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  1. #10235
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]

    In most European countries most people would laugh at a provider asking for what we see on the korean section of massage republic.
    In fairness most of the providers working in 1st world agencies, etc are not themselves from first world countries. It would be one thing if say Thai girls in Korea were jacking up prices.

    So for most of these outcall agencies will they answer questions about service level, ie I want to confirm BBBJ, etc, or is it like in the states where legalities make people dance around that stuff?

  2. #10234
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    You want to see line ups, pay $100, and you only speak English? I don't think you'll find what you're looking for in South Korea (except the food, which is delicious). Hong Kong doesn't really have what you're looking for either. Macau would probably come closest to what you're looking for, unless you wanted to go to Bangkok for the soapy massage parlors or Kuala Lumpur for the spas.
    Thanks for the advice. Macau sounds like a better idea, it looks like $200-300 can get you pretty far in terms of service at saunas. I still might spend some time in Korea just to eat. I don't really want to go to Bangkok because I don't want to be asked, "Why did you go to Bangkok for only 3 days?" kind of thing.

  3. #10233
    Quote Originally Posted by SmashPuss  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    I'm an Asian American looking for a weekend trip from Japan. My first thought was Korea because I love the food, but after going through some of the reports here, it seems it is hard to monger if your speaking ability is low.

    I can read (who can't) and know basic phrases / sentences, but that's about it.

    My preferences are 20-30 year olds, East Asian, $100-200, GFE covered is ok, and preferably to be shown a line up so no bait and switch.

    Based on that it seems that I would navigate towards anma's. Looking for rec for younger providers with decent service.

    If you had to choose, would you monger in Korea or anywhere else? HK was mentioned here, so that is another option I am looking at, but I speak no Cantonese or know how to read any Chinese.
    You want to see line ups, pay $100, and you only speak English? I don't think you'll find what you're looking for in South Korea (except the food, which is delicious). Hong Kong doesn't really have what you're looking for either. Macau would probably come closest to what you're looking for, unless you wanted to go to Bangkok for the soapy massage parlors or Kuala Lumpur for the spas.

  4. #10232

    Recommendation for weekend trip.

    Hi all,

    I'm an Asian American looking for a weekend trip from Japan. My first thought was Korea because I love the food, but after going through some of the reports here, it seems it is hard to monger if your speaking ability is low.

    I can read (who can't) and know basic phrases / sentences, but that's about it.

    My preferences are 20-30 year olds, East Asian, $100-200, GFE covered is ok, and preferably to be shown a line up so no bait and switch.

    Based on that it seems that I would navigate towards anma's. Looking for rec for younger providers with decent service.

    If you had to choose, would you monger in Korea or anywhere else? HK was mentioned here, so that is another option I am looking at, but I speak no Cantonese or know how to read any Chinese.

  5. #10231
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisZapato  [View Original Post]

    Overall, the experience was decent for my first outcall requests. I definitely learned more about the process after each encounter, and while I've read that prices have been increasing, it seems to be in-line with what I paid in Tokyo and Macau for GFE.
    Are you referring to Macau as in the in-house girls the casinos, spas and resorts have? Because that would not be an in line comparison one bit.

    I'll give you Jace, because she's been reviewed and recommended by a trusted member on here in the past.

    Tokyo is already notorious as a ridiculously expensive and difficult place for gaijin to get P4 P, especially if one does not possess the necessary language skills. So naturally the vultures swoon in offering their premium price / sub par services. Even then, there is a lot more variety and much better options / prices than what the Seoul agency / independents offer.

    I won't criticise you for your experiences, because at the end of the day it's your money. But I will continue to inform other readers about the scam currently going on in the korean scene, so that they can make their choice.

  6. #10230
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisZapato  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I'm new here to the board but have no mongered some in HK, Macau, and Japan before, usually for incalls. This time I found myself in Seoul for a couple days to visit some friends. Read about the past 50 pages before arriving, so I appreciate all the info about the anmas, officetels, and other joints in Korea. As I was staying separately in a hotel room and have zero knowledge of Korean / could not find time during the day to visit some of the more popular establishments mentioned on this thread, I decided to try out some out all options.

    My first night I reached out to Jace, a independent that has been mentioned here before previously. She was really professional, showed up on time, and definitely was not a clock watcher. Her appearance matched the photo she sent me prior to the appointment. She's a real girl-next-door type of girl, but her body was great. Nearly fluent in english too so no difficulties communicating. Her performance was great. She can take the lead and deliver a real visceral BBBJ. Also very much into DFK if that's your thing. Also, she was the tightest out of the girls I saw on my trip, so overall would definitely recommend..
    Any recommendation where to find good independent?

  7. #10229

    Any chance of seeing tenpro as first visitor.

