallet.

I had some guy offering russian girls, karaoke room girls who would spend the night at my motel, or anma experience. After talking about it at great length, he convinced me on the karaoke girls idea at 170k W. However, he wanted me to get in his car because it's supposedly not walking distance, and I said no way for safety reasons.

Later I talked to desk clerk at my motel, and he told me those karaoke places are drinking places. And, they will milk you for your money while you are getting slammed by alcohol. And, they might charge you funny on your credit card at end.

Earlier somebody was inquiring about karaoke sex places that he heard about. I am not sure if he meant these kinds. And, maybe in some places, girls actually give it up right there by the table like in Japan's pink salons or in a side room. But, being here alone in Seoul, I wouldn't want to chance it. Kyopo or no Kyopo. Plus, my Korean is not that strong.

[Cocoroso]

You know why?

Because Korean people do not like to see foreigners at their venues no matter you are western or asian or black person. This is because of the fear at ADIS. However, I took my western friends and asian friends to ANMA many times and always accepted. I think this is because I am a Korean and I can push them to accept my firend as a guest by offering little more money depending on the situation.

Regarding RLD crackdown, now the government is loosing its tension and people have started to go to RLD, ANMAs, barber shops, etc and no more worries. you can go there and fuck them without any problems because the meat shops still open are have informers or connection with jurisdiction or police.

You still can find many freelancers at Itaewon or many other places where foreigners gather. I spend my x-mas eve of 2005 at Itaewon and saw many korean free lancers looking for customers. many of them were pretty and sold over 8 out of 10.

Anyway, members of this forum do not have a roundtable? It would be of great fun if we are on round table and share our experience like other forums. lol.

[Ho Man]

Friends is now totally fucked, as is Orange, in Hakdong.

I don't actually believe that the owner DOES want foreigners, as Gonad states. I have known him a long time and, in the past, he would have "solved the problem" by now. These days, I fear, he feels it's just not worth the hassle. I mean, there are 101 ways he COULD be creative, in his thinking that would enable foreign custom, without threatening his Korean base - don't expect it to happen in my lifetime, though. The truth is, he is sick of the whole massage business.

I have it on first hand authority that he now runs a service station (gas station and auto repairs) near Ilsan.

I asked the guy at Orange (Hakdong) if any of the places nearby would take care of foreigners. He rang the owner of Tiffany, who said "yes" - but since it was New Year's Eve, it was closed. To find Tiffany, you need to know where "Neighbour" is. Neighbour is the former BVLGARI STRESS CLINIC, around the corner from Cha Hospital, 10 minutes walk from Yeoksam Station (Exit 7). Incidentally, I was the first foreign customer to visit Bvlgari, when it opened in late 2003. I was regular enough to sleep over on weekends - and got to fuck a girl from there a few times, when she was off duty. I called the other day and, even though they remembered me, it was the same story. "Sorry - no foreigners." I'm sure that only applies to white and black foreigners and, that if you look like a Korean, you should be fine.

Anyway, Tiffany is directly across the road from there. I believe it is the same road as the fancy hotels, just a little further down, past the lights.

Don't know when I'll be there again, so if anyone DOES manage to visit, please report.

Have not ventured out to BLUE near Hwagok as I can't remember which bus gets me near there from Seoul. Maybe I have saved time and money if, indeed, it turns out to be as big a dud as Friends, Orange and Neighbour.

Sam-

I may be inclined to agree with that assessment and I may be inclined to disagree too. The other day, in a drunken state I decided to spoil myself to a nice massage and screw at a local Ahn Ma in Yeoksam, called Paradise. The price was 200,000 won. This was a good deal more than the 160,000 I was quoted a year ago. Nevertheless I went to the room, met a girl with no strengths or weaknesses in the looks department and got a rushed oil rub and fuck. Half way through I was told to hurry up. That got me a little mad and I started fucking her twice as hard and took my good time to bust that nut. After, I asked them what happened to the whole slow seduction of it, plus I remembered that there should've been a blind massage prelude. They said it was just a service. Hmph. What a waste, I thought as I left. On my way home I calculated and re-calculated just how many Thai hookers I could've bought that though uglier would have left me warm and fuzzy afterward.

