Seoul

[Cant Sleep]

Man, I wondered around for like 2 hours looking for COOL. I got to Gangnam station exit #2, walked until I found the Prudential building, turned left, walked straight. No luck, never found it. Too bad I leave Korea tomorrow. The place sounds pretty good.

Circle around the Prudential building and you should be able to see COOL sign.

[Josh Doe]

Man, I wondered around for like 2 hours looking for COOL. I got to Gangnam station exit #2, walked until I found the Prudential building, turned left, walked straight. No luck, never found it. Too bad I leave Korea tomorrow. The place sounds pretty good.

[Sauro07]

Just had a visit from JinHae from the "best massage" service. They are in Herald quoting 100K for housecall, phonecall reveals 150k for full service. I'll put the phone number under classifieds since I believe I'm not supposed to put it here.

JinHae was a dance student, 24yo and all of 40kg. Not a stunner, but very sweet and eager to please. By the time she was done with the actual massage, I couldn't wait to play with the goods. Perfect size B's and her pussy got really wet when I played with her clit. On to some CBJ (normally a big no-no for me), but in this case it just meant that we skipped right past that to CG, missionary and doggy. All in all, a VERY nice experience at half the going rate, it seems.

We got along well, so YMMV, but she ranked high in my book.

Hey cap, was it GFE? DFK and so on?

Tks for the report!

Cheers,

Sauro07

[Sauro07]

1. Sports massage ( the owner is guy, he always answers the phone) His job is a fortune teller, and he does this massage ad as a part time.

He charges 200,000 for one and a half hour, but the girls just leave in an hour.

2. Best massage ( the booker- I think she is the owner- is a woman who is around 40 somthing, she had worked for the Sports massage for a year and left him, started her business)

She charged 100,000 won for one and a half hour - for everything, whatever you call it, GFE or something- and now she charges 150,000 won, because her rivals were not happy with her, so they sent so many shit SMS to her phones. I think she still works sometimes but normally she sends her girls.

4. Posh massage

The girl who answers the phone says she sends a girl, but this is independent also, whenever I call, always same girl comes by, I am sure with her voice on the phone.

For no. 1 (Sports) and 2 (Best), the prices (200k and 150k) are for FS, right? Or any trouble negotiating later on?

For no. 4 (Posh), same rule applies? FS for how much, any idea?

Cheers,

Sauro07

[Small Dick]

had a incall from best massga. full service is 150,0000 as already stated.

this time it was sing han, about 5'5, a cup, long black hair.

face: 6
body: 8 , great nipples
massage: 8
service: 5

service was very by the book, no daty, dfk or touching down their. it was like she was going through a script. massage, on with johnny then jump on top, oooh you so big, it hurts. usual stuff.

recomend: no

hooker hill bar, right side of debutante. sorry can't remember the name. girls name was miso.

no daty, but lots of dfk, covered blow job, two times sex, 150, 0000. she wanted more but didn't want the price she was giving, bought a beer and a girlie drink for her before negotiating price. nice face, see cup, good body bot the super thin, but can't be described as chunky, again, huge nipples, wow!

walked passed transrose and just wanted a peek in but the "girl" outside said it was only a korean bar. then got sworn at!

vip lounge. avoid tia. was having a chat with her and she admitted to me that she goes back with guys but doesn't have sex with them! she said she tries and avoids it as much as she can. wonder why she is in hooker hill in the first place! ?

small dick

inteprid reporter for the mongering community.

[Sauro07]

FYI, Capital Hotel Sports Massage is still on, quite expensive (KRW 160k).
Girl was a hottie, slim, tanned, face 7.

Gave a shower, go to bed, reasonable massage on the back with hands and feet, then body slide with oil, to the point that you get hard.

Starts HJ, lets you touch, tongue only on body. But finger can travel inside...
CBJ, removes cap, finish it.

She is nice, but no GFE. Tried to be, but kiss is forbidden (due to my 1st time?). Small talk, was kind, but rushed a bit. Could try to enjoy more.

Cheers,

Sauro07

[John08]

There are plenty of Anmas with dual girl service for the extra $ of course... And I highly doubt any foreigners that arent asian and cant speak korean can get this easily... obviously there are some that still can. As for the service.. its really a hit and miss between girls your with (some will let you do things that others wont but all in all you can generally get what you want if you know how to talk properly... Never heard of a duo where they both didnt go down on you at the same time or let you rotate fucking them (which is hassles because you switch condoms each time but worth it)

[La Choism]

6. noh's massage

they charge 100,000 for hj, you can't expect more , they don't do that.

