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[Ho Man]

HAVANA CLUB

A new Gentlemen's Club has just opened its doors in Yeungdungpo. Anyone familiar with Friends, in Sangdo, will know the score.

Essentially, these places are NOT like barbershops or red light places. They are EXCELLENT venues to relax for an hour or so, whilst receiving a good massage from a young lady (always in her 20s) with a complimentary HJ to finish...

Havana can be found by exiting Yeungdungpo Station. With Lotte Department Store to your back, cross the main street (either via the underpass or at the nearest crosswalk), Head RIGHT, up the street and keep walking for about 4 or 5 minutes, until you are about to reach a bridge. At this point, the road "hairpins", so that, by following it around, you will be heading back in the general direction of the station - but one street further back.

About 20 or 30 metres along this road, you will see the sign "HAVANA" (yellow writing on a navy background). The building is old - but there is no need to be put off. Climb the stairs until you reach Level 3. Enter.

I was taken to a room and quickly stripped down to a pair of white shorts given to me. I laid on the massage table and waited a few minutes until the girl arrived with a bowl of warm water and some towels. She washed and dried my feet and told me to lie down. She took away the bowl and returned, moments later, with a smaller bowl filled with hot towels. She wiped away my perspiration (it was hot, that day). She then gave me what I describe as an excellent massage, which really relaxed me.

After 40 minutes had passed, she asked me if I wanted "special" massage. The lights went down and, after some tickling and stroking, down came the shorts. She proceeded to give me an excellent, UNHURRIED, HJ, which I enjoyed immensely.

All up, the price was 60,000 Won, well worth the time I had (which ran to over an hour). Furthermore, I spoke to the owner and he has agreed that he will soon introduce a "mileage card" along the lines of many hair shops. Every time you visit, your card will be stamped and every 9th or 10th service will be FREE (the best price of all). The cards are not far away, so, if you visit before they arrive, just tell the desk manager to remember you, so that when you get your card it can be "backstamped".

I enjoyed this place more than "In & Out", which calls time at 45 minutes. At Havana, an hour means an hour - except when they are not busy - in which case an hour can mean as much as 70 to 75 minutes.

I know there are those amongst you who don't always go in for the "wham bam" experience of the red light areas, the meaningless manipulations of the juicy girls on Hooker Hill, or the substandard routines of many of the BBS places.

For those on a budget with more than an hour to spare and the mood for relaxation, this can't be beat.

I will be interested to hear from any of you who visit HAVANA...

Happy times

[Byung]

Mookman,

Put up pics? That would shut up the critics? I thought I was just being criticized for paying too much. I don't see what a picture would do. Then again, maybe I missed something in the forum.

Yes, Korean girls are against nude pics. It's just too weird for them. That is why I have never asked. #1 because I had no interest in having nude pics. #2 because they are not interested. However, I do have a story to tell:

As far as chicks coming over to my house, it's only happened twice. First time was a while back. She doesn't really count though because I was dating her (as I mentioned in a post maybe a few months back). The second time was about a week ago, with my most recent all-nighter. The thought of taking her picture never crossed my mind.

Also, with the girl I used to date (who is/was a Miari girl), I never asked to take nude pics of her. However, she did ask me if I would take a picture with her. So we went to one of those photo places where they take your picture with some fruity background. We took a few of those together. I can't put them up here because that would be in bad taste.

As for other pictures, I did have a digital camera, but I never used it, and to this day I still don't use it. I've taken a total of maybe 50 pictures total with it, most of it being from when I visited Japan.

So, if I ever get the desire for nude pics, I will ask a girl who comes over to pose nude for me. However, I won't do it just because people don't believe my stories. You can choose to believe me or not believe me. My stories are true, and based on my own PERSONAL experiences.

I've shown around *one* WSG Forum member before. I took him to 588 and Miari. Foreigner, and I got him a chick at 588 as well as Miari. He paid standard 60,000won at 588. At Miari, I got him a 10,000won discount (normally 70K), so he paid 60,000won there. In addition, I think he'll remember that I was well known in the areas, that I knew a lot of girls in 588, as well as a few madame's in Miari. I doubt he'll see this, but if he does, I think he can confirm what I've said.

[Mookman]

As someone who has been around here for a bit, let's not argue the merits of how much a girl should cost. I can verify that Byung's prices for an all nighter are correct and on par with what I have been quoted, so leave the guy alone if he wants to pay it.