On the other hand I can think back to a visit I made to Paradise in Jang An Dong which blew my mind, about 9 months ago. It was unrushed and the girl was mega hot.

So use caution. The word from my Korean friend is that there is a place called Temple around Jang An Dong and it's the bomb. I'm not sure of the foreigner status of the place, but if you can get a service there you will have every need catered to. But personally I think that a nice Thai girl is both friendlier and much better in bed. In fact, I'm yet to meet any Korean girl who is better in bed than your average Thai.

Someone asked earlier about Friends. Don't bother. It's not that the owner doesn't like foreigners or doesn't want them. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's just that some fool on the Korean WSG has made trouble for his shop. Who knew that handjobs carried risk from dirty foreigners eh? Maybe some eraser dick is scared the girls will laugh when he whips it out after the comparison. Anyway, there's nothing special there these days so you're not really missing out on anything.

It seems that there's fun to be had everywhere but Korea these days...

[Farmer Joe]

Went back to Seoul recently after some time and wanted to check out a nice Anma place I'd been to before, two houses up from the Novotel Kangnam (which in turn is next to the Ritz). Had been there before, even post-crackdown, but was told 'No Foreigners' this time.

Went diagonally across the road, slightly downhill, there's another Anma called 'King's Anma'. Got the service there, for the usual price.

Has anyone had a similar experience? I've never been turned away by an Anma before, are some just following the RLD policy of 'No foreigners for A-Row girls'?

[Korvet]

There is an abundance of Filipina flesh in Osan, Pyongtaek, Uijongbu, and Tonducheon. But I was wondering. Has anyone found a reliable source of Filipina providers in Seoul?

I know they work in a lot of the higher-end room salons, but $1000 a pop for chep beer, squid, and the "possibility" of something afterward isn't appealing. On the other hand, it would be good to not have to drive an hour to try a non-Korean flavor.

[Korvet]

Good comments on the Military Police checks on Hooker Hill. They can be a pain-in-the-ass, although it's mainly just an inconvenience if you're a civilian.

If the Hill is still your preference. And despite everything, it still has its gems and a bargin or two. You can avoid the military by going before 9PM and after 1AM. The patrols officially start at 7PM, but the guys doing them don't make it to the Hill until later. They officially stop 1 hour after curfew (usually 1AM), but by 1: 00-1: 30AM, most of the guys doing the patrols are just looking to get out of there as soon as possible. Especially when it's cold.

Many of the clubs don't bring their "A" girls on until after 10PM, so you aren't missing much during "Primetime" anyway. For day time action you can hit the Royal/VIP, Fantasy (with the ever popular Miya), and a few non-Hill clubs like Nymph and the Cabin. Most are open between 2-4PM, and Miya is usually on the job by 1PM.

This is great advice, bet everyone thats been busted since the crackdown wished they were given and heeded this advice.


Not true, this area is heavily patrolled by the military guard dogs and Korean police are always out there although not as much as before. People do get popped on the hill. Even if you are not military, the idea that you have to stop and show ID to prove who you are makes this environment unattractive to monger in. This place is so bad that the GIs have given up on it and move on to other areas. The best time to visit it is during the day, but don't expect to get much here but dogs, it aint nothing like it once was. Anmas are expensive but probably one of the best bet in town. Interesting to see what will happen in 2007, the scheduled shutdown of the RLDs in Korea.

[Dxb Cat]

Thanks for the info Sukhumvit Sam.

I guess from your handle you're more used to the LOS scene. Me too!!

I found both Yongsan and Hooker Hill in my first week!! Quite by accident of course ;-) I went shopping at the E-Mart at Yongsan and fell over the RLD there. Had a walk up and down and there was very few girls.

I'd also been warned about HH so only had a few beers and a rekkie.

If those plces are the 'best' Seoul has to offer I'd better stick to the missus.

[Timeoff]

Timeoff, are you Asian, or can any foreignor hit up this place? How much did you pay for the 5 hours? I'm a real big fan of the extended ***** experience.

Thanks for the post.

Yes, I'm Asian. If you don't speak the language it would be tough to build a rapport, that is if your ultimate goal is to take the girl out of the place. The deal was all nighter for 500K won. I could have stayed longer, but I left early.