7. therapeutic massage,

she is jung-hee, and she had worked for hue massage before, she said she still misses that time, their management was good as she said. her current business is getting slower.

8. google (the girls are expensive, charge 250 to 400 usd)

you go to google and hit , massage or escort in seoul-, you can find jinagina, yumi, sky, and the other girls. i think jinagina is a big agency, i emailed, and i gave it up, because they charge 400 and too much security, even they check my work background, they say they are going to call my office to check on, i can't stand their interrupting my privacy, if i am supposed to meet the most beautiful woman in the world, i can stand it, but i don't think they have miss universe or miss korea, so i would say,, no way.

sky and yena and other girl didn't email me,- maybe i sounded suspicious?- yumi emailed me and we met, she told me about her scary experience, when she put her ad on there, one of her rivals was not happy- she still thinks it's her rival-, somebody emailed her asking to remove her ad , that person said he is the police and he said he knows yumi's ip address and real korean name, first time she thought it might be the police, but was not sure, and contacted her friend of friend who doesn't know she works like this, and asked him about how the police work on internet site, he said they don't warn people, just brake into if they have evidence, but yumi's ad doesn't say nothing, money is not exchanged, no credit cards- hue got busted because of this problem-so she emailed the moderator of that site, the moderator chased his email address and found out he lives in new york, kind of korean american, the moderator relief her, it's nothing, but it's not enough for her, she started her revenge-???-, emailed him, and said she is going to call the real police and going to ask them which one is criminal, representing himself as the police or putting up ad just for fun. he or she who emailed her paid for that.

9. they come to your place -i mean , to your house, even if you are not a hotel guest- except yumi, and noh, the other one who has her ad in korea times, i forgot the title.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

[Cant Sleep]

I went to COOL twice during my visit in Korea. It is one of the best experience I had in Korea. English is still a challenge, but is ok. The girls are very pretty and young. I honestly believe them to be simply university student just want to make a few bucks without getting down. Both times, the girls are very friendly and kind. As previous report, they gave a so-so massage. But the kissing, touching and HJ are great. They also let you play with their body (except under there). Both time, there are a bit of GFE experience too. They keep looking at me smiling looking for approval.

If you are looking for a quick release with young pretty Korean girls for only 60, 000 won, COOL is the best.

Can't Sleep

[Waykook Saram]

Hi monger team.

Here is my analysis, success prediction and advise about and around freebees:

Brain666

About 70% of my hobbies is freebies and Brain666 report is right on the money. It helps greatly if you learn some Korean. It will make them comfortable and then they will want to practice their English. Just basic skills will get you into allot of panties.

I have had good success at the booking clubs... but .... you need to go with friends and preferable at least one of them should be Korean. If you are foriegner you need to get a private room. Be prepared to spend some money.

You likely will not score the first night but you will collect allot of numbers from horney houswives looking for a bf. Most of them can read English so start sending them the SMS the next day. After two to three dates just take them by a love hotel and tell you are tired and you should both rest a while. Once in the room she will turn into a tigress.

Happy Hunting

[Yaeis]

Hi all,

I've been away from Seoul for some time and I'm having a hell of a hard time accessing this site and other sex related sites in general. I get this completely useless splash page in Korean! Anyone has a translation and of course a checklist of actions to take to be free again?

We are in South Korea, right?

LOL (and appreciate the help)

[blue]==============================================

Greetings Yaeis,

1. You should have read up on this subject on the forum BEFORE you made your trip, because there's a detailed article on the subject right on the Forum's Front Page.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...oxyservers.php

2. Here's a partial reprint of the article I keep on another website.

http://www.argentinaconexion.com/proxyservers.html

3. Also, have you tried using this site?

http://www.attackcensorship.com/attack-censorship.html

4. And finally, did you do a google search for proxy servers?

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...=proxy+servers

Thanks,

[La Choism]

1. Sports massage ( the owner is guy, he always answers the phone) His job is a fortune teller, and he does this massage ad as a part time.

He charges 200,000 for one and a half hour, but the girls just leave in an hour.