Now I take the opposite side:

Byung, let me say now that your posts lately have been one of the better ones but as they say "show us the money". I myself go to Korea once in awhile but my job and my preferences take me to the Philippines, in the PI section I have posted pics of the girls I have met. I know that Korean girls are totally against taking nude pics because they all know about internet porn being that korea is so high-tech. But even the girls in the PI are like that and I have taken their pictures with their faces covered. So I say to you "hyung" show us the money, shut up the critics and take a picture. Especially, if you have taken them to your house, you can convince the girl to take a couple of head covered shots at the least. Besides the photo section of Korea has been dead for awhile and need some fresh blood. So show up the critics, if you dare or care or can.

Mook

[Be Cool]

To add to the report of BK Big fish, "Anywhere you see two barber poles, or barber poles lit after 8pm at night, is a walk-in brothel or a "massage" parlor. It's hard to tell from the outside, and quality varies, but the experience lasts longer, although it's more expensive.", if the twin barber poles rotate in opposite directions, it is a sure thing.

[Yella Man]

What's up fella? I went to a BBS this morning in a basement in Pyongteak, right near Pyongteak Station. There were about three others on the opposite side of the street that I was on, but the first one I poked my head into didn't have a problem with foreigners, so I stayed.

I only saw one lady working at the time, though the place was fairly large, but again, it was 11:00 AM, so it was probably her day to work early or something. She was in her mid to late thirties, about a 5 face and body and a fairly nice attitude even though she didn't speak much english. She asked for 60,000 won.

She gave me a quick hot towel massage, walked on my back, didn't wash or massage my feet like other BBS have done in the past, flipped me over, gave my dick a couple of licks, sucked my nipples abit, and then finished me off with a glorified HJ.

She cleaned me up and told me to sleep. I guess I could have layed there for awhile, but I rested for twenty-five minutes, got up, and got dressed (had to get back to work). I gave her a 10,000 won tip and blew outta there.

Good for a nut and a nap. Still haven't found a BBS that will offer FS or atleast do a BBBJTC. If anyone knows of one in the Pyongteak or Seoul area that offers outstanding service, hit me with a PM or post the message. And as always fella mongers, KEEP IT REAL!

Travaholic

[Byung]

Amuzeme,

At least you were "amuzed". Anyway, like I said, it was a mistake on my part. At the time, I was used to $250/hour from Korean call girls in the U.S.

Another thing, you wouldn't pay $1,000 to be with any chick you want in the world? Like say Carmen Electra or Pamela Anderson, or whoever it is you find the hottest? And for 18 hours (when I paid $1,000 approx)?

I'm still going to go ahead with another all nighter on Monday for 600,000 WON. About $500. I know the girl will stick around at least 12 hours, so approximately $40/hour. I'm sure many of us here make more than that, so it's no big deal. I've blown a lot more in Vegas at the blackjack tables for nothing but free rooms and steak dinners, oh, and lots of ass kissing.

As for Thailand, I will go probably in August, but not so I can monger. I'm sure I'll try it out though, but back in America I used to date a Thai girl, and Thai chicks just don't do it for me. #1 on my list is Korean women. I just connect with them better than anyone else.

Lastly, like I said before, I know I was overcharged when I paid the $1,000. I don't do it anymore. I still consider it a deal, but since I know it can be had for less I won't pay that amount anymore. 600,000 WON is the lowest I've heard so far, and if anyone can tell me their personal experiences for getting it cheaper than that, I'd be interested in hearing from them.

[Niles QP]

Hi,

I have lived in Seoul off and on for 3 years. I would like to start a comprehensive list of subway stations with red light houses or hookers next to them. I have looked at this board a lot and haven't heard mention of Yungdunpo. It has a big strip that wont take foreigners, but on the outside of it are tons of "b-row" girls who range from down right hot to fugly. Also Suwon station has a big place which is really cheap. I got a short time for 30,000 with a pretty young girl, but the service was bad. Overall Suwon is really foreigner friendly. I have never been to 588 or Miari, but have done Youngsan. Anybody have experience with internet meeting sites? I did a girl from Koreanfriendfinder but it was a pain in the ass. Where is a good place for freebie one nighters or no-strings girls?

[Quest]

Yo Amuzeme,

Why do you care how much someone pays for what he wants? He may have money to burn. May be he wants to treat these girls.

I wish I could do they same.