    Thinking to going there for vacation. I heard tenpro are basically celebrity level gals but seems to be a bit exclusive? Just curious if there are sites there with them or I need referrals? Is it not possible as a first time visitor to the country?

    And are prices standard at clubs or need to negotiate?

  8. #10228

    First time in Seoul: Independent and Agency Review.

    Hey guys,

    I'm new here to the board but have no mongered some in HK, Macau, and Japan before, usually for incalls. This time I found myself in Seoul for a couple days to visit some friends. Read about the past 50 pages before arriving, so I appreciate all the info about the anmas, officetels, and other joints in Korea. As I was staying separately in a hotel room and have zero knowledge of Korean / could not find time during the day to visit some of the more popular establishments mentioned on this thread, I decided to try out some out all options.

    My first night I reached out to Jace, a independent that has been mentioned here before previously. She was really professional, showed up on time, and definitely was not a clock watcher. Her appearance matched the photo she sent me prior to the appointment. She's a real girl-next-door type of girl, but her body was great. Nearly fluent in english too so no difficulties communicating. Her performance was great. She can take the lead and deliver a real visceral BBBJ. Also very much into DFK if that's your thing. Also, she was the tightest out of the girls I saw on my trip, so overall would definitely recommend.

    The next night, I schedule one with a provider named Miso Lee (https://m.escortdirectory.com/escort/Miso%20Lee-81311/). Communication with this person was easy and fast, but I doubt this account is a true independent. "Miso" called my hotel to confirm details, but the person who showed up had a much worse grasp of English and seemed to not know about the call details when I asked her in person. The girl had an okay face, but her body was pretty good. She seemed shy and much more mechanical with the session, but she did respond enthusiastically to fingering, so some aspects felt organic. She also seemed to dodge several DFK attempts during missionary, which turned me off. Overall I feel a little cheated due to the potential bait and switching, but the session was okay overall. Would not repeat again though.

    The last night I decided to try an agency. I was attracted to Bohemian mainly due to the past mentions on this thread. They now go by the name of international tour guide club. Scheduling here was the easiest of the three, even though I had some complications with timing, though the person in charge of their WhatsApp is really prompt and kept me updated. I ended up going with Sharon after being sent pictures. When she arrived, she looked like the one in the picture so I was 2/3 for accuracy! She seemed a bit shy, but her English was good enough for us to have a conversation to break some ice. She provided a really intimate intimate experience with lots of cuddling and DFK. She was definitely not shy about tongue. Also, she was just vocal enough for it to not sound over-the-top. Also, her tits were a great size for an Asian girl of her stature (petite). While the price was a little higher than the other two independents, I thought the clear communication and the fact that Sharon was the most attractive provider I saw delivered the extra premium. Would recommend for people looking for outcalls wanting easy booking and an honest experience.

    Overall, the experience was decent for my first outcall requests. I definitely learned more about the process after each encounter, and while I've read that prices have been increasing, it seems to be in-line with what I paid in Tokyo and Macau for GFE.

  9. #10227
    Hey guys,

    New here but I've been reading the thread for a long time now.

    Just wanted to add on to the Jeni thingy, so people do not spend their money uselessly.

    I met her earlier this year. She is not worth the third of the price she asks.

    First, I've never seen someone so pretentious. "hey baby, I'm such a beauty, I'm the best of what Korea has to offer". Her behavior does not match her physical appearance, you could score with a prettier woman at any bar / lounger without trying. I wanted to ask her to leave after 5 minutes of discussion, but for some obscure reasons, I didn't. I still regret it.

    Service wise, she is rather good at BJ and does have a smooth skin but that's about it. She does not take initiatives, everything is too mechanical, planned. And she is a clock watcher. I won't go too much in details.

    All in all, it is not THAT bad, but certainly not worth 500 USD. For that price, just go to Cheongdam, order two bottles of champagne and spend the night with actual stunners.

    Oh. And I just messaged her because someone said he paid 300 k, turns out she actually raised her price to 560 k (haha).

  10. #10226
    Quote Originally Posted by Bang4444  [View Original Post]
    Thanks.

    I don't look like South Asian.

    If any non Korean guy learn Korean, would that help?
    It helps if you speak korean, especially in the RLDs.

    Ultimately what will decide your success is how many korean mongerers are around, which is why blending in is so important. The other factor is how big the girls think your junk is, and they resort to the old stereotypes to make this judgement. The smaller the guy's junk is, the easier it will be for the women, which is another reason why westerners have such a hard time in the P4 P scene here, no matter how inaccurate the girl's assumptions may be.

  11. #10225
    Thanks.

    I don't look like South Asian.

    If any non Korean guy learn Korean, would that help?

    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Depends on what you're looking for and what you look like. If you can pass for East Asian, your options are much higher.