2. Best massage ( the booker- I think she is the owner- is a woman who is around 40 somthing, she had worked for the Sports massage for a year and left him, started her business)

She charged 100,000 won for one and a half hour - for everything, whatever you call it, GFE or something- and now she charges 150,000 won, because her rivals were not happy with her, so they sent so many shit SMS to her phones. I think she still works sometimes but normally she sends her girls.

3. First class

She is independent, and chubby.

4. Posh massage

The girl who answers the phone says she sends a girl, but this is independent also, whenever I call, always same girl comes by, I am sure with her voice on the phone.

5. Ideal companion.

She is Yumi, and independent , also she used to work for the Sports massage, and she said she was not happy with her boss, even during session, he kept calling to move to other place, that's really not good, good for her to start her own business. and now she charges 300,000 won, she said she has also her ad in Internet, it really works as she said. She is nice if you are nice, but if you play games, she is really,, really.

6. Hue massage ( it's gone)

They got busted last year, not because of newpaper ads, but because of their web site ads, they accepted credit card, the police realized they do somthing illegal, and broke into their house. so it's not a good idea to use your credit card in those places.
Maybe next time, I will report more.

[Small Dick]

Hi to all fellow mongers,

I will be in Seoul from Tuesday, staying at the Itaewon Hotel for 8 days. Saturday is booked but if anyone would like to share a couple of beers and talk about mongering / do some please P.M me as I've gone and got myself a subscription to this great board.

Thanks, and hope to hear from my fellow mongerers

Small Dick

(and yes a full report will be forthcoming)

[Brain666]

Hi monger team.

You may have noticed that recently my contribution to the South Korean Board was lacking compared to last year.

The reason is that my active mongering was limited to the occasional visit to Miari (my favourite RLD), which I didn’t bother with ever repeating stories, while in the last half year I was more involved in the freebee activities.

Here is my analysis, success prediction and advise about and around freebees:

Generally for a westerner there is not necessarily the need for P4P activities in Korea. There are plenty of pussy around you can get depending on your material status, the age, your looks and especially your attitude.

However it is clearly nothing you can count on necessarily and I will never recommend this to a short time visitors only 1 or 2 weeks in town. Those better rely on the p4p in form of RLD Anma or barbershop, or better combine their trip with a short stop over to Thailand when coming here.
The reason I say this is that the freebee isn’t something you find in hordes in the bars waiting for the guys showing up and then go into the pillows immediately. As maybe generally around the world and different from P4P you have to qualify first before you can score. On the other hand there are a lot of females potentially open for adventure, fun, boyfriend, love affair etc. It is more the matter to match and a huge portion of just luck or to be at the right time on the right spot.

Freebee hunting grounds:

I think the best promising hunting ground is Itaewon and the normal bars, but also the disco’s etc. My favoiurite’s are Gecko’s and Helios
There are a lot Korean females in Itaewon, but also the expat family members, many Thai and Philippinas (many have a daytime job as housemaid), Brazilians, GUS females etc.. The advantage in Itaewon is that most of the Koreans going there are able to speak enough English to communicate, so that Language isn’t Limiting factor. Generally I would say that all the females coming as single or in groups of 2-6 are somehow open to be approached. In the same way the guys are more or less looking for pussy. If I say generally open I don’t say that they will leave for sure with a guy for a one-night stand. That is wrong assumption. I mean they are open for discussion and as we are in real world you qualify and chemistry matches.

How far your mileage goes is rather unpredictable, because nobody (female and male) of course admits looking for the other gender. But what can be seen is, that the females are rather open to dance and communicate to almost everybody, not only to potential target.

Now what is your chance?
If you are young, attractive and even charming, looking like famous movie stars you don’t need to hunt. You will be hunted. You many not need any advise here anyhow.
Lets assume that this description doesn’t apply for many contributors of this board, including myself, I want to start with some of my observation (and some of them are rather common sense and nothing spectacular) about the chance to score a Freebee.

Your Age/ age difference:

Of course younger increase your chance, but Korean female are also accepting significant age difference if you compensate with other convincing attributes. So an age difference of lets say 20 Years is not necessarily a no go, 15 years doesn’t matter that much, and until 10-12 years absolute no issue. The more you are around the 20 years difference the more of course you must compensate with your attitude.