[Tonyacs]

The pharmacies I went to required a prescription for Vitamin V. Don't know of any that will dispense over the counter. Too bad.

[Amuzeme]

Byung,

$650-$1000 a night? I'm sory, but there is not a piece of ass out there worth $1000 a night. I'd say you DEFINATELY got over charged.

For that same $1000, you could have flown to Thailand, spent a week with a different girl each night, flown back and STILL had change.

Sometimes it amazes me the price some people will pay for a piece of ass.

[Dlite_me]

To get to 588, take train as directed, I believe the exit is number 4.

But, anyway, find the Lotte Dept. Store. When you are facing it, there should be a big open space to your left, sort of an open parking lot. You'll see Burger King, KFC, a convience store, and another train station. Try to get behind of Lotte on the right side, look for Lotte's Parking garage. The stalls begin around the garage area.

Mayb there is something to the left of Lotte, I don't know. I already had my eyes full on the right side.

Good Luck

[Byung]

Regarding the amount of money I paid for all nighters:

Back last summer, I paid between 1,100,000 - 1,300,000 WON.
This past Friday, I paid 750,000 WON. However, I did ask on this forum for advice as to whether or not it was overpaying. Unfortunately I had no responses, so I went ahead with the 750,000 WON. It sure was better than paying the 1,300,000 WON from last year. 550,000 WON cheaper, so why not, right? Plus, it was a Friday so it was more expensive.

Today, I asked about all nighters again. However, I asked how cheap it can go for on a weeknight. Like a Monday, for example. I was told right away 600,000 WON. However, the madame told me if I came a little later, like around midnight, I could go for 500,000 WON. Then again, they open at 8pm so for an extra 100,000 WON I can get four more hours.

Anyway, 600,000 WON seems alright to me. According to Sam Katz, it was too much. Sam, you say 400,000-500,000WON? That sounds good, but have you ever actually succeeded in getting this kind of deal before? I don't *need* to do all nighters, not at all. I did negotiate hard. I was a successful business owner, so I consider myself a good negotiator. Then again, I might be lousy... who knows.

I'd like to hear from people who've actually done all nighters, and I'd like to hear how much they actually paid and how long they got to stay with their girls, as well as if they were allowed to take the girls out to play and whatnot.

For 750,000 WON I received:

1. Approximately 8pm - 9am. 13 hours.
2. Got to take the girl out.
3. Girl slept over at my place.

I can also get the same service for 600,000 WON if I go on a Monday, or Tues, etc.

I've gone to 588 and asked about all nighters there as well. I've heard as high as 1,200,000 WON. The lowest quote I personally received was 600,000 WON. So far, 600,000 WON is the lowest I've heard for 588 as well as Miari. Like I said before, I'd like to hear if anyone's received all nighters for less than 600,000 WON, as well as the amount of time, and whether or not the girls were allowed out.

Thanks for all your help, and I will keep doing my best trying to provide with the best info. I possibly can.

PS: jakethesnake, I'm not proud of paying $650. However, I wasn't ashamed. I was happy to pay $650 to get an all nighters. Like a dumbass, last year when I paid $1,000+ I thought it was normal. Being from America, the Korean escorts in the Korean newspapers charged $250/hour, so I thought it was a deal. I still do, but I also don't want to pay more than I have to.

And I wouldn't say I have LOTS of money, but I'd say I am amongst the top 2-3% of top income earners in the U.S. At least, I used to be. I sold my business and I'm on a long vacation. This past Friday was the first all nighter I did in over six months, so it's not as if I go doing all nighters every week.

However, last year I did do all nighters, six nights in a row. Prices ranging from 1.1M-1.3M. Average of about $1,000/night.

[Masshole77]

Anybody ever have any luck with the massage services advertised in the classifieds of the Korea Times? A couple of them list 100,000 won as their price...how long is that? What are the extras? Is it full service, HJ, BJ, or something you have to negotiate. It would be nice to get a decent girl to come to me instead of going to them.

Thanks

[Joon on Shift]

Hello, all

I had posted a message about a thunder meeting a while ago and I have two of you so far.(late 20s to early 30s) I think a group of 3~5 is good.

I will arrange a time next week and PM those who replied.

Though I am not so sure what we are going to do, but my gut says it will be a lot of fun.

In the mean time, the mail box is still open.

[Amper]

How do you get to the barber shops at Jang Ah Dong? Where do I get off from the subway?

Thanks