    Recommended places:

    *all anmas mentioned in this thread over the last few months. Average cost of service will be in the range of 240-260 k won. Your chances of success depends on a lot of factors. But if you at least can pass for a korean, language ability is not an issue.

    *Miari RLD, Cheonho RLD, Itaewon Hooker Hill. These are all easier to score in than anmas. Cheonho can be hit and miss, but the other two should yield you a 100% success rate unless you're picky. Rates are 80 k won to 100 k won.

    *agencies and independent providers. Not recommended, but it's your money if you're willing to try. You'the be better off in Japan or elsewhere in Asia if this is your preference.

  12. #10224
    Quote Originally Posted by Bang4444  [View Original Post]
    I will be visiting this place soon.

    I read about 15 pages and seems it's not place for non Korean speaking guys.

    Just wondering if it would be good idea to visit Japan from here and come back.
    Depends on what you're looking for and what you look like. If you can pass for East Asian, your options are much higher.

    Recommended places:

    *all anmas mentioned in this thread over the last few months. Average cost of service will be in the range of 240-260 k won. Your chances of success depends on a lot of factors. But if you at least can pass for a korean, language ability is not an issue.

    *Miari RLD, Cheonho RLD, Itaewon Hooker Hill. These are all easier to score in than anmas. Cheonho can be hit and miss, but the other two should yield you a 100% success rate unless you're picky. Rates are 80 k won to 100 k won.

    *agencies and independent providers. Not recommended, but it's your money if you're willing to try. You'the be better off in Japan or elsewhere in Asia if this is your preference.

  13. #10223

    S Korea trip

    I will be visiting this place soon.

    I read about 15 pages and seems it's not place for non Korean speaking guys.

    Just wondering if it would be good idea to visit Japan from here and come back.

  14. #10222
    Quote Originally Posted by JonRam  [View Original Post]
    That is well said yes and I know there are many fake reviews and profiles.

    But now if you think about it if a true review appears you just automatically think it's fake.

    You say you can go to hooker hill, barber shop, etc. I did not try that but I read that they just rush it and have no GFE. I like GFE so I tried escort service instead. I got several bad experiences to be honest but this one was the best.

    1 hour, 300 k, 1 pop. The girl was like the photos, DFK, real GFE, BJ without condom, 3 positions. She just asked what I wanted to do but I just wanted normal sex / positions.

    And like I pointed already others try to rush and leave before time but not this time.

    Most services are 250 k on other places but service is much worse. I prefer 300 k for a service that I really like, that's just up to you, you can go hooker hill and that's it, I am just telling my experience.
    I know what a real review looks like, and I am not going to teach you how to write one.

    Most services are not 250 k, the only people charging 250 k and above for just sex are the agencies and deluded providers on massage republic. They used to spam crackr too till it got shut down.

    Even in most anmas, you get a legitimate massage from a separate person at the end. You can actually see where your 250 k goes (building, multiple staff / helpers, food, drinks, provider, masseur and sometimes pickup / dropoff). What does your 250 k get you with an agency or an independent provider?

    In most European countries most people would laugh at a provider asking for what we see on the korean section of massage republic. Even the guys on business trips from Singapore / Malaysia / Indonesia are keeping their pants on because they are aware they can get much better back home for a fraction of the price. Like I said before, they are gearing their attention to anmas these days for good reason. And these guys are mostly using company cards and travel expenses, how shitty must your services be when someone isn't even willing to spend another's person's money on you?

  15. #10221
    Quote Originally Posted by VancouverBoy  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree with you brother. Dude, you can't fake a 'cunning Fox' like. RainMania or LovinAsia, BTW, I just checked your website. $275 for a pop?. Get the f* out of here! . I'm flying to HK in a few weeks where last time I banged a K-pop cutie for HK500 $(US65). 40 min of unrushed service in Tsim Sha Tsui Mansion.
    Exactly. SK can't even hold a light to HK anymore when it comes to this hobby. They understand the meaning of competition and service there.

    It's like the ones here in SK are living in this fantasy land where they believe they deserve CEO-level pay for just existing, both the pimps and providers. Many of them just arrive on the scene and instantly believe most of us are gullible enough to fork out room salon rates for 15-20 minutes of action (because that's what "per hour" really means in this industry).

    I remember the 150 k per hour days, which was actually of value because they were more reasonable rates than anmas, room salons and even officetels. And back then it was the well-known girls charging that, newbies were offering 120 and even as low as 100, just 5 years ago.

    Now it's the reverse, agencies and independents charging ridiculous premiums with zero improvements or additions to services. Some FOB provider from South America, SE Asia or Eastern Europe can come in and pull fantasy numbers out of their asses (300 k per shot, 500 k per shot HAHA) when we all know they have zero hope of charging even half that in their home countries.

    I'the rather pay an airline that 500 k, at least they'll take me somewhere I can get quality poon that understands the meaning of value.

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