Her Age:

The best success you may reach with Korean female in the Age of 30-40. Even close to 40, Korean female in my view often look younger then the same aged western woman. Further figures are much less out of shape and average is clearly slimmer. I had a 38-Year-old Freebee with a body looking like 20 and a face like 28. Further in this age 1) the women already had some experience, 2) is divorced 3) is looking for some Love affair outside her marriage, 4) is hungry for sex as she doesn’t find it in her daily long office working hours. – Just to mention some.
Further if she is a divorcee or married or had some partners there is a huge chance that she has not experienced a great satisfying sex life, which allows you to qualify for long term if you act correctly (see later)

The girls around 20-25 are mainly looking for boyfriends and potential long term partner as a primary target and are more age sensitive, which is for Freebee success less a chance. Of course exceptions always ‘walk around’.

From about 27-28 it changes rise towards the 30-40 years groups.

Above 40: can be all variants but they are not necessarily your first choice target. (But an above 40 still can look like a 32 western woman.
So if I would find out that my almost scored new freebee is finally 43 while I would have thought she is around 35, I will not stop the session as she is shaped pretty well then. But I don’t have experience with above 40 freebees yet.

Martial status:

In any ‘opening’ discussion with a newly potential freebee candidate, the first questions to you as a foreigner will be around ‘what you are doing here’. Then if you are living here long or short time and in case you are resident soon they will ask if you are here with your family. This unveils quickly if you are married or not, if not directly asked.

To be clear: If you are married your potential candidates for the Freebee drops by 80% unfortunately, as all Freebees have some kind of long term relation in mind or in hope.
Now you could hide the fact e.g. if you are a resident here and your family isn’t always with you. I strongly advise not to be short sighted, aiming for short success and hide the fact. You will be in trouble later.
I never hide that I am married, even if this drops my potential targets drastically. But you still have the P4P option as a backup. So don’t lie in this point.

Resident or Visitor:

If you are visitor your chance is pretty lower, then if you are resident.
Residents clearly have better chances.

Approaching tactics:

(This assumes that you are in an entertainment pub where as well some food drinks are offered and some dancing is possible.).
First a ground rule that you should not forget and always keep in mind: At the very end you don’t select the girl, the girl will select you and decide solely what she allows you to do. Your mission is simply to qualify in the most charming way, but adjusted to your target.

Approaching a potential freebee is basically nothing else then you may have practiced in your life by contact with a woman. Several strategies may apply and lead you to your target. If you are to shy in usual life it may not work out here also.
This is how it works for me mostly and its probably a classic way many have done similar, but it works usually fine for me:
You place yourself near the girl you see as a potential target, however not directly approaching her (not staering), more showing ‘body attitude’ that you are on the way to order a drink. If there is a drink menu card on the table near your target then you may ask her for assistance to hand it over to you. Most of the girls don’t come alone, they are minimum two and probably up to 4 or 5 in a group. So some other member may be fine too for this. Approaching a group that way is probably even better as it contacts 2-5 at once.
Then check the menu and if some girl has something different then beer, ask about her drink (what drink, taste, if she recommend etc.). Take you selection and order. A cocktail is better then a beer, as it opens another reason for them to ask you later about it.
You made ground opening and in the following you may ask more questions (how do you like here, your first time, do you know similar places you can recommend etc.). They will most probably return questions and for sure will ask you what you are doing in this country, including the famous question about your family.

As you have broken the ice and are in communication now, you may continue talking, ask for dancing etc.
But don’t bee too pushy and don’t show yet obviously you are approaching her. It still should be a funny talk based conversation, best combined with some lough. You may add some funny stories about you, best where you felt agonizing, but can laugh about yourself now.
This brings you sympathy. The next dance you may be able to come a bit closer.

From this point its impossible to give further advise as YMMV and it is so situation dependent that general rules don’t exist. The more you are experienced in when it is the right time to move to next step, the better you will do.
However still be patient. Less push is better.

Success prediction:

The bad news is that it is almost impossible to predict your success until she is sitting in the taxi with you to continue the night at your or her place. (it may be mostly your place).

Even if I think I am rather good in prediction, I had situations where an almost scored target ‘escaped’ within 5 minutes due to some sudden event (such as a wrong phone call in a wrong minute). This is bad, but I gave up to be angry about it, and in the meantime I am relaxed and until they are not naked under my pillows I will not believe on success anymore. I would be even generous and wouldn’t push when she even decides different after she has already entered my apartment. Yes I can keep smart even with the dick already prepared.

Unpredictable also creates the opposite. Targets where inward I gave up already to score suddenly are successful and you wonder what changed her mind suddenly.

Be relaxed is the message. I expect nothing, but it can be everything.


No No No’s:

Some advise (probably also common sense):
Woman won’t like to be approached obviously. So forget to come up with early suggestions to leave.
Don’t start kissing her after only 30 min. talk. You may not even kiss her before she is in the taxi with you back home. I witnessed several guys having themselves not under control and acting rather stupid in the ‘when to kiss Prediction’.

Never target too drunk Korean girls. Some alcohol creates amore ‘open minded’ atmosphere clearly, but a completely drunk Korean girl can be dangerous.
It may look easy to approach, but be aware that a completely drunk Korean girl tends to change her mind in 2 min cycles and can turn rather aggressive within just a few minutes if suddenly ‘triggered’ by some simple issue. They are uncontrollable then and you may not be able to manage. Don’t want to happen something like this in my apartment.

Maintain a Freebee:

When once scored the first time it is all in your hands for a repeat or not.
It is all about how you deal in bed.

Again and this is my advise here, I am rather successful in stepping back the first night and put the girls satisfaction in the middle of action.

Yes I am a nice guy and I know that as a married man, scoring is much more difficult for me (see 80% drop in chance), so maintain for repeat is primarily the goal.
Overall I can say that once in my hands and under the pillow, they won’t leave any more.

With Korean girls it is rather simple: You can assume that the divorced and ‘adventurous’ married women, as well as the younger girls may not have yet had an exciting pleasurable sex life. My observation is that the Korean guys don’t know or utilize the potential ‘snoozing’ in their woman (the Korean readers of this board may be an exception – so no generalization, but observation).
You can’t believe it, but not many girls got a DATY experience yet and if, it was a 10 second type one and never one with efforts to let them come.
They like to be ‘body eaten’ all over and can enjoy this forever.
Most did sex only in dark and under the pillow. I unveil the sex tiger from them.

So once experienced ‘my way of doing’, I usually get a long term freebee.

Get rid of the Freebee:

As I mentioned above the freebee once I scored her tends to stay and repeat. However this is in conflict with my spouse schedule showing up here each 3-4 months for about 4-6 weeks.
That is why I am always clear upfront that I am married and I rather step back or rely on P4P only before being in trouble and it took me a long time to take the remaining risk of ‘allowing myself to have a freebee’ from time to time.

The remaining risk is that under my ‘magic hands’ it is almost unavoidable the freebee develops feelings over time. They never had a great sex-life yet and having probably the first time an ok guy with different behave then a Korean average guy, creates wishes in them to maintain it or get them something like this to marry.

So far all freebees gave up with me after some time saying, if she doesn’t step back from me yet, she may never be able to find an appropriate boyfriend and husband.

This is how it ended so far with all freebees and probably I was lucky. It could bet quite nasty in case the freebee wants to compete with the spouse etc.
So be careful here guys. This is one of the reasons why I am still in the P4P scene and may not take necessarily any chance for a freebee unless they went through some ‘potential stress screening’.

Freebee Free?

As always and probably common sense: A freebee is never free. The only thing free is the sex itself. But until it comes to that and also during maintaining the freebee of course you will invite her for some diners, night outs etc. where you usually pay for meal, drinks etc.. My freebee costs have been limited to this kind of entertainment and I think this is unavoidable, but I have never been requested or created situations where we went for joint shopping etc. which may lead you to some gift expectation. However I have some friends with freebees who are definitely paying not all, but some clothes, shoes, rings etc. Their costs are close or above P4P costs.
They can’t give up, as a next freebee would take a lot of efforts first, as I could do in similar situation and that’s why they are kind of trapped.

So my last advise is: Better give up the freebee and return to P4P before accustomed to the freebee being around to much.

Regards

Brain666

[Paniki]

Itaewon can be very cheap. I have been a repeat customer at Rosie's in the past (right next to debut). Two very nice girls were there before, not sure about now. One of them was a bit GFE. Both I could get BBJ for 30-50k, once had them both taking turns for 80k. The hill has a lot of small couches/booths so I don't usually go for FS, it's just not comfortable.

And loyalty gets you lower prices, worked for me anyway. My old haunts were the Boston and ABC clubs. Are they still around? I might be back in Seoul April '08, so I 'll be providing some intel for the board.

Three years in Korea and I find the site as I'm leaving, figures! I use to walk right by the Yongsan RDL on a regular basis, the one in Suwon too. After RTFF, when I get back I'll be posting a bit.